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Howard - The Letter From His Father


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  1. 1. The real message from Howards dad came from...?

    • Raj
      3
    • Sheldon
      7
    • Amy
      17
    • Penny
      3
    • Leonard
      23
    • Bernadette
      8

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Not my favourite episode but we can still have some fun with it.

Which character do you think told Howard the correct message from his father? ….and why. Do you think his father will make an appearance? William Shatner has been suggested by a few on the net.

Was it...

 

Raj's 18th birthday card?
Sheldon's Goonies treasure map?
Amy's graduation story?
Penny's double-life story?
Leonard's message about not throwing away family?
Bernadette's baby photo story and gift message?

Personally, I think it's Leonard's message but I'm voting Penny's because it would lead to more fun. Even if the guy is crazy and thinks he's a spy it would work for me.

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Sheldon referred to it more than once as a "letter" - that was Leonard's, right? 

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Sheldon referred to it more than once as a "letter" - that was Leonard's, right? 

 

He did. Which could be Leonard's, Amy's, Penny's or Bernadette's if the photo was wrapped inside a note.

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Hmm.  I'm still going to go with Leonard, although I like Amy's graduation story too.   

 

I really like how they did that.  It was a cool solution.  

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I also think it is Leonard's.

 

IMO, I think they would give the real "story" to someone close to Howard, Raj, Leonard or Bernadette. I don't think it was Raj or Bernadette's because he could feel from the envelope if there was a photo or a card. Sheldon's was the goonies. Penny's seemed, to me, the least unlikely. 

 

Either way, they all had me tearing up :)

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I'd like Amy's, Penny's or Leonard's. But realistically it's either Amy's or Leonard's. I can't decide which one I prefer between these two. 

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I really love Amy's version. It's so deep, so touching and so beautiful. And the way she delivered it was both gentle and serious. 

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I thought the acting in that whole scene was great.  They all (except Jim) got to show their dramatic chops.

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So Amy's slightly in the lead with the graduation story. If they did cast Howard's dad  we might learn which one of these is real. Somehow I don't think they will do this because it would spoil the idea... so I'm going to guess and say we won't see Howard's dad.

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I liked Amy's, and Bernadette's but you probably could tell if there was a photo included in the envelope. The were very credible besides Sheldon's.

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It's a toss-up between Leonard or Amy.

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I liked Amy's message, but like koops it is realistically that's either Amy's or Leonard's. But I can't also decide which one I prefer between these two. And hopefully the writers will explore this even further in future episodes.

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Well, the question here is which message I THINK is the real and not which message I LIKE MORE.

Bernadette´s and Amy´s are the most beautiful IMO and these are the ones I like more.

Leonard story will be ok if this message was sent after Howard marriage but in reality was sent in his 18th birthday.

BUT sadly I think the real message was Raj´s. Maybe because this is the way I imagine his father. He was who knows where and then suddenly he remembered that his son was in his 18th birthday then he sent a fast letter telling happy birthday to him. It is good Howard never opened it. I don´t know if I want to see him :(

Edited by Lissie

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But if the writers decide to make his father come to the program and to be accepted for the group the only story working IMO will be Penny´s.

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I liked Amy's graduation story (and the delivery of it) most; but for most probable, I think I'll go with Bernadette. Her story is equally plausible (all 5 are), but I have a feeling they would give the true version to his wife.

 

Still, I like not knowing and being in a state of epistemic ambivalence. :D

 

Sheldon was super-annoying in this scene, but I guess that was the point.. to have him keep interrupting with his absurdities, to keep the tone from getting completely serious and deep. They've already dared to make a pretty deep episode, as it is.

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I liked Amy's graduation story (and the delivery of it) most; but for most probable, I think I'll go with Bernadette. Her story is equally plausible (all 5 are), but I have a feeling they would give the true version to his wife.

 

Still, I like not knowing and being in a state of epistemic ambivalence. :D

 

Sheldon was super-annoying in this scene, but I guess that was the point.. to have him keep interrupting with his absurdities, to keep the tone from getting completely serious and deep. They've already dared to make a pretty deep episode, as it is.

 

Sheldon was super annoying because the version of the message he came up with wasn't funny.

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I liked Amy's graduation story (and the delivery of it) most; but for most probable, I think I'll go with Bernadette. Her story is equally plausible (all 5 are), but I have a feeling they would give the true version to his wife.

 

That was my first reaction too but now I'm not so sure.  She might be too close to the situation.  Leonard seemed to be the leader, calling on everyone when it was their turn.  Leonard's story was an expression of regret as well as fatherly advice not to repeat his mistakes, which resonated with me.  When I read the taping report I was disappointed they didn't reveal which was the real story, but now having seen the episode I'm like Howard.  I want them all to be real and it's OK not to know which one it was.

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It wasn't funny, but it was Sheldonesque in his convoluted way of making up stories with absurd names et al. They did get him to interrupt a little too often, though.

 

That was my first reaction too but now I'm not so sure.  She might be
too close to the situation.  Leonard seemed to be the leader, calling
on everyone when it was their turn.  Leonard's story was an expression
of regret as well as fatherly advice not to repeat his mistakes, which
resonated with me.  When I read the taping report I was disappointed
they didn't reveal which was the real story, but now having seen the
episode I'm like Howard.  I want them all to be real and it's OK not to
know which one it was.

 

You may be right. His version was actually the most pragmatic one, while Amy and Bernadette's stories were purely emotional and Penny's was a little far-fetched.

 

I agree with not needing to know. For all that, the truth may also be a linear combination of all their stories (besides Sheldon), to different extents.

Edited by Pomita

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I kind of want all of them to be part of the truth, so that each of them mentioned a portion of the whole story.

Except Sheldon's story. Though it would be really funny if the letter had included some kind of treasure map. :p

If I had to choose only one, I think I'd go with Leonard's story. When Howard was in space I was wondering what it would be like if his dad would suddenly show up after having seen him on the news or something.

But I also like what we saw of Howard bonding with Bernie's dad, so I don't know if I'd want to see Howard's dad showing up at this point.

I did like this episode, though. It was a really nice look at this part of who Howard is. And though perhaps Bernie overstepped a bit, I do think that it could have been important for her to know the contents in case it was something crucial. Even though Sheldon knew the contents, who knows whether he'd understand what might be important.

And I loved Sheldon and his interruptions. I think that he wanted his story to be considered as a real possibility, even though he wasn't able to imagine a plausible alternative to the true story, which he didn't get to tell, even though he knew the true story. And I loved him and Amy in that scene. :)

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It wasn't funny, but it was Sheldonesque in his convoluted way of making up stories with absurd names et al. They did get him to interrupt a little too often, though.

 

 

You may be right. His version was actually the most pragmatic one, while Amy and Bernadette's stories were purely emotional and Penny's was a little far-fetched.

 

I agree with not needing to know. For all that, the truth may also be a linear combination of all their stories (besides Sheldon), to different extents.

 

Pom, are you a math person?  Sounds like you've taken matrix (linear) algebra. 

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I pick Sheldon's story because i love the idea of BBT meets Goonies episode with lost treasure map and that Howard's dad is real life modern day pirate.  If you think about it most pirates travel from port to port and leave women and children behind so its not as farfetched as it may have seemed at first.  Plus the idea of them all trapped on a boat or Island for summer with Sheldon during the hiatus while they attempt a search and rescue of  Howard's dad intrigues me lol

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 I wanted to believe Sheldon too. However if he were telling the TRUE story he would not have been able to change ANY details without his story  becoming false

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I pick Sheldon's story because i love the idea of BBT meets Goonies episode with lost treasure map and that Howard's dad is real life modern day pirate.  If you think about it most pirates travel from port to port and leave women and children behind so its not as farfetched as it may have seemed at first.  Plus the idea of them all trapped on a boat or Island for summer with Sheldon during the hiatus while they attempt a search and rescue of  Howard's dad intrigues me lol

 

I love that some people have picked Sheldon's story :icon_lol:

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Posted (edited)

amy or leonard hard to pick:

go with leonard-family

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for graduation you have to say how many

people are comming,how did he get in.

Edited by mjc45

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