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When you talk about not having time together, you also have to look into the future. Karl's ranch, his source of income is in San Diego. He doesn't just ride, he, along with his business partner, also breeds and trains horses and he oversees the running of the ranch. That particular job requires him to be in San Diego for long stretches. It may be only a two hour drive, but that is each way. Each day, he'd be looking at a situation where he would be getting to their home north of LA, in time to get to bed. A situation that would be like he wasn't there. Also, I'm not sure if anyone here has really noticed, but since last year, he has been on a rather lengthly streak of doing well in tournaments. He now has three horses that he competes with in the Grand Prix and FEI events. Continuing to do well, and moving into a higher bracket, possibly the Olympics, would require more training time, more time with the horses, more traveling, as most of the big events are on the east coast, in Kentucky and Tennessee, along with Florida, even while continuing to run the ranch. I know we follow Kaley, and we know her career is really going well. But, as an executive producer, she'll be responsible for overseeing all the details of the productions. You add in her acting (we now hear she's shot an appearance on "Curb Your Enthusiasm" in addition to everything else), and she may have to work on those production details, for the next production, the same day she was acting in a current production. As a result of that, she's also not home because of the long hours and traveling. I think the triggering event could have been them sitting down looking for when they would have some time together, and realized that it wasn't going to happen in the near future, or even the far future, unless one or the other gave up their careers. And if neither one of them wanted to give up their careers, there may have been a realization that there was no reason to stay married. As far as kids, if they weren't willing to give up their careers, kids should be out of the question.

Kaley has a new rescued animal at her ranch, this time a baby rooster.

Not just hiatus time. The actors on the show would have to be in the building for ~26-34 hours a week (depending on how long a couple of things took (special costumes, pre-shoots, etc). And only about half that time was them being on set. That would give Kaley a lot of time to do work on other things versus the night and early morning shoots she is having to do these days. There's also a big time difference between being the executive producer and number one on the call sheet, versus being number three on the call sheet, in an ensemble. Add in the two weeks on, one week off schedule and there is a lot of free time for a sitcom actor.

I have to think that having that beautiful new home and everything, then finding yourself alone on your third anniversary had to be a eye opener for Kaley that their marriage was more like two ships passing each other in the night. So, just like Tensor said, they may have just discussed it, decided it wasn’t going to get any better and decided to end it.

Except to talk about how upset Johnny and Simon were, I haven't seen anything. Well, the writers were shipping Priya back to India. Then, in the latter half of the season you had Penny crying about Leonard and Priya, telling Sheldon the story about they guy she broke up with and that was even before the coffession to Raj that she screwed up. It may have been, along with the long distance relationship, a way to keep the from starting to go out again so quickly. I mean it was only five episodes from his breakup with Priya, until she accepted his asking her out. Although, it delayed it by seven episodes, so how effective was it really? A lot of us wish he had said no, but, from his reaction the next morning, I really wonder if by mentioning he destroyed dumb guys for her, he thought she was getting back together with him. I mean if they were back together, Leonard might think it was a normal reaction for her. With the Halloween episode, her kissing him was definitely not, in Leonard's experience at that time, normal behavior for her. All that said, the allusions and demonstrations of a drunk Penny engaging in sex can be a bit creepy now.

Yeah, hard time believing this really means anything, when she still has the pictures from the wedding and the reception, along with multiple pictures of her kissing Karl still up. The last time, all but one or two, of Ryan, were gone before the filing was made public.

They are really throwing anything and everything against the wall in hopes of something sticking. First go-round was infidelity with (tall thin guy from SNL, who had problems with Ariana Grande-can’t think of his name—sheesh!!!) and then hints of running to Johnny G. Now a hate-a-thon where photos were removed from social media (false!) and contentious battles over property (false again!). It is more than apparent to me at least, that we have two people who despite a regard for each other cannot make their relationship work as they thought they could. I for one would rather watch several episodes of TBBT or The Flight Attendant and not pay attention to the circus created by the “entertainment” media…. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

From what i understood they kept their barns and horses separate. She has her Big Bay City stable and he has Pomponio Ranches. I believe Kaley has about nine horses she uses for jumping and I think Karl has many more than that as he breeds them as well

He was always living in fantasy land, he never learnt anything from his failed relationships , he never grew. He brought this onto himself really. it always makes me laugh when i read on social media that it's sad he didn't get his happy ending. he might have got his happy ending if he had changed his attitude towards love and relationships. Howard , Penny and Sheldon ( of all people !!! ) were able to do it. He was an immature obnoxious ass in season 1 and still was in season 12. Sad, really. He really needed therapy I think.

He could never get the ones he dated. He always screwed up every relationship he was in.

That episode cemented my opinion that Raj was an ass. I disliked the Penny/Raj drunken hook-up mostly because it served no purpose really but to learn that Raj was still using that non-event just to brag ( "I tell everybody ") made me mad even more so because we saw Penny and Raj have genuine frienship moments after that hookup and i was thinking it was nice they put that behind them, you know , water under the bridge. Regarding your last sentence , I think it would have weirded him out for a while but he would have moved on . After all, both Penny and Raj were single. My gut tells me he would have resented Raj more than Penny though.

You’re right there, if her divorce from Ryan is any example, neither of them really ever offered much of any information, and that divorce was a little contentious. Anyway, like has been said before, it is her life and I do feel a little bad about my desire to know more about what happened.

I wonder if a “trigger” could be the way her career is taking off and changing. She is not only an actress but now a producer. She’s in charge of her own projects and for the most part that’s where her work is coming from (I know—the movie she just filmed in NYC and the Larry David show appearance as well as the Kevin Hart movie filming in Toronto soon are not Yes Norman productions). I think she is stepping back from her involvement with horses and will be all in on acting/producing. Perhaps Karl wasn’t happy with that and that could also be a reason for her to delay having children. We will probably never know and will just continue to speculate… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And, so, what does that matter, considering Kaley, nor Karl for that matter, have removed the wedding photos and videos that are on the IG accounts. Not to mention, the images of them kissing cuddling and acting silly together that are still on there? Or is this another big deal by "reliable" media?

That might actually be a bargain. There is another house on the same road as Johnny's, going for $50k a month. A couple more in the same area for 40-50k and one about a mile from his, going for 70k a month. All of these have 5-6 bedrooms and 6-7 baths. Oh, and a pool. He was in Tennessee when the lockdown started, in 2020. He can travel now, but I guess he just hasn't seen a need to leave. To be closer to his son, I would guess.

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A request for the return of "miscellaneous jewelry and other personal effects" can very often mean family heirlooms. If Karl had given her jewelry that belonged to the Cook family, it would be natural for him to ask for them back.

That made too much sense and the writers probably didn't think that was funny.

So it was September 24th 2007, 14 years ago this week. TBBT debuted. Leonard first met Penny

That possibly turned dark real quick at the end. For some reason, I can't help think about the turn the season four ending for TBBT had.

I have to disagree about feeling sorry for Raj. He has his chances and he blew them. I guess you can say that karma kind of bit him in the rear a few times.

Even though Raj was an obnoxious ass-hat I kind of felt sorry for him at the end. The whole season 12 was rushed for Raj and Penny & Leonard arcs because they had so many episodes focusing on Shamy quest for the Nobel prize. I thought they could have had Raj still communicating with Anu and then asking her to meet him in Sweden for the Nobel ceremony. The trip from London would not be that long. Though at the end people would speculate whether they remain together it would have given Raj some sort of closure.

I remember reading that Johnny wasn't happy at all with that story . It doesn't surprise me, I can totally see him being very protective of the Penny character. Did Kaley ever say anything about it ? No idea why the writers went there in the first place. In a way I liked that we had some sort of explanation of what happended but the fact that Raj had a clearer recollection of the events makes me uncomfortable. Was he more aware of what was happening? Was he more in control? We'll never know. And as much as I loathe that story , I can't totally be mad at Raj because there was alcohol involved. Truth be told, I was actually more mad at Leonard at the end of season 3 when he slept with a drunk Penny when he was sober. I wish he had said no . Plus it would have been a nice recall to that Halloween episode in the first season when he stopped her because she had too much to drink. Sorry I'm rambling, it's just that these stories of "drunk Penny and sex" don't always sit right with me

Leonard was a very forgiving person but I don't know if his forgiveness would have extended that far. Don't forget Penny admitted that she screwed up in breaking up with Leonard and really missed him. So Raj knew this and still went after Penny and kind of took advantage of her in her intoxicated state. Also, I agree with you that this episode served no purpose. No one liked it, not even the cast themselves. I have heard that they were going to leave the ending that way so people would speculate if they had intercourse or not. But they got so much flack from fans that they wrote the season five premiere with Raj's explanation to Penny. True He only went after his friends girls instead of getting one on his own. A distinct violation of the bro code.

I totally agree. Raj has been a douche from the beginning. He also caused trouble between Howard and Bernadette, All his creepy dreams about Howard being hurt so he could be with Bernadette.

I guess I wouldn’t expect someone to say that who is having an amicable divorce. I have to agree with you in that it sounds a little bitter.

I checked my file tonight and no, it was never referenced, except for the shirts.

I think she was being sarcastic but it does sound like she is kind of bitter.

I have heard her say that before

I had to read your joke at the end there twice to get it.

When Amy mentions being sent to the sin closet, my first reaction was to think her mother sounded like the mother in the Stephan King book/movie Carrie.

I believe she's committed to her career. She still rides her horses, but competitive riding has probably put on hold for the time being. I know she really loves riding her horses, but when she was married to Ryan, she loved playing tennis. That passion was put aside for her career. She probably still plays tennis, but that was put aside as is her competitive riding. Although, I believes she loves riding her horses over playing tennis.

For sure!

I have to agree with everything you say. Looking at it this way their explanation as to the divorce certainly holds true. It just seems to me that Kaley wanted someone with his own career and life so he would not be effected by her fame and success. It is very sad that she got what she wanted in Karl but still could not make it work. I guess they just could not come up with a compromise plan for their future.

I never thought about Karl's busy schedule other than his tournament competitions. So, your thoughts on the triggering events may very well be right. I guess it was easier to be married while she was Penny in TBBT. As most of her time was in LA.

Honestly, I think Kaley was cursed after she bought that kardashian house and moved her and Ryan into it. After being in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, And playing Penny, Kaley should have known curses are real.

From what I gathered Karl was gone in February for about six weeks and then in June for about another five to six weeks. Don't believe they were even together on their anniversary as they only traded IG messages. Then Karl came home around July 4 for a few days and then went back to Michigan. When he returned home for good around July 20 Kaley then prepared to go to NY to film the movie with Pete Davidson. So to say they did not spend alot of time together is an understatement. Guess this may not have been the trigger but it certainly was the catalyst.

Just a thought, but it seems to me that Kaley, and Karl, built that new home and I really feel that Kaley expected it to be their future home, but except for their COVID lockdown, did he really ever live there? It must have been a little weird for Kaley to keep coming home to a home with no husband, I just wonder if that may have happened one too many times.

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Johnny knows how to behave so that no paparazzi finds him, so his movements are difficult to track.

Now You See It, and Now You See It In the Dr Oliver Lorvis (Billy Bob Thornton), Urologist to the Stars episode, both Sheldon and Dr Lorvis make a slip of a blade, and slip of the tongue, concerning Gene Roddenberry. Although the procedure is called a vasectomy, you do not snip the vas deferens. For a successful vasectomy, you must sever the 2 vasa deferentia (or ductus deferentes), the plural forms. For those equivocal men, you can have a shut off valve installed for a change of mind. Talk about thinking with your little head and his two buddies. Truly taking matters into your own hands. No utility company can shut you down without your ultimate control. Severing only one is like only shutting one French door: Exit is still free. As George Carlin said: an iffy birth control method at best...'Baby Maybe'. Hence, Gene Roddenberry could still boldly go.

We'll see if it can live up to the old show. I'm hoping it's just as good. I loved that show!

Just read an article from OK magazine, a tabloid and not really an accurate source, but entertaining at least that Johnny has been calling Kaley for pep talks and advice/support after his break-up with Alaina Meyer. I would guess they truly are closer than they ever were as Kaley described. Suffice it to say the article also stated that Karl is ok with this as he knows the strong bond Kaley and Johnny have. Some other guys might not be so understanding but Karl seems to have a good handle on his life and trusts Kaley completely. Have to respect him for that.

Sheldon's inner child seems to come to the surface when he gets emotionally stressed. This time that was shown with the breakfast, the teddy bear, the problem with the revolving door and his reaction to the earth tremor. No wonder the guy tries to suppress emotion. Too much emotion changes him from a brilliant theoretician into Gilligan.

Another very good episode - the show has really been on a roll since it moved back to Thursdays, Loved the setup of Sheldon being worried about Leonard dieing during his nose surgery, while Leonard tried to reassure Sheldon that it was routine, minor surgery and there was nothing to worry about - there have been some nice Shelnard moments this season, and this episode had lots of them - Sheldon watching Leonard sleep, and then saying he would miss his snoring, meaning that he would miss Leonard if anything happened to him - "You are such a glass is half full kind of guy, I'm going to miss that" - Sheldon figuring out the public swimming pool ruse, and after learning that Leonard is having the surgery, demanding that Amy take him to the hospital, putting his fear of hospitals aside for his best friend - then during the earthquake and the lights go out in the hospital, Sheldon forgot all about his emergency preparedness drills and rushed to see if Leonard was ok, causing him to crash into the glass door in the funniest moment of the episode, and I liked the Leonard and Sheldon bickering on the couch afterwards - "I don't know what hurts more, my nose or my heart." - and finally the matching urns were Priceless "Here lye the ashes of Leonard Hofstadter, he thought he was right but his roommate knew better." and "I'm with stupid" - so sweet that Sheldon wanted to be buried with his best buddy - I know that Amy is right and eventually Sheldon will move on and Leonard and Sheldon will no longer be roommates, but when that day comes it will be a very sad day for me. I also liked the Raj/Howard/Bernadette part - the way Raj has talked about his parent's relationship the last couple years, it is not surprising that they got a divorce, but I miss the video chat scenes between Raj and his parents and hope this doesn't mean that they are gone for good - maybe either his father or mother could move to Pasadena - Howardette saying what they like about each other with devolved into what they didn't like about each other was funny, I too wonder if all the bickering between them this season was leading to trouble for the marriage, but I think whatever plans there might have been, might now change with the death of Carol Ann Susi, speaking of which, it was touching and classy for TBBT to pay tribute to her at the end of the episode, she will be missed.

The picture Penny took of the boys (that's going to be her Christmas card)....I'd love to see it on her refrigerator sometime in future episodes!

I enjoyed the episode a lot. It was a mix of touching sweetness with some comedy. I loved the Sheldon/Leonard plot. This episode further established for me what we learned last year. Leonard is really the only male person in his life that he truly has. And he has to appreciate him. And in Sheldon's way he was doing so by fearing the worst. The two of them on the couch was funny yet adorable. And the feelings between them are mutal. Loved that Leonard has the prom pic on his nightstand. And Penny was so relaxed in the situation about the surgery. Clearly an important element to balance out Sheldon's situation. And I appreciated her "he's all mine" and "I am going to spend the rest of my life with him"... It's nice to hear her vocalize it more. The Raj plot was very relatable. My best friend dealt with her parents splitting up as an adult child and it's still rough not matter how old you are. The cute banter in the car and hospital waiting room between Shamy (old married couple style) just confirms how connected they are and things are gravy post-ILYs. Now onto the Bernadette and Howard plot. I feel like this has been brewing this season slowly to cause tension for them. Let's face it, they are kinda in a rut. And while Lenny and Shamy are both clearly in good places, I think the others will hit some rough patches and get these two to appreciate each other more. Overall a sweet episode I thought. The ending with the tribute was very touching... No vanity card this week, the focus is where it belonged, in saluting amazing person!!

Season 8 Sheldon is a kinder, gentler Sheldon. He has been noticeably less condescending and more caring. Last week he told Amy he loved her, now he's loving Leonard to death. Is this because of the train trip? If so, I know a bunch of people I'd like to send on train trips.