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Sheldon Is A Jerk

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Why, given his revolting personality, would anyone remain friends with this complete tool?

 

I watch several re-runs a week at 6pm on E4 in the UK and have seen every episode so I have followed the development of the character. Why have Raj, Leonard and Howard not pinned the enormous jerk down and beaten him senseless? In the real world, if you treated someone in the manner Sheldon treats Raj in 'The Griffin Equivalency' you would soon find yourself friendless

 

I know fans love the character 'Sheldon' but really he is a completely despicable person who would be shunned in the real world. I had similar discussions with fans of the sociopath Tony Soprano, one of the most depraved and evil characters ever displayed on TV, and I encouraged them to explain why they liked him.

 

So, TBBT fans (I am one too by the way), please explain why you like this character? I can tell you if a collosal prick treated me the way Sheldon treats people I would be telling him where yo get off in no uncertain terms. If he then repeated the behaviour I'd hurt him badly

 

so why do  the guys put up with him? he offers absolutely nothing to the people he knows apart from a whole list of flaws

 

anyone? 

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May be I should start listing all the despicable behaviours he demonstrates in every show? Perhaps his fans could explain them?

 

 

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This is a good question. Why do I love Sheldon Cooper?

For one, the man is brilliant. He is also easy on the eyes. His facial expressions alone are enough to cause the one on the receiving end to melt to his will during a disagreement. It is difficult to refute some of his logic.

The key is fiction vs. reality. In fiction, I am on the outside looking in. I am not actually dealing with the person. Through entertainment, I've learned about his background, experiences, and interactions that have shaped his personality and make him tick. I am more sympathetic and forgiving because I understand why he is the way he is and does what he does.

Had Amy not appeared on the scene, I think Sheldon would have worn out his welcome a long time ago, and I would have given up on him by now. In fact, his treatment of Amy at times made me want to crawl through the TV and wring his neck and also hers for allowing it. However, his willingness to make amends and her willingness to accept what he can give helps me overcome my frustration because I see potential for progress on both sides.

Whereas Sheldon doesn't always realize how he comes across, I feel sorry for when he is the brunt of jokes and mistreatment of his friends who clearly know what they are doing. He is not always the one who is being the jerk.

Getting back to the entry paragraph, in spite of his flaws, I also see his positive side, what he brings to the table, and his potential for growth and change as he is motivated and pushed by those around him who put up with him.

As with any article of fiction, I stay-tuned to see how broken Sheldon handles adversity, progresses as an individual, develops into better boyfriend, and improves his interactions within his social construct. I enjoy the ride to what will hopefully be a happy ending.

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This is a good question. Why do I love Sheldon Cooper?

For one, the man is brilliant. He is also easy on the eyes. His facial expressions alone are enough to cause the one on the receiving end to melt to his will during a disagreement. It is difficult to refute some of his logic.

The key is fiction vs. reality. In fiction, I am on the outside looking in. I am not actually dealing with the person. Through entertainment, I've learned about his background, experiences, and interactions that have shaped his personality and make him tick. I am more sympathetic and forgiving because I understand why he is the way he is and does what he does.

Had Amy not appeared on the scene, I think Sheldon would have worn out his welcome a long time ago, and I would have given up on him by now. In fact, his treatment of Amy at times made me want to crawl through the TV and wring his neck and also hers for allowing it. However, his willingness to make amends and her willingness to accept what he can give helps me overcome my frustration because I see potential for progress on both sides.

Whereas Sheldon doesn't always realize how he comes across, I feel sorry for when he is the brunt of jokes and mistreatment of his friends who clearly know what they are doing. He is not always the one who is being the jerk.

Getting back to the entry paragraph, in spite of his flaws, I also see his positive side, what he brings to the table, and his potential for growth and change as he is motivated and pushed by those around him who put up with him.

As with any article of fiction, I stay-tuned to see how broken Sheldon handles adversity, progresses as an individual, develops into better boyfriend, and improves his interactions within his social construct. I enjoy the ride to what will hopefully be a happy ending.

 

yeah nice try but no dice

 

you don't forgive disgraceful behaviour because of background

 

from the way he treated the assistant Alex, his whole response to Howard going in to space, Raj's article in People Magazine, saying things like 'it's just that what Leonard does is not worth doing, deliberately making his class overly hard just to belittle Howard, his treatment of Amy especially on the train with the other train nerd, the whole parking space incident and countless other demonstrations of horrible personality traits mean that, for me at least, he is one of the most obnoxious characters on TV.

 

I have commented in other places that this is mostly the fault of the writers who have chosen to take this path with the character. The defence of 'he doesn't know any better' simply will not wash. You acknowledge yourself that he has shown potential for 'growth' yet he remains stubbornly jealous, rude, domineering, passive aggressive, manipulative, controlling, coercive, sexist and conceited in the extreme and has not improved in those areas. I'm pretty sure Leonard and many others will have explained to him how his behaviour impacts on others yet for a hyper-intelligent guy he shows no desire to assimilate such guidance and apply it.

 

Frankly (yes, it's a TV show) I'm surprised they all haven't told him to get lost as apart from Amy's infatuation he brings nothing to the rest of the gang. Only Leslie Winkel and Kripke have really grasped what a collosal jerk he is

 

your reply has not convinced of why you like him and why anyone else should. As I say, he is the comedy show equivalent of Tony Soprano

 

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yeah nice try but no dice

your reply has not convinced of why you like him and why anyone else should. As I say, he is the comedy show equivalent of Tony Soprano

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I respect your viewpoint and agree with some of your statements. However, I stand behind my reasonings for loving Sheldon.

My goal was not to convince anyone but only to express my opinion (which is neither right nor wrong) and as I have never seen a single episode of The Sopranos, I was not forming a comparison.

I joined this forum to peacefully celebrate my love of this show, Sheldon, and Shamy with others and to express my views, not to stir up debates.

It seems that because our opinions differ, I hit a nerve which was not intended. For that I apologize.

I love reading other people's takes on a character, scene, and subject because their views highlight things I may not have thought of. This is after all fiction, and people don't have to watch the show if they don't like it. It is all supposed to be in fun, as I thought this topic would be.

For my part, I believe I misunderstood the type of commentary desired and the purpose of this thread. I believe it best that I take my leave from it.

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I respect your viewpoint and agree with some of your statements. However, I stand behind my reasonings for loving Sheldon.

My goal was not to convince anyone but only to express my opinion (which is neither right nor wrong) and as I have never seen a single episode of The Sopranos, I was not forming a comparison.

I joined this forum to peacefully celebrate my love of this show, Sheldon, and Shamy with others and to express my views, not to stir up debates.

It seems that because our opinions differ, I hit a nerve which was not intended. For that I apologize.

I love reading other people's takes on a character, scene, and subject because their views highlight things I may not have thought of. This is after all fiction, and people don't have to watch the show if they don't like it. It is all supposed to be in fun, as I thought this topic would be.

For my part, I believe I misunderstood the type of commentary desired and the purpose of this thread. I believe it best that I take my leave from it.

 

I appreciate you taking the time to reply, really I do

 

no, no nerves, I'm just fascinated as to why people like a character with such a horrible personality, so thanks for trying to explain it to me

 

although I'm no wiser lol

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Everyone is entitled to their opinion so good on you for wanting to share yours but I don't see the point of this thread if you're going to dismiss opinions out of hand because you think Sheldon is a jerk.

Personally I think Sheldon CAN be a Jerk but while you list many bad behaviors we can come up with good behaviors too. I'm not going to bother for the sake of a good try but no dice. I doubt anyone will change your mind which is fine because others here do share your opinion. However, if you are serious about listening to the opposite argument maybe don't be so dismissive and I'll come back for a try.

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Well, since you asked for an opinion, here is mine.  Is Sheldon a character we should give our children as a pattern of morality...ehm..no, but I don't really need this in sitcom, there is enough of family sitcoms I'm not fan of which were  working  this way twenty years ago. As in real life, nothing is black or white, Shedon is not good or bad, he's Sheldon.  Leonard already explained why he like Sheldon - he's the person, who understands him on his intellectual level, shares interests with him and is loyal to him. Leonard  took his time to really get to know him and accept him, with all of his advantages and flaws and took him as he is, like he would say, quirks and all - on his free will. Sheldon really doesn't paying  him back on the same degree that would be fair to Leonard, but to say he is nothing but a bad friend, I think is over the top. If I will overlook little things, like advices, tryings to cheer him up and stuff like that, I will name  two biggest  friendly gestures I can recall on a top of my head . Firstly he did saved his life, and did not report, that he almost slept with a spy and told her highly secret informations, or didn't report his "little" incident with rocket fuel, which is something he would have very unpleasant time with national security. And secondly, and that is what I think the biggest gesture was Penny's add to their life. Even for person who have none problem with changes, or distortion of routine I highly doubt one would bare person, who is entering your apartment many times a day without invitation, stealing your wifi, eats your food, and have such a loud coitus with your roommate, you have to use headphones for sleep. Sheldon really couldn't care less about Penny in the beginning, had none advantage from her presence, and still he made a big space and changes for her in their life. I really can't come up with better solution, than Sheldon decided to back off, because he saw Leonard really liked  her and didn't want to spoil it for him,  and it was probably his most selfless friendly  gesture in my opinion. Yes these are rare, but are here. Still the reason I enjoy this character lies somewhere else, than in his loving nature (yeah, kidding).  I just love complicate characters, there is nothing more boring for me than character who is parade of overdone expectable cliches. He is very psychologically colorful, complex, unique character. He  have a lot of unusual traits, he did not choose and as much as his confrontations with reality and world around him is great source of laughs for me, in the same time, it makes me feel empathy for him. After all we can't ask from someone, to give us more, than is capable of, and those little moments, when Sheldon tries and steps out of his comfort zone, I'm trying to remember how hard it is for him and not take this rare moments easily.  While I agree in real life there would not probably be much  people to like him,  it's sitcom character, and that's the perspective we have to look at him with.  Jim's portray is outstanding and all Sheldon's  quirks are greatly balanced by other more "down to earth" characters then I think in big picture, his character is working very good in BBT universe. 

You are baffled about how can people like him, while he is such a "despicable" person.  You may think people have to relate to some degree personally with a character, or approve of his actions to like a character. I don't think so. I think even totally despicable character can have a huge fanclub if is portrayed in interesting way, anti hero's are after all more than favored. Many people just don't use their "glasses" of their own views of the world, while watching TV. They have their own  line, between what's funny/not funny, on screen , and what is/isn't in real life, without having these two views interfering each other. 

Don't forget to paint  "in my opinion" all over it, and believe I'm not trying to influence your opinion in any way. Just my two cents.

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I appreciate you taking the time to reply, really I do

no, no nerves, I'm just fascinated as to why people like a character with such a horrible personality, so thanks for trying to explain it to me

although I'm no wiser lol

Thank you, because I really do believe this an interesting topic and would like to participate further as others join the thread, not to convince anyone to share my viewpoint or change theirs, but just to have a mutual discussion with others.

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Is Sheldon a character we should give our children as a pattern of morality...ehm..no, but I don't really need this in sitcom. As in real life, nothing is black or white, Shedon is not good or bad, he's Sheldon.

I just love complicated characters, there is nothing more boring for me than character who is parade of overdone expectable cliches. He is very psychologically colorful, complex, unique character. He have a lot of unusual traits, he did not choose and as much as his confrontations with reality and world around him is great source of laughs for me, in the same time, it makes me feel empathy for him. After all we can't ask from someone, to give us more, than is capable of, and those little moments, when Sheldon tries and steps out of his comfort zone, I'm trying to remember how hard it is for him and not take this rare moments easily.

You may think people have to relate to some degree personally with a character, or approve of his actions to like a character. I don't think so. I think even totally despicable character can have a huge fanclub if is portrayed in interesting way, anti hero's are after all more than favored.

I agree 100%.

Great examples of this are Dr. House (House M.D) & Loki (THOR).

Much like how we dream about things we would never consider doing in reality, on the screen many gravitate toward complicated and broken characters who are neither good nor bad, but have in essence become a mystery to normal society. Why? In reality, we would avoid these types of people, but fiction gives us a safe place where it is okay to be intrigued. As we are given details about what led up to their current state in life, we feel empathetic and in one form or another can relate. While we may not agree with their personality traits and/or actions, we begin to understand the reasons behind their manifestation. Every step out of their comfort zone or action contrary toward their default mode is considered a small win, and we become excited and vested in their development.

Sheldon did not have anywhere near a normal upbringing. Being a genius kid, he was practically born with an ego that won't quit. He was picked on and beaten up by other kids. His Mom sent him to specialists to have him checked to see if he was mentally stable. He graduated HS at 11, college at 14. Has several degrees. His Mom practically hit him over the head with the Bible, setting strict morals and reinforcing proper southernly behavior in the midst of hypocrisy. His Dad was an alcoholic and died from it. Need I go on....?

Taking all this into consideration, I can understand why Sheldon comes off as a jerk. I think Bernie described it to Howard perfectly. He doesn't do it on purpose. The genius egotisical side of his brain is giving the reasoning side a wedgy. It is the only stable and constant thing he has had in his life. Sheldon honestly believes he is smarter than everyone else and behaves accordingly. Anything less than perfection or being the best means failure to him. To maintain that position, he feels the need to keep others down. As big as he portrays himself on the outside, I believe he feels small on the inside like a photographic negative. It's a coping mechanism taken to the extreme.

Sheldon sees the benefit of having a PHD, being neat and clean, morally chaste, abiding by written agreements, getting a good night's sleep, etc. As such he promotes the ideas, not only to protect himself, but to encourage others to follow suit in what he believes works. He is well intended, but this usually gets overshadowed by his presentation or lack there of (like when he was addressing Alex).

I am not implying that I don't think Sheldon is wrong in being a jerk. I'm just saying I understand most times where his attitude stems from. By his own admission, in his drunken state and confessions, he is not as confident as he lets on. I dare to say he is having a bit of an identity crisis and takes it out on those closest to him.

Sheldon is not exempt from being the victim, either. Len, Raj, and How nearly ruined Sheldon's career after their expedition from the North Pole. To me that is far worse than some snide remarks thrown here and there. Furthermore, they know Sheldon doesn't get sarcasm and the normal aspects of social convention, which makes him appear to be the jerk, when in fact it is his friends that are using his naivety to fuel their own ridule toward him.

I can accept and put up with Sheldon because he does have strengths and does good things that counter-balance his irritating idiosyncrasies. He loans out money without a deadline for return, makes tea to comfort others, doesn't squeal on Leonard, drove Penny to the hospital, and gives good advice, just to name a few.

Furthermore, his friends have grown to love him, so it is easier for me to do so as well. Sheldon is the nucleus of the group. As Amy pointed out, without him, their friendships likely would not exist. Also, the show would fizzle out due to the loss of comedy that stems from Jim's acting ability in his portrayal of Sheldon's adorable mannerisms, facial expressions, etc. I cannot hate a man who adores Koalas and pulls tissues out of his girlfriend's purse to cry in front of his best friend.

Sheldon is not a hopeless cause. Although resistent at times, he has allowed Amy, Len, and Penny to guide him into becoming a better person. Yes, he is and will always be Sheldon, but I find it difficult not to love him.

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What an excellent deliberation jenafan, I couldn't agree more ;)

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Sheldon is a Sheldon.. Unique, consistent, and he knows where he stand..

I can still see his humane side despite the fact that he is soo insensitive and selfish/self-centered in his approach...

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Len, Raj, and How nearly ruined Sheldon's career after their expedition from the North Pole. To me that is far worse than some snide remarks thrown here and there.

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While I agree with most of your post, two things about this. First, Sheldon almost ruined it himself. He was the expedition's leader. It was his job to keep everything running smoothly. He didn't, as it was his immature reaction to not finding what he wanted found that led to the others actions. Also, while Leonard, Raj, and Howard did give him false data, they still had all the original data. Sheldon is the one who went outside normal channels and procedures to make the announcement without going through and checking the data before publishing. That part is all on Sheldon.

Look, none of the characters are angels. Picking on Sheldon alone for being a jerk is silly, as there are multiple instances of all of them being dickensians at various times. Whoever which characters one dislikes, instances of that character being a jerk can easily be found. But every character also has instances of being kind and generous. Which instances you use are going to depend on which actions, and the interpretations of those actions, support your view of a character.

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While I agree with most of your post, two things about this. First, Sheldon almost ruined it himself. He was the expedition's leader. It was his job to keep everything running smoothly. He didn't, as it was his immature reaction to not finding what he wanted found that led to the others actions. Also, while Leonard, Raj, and Howard did give him false data, they still had all the original data. Sheldon is the one who went outside normal channels and procedures to make the announcement without going through and checking the data before publishing. That part is all on Sheldon.

A very good observation you do raise. Sometimes my Sheldon-bias keeps me from seeing how he causes his own demise. It reminded me also of the time they were on the gameshow, and Sheldon's team lost because he wouldn't let go of his pride. That was extremely painful for me to watch. Another was when he came down sick because of his temper-tantrum over his mother wanting to do things with his friends instead of him.

Yes, it is difficult to love him when he acts like this, especially his attitude toward Howard. I, for one, thought Sheldon deserved the spitball Howard shot in mouth. At the same time, given where Howard's mouth has been, I felt sorry for Sheldon worrying about his uvula having an STD.

Sheldon's jerkness and his friends' reactions to it gives the audience the best comedy. I can cope because, inspite of their differences, they really do care about each other. I saw this with Sheldon during Howards lift-off when he grabbed Amy's hand and in Howard trying to help Sheldon cope with his Mom's indiscretion. Just one of many examples.

I just wanted to add that I am glad Amy is calling Sheldon out at times. "I had a donut for breakfast, you jerk!" She sees it, too. This gives me some satisfaction that the issue is being addressed and not just swept under the rug.

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Sheldon is a jerk!

Yep!

Good spot!

That's kind of the point of the show though isn't it?

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I stand by my first assessment of this thread.

As was mentioned in the other "Sheldon" thread, his eccentricities and moments of obnoxious behavior are exaggerated or focused on for comedic purposes.

Real life has nothing to do with any of the antics on this show.

Even so, I don't find it impossible to believe that the others would be friends with him. They are four misfits who have bonded over their weaknesses or quirky behaviors. They make allowances for each other. I think that they understand each other on a sort of instinctive level.

But it's all played up for laughs.

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Well, for the record, Sheldon was able to say something nice to Howard in the latest Season 8 episode "The Comic Book Store Regeneration".

When all the others thought he would say something silly that time they got the news that Howard's mom died, Sheldon actually gave words of comfort to Howard -- something I, too, did not expect.

 

It's true Sheldon can be a handful at times but he has his good side too. And honestly speaking, if Sheldon had a totally different character role in this series, I don't think it would've been as good as it is right now.

It's best to not be bi-polar with judging character personalities. I mean we have friends not because we are "good" and "not acting as jerks". We have friends because they accept us -- whatever or whoever we may be, jerk or not. The same thing goes with Sheldon. His friends are there for him even though he has that kind of personality because they accept him as him.

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Just a couple of examples of nice Sheldon

Sheldon helped Penny out when she needed rent money

He comforted Amy twice when she was upset over the bridesmaid thing

And he and Leonard went to retrieve Penny's TV from her lunatic ex boyfriend, which by the way Penny should of given more warning about what he might do to two skinny nerds!

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Why, given his revolting personality, would anyone remain friends with this complete tool?

I watch several re-runs a week at 6pm on E4 in the UK and have seen every episode so I have followed the development of the character. Why have Raj, Leonard and Howard not pinned the enormous jerk down and beaten him senseless? In the real world, if you treated someone in the manner Sheldon treats Raj in 'The Griffin Equivalency' you would soon find yourself friendless

I know fans love the character 'Sheldon' but really he is a completely despicable person who would be shunned in the real world. I had similar discussions with fans of the sociopath Tony Soprano, one of the most depraved and evil characters ever displayed on TV, and I encouraged them to explain why they liked him.

So, TBBT fans (I am one too by the way), please explain why you like this character? I can tell you if a collosal prick treated me the way Sheldon treats people I would be telling him where yo get off in no uncertain terms. If he then repeated the behaviour I'd hurt him badly

so why do the guys put up with him? he offers absolutely nothing to the people he knows apart from a whole list of flaws

anyone?

I think that you are being too harsh on Sheldon and kinda not looking the bigger picture. Leonard, Howard and Raj all have many flaws-maybe not as much as him, but still, and they can be pretty socially awkward themselves. They actually have more in common with him than they want to admit in my opinion. Would you still be friends with someone who had sexual fantasies with your fiancee and wanted you to die so he could hook up with her?

Yes he does offer some useful things. He saved Leonard's life and borrowed Penny money. Although he was a pretty bad boss to Raj he did give him a job while Raj was even thinking about going back to India and face an uncertain future due to a lack of it. He drove Penny to the hospital and comforted Howard after his mother's death. And helped Leonard stabs up to his bully. Although he often says lots of unnecessary, though correct, things, he often came up with useful ideas, such as taking Howard to Vegas, Schrodinger's cat advice to Penny, helping Leonard with the paper recently. And he has many similar interests with the guys. Physiscs, sci-fi. Don't underestimate that. Also, he does have troubles reading social clues, and his rules are clear result of his OCD, which is a serious thing, so it is kinda ignorant to express such hate towards his character. And Leonard and the guys did chose to respect that rules. They were/are a grown men. Nobody made them do it. And Sheldon definitely never "hurt someone badly" when somebody would disagree with him. I honestly think that people posting such things either have even worse understanding of friendship than Sheldon does or they just like some other character(s) so much that they come to think of Sheldon as a monster because he had some sort of a conflict. And no offense, but your pen name makes it hard to take any of your points seriously. I don't like Emily but I don't have "EmilyIsACreep" as my pen name neither I would have physically hurt her if I could, like you say you would with Sheldon.

I like him because his behavior is often absurd, and therefore hillarious. Such as when guys talk about pudding and he starts going on and on about why the chocolate pudding is the best. And Jim Parson's performance is great. The way he talks, widens his eyes, giggles... beautifully funny. I also find his childlish side to be very cute (such as when he says that the cokies that Amy made him, using Meemaw's receipt, taste just like hugs). I enjoy Shamy relationship and I like him trying to live by social convections at times without understanding the purpose of any of them. Maybe you should pay more attention to his good sides and comic effect that he provided rather than hate him so much. He is in every episode and this is a great show, just relax, have fun, show some compassion and realize that others are often far from perfect too. That's the point. This show isn't supposed to have a villain or anything and Sheldon has many inner problems himself, not to mention without him Leonard would be dead. Think about that.

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He's gotten a lot better in season 8. Should I mention that he saved their lives in the Staircase Implementation?

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This is getting boring... Sheldon saved Leonard's life. So I guess Leonard has to put up with his abuse for the rest of his life because he owes him. Blah, blah, Blah. People seems to forget that Sheldon owes Leonard his life big time too because without him Sheldon will have no friends hence would never have met Amy. Or have a couch to call his spot.

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This is getting boring... Sheldon saved Leonard's life. So I guess Leonard has to put up with his abuse for the rest of his life because he owes him. Blah, blah, Blah. People seems to forget that Sheldon owes Leonard his life big time too because without him Sheldon will have no friends hence would never have met Amy. Or have a couch to call his spot.

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True. Leonard is the best friend Sheldon is ever going to have- he has taken a lot of crap from him.

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This is getting boring... Sheldon saved Leonard's life. So I guess Leonard has to put up with his abuse for the rest of his life because he owes him. Blah, blah, Blah. People seems to forget that Sheldon owes Leonard his life big time too because without him Sheldon will have no friends hence would never have met Amy. Or have a couch to call his spot.

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Uhm, the original poster asked why would anyone want to be friends with Sheldon. Leonard mentioned Sheldon saving his life himself in one episode and said that was the reason he is able to appreciate Sheldon's qualities, see his good side more clearly and therefore stay friends with him. That is an answer to the question right there.

Sure, there are many things that Sheldon owns to Leonard too, but that doesn't diminish Sheldon's actions and the original question was why would anyone be friends with Sheldon and the post seemed to imply that Sheldon has no reddeeming qualities.

Is it getting boring? Of course it is, even to me. Saying one thing over and over again. But since many people seem to forget or ignore such things, it has to be brought up.

And be fair, there are many points being discussed, pointed out etc. over and over again all over this forum, such as the events that people believe prove good or bad sides of certain characters (not just Sheldon), flaws of a current season etc. That is just the way it is. Some things are mentioned often but there will always be somebody who will overlook them and write a post that often comes off very contrived to the ones that have the full picture in mind, leading to that thing being mentioned again. And so on.

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Uhm, the original poster asked why would anyone want to be friends with Sheldon. Leonard mentioned Sheldon saving his life himself in one episode and said that was the reason he is able to appreciate Sheldon's qualities, see his good side more clearly and therefore stay friends with him. That is an answer to the question right there.

Sure, there are many things that Sheldon owns to Leonard too, but that doesn't diminish Sheldon's actions and the original question was why would anyone be friends with Sheldon and the post seemed to imply that Sheldon has no reddeeming qualities.

Is it getting boring? Of course it is, even to me. Saying one thing over and over again. But since many people seem to forget or ignore such things, it has to be brought up.

And be fair, there are many points being discussed, pointed out etc. over and over again all over this forum, such as the events that people believe prove good or bad sides of certain characters (not just Sheldon), flaws of a current season etc. That is just the way it is. Some things are mentioned often but there will always be somebody who will overlook them and write a post that often comes off very contrived to the ones that have the full picture in mind, leading to that thing being mentioned again. And so on.

Good points. I don't even know what's the point of this thread. They are all jerks to each other sometimes. Sheldon maybe more. But he has his good sides and he is trying to be a better friend that should count for something.

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