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  1. serena_1995 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I don't think they were throwaway lines either.   I'm sure, by now, TPTB have an idea of how they plan to end this, if this is the final season.  Those two lines were pretty much left open so, if needed, they can bring them back up for the end.  
  2. JE7 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    That's a question I can't answer.  The problem with almost everything that has been behind TBBT, is that either the show doesn't make it to it's second season, they fail during the second season, or barely hang on.  Shit my Dad Says lasted for one year.   The Millers were canceled five episodes into it's second season, after being moved away from TBBT.    Two and A Half Men dropped by almost a quarter in the slot after TBBT (and why CBS put a veteran show like TAAHM behind it is another good question).  Life in Pieces is hanging on at 9:30 on Thursday, The Odd Couple is the likely cancellation for CBS this year, The Great Indoors loses half of TBBT's audience and Mom grows after it. Speaking of Mom, It's the only show that launched behind TBBT that is doing fairly well.  CBS is using it as a top of the hour anchor at 9 PM Thursday. TBBT seems to have had only a minimal impact on helping launch anything. 
     
    The question for CBS really is, can we afford to lose money with it?  That's a question only the accountants and the Board of CBS can answer.  If they can, for what ever reasons, they can continue to try and launch other shows.  If they can't, it won't be on next year.
    Your points are all good, in the end, CBS is going to have to figure it out.  
  3. legacy99 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I was discussing this with Tripper last week.   Remember, this is a business, and this may give you something to understand what CBS may be up against.   All these numbers are approximate, and what has been reported.  There are likely differences in the actual numbers.
    The salary for the show is currently around 5.5 million a show (a million each for the five, and around 200k for Mayim and Melissa).  For 24 episodes, this comes to 132 million.  They are also paying around 4 million per episode for the license fee.  This is another 96 million, for a total of 228 million. 
    Ad time is currently ~290,000 for a 30 second spot during new episodes.   If we go with 19 minutes of show, and 12 minutes of ads (remember the show runs until 8:31), that brings in around 7 million per episode, and 168 million for the season.  Ad rates for repeats are roughly 150,000 per 30 second spot, which would be around 3.5 million an episode.    There were 24 repeats last year, for around 84 million, bringing the total to 252 million.  
    So for this year, CBS is bringing in about 24 million off of the show.  
    Now let's look at season 11.
    If the cast (as reported) is asking for a raise, even if we give the five a minimal raise to 1.2 million, and even give Melissa and Mayim 500,000 each, that raises the the salary to 7 million an episode or 168 million for a 24 episode season.  If the licensing fee drops to 3 million, that would still add 72 million, for a total of 240 million.  
    Ad rates dropped about 30,000 per spot from last year, so another 30,000 drop this year would bring the ad rate to 260,000 for new and 130,000 for repeats.  That would be 6.2 million per episode and 150 million for the year.  With 24 repeats, that would be about 3.1 million per episode and  75 million for the year.  That totals 225 million for the year.  This would be a loss of about 16 million.  
    Now, as I said, these are rough estimates.   There are other sources of income that could cover it.  CBS could request a lower licensing fee (WB is going to make money on syndication that CBS won't see).  They could also reduce the number of new episodes, to reduce salary, which would increase the repeat number.  These are all considerations (along with others) that have to be taken into account.  Which is why this could be taking so long.
    There's a couple here who work in the field the may have better numbers (Hi Kerry), and if they think my numbers are way off or misleading, please let me know.     
    On another front, lets look at these storylines.  Molaro said he would need a couple of episode warning to wrap the series up, if this is the last season.  Let's say they use the last three episode, two to prep, and the final.   The last three episodes would tape in April.  There is a taping on the 28th of March, which is when the script, for the first of the last three (episode 21), would have to be ready.
     As the writers are three or so weeks ahead. They would start writing that episode 21 script around early to mid March.  That's only two months, or less, from right now.  They may need to have these storylines now, to be able to wrap things up.  That said, they could also write parallel scripts, where they have one for wraping things up, and one if they contracts get done.  
  4. legacy99 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I was discussing this with Tripper last week.   Remember, this is a business, and this may give you something to understand what CBS may be up against.   All these numbers are approximate, and what has been reported.  There are likely differences in the actual numbers.
    The salary for the show is currently around 5.5 million a show (a million each for the five, and around 200k for Mayim and Melissa).  For 24 episodes, this comes to 132 million.  They are also paying around 4 million per episode for the license fee.  This is another 96 million, for a total of 228 million. 
    Ad time is currently ~290,000 for a 30 second spot during new episodes.   If we go with 19 minutes of show, and 12 minutes of ads (remember the show runs until 8:31), that brings in around 7 million per episode, and 168 million for the season.  Ad rates for repeats are roughly 150,000 per 30 second spot, which would be around 3.5 million an episode.    There were 24 repeats last year, for around 84 million, bringing the total to 252 million.  
    So for this year, CBS is bringing in about 24 million off of the show.  
    Now let's look at season 11.
    If the cast (as reported) is asking for a raise, even if we give the five a minimal raise to 1.2 million, and even give Melissa and Mayim 500,000 each, that raises the the salary to 7 million an episode or 168 million for a 24 episode season.  If the licensing fee drops to 3 million, that would still add 72 million, for a total of 240 million.  
    Ad rates dropped about 30,000 per spot from last year, so another 30,000 drop this year would bring the ad rate to 260,000 for new and 130,000 for repeats.  That would be 6.2 million per episode and 150 million for the year.  With 24 repeats, that would be about 3.1 million per episode and  75 million for the year.  That totals 225 million for the year.  This would be a loss of about 16 million.  
    Now, as I said, these are rough estimates.   There are other sources of income that could cover it.  CBS could request a lower licensing fee (WB is going to make money on syndication that CBS won't see).  They could also reduce the number of new episodes, to reduce salary, which would increase the repeat number.  These are all considerations (along with others) that have to be taken into account.  Which is why this could be taking so long.
    There's a couple here who work in the field the may have better numbers (Hi Kerry), and if they think my numbers are way off or misleading, please let me know.     
    On another front, lets look at these storylines.  Molaro said he would need a couple of episode warning to wrap the series up, if this is the last season.  Let's say they use the last three episode, two to prep, and the final.   The last three episodes would tape in April.  There is a taping on the 28th of March, which is when the script, for the first of the last three (episode 21), would have to be ready.
     As the writers are three or so weeks ahead. They would start writing that episode 21 script around early to mid March.  That's only two months, or less, from right now.  They may need to have these storylines now, to be able to wrap things up.  That said, they could also write parallel scripts, where they have one for wraping things up, and one if they contracts get done.  
  5. JE7 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    That's a question I can't answer.  The problem with almost everything that has been behind TBBT, is that either the show doesn't make it to it's second season, they fail during the second season, or barely hang on.  Shit my Dad Says lasted for one year.   The Millers were canceled five episodes into it's second season, after being moved away from TBBT.    Two and A Half Men dropped by almost a quarter in the slot after TBBT (and why CBS put a veteran show like TAAHM behind it is another good question).  Life in Pieces is hanging on at 9:30 on Thursday, The Odd Couple is the likely cancellation for CBS this year, The Great Indoors loses half of TBBT's audience and Mom grows after it. Speaking of Mom, It's the only show that launched behind TBBT that is doing fairly well.  CBS is using it as a top of the hour anchor at 9 PM Thursday. TBBT seems to have had only a minimal impact on helping launch anything. 
     
    The question for CBS really is, can we afford to lose money with it?  That's a question only the accountants and the Board of CBS can answer.  If they can, for what ever reasons, they can continue to try and launch other shows.  If they can't, it won't be on next year.
    Your points are all good, in the end, CBS is going to have to figure it out.  
  6. serena_1995 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I don't think they were throwaway lines either.   I'm sure, by now, TPTB have an idea of how they plan to end this, if this is the final season.  Those two lines were pretty much left open so, if needed, they can bring them back up for the end.  
  7. legacy99 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I was discussing this with Tripper last week.   Remember, this is a business, and this may give you something to understand what CBS may be up against.   All these numbers are approximate, and what has been reported.  There are likely differences in the actual numbers.
    The salary for the show is currently around 5.5 million a show (a million each for the five, and around 200k for Mayim and Melissa).  For 24 episodes, this comes to 132 million.  They are also paying around 4 million per episode for the license fee.  This is another 96 million, for a total of 228 million. 
    Ad time is currently ~290,000 for a 30 second spot during new episodes.   If we go with 19 minutes of show, and 12 minutes of ads (remember the show runs until 8:31), that brings in around 7 million per episode, and 168 million for the season.  Ad rates for repeats are roughly 150,000 per 30 second spot, which would be around 3.5 million an episode.    There were 24 repeats last year, for around 84 million, bringing the total to 252 million.  
    So for this year, CBS is bringing in about 24 million off of the show.  
    Now let's look at season 11.
    If the cast (as reported) is asking for a raise, even if we give the five a minimal raise to 1.2 million, and even give Melissa and Mayim 500,000 each, that raises the the salary to 7 million an episode or 168 million for a 24 episode season.  If the licensing fee drops to 3 million, that would still add 72 million, for a total of 240 million.  
    Ad rates dropped about 30,000 per spot from last year, so another 30,000 drop this year would bring the ad rate to 260,000 for new and 130,000 for repeats.  That would be 6.2 million per episode and 150 million for the year.  With 24 repeats, that would be about 3.1 million per episode and  75 million for the year.  That totals 225 million for the year.  This would be a loss of about 16 million.  
    Now, as I said, these are rough estimates.   There are other sources of income that could cover it.  CBS could request a lower licensing fee (WB is going to make money on syndication that CBS won't see).  They could also reduce the number of new episodes, to reduce salary, which would increase the repeat number.  These are all considerations (along with others) that have to be taken into account.  Which is why this could be taking so long.
    There's a couple here who work in the field the may have better numbers (Hi Kerry), and if they think my numbers are way off or misleading, please let me know.     
    On another front, lets look at these storylines.  Molaro said he would need a couple of episode warning to wrap the series up, if this is the last season.  Let's say they use the last three episode, two to prep, and the final.   The last three episodes would tape in April.  There is a taping on the 28th of March, which is when the script, for the first of the last three (episode 21), would have to be ready.
     As the writers are three or so weeks ahead. They would start writing that episode 21 script around early to mid March.  That's only two months, or less, from right now.  They may need to have these storylines now, to be able to wrap things up.  That said, they could also write parallel scripts, where they have one for wraping things up, and one if they contracts get done.  
  8. amethyst liked a post in a topic by Tensor in Season 10 Ratings Thread   
    Week 18 Final Ratings For Friday, January 20, 2017.  For broadcasts, 19 January, 2017
    * Indicates a repeat
    At 8:00 PM, the new episode of TBBT, 10.14, The Romance Recalibration, brought in a 3.4, with 10.25 million people, up a tenth in demo and up 100,000 viewers from the overnights.  This was up 1.5 points in demo and up 4.90 million in viewers from the last show.  
    In first place, for demo, was TBBT* with that 3.4.  There was a tie for second, at 1.7 between  The Great Indoors, and Mom, both even in demo from the overnights and up three tenths from last week's number 2 show. 
    For viewers, TBBT* was number one with those15.15 million viewers.  Mom was second with 8.57 million viewers.  This was up 60,000 viewers from the overnights, and up 890,000 viewers from last week's second place show. The Great Indoors was in third 7.81 down 290,000 viewers from the overnights, but up 660,000 viewers from last week's number three show.
     
    Tensor
  9. legacy99 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I was discussing this with Tripper last week.   Remember, this is a business, and this may give you something to understand what CBS may be up against.   All these numbers are approximate, and what has been reported.  There are likely differences in the actual numbers.
    The salary for the show is currently around 5.5 million a show (a million each for the five, and around 200k for Mayim and Melissa).  For 24 episodes, this comes to 132 million.  They are also paying around 4 million per episode for the license fee.  This is another 96 million, for a total of 228 million. 
    Ad time is currently ~290,000 for a 30 second spot during new episodes.   If we go with 19 minutes of show, and 12 minutes of ads (remember the show runs until 8:31), that brings in around 7 million per episode, and 168 million for the season.  Ad rates for repeats are roughly 150,000 per 30 second spot, which would be around 3.5 million an episode.    There were 24 repeats last year, for around 84 million, bringing the total to 252 million.  
    So for this year, CBS is bringing in about 24 million off of the show.  
    Now let's look at season 11.
    If the cast (as reported) is asking for a raise, even if we give the five a minimal raise to 1.2 million, and even give Melissa and Mayim 500,000 each, that raises the the salary to 7 million an episode or 168 million for a 24 episode season.  If the licensing fee drops to 3 million, that would still add 72 million, for a total of 240 million.  
    Ad rates dropped about 30,000 per spot from last year, so another 30,000 drop this year would bring the ad rate to 260,000 for new and 130,000 for repeats.  That would be 6.2 million per episode and 150 million for the year.  With 24 repeats, that would be about 3.1 million per episode and  75 million for the year.  That totals 225 million for the year.  This would be a loss of about 16 million.  
    Now, as I said, these are rough estimates.   There are other sources of income that could cover it.  CBS could request a lower licensing fee (WB is going to make money on syndication that CBS won't see).  They could also reduce the number of new episodes, to reduce salary, which would increase the repeat number.  These are all considerations (along with others) that have to be taken into account.  Which is why this could be taking so long.
    There's a couple here who work in the field the may have better numbers (Hi Kerry), and if they think my numbers are way off or misleading, please let me know.     
    On another front, lets look at these storylines.  Molaro said he would need a couple of episode warning to wrap the series up, if this is the last season.  Let's say they use the last three episode, two to prep, and the final.   The last three episodes would tape in April.  There is a taping on the 28th of March, which is when the script, for the first of the last three (episode 21), would have to be ready.
     As the writers are three or so weeks ahead. They would start writing that episode 21 script around early to mid March.  That's only two months, or less, from right now.  They may need to have these storylines now, to be able to wrap things up.  That said, they could also write parallel scripts, where they have one for wraping things up, and one if they contracts get done.  
  10. serena_1995 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I don't think they were throwaway lines either.   I'm sure, by now, TPTB have an idea of how they plan to end this, if this is the final season.  Those two lines were pretty much left open so, if needed, they can bring them back up for the end.  
  11. JE7 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    That's a question I can't answer.  The problem with almost everything that has been behind TBBT, is that either the show doesn't make it to it's second season, they fail during the second season, or barely hang on.  Shit my Dad Says lasted for one year.   The Millers were canceled five episodes into it's second season, after being moved away from TBBT.    Two and A Half Men dropped by almost a quarter in the slot after TBBT (and why CBS put a veteran show like TAAHM behind it is another good question).  Life in Pieces is hanging on at 9:30 on Thursday, The Odd Couple is the likely cancellation for CBS this year, The Great Indoors loses half of TBBT's audience and Mom grows after it. Speaking of Mom, It's the only show that launched behind TBBT that is doing fairly well.  CBS is using it as a top of the hour anchor at 9 PM Thursday. TBBT seems to have had only a minimal impact on helping launch anything. 
     
    The question for CBS really is, can we afford to lose money with it?  That's a question only the accountants and the Board of CBS can answer.  If they can, for what ever reasons, they can continue to try and launch other shows.  If they can't, it won't be on next year.
    Your points are all good, in the end, CBS is going to have to figure it out.  
  12. legacy99 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I was discussing this with Tripper last week.   Remember, this is a business, and this may give you something to understand what CBS may be up against.   All these numbers are approximate, and what has been reported.  There are likely differences in the actual numbers.
    The salary for the show is currently around 5.5 million a show (a million each for the five, and around 200k for Mayim and Melissa).  For 24 episodes, this comes to 132 million.  They are also paying around 4 million per episode for the license fee.  This is another 96 million, for a total of 228 million. 
    Ad time is currently ~290,000 for a 30 second spot during new episodes.   If we go with 19 minutes of show, and 12 minutes of ads (remember the show runs until 8:31), that brings in around 7 million per episode, and 168 million for the season.  Ad rates for repeats are roughly 150,000 per 30 second spot, which would be around 3.5 million an episode.    There were 24 repeats last year, for around 84 million, bringing the total to 252 million.  
    So for this year, CBS is bringing in about 24 million off of the show.  
    Now let's look at season 11.
    If the cast (as reported) is asking for a raise, even if we give the five a minimal raise to 1.2 million, and even give Melissa and Mayim 500,000 each, that raises the the salary to 7 million an episode or 168 million for a 24 episode season.  If the licensing fee drops to 3 million, that would still add 72 million, for a total of 240 million.  
    Ad rates dropped about 30,000 per spot from last year, so another 30,000 drop this year would bring the ad rate to 260,000 for new and 130,000 for repeats.  That would be 6.2 million per episode and 150 million for the year.  With 24 repeats, that would be about 3.1 million per episode and  75 million for the year.  That totals 225 million for the year.  This would be a loss of about 16 million.  
    Now, as I said, these are rough estimates.   There are other sources of income that could cover it.  CBS could request a lower licensing fee (WB is going to make money on syndication that CBS won't see).  They could also reduce the number of new episodes, to reduce salary, which would increase the repeat number.  These are all considerations (along with others) that have to be taken into account.  Which is why this could be taking so long.
    There's a couple here who work in the field the may have better numbers (Hi Kerry), and if they think my numbers are way off or misleading, please let me know.     
    On another front, lets look at these storylines.  Molaro said he would need a couple of episode warning to wrap the series up, if this is the last season.  Let's say they use the last three episode, two to prep, and the final.   The last three episodes would tape in April.  There is a taping on the 28th of March, which is when the script, for the first of the last three (episode 21), would have to be ready.
     As the writers are three or so weeks ahead. They would start writing that episode 21 script around early to mid March.  That's only two months, or less, from right now.  They may need to have these storylines now, to be able to wrap things up.  That said, they could also write parallel scripts, where they have one for wraping things up, and one if they contracts get done.  
  13. JE7 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    That's a question I can't answer.  The problem with almost everything that has been behind TBBT, is that either the show doesn't make it to it's second season, they fail during the second season, or barely hang on.  Shit my Dad Says lasted for one year.   The Millers were canceled five episodes into it's second season, after being moved away from TBBT.    Two and A Half Men dropped by almost a quarter in the slot after TBBT (and why CBS put a veteran show like TAAHM behind it is another good question).  Life in Pieces is hanging on at 9:30 on Thursday, The Odd Couple is the likely cancellation for CBS this year, The Great Indoors loses half of TBBT's audience and Mom grows after it. Speaking of Mom, It's the only show that launched behind TBBT that is doing fairly well.  CBS is using it as a top of the hour anchor at 9 PM Thursday. TBBT seems to have had only a minimal impact on helping launch anything. 
     
    The question for CBS really is, can we afford to lose money with it?  That's a question only the accountants and the Board of CBS can answer.  If they can, for what ever reasons, they can continue to try and launch other shows.  If they can't, it won't be on next year.
    Your points are all good, in the end, CBS is going to have to figure it out.  
  14. legacy99 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I was discussing this with Tripper last week.   Remember, this is a business, and this may give you something to understand what CBS may be up against.   All these numbers are approximate, and what has been reported.  There are likely differences in the actual numbers.
    The salary for the show is currently around 5.5 million a show (a million each for the five, and around 200k for Mayim and Melissa).  For 24 episodes, this comes to 132 million.  They are also paying around 4 million per episode for the license fee.  This is another 96 million, for a total of 228 million. 
    Ad time is currently ~290,000 for a 30 second spot during new episodes.   If we go with 19 minutes of show, and 12 minutes of ads (remember the show runs until 8:31), that brings in around 7 million per episode, and 168 million for the season.  Ad rates for repeats are roughly 150,000 per 30 second spot, which would be around 3.5 million an episode.    There were 24 repeats last year, for around 84 million, bringing the total to 252 million.  
    So for this year, CBS is bringing in about 24 million off of the show.  
    Now let's look at season 11.
    If the cast (as reported) is asking for a raise, even if we give the five a minimal raise to 1.2 million, and even give Melissa and Mayim 500,000 each, that raises the the salary to 7 million an episode or 168 million for a 24 episode season.  If the licensing fee drops to 3 million, that would still add 72 million, for a total of 240 million.  
    Ad rates dropped about 30,000 per spot from last year, so another 30,000 drop this year would bring the ad rate to 260,000 for new and 130,000 for repeats.  That would be 6.2 million per episode and 150 million for the year.  With 24 repeats, that would be about 3.1 million per episode and  75 million for the year.  That totals 225 million for the year.  This would be a loss of about 16 million.  
    Now, as I said, these are rough estimates.   There are other sources of income that could cover it.  CBS could request a lower licensing fee (WB is going to make money on syndication that CBS won't see).  They could also reduce the number of new episodes, to reduce salary, which would increase the repeat number.  These are all considerations (along with others) that have to be taken into account.  Which is why this could be taking so long.
    There's a couple here who work in the field the may have better numbers (Hi Kerry), and if they think my numbers are way off or misleading, please let me know.     
    On another front, lets look at these storylines.  Molaro said he would need a couple of episode warning to wrap the series up, if this is the last season.  Let's say they use the last three episode, two to prep, and the final.   The last three episodes would tape in April.  There is a taping on the 28th of March, which is when the script, for the first of the last three (episode 21), would have to be ready.
     As the writers are three or so weeks ahead. They would start writing that episode 21 script around early to mid March.  That's only two months, or less, from right now.  They may need to have these storylines now, to be able to wrap things up.  That said, they could also write parallel scripts, where they have one for wraping things up, and one if they contracts get done.  
  15. legacy99 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I was discussing this with Tripper last week.   Remember, this is a business, and this may give you something to understand what CBS may be up against.   All these numbers are approximate, and what has been reported.  There are likely differences in the actual numbers.
    The salary for the show is currently around 5.5 million a show (a million each for the five, and around 200k for Mayim and Melissa).  For 24 episodes, this comes to 132 million.  They are also paying around 4 million per episode for the license fee.  This is another 96 million, for a total of 228 million. 
    Ad time is currently ~290,000 for a 30 second spot during new episodes.   If we go with 19 minutes of show, and 12 minutes of ads (remember the show runs until 8:31), that brings in around 7 million per episode, and 168 million for the season.  Ad rates for repeats are roughly 150,000 per 30 second spot, which would be around 3.5 million an episode.    There were 24 repeats last year, for around 84 million, bringing the total to 252 million.  
    So for this year, CBS is bringing in about 24 million off of the show.  
    Now let's look at season 11.
    If the cast (as reported) is asking for a raise, even if we give the five a minimal raise to 1.2 million, and even give Melissa and Mayim 500,000 each, that raises the the salary to 7 million an episode or 168 million for a 24 episode season.  If the licensing fee drops to 3 million, that would still add 72 million, for a total of 240 million.  
    Ad rates dropped about 30,000 per spot from last year, so another 30,000 drop this year would bring the ad rate to 260,000 for new and 130,000 for repeats.  That would be 6.2 million per episode and 150 million for the year.  With 24 repeats, that would be about 3.1 million per episode and  75 million for the year.  That totals 225 million for the year.  This would be a loss of about 16 million.  
    Now, as I said, these are rough estimates.   There are other sources of income that could cover it.  CBS could request a lower licensing fee (WB is going to make money on syndication that CBS won't see).  They could also reduce the number of new episodes, to reduce salary, which would increase the repeat number.  These are all considerations (along with others) that have to be taken into account.  Which is why this could be taking so long.
    There's a couple here who work in the field the may have better numbers (Hi Kerry), and if they think my numbers are way off or misleading, please let me know.     
    On another front, lets look at these storylines.  Molaro said he would need a couple of episode warning to wrap the series up, if this is the last season.  Let's say they use the last three episode, two to prep, and the final.   The last three episodes would tape in April.  There is a taping on the 28th of March, which is when the script, for the first of the last three (episode 21), would have to be ready.
     As the writers are three or so weeks ahead. They would start writing that episode 21 script around early to mid March.  That's only two months, or less, from right now.  They may need to have these storylines now, to be able to wrap things up.  That said, they could also write parallel scripts, where they have one for wraping things up, and one if they contracts get done.  
  16. serena_1995 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I don't think they were throwaway lines either.   I'm sure, by now, TPTB have an idea of how they plan to end this, if this is the final season.  Those two lines were pretty much left open so, if needed, they can bring them back up for the end.  
  17. JE7 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    That's a question I can't answer.  The problem with almost everything that has been behind TBBT, is that either the show doesn't make it to it's second season, they fail during the second season, or barely hang on.  Shit my Dad Says lasted for one year.   The Millers were canceled five episodes into it's second season, after being moved away from TBBT.    Two and A Half Men dropped by almost a quarter in the slot after TBBT (and why CBS put a veteran show like TAAHM behind it is another good question).  Life in Pieces is hanging on at 9:30 on Thursday, The Odd Couple is the likely cancellation for CBS this year, The Great Indoors loses half of TBBT's audience and Mom grows after it. Speaking of Mom, It's the only show that launched behind TBBT that is doing fairly well.  CBS is using it as a top of the hour anchor at 9 PM Thursday. TBBT seems to have had only a minimal impact on helping launch anything. 
     
    The question for CBS really is, can we afford to lose money with it?  That's a question only the accountants and the Board of CBS can answer.  If they can, for what ever reasons, they can continue to try and launch other shows.  If they can't, it won't be on next year.
    Your points are all good, in the end, CBS is going to have to figure it out.  
  18. serena_1995 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I don't think they were throwaway lines either.   I'm sure, by now, TPTB have an idea of how they plan to end this, if this is the final season.  Those two lines were pretty much left open so, if needed, they can bring them back up for the end.  
  19. JE7 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    That's a question I can't answer.  The problem with almost everything that has been behind TBBT, is that either the show doesn't make it to it's second season, they fail during the second season, or barely hang on.  Shit my Dad Says lasted for one year.   The Millers were canceled five episodes into it's second season, after being moved away from TBBT.    Two and A Half Men dropped by almost a quarter in the slot after TBBT (and why CBS put a veteran show like TAAHM behind it is another good question).  Life in Pieces is hanging on at 9:30 on Thursday, The Odd Couple is the likely cancellation for CBS this year, The Great Indoors loses half of TBBT's audience and Mom grows after it. Speaking of Mom, It's the only show that launched behind TBBT that is doing fairly well.  CBS is using it as a top of the hour anchor at 9 PM Thursday. TBBT seems to have had only a minimal impact on helping launch anything. 
     
    The question for CBS really is, can we afford to lose money with it?  That's a question only the accountants and the Board of CBS can answer.  If they can, for what ever reasons, they can continue to try and launch other shows.  If they can't, it won't be on next year.
    Your points are all good, in the end, CBS is going to have to figure it out.  
  20. legacy99 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I was discussing this with Tripper last week.   Remember, this is a business, and this may give you something to understand what CBS may be up against.   All these numbers are approximate, and what has been reported.  There are likely differences in the actual numbers.
    The salary for the show is currently around 5.5 million a show (a million each for the five, and around 200k for Mayim and Melissa).  For 24 episodes, this comes to 132 million.  They are also paying around 4 million per episode for the license fee.  This is another 96 million, for a total of 228 million. 
    Ad time is currently ~290,000 for a 30 second spot during new episodes.   If we go with 19 minutes of show, and 12 minutes of ads (remember the show runs until 8:31), that brings in around 7 million per episode, and 168 million for the season.  Ad rates for repeats are roughly 150,000 per 30 second spot, which would be around 3.5 million an episode.    There were 24 repeats last year, for around 84 million, bringing the total to 252 million.  
    So for this year, CBS is bringing in about 24 million off of the show.  
    Now let's look at season 11.
    If the cast (as reported) is asking for a raise, even if we give the five a minimal raise to 1.2 million, and even give Melissa and Mayim 500,000 each, that raises the the salary to 7 million an episode or 168 million for a 24 episode season.  If the licensing fee drops to 3 million, that would still add 72 million, for a total of 240 million.  
    Ad rates dropped about 30,000 per spot from last year, so another 30,000 drop this year would bring the ad rate to 260,000 for new and 130,000 for repeats.  That would be 6.2 million per episode and 150 million for the year.  With 24 repeats, that would be about 3.1 million per episode and  75 million for the year.  That totals 225 million for the year.  This would be a loss of about 16 million.  
    Now, as I said, these are rough estimates.   There are other sources of income that could cover it.  CBS could request a lower licensing fee (WB is going to make money on syndication that CBS won't see).  They could also reduce the number of new episodes, to reduce salary, which would increase the repeat number.  These are all considerations (along with others) that have to be taken into account.  Which is why this could be taking so long.
    There's a couple here who work in the field the may have better numbers (Hi Kerry), and if they think my numbers are way off or misleading, please let me know.     
    On another front, lets look at these storylines.  Molaro said he would need a couple of episode warning to wrap the series up, if this is the last season.  Let's say they use the last three episode, two to prep, and the final.   The last three episodes would tape in April.  There is a taping on the 28th of March, which is when the script, for the first of the last three (episode 21), would have to be ready.
     As the writers are three or so weeks ahead. They would start writing that episode 21 script around early to mid March.  That's only two months, or less, from right now.  They may need to have these storylines now, to be able to wrap things up.  That said, they could also write parallel scripts, where they have one for wraping things up, and one if they contracts get done.  
  21. legacy99 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I was discussing this with Tripper last week.   Remember, this is a business, and this may give you something to understand what CBS may be up against.   All these numbers are approximate, and what has been reported.  There are likely differences in the actual numbers.
    The salary for the show is currently around 5.5 million a show (a million each for the five, and around 200k for Mayim and Melissa).  For 24 episodes, this comes to 132 million.  They are also paying around 4 million per episode for the license fee.  This is another 96 million, for a total of 228 million. 
    Ad time is currently ~290,000 for a 30 second spot during new episodes.   If we go with 19 minutes of show, and 12 minutes of ads (remember the show runs until 8:31), that brings in around 7 million per episode, and 168 million for the season.  Ad rates for repeats are roughly 150,000 per 30 second spot, which would be around 3.5 million an episode.    There were 24 repeats last year, for around 84 million, bringing the total to 252 million.  
    So for this year, CBS is bringing in about 24 million off of the show.  
    Now let's look at season 11.
    If the cast (as reported) is asking for a raise, even if we give the five a minimal raise to 1.2 million, and even give Melissa and Mayim 500,000 each, that raises the the salary to 7 million an episode or 168 million for a 24 episode season.  If the licensing fee drops to 3 million, that would still add 72 million, for a total of 240 million.  
    Ad rates dropped about 30,000 per spot from last year, so another 30,000 drop this year would bring the ad rate to 260,000 for new and 130,000 for repeats.  That would be 6.2 million per episode and 150 million for the year.  With 24 repeats, that would be about 3.1 million per episode and  75 million for the year.  That totals 225 million for the year.  This would be a loss of about 16 million.  
    Now, as I said, these are rough estimates.   There are other sources of income that could cover it.  CBS could request a lower licensing fee (WB is going to make money on syndication that CBS won't see).  They could also reduce the number of new episodes, to reduce salary, which would increase the repeat number.  These are all considerations (along with others) that have to be taken into account.  Which is why this could be taking so long.
    There's a couple here who work in the field the may have better numbers (Hi Kerry), and if they think my numbers are way off or misleading, please let me know.     
    On another front, lets look at these storylines.  Molaro said he would need a couple of episode warning to wrap the series up, if this is the last season.  Let's say they use the last three episode, two to prep, and the final.   The last three episodes would tape in April.  There is a taping on the 28th of March, which is when the script, for the first of the last three (episode 21), would have to be ready.
     As the writers are three or so weeks ahead. They would start writing that episode 21 script around early to mid March.  That's only two months, or less, from right now.  They may need to have these storylines now, to be able to wrap things up.  That said, they could also write parallel scripts, where they have one for wraping things up, and one if they contracts get done.  
  22. legacy99 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I was discussing this with Tripper last week.   Remember, this is a business, and this may give you something to understand what CBS may be up against.   All these numbers are approximate, and what has been reported.  There are likely differences in the actual numbers.
    The salary for the show is currently around 5.5 million a show (a million each for the five, and around 200k for Mayim and Melissa).  For 24 episodes, this comes to 132 million.  They are also paying around 4 million per episode for the license fee.  This is another 96 million, for a total of 228 million. 
    Ad time is currently ~290,000 for a 30 second spot during new episodes.   If we go with 19 minutes of show, and 12 minutes of ads (remember the show runs until 8:31), that brings in around 7 million per episode, and 168 million for the season.  Ad rates for repeats are roughly 150,000 per 30 second spot, which would be around 3.5 million an episode.    There were 24 repeats last year, for around 84 million, bringing the total to 252 million.  
    So for this year, CBS is bringing in about 24 million off of the show.  
    Now let's look at season 11.
    If the cast (as reported) is asking for a raise, even if we give the five a minimal raise to 1.2 million, and even give Melissa and Mayim 500,000 each, that raises the the salary to 7 million an episode or 168 million for a 24 episode season.  If the licensing fee drops to 3 million, that would still add 72 million, for a total of 240 million.  
    Ad rates dropped about 30,000 per spot from last year, so another 30,000 drop this year would bring the ad rate to 260,000 for new and 130,000 for repeats.  That would be 6.2 million per episode and 150 million for the year.  With 24 repeats, that would be about 3.1 million per episode and  75 million for the year.  That totals 225 million for the year.  This would be a loss of about 16 million.  
    Now, as I said, these are rough estimates.   There are other sources of income that could cover it.  CBS could request a lower licensing fee (WB is going to make money on syndication that CBS won't see).  They could also reduce the number of new episodes, to reduce salary, which would increase the repeat number.  These are all considerations (along with others) that have to be taken into account.  Which is why this could be taking so long.
    There's a couple here who work in the field the may have better numbers (Hi Kerry), and if they think my numbers are way off or misleading, please let me know.     
    On another front, lets look at these storylines.  Molaro said he would need a couple of episode warning to wrap the series up, if this is the last season.  Let's say they use the last three episode, two to prep, and the final.   The last three episodes would tape in April.  There is a taping on the 28th of March, which is when the script, for the first of the last three (episode 21), would have to be ready.
     As the writers are three or so weeks ahead. They would start writing that episode 21 script around early to mid March.  That's only two months, or less, from right now.  They may need to have these storylines now, to be able to wrap things up.  That said, they could also write parallel scripts, where they have one for wraping things up, and one if they contracts get done.  
  23. legacy99 liked a post in a topic by Tensor in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    I was discussing this with Tripper last week.   Remember, this is a business, and this may give you something to understand what CBS may be up against.   All these numbers are approximate, and what has been reported.  There are likely differences in the actual numbers.
    The salary for the show is currently around 5.5 million a show (a million each for the five, and around 200k for Mayim and Melissa).  For 24 episodes, this comes to 132 million.  They are also paying around 4 million per episode for the license fee.  This is another 96 million, for a total of 228 million. 
    Ad time is currently ~290,000 for a 30 second spot during new episodes.   If we go with 19 minutes of show, and 12 minutes of ads (remember the show runs until 8:31), that brings in around 7 million per episode, and 168 million for the season.  Ad rates for repeats are roughly 150,000 per 30 second spot, which would be around 3.5 million an episode.    There were 24 repeats last year, for around 84 million, bringing the total to 252 million.  
    So for this year, CBS is bringing in about 24 million off of the show.  
    Now let's look at season 11.
    If the cast (as reported) is asking for a raise, even if we give the five a minimal raise to 1.2 million, and even give Melissa and Mayim 500,000 each, that raises the the salary to 7 million an episode or 168 million for a 24 episode season.  If the licensing fee drops to 3 million, that would still add 72 million, for a total of 240 million.  
    Ad rates dropped about 30,000 per spot from last year, so another 30,000 drop this year would bring the ad rate to 260,000 for new and 130,000 for repeats.  That would be 6.2 million per episode and 150 million for the year.  With 24 repeats, that would be about 3.1 million per episode and  75 million for the year.  That totals 225 million for the year.  This would be a loss of about 16 million.  
    Now, as I said, these are rough estimates.   There are other sources of income that could cover it.  CBS could request a lower licensing fee (WB is going to make money on syndication that CBS won't see).  They could also reduce the number of new episodes, to reduce salary, which would increase the repeat number.  These are all considerations (along with others) that have to be taken into account.  Which is why this could be taking so long.
    There's a couple here who work in the field the may have better numbers (Hi Kerry), and if they think my numbers are way off or misleading, please let me know.     
    On another front, lets look at these storylines.  Molaro said he would need a couple of episode warning to wrap the series up, if this is the last season.  Let's say they use the last three episode, two to prep, and the final.   The last three episodes would tape in April.  There is a taping on the 28th of March, which is when the script, for the first of the last three (episode 21), would have to be ready.
     As the writers are three or so weeks ahead. They would start writing that episode 21 script around early to mid March.  That's only two months, or less, from right now.  They may need to have these storylines now, to be able to wrap things up.  That said, they could also write parallel scripts, where they have one for wraping things up, and one if they contracts get done.  
  24. Tensor liked a post in a topic by hokie3457 in [Spoilers] Discussion: Season 10   
    Ah! You see that is one of the joys of a forum like this.  The ability to go out into the dark and shake your fist in the air.  To go to the window, throw it open and yell to the evening "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!".  To howl at the moon.  To bark at the passing cars.
    It is also a place to revel in the antics of your favorite characters when things are going the way you would like.  To find rapture in a kiss, a look between your OTP, your ship.  To laugh out loud at jokes and to cringe at others.  To giggle (or roll your eyes) at "Bazinga" or equally at "Isn't this where he says 'bazooka' or something?".  It is a place to glory in your love of something along with others whom you may never meet.  Also to bitch, to moan, to complain when they are not meeting your expectations.  It is a place to argue with others, even if it turns out to be a humongous circle.  Love or hate what is going on, we're here because there is something that we love about The Big Bang Theory.  Oh.  And don't worry.  Tables will turn (or flip) and those that are loving things about it this week may find something to hate about next week, or next month, or (Lorre/Prady willing) next year.  Those who are miserable about certain depictions may find something to love once more......
    This really is a marvelous place.......
  25. amethyst liked a post in a topic by Tensor in Season 10 Ratings Thread   
    Week 18 Final Ratings For Friday, January 20, 2017.  For broadcasts, 19 January, 2017
    * Indicates a repeat
    At 8:00 PM, the new episode of TBBT, 10.14, The Romance Recalibration, brought in a 3.4, with 10.25 million people, up a tenth in demo and up 100,000 viewers from the overnights.  This was up 1.5 points in demo and up 4.90 million in viewers from the last show.  
    In first place, for demo, was TBBT* with that 3.4.  There was a tie for second, at 1.7 between  The Great Indoors, and Mom, both even in demo from the overnights and up three tenths from last week's number 2 show. 
    For viewers, TBBT* was number one with those15.15 million viewers.  Mom was second with 8.57 million viewers.  This was up 60,000 viewers from the overnights, and up 890,000 viewers from last week's second place show. The Great Indoors was in third 7.81 down 290,000 viewers from the overnights, but up 660,000 viewers from last week's number three show.
     
    Tensor