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  2. As I posted on the discussion thread, no one can make an adamant, definitive statement whether this depiction is realistic or not. It's not for you or Tensor based on your personal experiences but for me during my 25 years, it is. And, single or married, you can have an opinion on it. I don't agree with the time frame of the depiction - this early into their marriage - based on my experience but sure there have been marriages like this outside the life experiences of our forum family. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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  3. I don't find it realistic, based on my marriage. What part is realistic based on your marriage?
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  4. I don't know what to do or think about any of the ships after this week because they were so absurdly out of character. Where do I begin? Right off the bat, with Penny's daydream, I knew the storyline was going to be contrived. She is someone who, while touched by Leonard's thoughtful gestures, was also kind of overwhelmed by them (she knows that she can't match them despite her best efforts, and shows her affection in other ways). She struggles to be vulnerable and express her feelings, so while I'm sure she'd appreciate Leonard doing something like that, I don't think she'd ever fantasize about it. Likewise, I think she'd speak up the first time Leonard played video games in his underwear rather than let it fester. Sheldon and Amy are not a sensual couple in any sense of the word, and making them one for the sake of creating a stale contrast was absurd. Howard and Bernadette both have good jobs, no mortgage, and free childcare. Going to extremes to avoid replacing the floorboards when they could easily afford to do so was just a cheap way to get a laugh.
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  5. Well, I did have my sleeping arrangements determined by a third party... but that was because the third party was my child. Otherwise it's all just fantasy, that was funny for a bit.
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  6. I've been married 3 times. so I'm really not a poster child for marriage but in my 3 i never had fights like this in the first couple years the first 2 matriages the arguments started in years 4 and 5 and never in the 3rd marriage Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
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  7. Although I find Penny very immature at times I don't think they're not ready to have a baby. They have been Sheldon's surrogate parents for years now. The "lack maturity" line in "The Positive Negative Reaction" felt unfounded to me. Just the writers making up excuses to keep them stagnant because when it comes to Lenny they have very hard time letting them advance and grow, even though they do it well enough with Howardette and Shamy. IMO, Lenny are more prepared to be parents than Howardette. Don't get me wrong, I believe people should never have a baby in order to solve their problems. But if this is the problem, meaning Penny wants to start a family but is conflicted by her commitment issues and insecurities, and perhaps also surprised/afraid to be the one who wants to take a step forward (Leonard was always the one to push forward), then maybe they should consider it. Put it on the table. Perhaps not start trying right now but discuss it and decide to be more aware of their feelings to figure out when they are ready. Kind of like the engagement.
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  8. I am not a lenny but I 'd like to say I am rooting for everything goes well to them as it used to be. And I 'd like to say that I loved Kaley and Johnny's performances in last episode, especially Johnny's. The love Leonard feels for Penny is something powerfull and beautiful that Johnny performs so well and the character's pain this week was so well done by him that I felt teary eyed when he was in car in his way to spa for talk to her because Leonard could not be two days without trying to fix things between him and his wife. Just my two cents about the love story of tbbt that I admire since pilot. Hope you dont mind my word about it.
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  9. Here we dont have the shows dubbed to portuguese, only the movies for children or cartoons and I am glad for that , as the original versions have the original actors voices. About translations they sometimes got messed as the subtitles show modified meanings of original script. Tbh I opted to watch movies and series with english subtitles two years ago and if I have doubts, I make research about the meanings of a specific sentence I did not get it. For the specific sentence @Anita mentioned in 10.11, I am really curious how it will be translated to portuguese but unfortunately it will just air here with portuguese subtitles at least in next Autumn... Imo the worst issue is the free translation and some tv channels stopped to pay to translators and use online translation. For who english is not first language can be a nigthmare the messed meanings. Fortunately there are good english grammars and a few good sites for help us with these sentences that can put us in trouble in a conversation or as we watch a show and then we talked with those whose first language is english. Btw, other good thing here is we dont translate names and specific plot terms to portuguese. For example, Game of Thrones and Harry Potter books have the original names of characters, objects and spells in english. Which makes much more sense than translate them to free portuguese.
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  11. I don't think 3kull is married but there is no definition of a standard marriage. We all have different experiences. This Lenny marriage IS realistic to me. Not the time frame - second year - but this has very much been the experience I've had many times in my 25 year marriage. Even after that long, we can still have hiding our feelings and taken for granted issues along with the storming off. It's never threatened our happiness but with our differing personalities it will not go away any time soon, regardless of how many discussions we have - no RAs needed though. This current Lenny story is like watching a autobiopic for me. Not sure it's a great plot for a comedy,but it's resonating with me. The beauty of this forum is the wide ranging life experiences we have which is why we'll never agree on some aspects of the show because the writers can't always write for everyone's experiences and viewpoints. Sometimes we're outraged, sometimes we are happy and sometimes we are in between ( although we tend to go for the extreme emotions more often than not). That's fine. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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  12. I really think Penny is past her commitment issues. For me right now it is he changing circumstances. She's a wife, a working professional and has entered her 30's. The way she lashed out at Leonard was, to me, very much in character. She tends to lash out when she is unhappy, or fearful, or worried. The quick look on her face after Leonard left the living area said a lot. There was a little bit of devistation there. I think she was immediately sorry for her harshness, but still felt she needed those two days to think about why she lashed out and other things. It would have been great if the writers/producers decided to show us Leonard and Penny's conversation instead of the cucumber drink nonsense . I've only seen the episode once, but they did seem a bit warmer toward each other when they entered that scene. The tag showed warmth between them as well.....I think we will see some things settled for Penny in the next run of tapings and by extension for Leonard too, in the best way.
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  13. If Penny is incredibly happy with Leonard, I don't see the point with an RA, everything should be smooth sailing.
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  14. John Ross Bowie, Wil Wheaton and Laura Spencer were there too. Cannot even describe how much I love this.
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  16. I loved the Shamy scenes in this episode, especially the cute "I miss you more" dialogue. However, there was something about this episode that made it feel like it didn't belong in the series. I don't know what it is, it just felt out of place and weird... I really can't put my finger on it. Having said that, boy is it sexy when Sheldon displays a quiet confidence. When he walked into the room and said "hello, Amy..." Hoo! I'd like to see more of that please! Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
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  17. Not necessarily criticism, but I remember when Shamy were broken up, both Jim and Mayim expressed that they they didn't like it. They said they wish they were back together again. So yeah, I think they can say if they don't like the plot as long as it's not disrespectful to the writers. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
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  18. ...well we always have your fan fiction to read!
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  19. But psychologically it makes a difference to go from the head space of "this is just an experiment and everything can go back without problem" (which was the original idea) to "okay forget the experiment, we're doing this for real now, no takesy backsies!!" Because making huge life changes, even when it's so god damn bloody obvious that this is the right thing to do, can be a bit scary and difficult. I certainly experienced that a few times in my life so I can relate to that. And yes, it's obvious to everyone that he wants to live with her - that was the joke in the comic book store. Which then leads to the hallway scene it all its visual poetry. I think it would be different if the question were simply about Sheldon living with Amy in 4A. Then I would agree with you that the hesitation is frustrating. But it's not just about living with Amy but moving out of 4A for good in the process. Rationally living in 4A is not that much worse than living with Amy in 4B. It's not like Sheldon was unhappy in 4A, not to mention that it has his beloved spot which in all those years has always been the one thing he would never let go of. It's a huge step for the character but also for the show and I think the way it's handled gave it the gravity it deserved.
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  20. I normally agree with everything you say, but I have to disagree in this one, well just in this sentence. The way they are making Sheldon grow in the relationship but keeping his main traits bothers me sometimes. I understand the dificulty of keep the balance between new sheldon and old sheldon, but sometimes they make the character contradictory to me. he wants to have a baby but he doesnt want to touch a baby, he is eager to begin her birtday festivities but later he wants "soldier through it" (worst traduction in spanish ever "pasar el mal trago", something like "swallow the bitter pill"), they make out but he wants to build a pillow wall, and i really dislike the "I'm open to the posibility" line in the veracity elasticity, while i believe it was beautifully resolved with the buridans donkey scene I didn't understand the doubt in the first place, after the brunch episode, the compromise reached in hot tub, the domesticity, the make out sessions.......yet it was a real possibily to go back to live with leonard an penny?.
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  21. I don't see why Penny, and even Leonard, don't just go see that psychiatrist that made them feel better. Both of them have the kind of jobs that have good health insurance that would cover at least a few sessions, and they probably could even afford them themselves in real life. Also, if Penny "has a guy" for her money, she should come clean to him about her mountain of debt and make plans to deal with it. Then she'd have some idea about how much longer she needed to do this job she doesn't like and could make some plans about what to do next. I know none of this is very funny, but the way they are going on now on the show isn't funny, either.
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  22. I really adored Shamy in this episode. All season long there's been a consistent progression of showing how happy they are together. The kiss was "Shamy-hot" but obviously meant for laughs as well. I really loved the I'll miss you part, of course. And I don't know, it's the non-verbal, non-physical things. Just seeing them together, they look so happy and in love. For all intents and purposes, they're already married. It will just be a formality at this point, lol. But nonetheless I'm waiting with bated breath for that proposal. I also liked how when Leonard lost at the chess game, Sheldon felt the need to move his last chess piece and take Leonard's piece, haha. Always has to get his closure. I also thought Howard was very funny in this episode, too. And I've been liking Bernie a lot more lately. Her chronic meanness seems to have gone away, haha. For the lenny parts, I see a lot of people saying how this is completely coming out of the blue and how Penny is totally in the wrong. And I have to say, I've seen almost this EXACT scenario in real life with my very own parents. Don't get me wrong, I think Leonard is very much in the right in this circumstance. He's always been the one who's tried harder in the relationship, way harder than Penny ever has. All throughout this episode I wanted to ask Penny, "Well what have you ever done for HIM?" But I think Penny's concerns have very little to do with Leonard and their relationship. A few years ago, seemingly out of the blue, my mom started saying all the time how my dad doesn't try in their marriage anymore, and that it doesn't appear he loves her anymore. My dad and I were baffled, because we couldn't see where she was coming from at all. But my mom was persistent, and it led them down a pretty rocky path, but ended up being better than ever. Anyway, it ended up that the problem wasn't with their relationship but with my mom herself. She was dealing with her own personal issues and projecting them onto my dad. And I think Penny is doing the same. I think she's unhappy with where she's at in life. She doesn't like her job, her friends are all seemingly happier than her. I don't think she's unhappy, she's just sort of stuck. I mean, ten years ago she was the hot party girl who was moving to LA to become a movie star and she had her whole life in front of her, and here she is settled down and married and working as pharmaceutical rep. When you have a dream your whole life that doesn't end up coming true, it makes you rethink a lot of things. And she's been saying for a year now - since the Big Bear episode - that she hates her job. Kinda personal story, but it's just my thoughts.
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  23. Despite the fact it seemed shorter than normal, I enjoyed the episode. They could have cut out the repeated part of Bernie with the baby. I loved the opening scene with Penny and it was so obvious it was a dream, Leonard knowing when he shouldn't explain something (LOL!), quoting NSYNC, and the best moment was when he opened his mouth to stay something and then burp! Kaley and Johnny were so awesome! It broke my heart when she told Leonard she would be taking Amy to the spa instead of him, and he left the room hurt. I wish the Shamy kiss had been more romantic, it was kind of weird. I know they want us to see they are quirky, but the kisses in the Harry Potter episode were way more natural to me than this one. I really thought it would be different. I laughed a lot with Howard trying to avoid the squeaky floor, I rewatched it many times! I just wish Bernie and Raj were better explored in the episode. About the episode seeming too short, I think they kind of ruined the drama part by jumping to the solution too quickly. I love it when Penny and Leonard talk about their problems, and they just skipped it all. How did they get to the conclusion they needed a RA? That scene with the drinks could also have been cut out, it really added nothing to the episode, and I feel it was there just to tell us Shamy still have a RA. What? Since when? That was the worse part for me. But the beginning of the episode and Howard saved it for me. I also liked the chess jokes and Leonard's underwear in the RA.
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  24. Overall I think it episode was good, as it was well balanced between drama and comedy. The lenny plot turned better than I thought it would, as it was hadled as one issue that happens to most of couples after knowing each other for many years and the transition from boyfriend/girlfriend to husband and wife is not easy to anyone. I think the RA was used for be a joke , however couples should settle some rules so imo it didnt hurt at,all as the rules settled would help lenny. As shamy I tend to speak more about Mayim and Jim's performances than others actors but today I have to say some words about Kaley and Johnny. I really loved their performances in this episode, as we could feel their characters's pain for not be well between each other. I especially liked Johnny's who I think he could offer so much to the show and writers have been lately put him a bit aside. I know as shipper we dont enjoy when our ship is put under fire but this plot turned good to show real life is not easy to everyone and there are issues in every marriage. Kaley was also very good too, her angry look at Leonard made me feel so sorry for him, great job Kaley and Johny! I really hope lenny sort things out between them and this phase really goes away asap for we see again the lovely Leonard with his hot and sweet Penny. Howard. Have I mentioned that him, with Sheldon and Amy, is one of may fav characters? Simon is so good with physical comedy, my laughs in this episode was because of him. The plot was not anything especial , they could do more than only put a couple to handle with a squeaky floorboard of their child's bedroom, but it was worth for Simon's performance and his interactions with Kunal and Melissa. I really hope writers can develop a bit more about this couple life, after the birth it seems a bit stagned, a bit without action.... Raj. Nothing aboard, nothing to say. As I have said earlier in DT, I am really sorry for Kunal's lucky about his Raj. Sheldon and Amy. I really enjoyed them as couple and as individuals. Mayim 's performace in this season has been really great, her performance of sassy and now passionate Amy is really spot on! I really liked how Amy finally found her space in her girlfiends group. In past, Amy tried to adjust to Penny and Bernardette and follow them as much as possible. Now Amy has her opinions and her own stuff, which she is proud about. It is really cool to see that. About the kiss it was really short, as shipper I wanted more, lol! My shamy thoughst are in their thread, as usual. And last but not least, I liked very much shelnard moments. It was nice to see Sheldon trying to cheering up Leonard, even it was in his own way but he tried because Sheldon cares for Leonard. Leonard says many harsh things about Sheldon but he knows he can count on him when he needs, even it can be showed by a simple chess game, like old times. Looking already foward to seeing next episode!
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  25. Overall I enjoyed the episode, it had a bit of everything some sweet and funny moments but also some drama when trying to raise a real life issue. The writers were trying to address a real life issue that many couples do experience at some point through their relationship. The whole subject around losing some spark in their relationship, perhaps becoming a bit complacent and the shift from boyfriend and girlfriend to husband and wife is a very real issue. I have seen from real life experience newlyweds or people pretty early into their marriage having moments similar to what Lenny are going through. I think they will be fine in the long run, just got to work through these issues. Loved Shamy in this one, Mayim especially continues to have an amazing season in terms of dialogue and she is acting her socks off. Shamy's PDA I enjoyed seeing it immensely. If you had said that kiss had happened in say Season 8 then you may have a point that it was out of character but from everything we have seen this season and the rapid growth of their relationship it's perfectly in character imo. The miss you's were my favorite Shamy part of the scene, it was adorable and using math to try and quantify is so them. They really are in a great place right now. Laughed so much at Howard trying to sort out the squeaky floorboard situation. Is Simon underrated? The guy seems to be able to do everything and his physical comedy is just so good. When I had read the TR I immediately hoped there might be some Mission Impossible shit going down lol with them trying to find a way to get to that spot. So I was so happy to see the scenes of them dreaming different audacious ways to try and get there lol. Wasn't the best episode this season but overall I thought it was good.
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  26. Tbh no one was the bad guy in this episode. They are both in the marrage. I personally beleive Penny has every right to want more from her marrage. Penny once again showed her immaturity. But tbh, when Penny walked in and Leonard was like Hi barley registering a look. I was like Leonard man show some interest in your wife! I mean heck even Sheldon did, even though it was just his show more interest in people thing. Leonard diddn't help him self, with his indifference to Penny. So I am just saying with better communication, things may have not escalated as much as they did. That is why it is really crappy, the pacing. Instead of having Lenny discuss things. They skip that for some pointless Howard jumping to the crib. Some pointless Shamy fluff. We haven't seen enough of their cringe for one episode. Instead we find out offscreen they sorted it out, yeah because I love imagaining what they were talking about. I thought Penny was shocking don't get me wrong. But let's not act like Leonard was innocent. It was refreshing for me to see them both acknowledge their issues and work on them.
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  27. Missed it. So, VOD is my friend. I'll see it on the weekend most likely. It is not like I'm real excited about this episode.
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  29. People's choice (Congrats to TBBT team on their 2 awards! )
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