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Howardette Season 10

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On 4/8/2017 at 2:24 PM, Desdemona said:

I don´t know how much Howard gets, but no matter if Howard is working on the gyroscope or finishes it earlier, Bernie could work part-time if she wants to spend more time with Halley. I´m sure she could manage both things and they could still live with the pay cut.

Speaking of Bernie´s mom. I´m confused about the portray of Bernie´s mom.

On one hand she seemed to control her daughter outlaying the dresses for her and forbidding her to drive any bicycles, on the other hand, Bernie had to take care of her siblings, feeding and changing diapers for them.  (I guess that she was the eldest of them all or one of the elder children?)

While she was telling Howard about her childhood, I had the feeling that she was pretty alone, while she was taking care of her siblings, at least she didn´t mention her mother helping her, or that she was helping her mother because they were so many kids, that her mother was overstrained with the kids. As fas as I remember, she never mentioned that her mother was working, but who knows, maybe that was the reason why she had to take care of her siblings.

 

Yes Bernie's mother worked, though in their home. She ran an illegal daycare in their basement. 

I always assumed Bernie helped with more than just her siblings, but with the daycare kids too. That's why she resented it and disliked kids.

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1 hour ago, Cereal Apist said:

Yes Bernie's mother worked, though in their home. She ran an illegal daycare in their basement. 

I always assumed Bernie helped with more than just her siblings, but with the daycare kids too. That's why she resented it and disliked kids.

That's an interesting point you made.

Are private/home daycares allowed in the US? And how many children can one adult take care of? 

Poor Bernie, surrounded by dozens of children, screaming and running around her, while she tries change diapers and to study for school. 

I might be in the minority, but I wouldn't let my kids in the hands of woman and a kid/teenager, who are taking care of 20 other kids. 

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On 4/10/2017 at 3:57 PM, Desdemona said:

That's an interesting point you made.

Are private/home daycares allowed in the US? And how many children can one adult take care of? 

Poor Bernie, surrounded by dozens of children, screaming and running around her, while she tries change diapers and to study for school. 

I might be in the minority, but I wouldn't let my kids in the hands of woman and a kid/teenager, who are taking care of 20 other kids. 

Yes they're allowed. The requirements for operation vary from state to state but here's a link to the basics.

http://smallbusiness.chron.com/requirements-opening-in-home-day-care-center-4521.html

But since Bernie's mother's was illegal the point is moot. Sadly because child care is so expensive illegal day-cares are rampant.

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2 minutes ago, Cereal Apist said:

Yes they're allowed. The requirements for operation vary from state to state but here's a link to the basics.

http://smallbusiness.chron.com/requirements-opening-in-home-day-care-center-4521.html

But since Bernie's mother's was illegal the point is moot. Sadly because child care is so expensive illegal day-cares are rampant.

Thanks for the link Cereal Apist! 

On  one Hand it is true, that it's a pitty that so many day-cares are so expensive that some people can't affort them. On the other hand there are a lot of costs  day-cares have to face and at least in my town, 100s are endangered and near to be closed due to costs or because they are not "profitable" enough.

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22 minutes ago, Desdemona said:

Thanks for the link Cereal Apist! 

On  one Hand it is true, that it's a pitty that so many day-cares are so expensive that some people can't affort them. On the other hand there are a lot of costs  day-cares have to face and at least in my town, 100s are endangered and near to be closed due to costs or because they are not "profitable" enough.

Yes that's the Catch-22 of regulations. While they definitely protect people they also drive up prices.

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I really liked the Howardette plot in the latest episode! Bernie was funny but also relatable and when she yelled for Halley to look at other it didn't come across as just scary mean Bernadette because it was based on her distress. Howard looking at Halley at the daycare was adorable, mde me proud of a fictional character! haha  He was also hilarious :)

I enjoy them so much this season, they make it a little more bareable to me (as a Lenny shipper most of the second half of this season is hard for me to watch)

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Howardette make watching this show less of a chore. Loved them tonight. 

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After shamy, howardette is my favourite couple of the show and their parents/couple storyline has been one of best things from this season imo. I have always had a thing for Howard because my best and longer laughs from the show have been because of him and his maturity had been remarkable and also believable through the seasons. He still be crazy but more grown at same time, really like it.

I really loved how Bernie handled with her separation from Halley as she was back to work. Actually Bernie's motherhood   process has been very believable and reflects reality, except the pregnancy timeline, the only unforgiven failure from writers about howardette. What I most enjoyed in this episode was the missing feeling for Halley was extended to both parents, being Howard scene at kindergarten one of sweetest ever from tbbt imo.

Looking foward to seeing more from this family enthusiastically!

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Speaking of good things, I had not mentioned two moments I loved in last episode:

* Howard as he had his hand on glass and looked at his daughter tenderly in daycare. My heart totally melted for that guy that grown up so much and now is a respected family man :wub:

* Bernie as she said good bye to her daughter. It started so sweet and ended so Mrs Holowiz 's style, LOL! Howard really found his soulmate, howardette love is so inspiring to watch :)

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Just popping in here to say that that ventriloquist doll dressed in the exact same way Bernie was at her beauty pageant was the funniest thing in the episode! I liked that scene so much, and also the way Howardette teased each other the whole episode, they were really hilarious!

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20 minutes ago, mirs1 said:

Just popping in here to say that that ventriloquist doll dressed in the exact same way Bernie was at her beauty pageant was the funniest thing in the episode! I liked that scene so much, and also the way Howardette teased each other the whole episode, they were really hilarious!

It was my favorite scene of the episode as well! They really have had a great season haven't they? I don't think it's gone under the radar much on here but further afield I don't think it has been recognised enough how great Simon and Melissa have been this season.

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Agree so much with  @mirs1 and @Jonny. Howardette was hilarious last night! Their relationship is one of most solid of the show and it is a bliss to watch Melissa and Simon working together, their chemestry makes this couple imo one of best from  sitcom world. It has been a great pleasure to follow these characters storylines. Hopefully they will have much to tell  us for next seasons!

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Totally agree with the Howardette love here!

What I also loved about this was that their little plot was about them and their weird hobbies/talents and not about the baby! They might be parents now but this was a nice reminder that they're still the same people with their own quirks. The teasing was super funny - especially the creepy doll in the end! And Bernie swooning over Howard was also super cute. <3

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3 hours ago, April said:

Totally agree with the Howardette love here!

What I also loved about this was that their little plot was about them and their weird hobbies/talents and not about the baby! They might be parents now but this was a nice reminder that they're still the same people with their own quirks. The teasing was super funny - especially the creepy doll in the end! And Bernie swooning over Howard was also super cute. <3

Yeah it was a bit refreshing and proves that the writers can still create some fun and interesting storylines for them away from the baby storylines they have had this season.

I would imagine there is a danger as a writer that perhaps if you have been in a mode where you have been writing stories to a theme for the majority of the season and they have to switch focus to something else that it's not always that easy to transition smoothly. But they proved once again this is a really talented group of writers. :)

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Really happy for Melissa signed , as much as I am for Mayim! This show is much better with the contribution of these two ladies! Howard could not loose his Bernie :wub:

So a funny howardette gif for celebrate the good news:

 

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