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    Hey ! So I laughed quite a lot & enjoyed this episode, not my favourite but still a good one. As many have pointed out I enjoyed the Amy & Penny scenes. I think it's good in a relationship that neither Amy or Sheldon pretended they did or didn't want to go to comic con just to please the other - yes I think they both share interests Harry Potter for example ( wink wink ) but this wasn't Amy's thing just like Sheldon didn't want to stay at home - it caused them no problems and they were both open & honest with each other. The tag - Oh Sheldon you cheeky boy, you knew exactly what you were doing, that sexy flirtatious look , up close and personal, the wording haha !! I thought it was sexy & funny all at the same time , he & Amy both knew exactly what was going on ......yes one day I'd like this type of thing to happen and they both dive into a heated make out , but for now I'm content that what we had was some shameless flirting and Sheldon trying his powers of persuasion, did it work no, did Amy look angry or offended no, does that type on chat/flirting happen in relationships absolutely !!!!!! I loved it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  3. I think one of the problems may be that they will be confined by the things that were founded on TBBT. They won't be able to make the people around him accept him too much and they won't be able to have his character develop too much because it would be too much of a contradiction to early TBBT Sheldon and to his efforts to change in later seasons. Personally I prefer a futuristic spin-off with the gang's children, then you can have a bunch of character in their 20's/late teen years who have some characteristics similar to the original gang, they are young so no need to artificially hold them from having families (like they are doing with Lenny) or have them mostly in marriage dynamics (so it can be like early TBBT) and you can take them wherever you want. Plus you can do cool futuristic stuff, TBBT production shine when it comes to funny props.
  4. I think it was a good episode. I had many laughs, some LOL's (e.g., "Where is Wollowitz?"; Bernadette seeing right through Howard's smooching). Howardette were nice and funny. Raj bored me a little but his decision to reject Howardette's money was good and mature to me and made me think there is still hope for him. Really liked Lenny this episode, especially the kitchen scene (great acting! both conveyed both the love and the discomfort) and Leonard's decision. I wrote my thoguhts in detail on the Lenny thread so I'll put a shortened version here with a little more on Shamy. I really liked that we got an episode full of Lenny that wasn't them fighting or unhappy for unclear or unjustified reasons! I also loved that, IMO, they showed that BOTH of them want to make each other happy and are willing to make sacrifices for each other. This is kind of new for Penny. She did things for him in the past but it was rare and didn't involve much sacrifice. So to me this is definitely character developement! I think it also shows that they really love each other, in spite of their differences. I think breaking up is not a good option for them (altough I am not rulling out, the characters and certainly the writers can make really bad choices). However, they do need to work on their communication. Ironically, I think this episode that brought the differences in Lenny's interests and prefered activities to the front, actually shows that they are not an "opposite attract" case. They may differ in these aspects, but both are generally compassionate, caring people. They care about each other and about other people (for Penny mostly her close friends) and are willing to make efforts to help and make others happy, even if those others are very difficult people (*cough* Sheldon Cooper). Sheldon's meta comments were so on point: he was has been in the middle for all those years and they do want to make each other happy but make each other sad. But while the he and the writers may think it is hillarious, I certainly disagree and I think I am not alone. If it was 2-3 times, and these were like in this episode and not like "The Romance Recalibration" and "The Emotion Detection Automation", maybe. But this is too long, too rough and just all over the place. I think the comparison between Lenny and Shamy wasn't meant to show that Lenny are bad and Shamy are so much better. What I got is that they are at almost opposite spots on a scale: Lenny are (not always but in this episode and more generally) too concerned about hurting each other, so they make efforts to hide some of their thoughts and feelings from each other and instead use various manipulations and end up fighting when they are actually on the same side. Shamy on the other hand, well not Shamy, Sheldon... he loves Amy and does things for her but also sticks to his likes, desires, thoughts and feelings to a point that it sometimes hurts her. Amy sometimes disregards his interests, like in this episode, but all of the girls do that (sadly the women on the show are the mommies who want to make their partners abandon their "immature", "pathetic" interests. Penny was more supportive in this episode which was nice!). Shamy weren't all perfect ths episode, not at all actually. So I think the message wasn't that this way is good and that way is not. There should be a balance. Shamy too can improve and I think they are (again, mostly Sheldon because it's mostly his problem) generally on the right track.
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    Just finished watching and really enjoyed it even with the bitter sweet "the guys skip comic con because they have other priorities now" theme. Not much Shamy for this but I liked them in a supporting role here. Amy with Penny was cute and, like others already pointed out, there certainly is a bit more balance to the friendship. I still find Amy's "popular girl" moment endearing cause yes, she's not as mature as people say she is and I like characters that have flaws (hence why I also reject the interpretation of her as a motherly figure for Sheldon when she is not that much further along with her social development). Also, aww, her aunt died. Probably the one from Weekend Vortex?? Aunt Flora would've been 98 this year. Similarly, Sheldon and Leonard having tea in 4B was nice and his advice proved to be right in the end. Though his example with Amy made me laugh more than it should have because of his "I sure hope she meant it when she called me an insensitive jerk" reaction. And no, there is no reason to be pedantic about calling it a mole or a beauty mark or a birthmark. There are no differentiating definitions for either of them and they're used interchangeably - so yes, you were just insensitive, Sheldon! (And to go back on our discussion yesterday: Those are situations where I can understand a character being upset about what he said.) The Shamy and Lenny stuff in the hallway was hilarious to me cause even though they weren't literally standing behind the kitchen island it was still the same dynamic of having one couple make comments about the other and here it was Shamy's time to take their seats on the metaphorical balcony. I also can't fault Amy for thinking that Sheldon would be deciding to stay at home like the other guys. There was a certain vibe in the room and she knows he is not the kind of guy who goes to these things alone - so her assumption doesn't come out of nowhere. But obviously I also can't fault Sheldon for standing his ground and still insist on going. The tag was such a treat and as said the other day: it's such a light hearted silly thing I can't even be mad at the writers. That was just plain fun. It totally mirrored what Howard did with Bernie earlier in the episode so I don't buy the idea of "Sheldon doesn't know what he's doing" cause he totally does. I didn't expect him to call her "pretty" out of the blue (which also makes up for the mole thing earlier - he may comment on Amy's body hair but he hasn't expressed any form of disgust like society would expect you he'd do because female body hair is ewww. fuck society, btw!) and even be touchy feely on her "erogenous" shoulder. LMAO I also love how Amy sees right through this and isn't swayed easily by his flirting. Her trying to keep a straight face was hilarious. All in all, fun little episode!
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    Just watched it, small but several interactions with Shamy but we kind of knew it would be Shamy lite in terms of the overall storyline going into it. Thought it was a solid episode overall and better than some of the recent ones. IMO probably the hallway scene was the best in terms of Shamy and their interactions together and with Lenny. Amy had some good dialogue and scenes with Penny and the PAmy relationship continues to flourish! Enjoyed the opening scene with Sheldon and the guys at the beginning and also some of the Shelnard interactions. The tag? Laughed briefly but then kind of thought to myself I have seen this before and the fact we haven't seen it go anywhere or lead to anything kind of detracts from it. Sheldon was deliberately suggestive and flirty, even more so than we saw in the promo with the way he approached her with 'There's my pretty girlfriend' and the 'Can't a man be happy to see his woman?'. Amy obviously saw through that but then we get the pants and then a PG rated dick joke lol. 'Poor Amy' all over social media, I wouldn't say that but there is some perception out there that she had her hopes dashed yet again after that scene.
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    Btw, thank you so much for the report you posted earlier here @2L344. You have a great memory and it is so nice to know your thoughts about each detail from episode's plotline. Really, reallly appreciated
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    So...I really liked that we got an episode full of Lenny that wasn't them fighting or unhappy for unclear or unjustified reasons! I also loved that, IMO, they showed that BOTH of them want to make each other happy and are willing to make sacrifices for each other. This is kind of new for Penny, it was always Leonard's behavior around her and she seemed to take it for granted or just be happy about it without worrying too much about her part of the deal. She did things for him in the past but it was rare and didn't involve much sacrifice. So to me this is definitely character developement! I think it also shows that they really love each other, in spite of their differences. It can be more challenging to maintain a relationship when a lot of the things each party likes to do are different from those of the other party, and yet they have been together for several years now and got married. IMO this means there is a lot of love there. I think breaking up is not a good option for them (altough I am not rulling out, the characters and certainly the writers can make really bad choices). However, they do, as said here and on other threads many times, need to work on their communication. Couples therapy will be great for them because it seems like both of them will be motivated to work on their issues and I certainly believe they can do it. But they need a professional, not a Shamy interferance. Speaking of Shamy...I think the comparison wasn't meant to show that Lenny are bad and Shamy are so much better. What I got is that they are at almost opposite spots on a scale: Lenny are (not always but in this episode and more generally) too concerned about hurting each other, so they make efforts to hide some of their thoughts and feelings from each other and instead use various manipulations and end up fighting when they are actually on the same side. Shamy on the other hand, well not Shamy, Sheldon... he loves Amy and does things for her but also sticks to his likes, desires, thoughts and feelings to a point that it sometimes hurts her. Shamy weren't all perfect ths episode, not at all actually. So I think the message wasn't that this way is good and that way is not. There should be a balance. Speaking about comparisons: I think the Howardette interaction emphasized how selfless and thoughtfull Leonard's decision at the end was. He decided to give up in order to be with his wife doing something they both will be okay with, whereas Howard wanted to give up so he wouldn't be alone with Sheldon (this is not something against Howardette, just shows something about Leonard's decision). Ironically, I think this episode that brought the differences in Lenny's interests and prefered activities to the front, actually shows that they are not an "opposite attract" case. Those cases, in fact, are quite rare in real life. They may differ in these aspects, but both are generally compassionate, caring people. They care about each other and about other people (for Penny mostly her close friends) and are willing to make efforts to help and make others happy, even if those others are very difficult people (*ahm* Sheldon Cooper *ahm* Rajesh Koothrapally). The latest TR appears to show it too: at the beginning it says that both Leonard and Penny feel sorry for Raj and decide to offer him their spare bedroom, while Bernadette has to talk to Howard a little bit to change his initial joking reaction and Shamy are not even talking about it. Both Leonard and Penny are also sarcastic and joke on their friends (more Penny but Leonard is not too far from her level) but that was not emphasized in this episode. Sheldon's meta comments were so on point: he was has been in the middle for all those years and they do want to make each other happy but make each other sad. But while the he and the writers may think it is hillarious, I certainly disagree and I think I am not alone. If it was 2-3 times, and these were like in this episode and not like "The Romance Recalibration" and "The Emotion Detection Automation", maybe. But this is too long, too rough and just all over the place. I really hope they will have them work on their problems, fueled by their love, and not ruin it all by continuing this fight-resolve-fight-resolve cycle, that doesn't get them anywhere and doesn't bring them (and us) any insight about the root causes of their problems, until it breaks them. I want to say I believe the second option won't happen but I lost confidence in the writers.
  9. True, it's a staple of British Comedy for sure. Innuendo with a partner of course is different with someone else like you stated. But I don't know if it's kind of getting stale in this example because you know it doesn't go anywhere or lead to anything if that makes sense?
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    Oh, I agree on this...The writers sometimes seem to be trapped in their 2007 jokes and don't want to move from that. It's not the right thread to say so (because Shamy seem the only ones in the show that don't have any problem with their finances), but a glaring example of that is the way the writers handle money. Those are well known scientists who work at Caltech for more than 10 years now, they are not anymore Post-doc fellows that have just gotten there (which, BTW, at Caltech earn 40.000$ a year, not that bad...), they should all have a pretty decent salary at this point; the whole issue with Raj being broke doesn't make much sense. Also, as you say, SDCC is a very mainstream event now, and being a nerd is not considered uncool anymore; actually, TBBT itself had a huge part in this shift in mentality, so it's baffling the writers themselves don't acknowledge that. I'm pretty sure that if Amy had a close look to that list of panels (not trying to be dirty here, LOL!), she would have found something she could have enjoyed. Probably not enough to spend 5 full days at the event, but she could have attended a panel or two...Given the way the episode was constructed, anyway, I think the best solution is that each of them does their own things for those five days; Sheldon can go with Stuart (even if I don't really know how he can pay...) if he doesn't find other options. On this, instead, I don't agree very much. Yes, Amy is still trapped in high school, but I think she is getting out of it. She was the "cool girl" doormat for 5 years, now she think she IS the cool girl (whether she is cool or not is not relevant), I see that as a progress, because she can relate with Penny at a more equal level.
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    Overall it was a funny and nice episode. There were a few nice friendship moments I really enjoyed to see, especially the ensemble scene as the decision of Raj of not going to SDCC was very mature for his economical limited conditions at moment and the support guys showed to him but Sheldon was touching and nice ( his reaction was ic from him imo). What lead me to the detail about shamy relationship that I did not like much it happens yet. Sheldon is getting to be a better friend to everyone as he was trying to help Raj but it doesn't mean he would change his ways of think and react about his own things and surprised me a bit that Amy was expecting Sheldon would behave like Howard and Leonard about not going to SDCC. They are really in a good place in their relationship as they are honest to each other and compromise to things in ways that both turn to be happy but there are things that are litle realistic to expect from each other as there are things that are inhereted to them and Sheldon is not the type of doing what others do in a situation he would not enjoy at all. It doesnt make Sheldon a mean person, is the way he is and certainly he would not thought less of Amy if she do something he was not into, and certainly she does a few ones. I know it is a question of time as these kind of things run more organically between them as a couple but it was the only thing that worried me a bit but surely they would do it fine in upcoming similar situations. Anyway, I loved how Amy now is a more confident woman when interacts with Penny. It is nice to see how they get along so well in a equally way and Penny also seek Amy's advices as Amy had always done about Penny. It is really nice to see how both Sheldon and Amy are grown people emotionaly and socially these days, it makes me proud of our adorable couple! Sheldon is a treat indeed, lol! I really love how he is determined to act in his best way without stop being himself, that sequence of dialogue on stairs as lenny was bickering and he was whispering to Amy about what they knew about lenny wishes to go to SDCC was awesome. And Amy is not a less of a treat, the way she revealed the whole true was so Amy 's style, lol! And last but not least the tag scene. First I am with Amy on this one: SDCC had never been her thing and Sheldon should respect that ( I think he does and a Batman statue might have helped to increase that respect, lol). Second, Sheldon knew very well what he was doing, lol! There is a seducing Sheldon pattern after all, lol! Who dare to think the man has not sexual desire as he thinks of Amy's erogenal parts often and he even cathegorized them? Priceless! The complete scene was hilarious, it turned better than I thought it would. Amy's face as she heard the beauty praise as she knew what was coming for Sheldon being saying things like these was so funny! And thankgoodness there was no hint of she might be frustrated for his attempt that had other reason but sex behind of his actions, it was very spott on how she handled with the whole thing, hehe! After all he would not have sex for SDCC , right? I just hope we could see one day a scene like this between shamy again as Sheldon use not only one but both arms to seduce his woman!
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    I am glad Sheldon decided to go to CC. Just like Amy stood her ground, I like that Sheldon also stood his ground. I don't see why should he give up CC (unless he wants to) to stay with Amy if Amy is not willing to go to CC with him. If Amy has her own interests(which they sadly didn't bother to mention) , then Sheldon also has his own interests too. It would have been rather hypocritical to expect otherwise.Other than that, I felt that Amy wanted Sheldon to behave like Howard and Leonard, which is disappointing to say the least after everything they went through. I also didn't get the point of the TAG scene. assuming Sheldon knew what he is doing, they both still lose. neither Amy nor Sheldon get what they want. Sheldon doesn't have company for CC and Amy doesn't get sex. and dick jokes are not original either. TBH, I also don't see what is so great about Amy's "cool one" line either. It is stale. Sheldon is always the one who is called immature, but Amy herself is still stuck in high school .i am not even a big comics fan but I think Penny is still cool. going to CC or talking about Ewoks does not make someone uncool. It is pretty much a mainstream event . Even How I Met Your Mother(a show with very little comic references) had a panel there. What outdated world are the writers living in ???? But i wasn't expecting anything great from this episode in the first place so whatever.
  14. I know this wasn't your argument but let me just use your post to clear something up: A "romantic lead" is simply a main character in a romantic story (film, play, whatever). There are no qualifications about how "romantic" the character in question has to be, nor how straight the "romance" is played in the story. A staple of many romantic comedies is exactly that one or sometimes even both of the romantic leads aren't exactly romantic, or they are in a situation that isn't romantic - and that's usually where the comedy comes from. Characters find themselves in some situation and fall in love and pursue a relationship is pretty much all it takes for a "romantic story". So if one wants to categorise Sheldon or Leonard or Penny as a romantic lead then they all match those criteria.
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    Two captured moments
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    Wow, you've lowered your expectations haven't ypu ?
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    -"His mother never had him tested". There, now Sheldon gets it. -Looked up Comic-Con ticket prices. 50 for adults. I'm not sure how much transportation costs but Raj should easily be able to cover it. The writers are trying to find a way to work Raj up from being a loser, but are forgetting that Raj isn't a waiter at The Cheesecake Factory. I don't buy that he has an emergency credit card bill. He's been holding onto at least a little bit of his earnings for 10 years. He should be the richest in the group with or without the father moolah. Maybe this plotline was inspired by the paycheck differences between the actors, because that's where Raj gets the short end. -"I already live in a place all the nerds come to". Who even talks like this? Why is she so bitter? When was the last time she was even shown to have a hobby going on? Nobody can fucking stand jokes like this, especially when the event is super mainstream in culture. -Comic-Con > Amy's aunt's funeral. -Leonard's right. Even if Penny tried to do the good gesture, she'd ultimately just get mad at him and ruin the trip because she'll realize trying in a relationship is hard. -Sheldon be damned, if Raj really wants this he can disobey this flimsy arrangement of financial management. Why didn't he just ask Stuart to help him manage? Apparently these people love to give Sheldon positions of power even when he doesn't ask for them. Almost like they enjoy the toxic cycle of complaining about him. -"Charge people to punch you in the face". No, I know, why not have the astrophysicist set up a lemonade stand? Science degrees are worthless. -"Never gets old". I disagree! -And now Howard has to do chores around the house to get permission. 10 seasons in and we're still equating wife with the word mother. -Where's Wolowitz sounds like a blast. -Oh cool, Sheldon slept in bed with Leonard/Penny. :D -I don't get the chain mail part. -Is Stuart's comic shop now GameStop? -Leonard's an in-door cat. -"Comic books aren't just for sad nerds anymore". But that was never who they were specifically for. I don't even really read comics and I've never been to Comic-Con, but really if you're going to panels it's like how people on this site go to a Big Bang Theory taping. -Sweet costume. Stuart just had that lying around? -No outsourcing. -Leonard and Penny are the worst liars in the world. Do not they not hear each other's tone? -The bell is your best idea Bernadette. -Raj can't even afford double stuffed oreos?! -"He can find a girl with a job". They are literally acting like he's unemployed and next time, homeless. They have a full two more seasons to play around with this regression if they had such an unfortunate idea, so I hope another turning point is being saved for the Season 10 finale. -"If make-up is so truthful why is it called concealer?". -Sheldon's right, sitcom relationship hijinks are high-larious. -Lenny can't even agree on whose driving without a petty squabble of mass proportions, maybe Sheldon should put that license to good use. -Shamy tag team Lenny fixing. That's something a lot of people on this board like to see. -"Not next year either". So what, Season 12? -"Room in the bed by Sheldon's feet". Maybe that's why Raj sacrificed what he was scrambling for all episode. -Sheldon missing Comic-Con is like Amy missing her one sex per year. -Hooray, Howard was just bullshitting. His change of heart would've been extra confusing after the week of labor. -Erogenous ball and socket joint. -"It's long isn't it?". The panelist list is a euphemism for his dick. The show doesn't make it clear but I doubt that was manipulation, just more of Sheldon's awkward wording that the dialogue forces. Wonder if Amy would agree to go to Comic-Con if it meant sex, but Stuart's still viable. -That was a challenging February. March's schedule is a life saver.
  18. I think Beverly is really the satan's voice in his mind. As pictured in many child comics. Leonard is and I think will be for ever insecure about himself and about his relationship with Penny. Though it's growing, the one who can trigger his insecurities the most, is the one who has caused it the most. And that willbe Beverly. It is known, that adults who has been mobbed in their childhood still feel the effect in their current time. Especiall y when they hear/meat the one who mobbed them or someone who is doing like that person. So it's pretty consistent (as some of the consistencies) in TBBT that Leonard will always act insecure with Beverly. And I think he always will be. From the serious side note; the "mobbing" his mother did was one of the worst someone can ever imagine.
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    I , too, liked he Penny/Amy scene and I especially liked Amy referring to herself as being the cool one now lol. I think we all discussed it here when the TR came out, but watching the full episode had me feel a bit bittersweet when all the guys weighed in at the end and decided to skip CC. Please please writers don't let the guys grow up...I was happy Sheldon stood his ground. The expression on Sheldon's face in that tag reminded me of the one he used when luring Amy into having a glass of brandy lol....he knew what he was doing then as he did tonight in that tag! It made the room look small lol, it's ridiculous in there! Sorry Sheldon, I'm with Amy on this one...
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    Nice episode overall, it was funny, but it confirmed my opinion that this second half of the season is not as strong and hilarious as the first part. There were things I liked about Shamy (and about Sheldon and Amy) and things I wasn't very fond of. I loved Amy's scenes with Penny, their relationship is much better and balanced and I can really say they are friends now. I also liked she was firm in not wanting to go to SDCC with Sheldon, it's not "her" thing and it's only right she spoke her mind with her boyfriend about that. What I didn't like, though, is that it seemed she half-expected Sheldon to give up to CC once his friends decided to not go to stay with their SO. It seemed to me she was (as it has happened in the past) comparing her relationship with the idea of "romance" she got from her girl friends' relationships. Now, obviously SDCC is the kind of event you don't go by yourself, so maybe that had a part in her expectations about him giving up to the convention too, but I got the vibe she wanted Sheldon to behave like Howard and Leonard. Shamy were nicely in the background, the lines Sheldon said about them being honest with each other were hilarious, even if I wouldn't call it "honesty" to underline that a mole is a mole (we waited until E. 17 to have a reference to Amy's hair, way to go, writers!) and a jerk is a jerk, LOL! As for the tag, after having seen the whole scene, there's no way Sheldon didn't know what he was doing, the dialogue from the get go implied he was trying to lure Amy into going to SDCC with him using seduction of some form. So, actually, it is a step forward from the "oblivious" Sheldon kind of jokes. Still not a fan of the fact the writers continue to use innuendos that don't lead to anything, but at least it looks like they are kinda moving from their old jokes and the scene in itself was hilarious. I've seen a IG pic of the Batman statue in question, that's really big! How did the apartment looked like with the statue in it? I don't know...for some weird and twisted reason, I hope it stays, it can do as a dishtowels holder, LOL!
  21. Point is Sheldons form and version of romance is not typical. Some may understand it. But imo Shamy shouldent be the romantic hero and heroine. They were kinda the alternative couple. I don't like how they have shifted things. But that's jmo.
  22. Chapter 2 is up.
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    And I would be happy for that. Not sure they could have pulled off a Luke Cage/Jessica Jones(or Claire Temple or Misty Knight) cosplay at Comic Con though! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Lol thank you ! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Now we just need a Lenny Luke Cage episode . Sheesh this was Lenny as good as Season 1 Lenny. Clutching at straws? Lenny tonight was everything fans have been griping about.
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    Yeah Sheldon was in a good place, though Amy was grossed out by being the "dessert" in his apocalyptic menu. She didnt look all too thrilled for being in the batcave in the tag either lol
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