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  1. Completely agree, Koops. I also just wanted to talk about some things I really loved about this episode. I think the biggest thing with the tag, aside from just the rawness between them, is how Sheldon understood and respected Amy's wishes. And this ties into "when did he buy the ring" debate. I love that when he saw she was heading towards a break with him, he didn't try to quickly propose or use the ring as a quick fix. Which makes me think he's had the ring awhile. Now, I know there will be some division on when people think he bought the ring. In this episode, it was thrown in his face by Lenny that the reason they're committed and moving faster than Shamy is that they're engaged. However, something about Sheldon quickly going out to buy a ring in one day just because that's what Lenny are doing seems unlikely for him. Also, when he made fun of the ring Leonard bought in 8.23 also makes me think he's had it awhile. But I don't know! It could really go either way. But back to my original point -- Sheldon's purpose of buying the ring was not to quickly fix the relationship. It wasn't to make her stop being mad at him. It was really because he legitimately wants to marry her. And you can see that in the final scene as he accepted her wishes to take some time. Huge maturity on his part. I was telling the other girls that even though this definitely isn't a break up, it must feel like it to Sheldon as he sat there and wondered what he was going to do. He seriously looked completely stunned and like the wind had been knocked out of him. I don't think for a second he ever thought she was about to take a break. I don't think he imagined she was struggling this much, if at all. Because in his mind he's doing great! So no, the ring is definitely not a quick fix. If he had just bought the ring, then I imagine he'd already been thinking about it awhile. He just doesn't make impulsive decisions like this. But I love that he's putting her first. Respecting her wishes, giving her time, and understanding that this isn't something that will be fixed with something sparkly and expensive. He didn't just go out and buy something pretty to get her on his good side. He just really wants to marry her, people! If that doesn't make you emotional, I don't know what will, haha. Speaking of emotional, Amy was very close to crying during the Skype call. Her voice got shaky as she said "This is so hard because I love you." I think everyone's stomach just dropped. It was definitely the most emotional scene they've had so far. And it was superbly well done by both Mayim and Jim. They nailed it. I love that throughout the episode, even when the focus was on Lenny, you see Sheldon in the background on his computer, presumably trying to reach Amy. He was distracted on his phone while the three of them were eating dinner, and even just in his body language you could tell he was worried she wasn't responding. He was fondly thinking about his aunt and uncle who'd been married so long. Also, he had the biggest, cheesiest smile on his face when Lenny decided to elope in Vegas. He told them how happy he was for them. During the kissing scene, they had their hands on each other the entire time. Even when they stopped kissing and Sheldon asked about the Flash and she asked if that's really what he's thinking about. Only when he went back in and she stopped him did they take their hands off each other.
    24 points
  2. It's so weird because I remember having a similar discussion about "what Sheldon wants" last year right before S8 started. It was in reference to that article where Molaro said that not only would Sheldon start accepting change and intimacy with Amy, he would actually WANT them, too. I feel like this is the big issue in this storyline, and really, the final "roadblock" Shamy has as a couple. As soon as the taping ended, I turned to Maria and said, "sh*t just got real," because that's exactly how it felt. Before this taping I never felt like sex was about to come soon, moving in, marriage, or anything like that. It seemed too far away still, like they're nowhere ready, and they haven't reached that level of love and intimacy yet. And I've never seen such emotion between these two characters. What's so beautiful about the tag scene is that you feel so powerfully how much these two truly love each other. And it's all in the subtext. And what I love about this storyline is that neither of them are really in the wrong. Both sides are understandable. It's hard to see that when Sheldon has made so much progress this year, not only with Amy but with everyone else. His maturity is 100 times what it was last year. He told her he loves her, and that came all on his own. He still needs a little pushing and shoving, sure, but I think he's been written so wonderfully well this season to show us that he's been maturing but at the same time not breaking character. I don't think anyone, including Amy, denies that he's head over heels for her. Just look at the beginning scene of Colonization. But I think Amy's main concern is that, "does he desire me or is he pacifying me?" Is he doing all this stuff merely because he knows it's what I want, or does he want it, too? Everyone knows Sheldon wants it, too, but hasn't fully come to terms with it. And Sheldon made one silly comment as they came up for air while making out, but you can see how it would let the air out of Amy's tires a little bit. A lot of people are having trouble seeing Amy's side, or at least the timing of it, and I get that. But when I was watching the scene, and the lights were kinda dimmed, and it was so passionate (I really did think it was a dream sequence), and her line about her anniversary was so romantic, all of a sudden this dream-like state was broken by Sheldon's "should I start watching the Flash?" And I think that's what it felt like to Amy. And I don't think it was just this one silly comment that set her off. I think it was just months of feeling insecure and feeling these intense emotions, and knowing he loves her and getting so caught up in how serious things are getting, that one tiny thing kind of unravels her. And the best part of it, in my opinion, is that it's not completely rational! I completely understand where she's coming from, and that's because where she's coming from isn't completely justified. I liked Koops's anaology of moving the goal posts for Sheldon. Every time he reaches a milestone, the next goal is moved without any time for him to breathe. I do think Amy appreciates how far he's come this season. We've seen her so happy so many times this season. Interruption, First Pitch, Prom, Christmas episode, Colonization, Fortification. But has been a major discussion, she is not perfect. She is extremely flawed, as is he. Saying things like "all I can get out of you is a distracted makeout session" is not right, but hey, those were her feelings in that moment. I don't think she's clamoring to get him into bed. I think she perfectly understands and respects that he's not ready. I don't think it's about sex at all. I just think she wants to feel closer with him, everyday, more and more, in whatever way that entails. Maybe she's asking too much. But I think if he had just given her a tiny glimpse into where his head is at - and after that tag we know exactly where it is - and had been honest and said that he does want her, and all these things will happen, that she'd be perfectly okay. It's just that they're stuck in a misunderstanding right now. That's all it is. I don't think anyone here seriously thinks Shamy is over or that they're doomed or they just want different things. Sheldon wants everything she does. She just doesn't know that. And he doesn't know she doesn't know that (I mean, he was making out with her, get a clue, Amy JK). But she will find out. He will make sure of it. Okay, that was my attempt to explain some of my thoughts on the finale. I am still freaking out. There are so many little things I love about it. :D And not just the makeout and ring reveal.
    20 points
  3. First of all, this post is brilliant. This is exactly what I think was happening with Amy to be honest which is why I tend to lean towards her reaction not being that much of a stretch or surprise. I know some have questioned the timing on bringing in this storyline, that after a seemingly blissful season for them that it didn't make sense. But from a writing perspective if you wanted to start a believable arc where Sheldon has to prove himself to Amy, fight for her and actually put her first in his thoughts they had to first establish how much he loves her. Only now that he's accepted that he loves her and wants to make her a permanent part of his future will next season be believable. Cause otherwise, you do this before they got this comfortable with each other and in love, Sheldon wouldn't fight for her. He would turn tail, cut his losses and let's face it, end up an insufferable mess. But now, he has that fight in him. He's already decided that he loves her and he's starting to embrace the fact that he wants her physically and wants to marry her. This last hurdle for him is what will make him step up finally and embrace her and the relationship completely. And this finally is what should put Amy's insecurities and hesitations around him disappear. Once you have all that in place, that's when sexual intimacy becomes not only possible but inevitable and believable between these two. I for one can't wait to watch them get there
    13 points
  4. Such a great post, Maddie! Agreed 100%! The whole quote by Molaro about "the things that matter to her, start to matter to him too" also ties into what I was going to say in reply to this: I do think there’s a lot of evidence that Amy find Sheldon to be irreplaceable and I think the one you mention is a great example. 7x01 too, where Bernadette suggests that Amy go flirt with the guys at the bar and she gets outraged. She also wouldn’t have lasted this long with him, if she wanted the construct of a relationship rather than Sheldon himself. But I kind of feel about it the same way I feel about the writers indicating that Sheldon *wants* Amy and is not just going along with her wishes. They have kept both on a thin line between fact and something that can be explained away in other ways. While I do want to believe that’s definitely the case, what I would like to see in S9 is 100% clarity about both of these issues, and I think that the scenario in this finale could be a good stepping stone for that. I think that there’s different ways this could play out from here onwards, but I think there is only one scenario that would make it unambiguously clear that Sheldon WANTS to move forward with Amy and experience all the things she wants to experience and that Amy is not with Sheldon just to have it all in *any* relationship but because she wants it all with Sheldon and Sheldon alone. And that is one where Amy takes intimacy/romantic expectations off the table, but decides to stay with him. Now, I know people will say “That is horrible, why should Amy give up what she desires for Sheldon?”. And I don’t disagree with that (unless we get into a discussion about “What are Amy’s priorities in life”, but that’s another topic). But the point to me, from a writing POV, is that if you have Amy make any other decision, given that we know these two *will* get back together, when they do get back together it would come across too much as if Sheldon only gave in to what she wanted in order to keep her/win her back and that Amy is only with him because he did eventually give in. Examples: 1) Amy says she can’t do it anymore: she wants romance, sweet nothings, sex, marriage, babies, the whole nine yards and Sheldon obviously can’t give that to her so she’s out. Sheldon tells her he does want all those things. Amy stays. Did Amy stay because of Sheldon or because he promised all these things? Did Sheldon promise because he wants them or just to keep her? 2) Amy breaks up with him and dates someone else for a while before finally running back to Sheldon, who gives her romance, sweet nothings, sex, marriage, the whole nine yards. Did Amy run back to Sheldon because she couldn’t be without him anymore or because Sheldon is finally giving her what she wants? Had he not, would she have come back? And is Sheldon giving her all just to get her back? 3) Amy does not break up with him, but demands that he makes promises that he will try his best to speed up. Pretty harsh, in my opinion, and, to refer back to Steve’s interview, he’s already running as fast as he can. If she puts even more pressure on him and he lives in constant fear that she might leave him if he doesn’t keep up, he’s going to snap and she’s going to come across as a horrible character. There are some intermediate scenarios that could work (I would laugh my butt off at Amy trying to date and acting exactly like Sheldon with her new date and being completely turned off in every possible way), but that’s why I believe that the only feasible route is for Amy to stick by him, realizing she’s happy without all that stuff that she *thinks* Sheldon can’t give her, but Sheldon proves her wrong. Maybe he agrees at first and then starts going bonkers because he misses kissing her and touching her and desires her so badly. Because he has that ring in his drawer and he knows he wants to marry her. Because he had made his mind up already and she is just going off assumptions about what he wants, rather that the truth. Because to me that’s what the finale was all about: Sheldon and Amy reading each other’s signals wrong. He wants her, but he’s just HORRIBLE at expressing it. And she doesn’t want him to put-up or shut-up, but just wants to know he’s into this as much as she is. And I really think it’s only by Amy taking that intimacy/romance off the table that you can write a story where Sheldon is convincingly and willingly proactive and not because he’s pushed into being proactive by force or circumstances or Amy herself. Where Sheldon has the option not to do all these things, but he wants to do them anyway. Because HE wants to put it all back on the table. And where Amy shows that Sheldon is “it” for her, no matter what. And it would be incredibly sweet to see them rediscover their feelings and intimacy in a situation where there’s no pressure, expectations or a clock ticking anymore. I think it would actually snowball much faster without all that tension and pressure. I know many will disagree, and who knows where the writers will take this, but that's where my speculation has arrived at, at the moment. ON ANOTHER NOTE: Did you guys see that at a Q&A last night, Jim said that he would like Shamy to get married? It’s not just us obsessing over that ring it appears
    10 points
  5. I think that it will be "series changing" because it might lead to a shift in the dynamic between the two. Having a Sheldon who actively wants to move forward in his relationship and is openly sexual will change things quite a bit. But I also think Steve is exaggerating a little to create hype. I hardly think Sheldon will turn into a totally different character, they're not going to sell out their cash cow. btw, Kazzie and Maddie, these tidbits are killing me today
    9 points
  6. Dudes.. My 2 worlds! bahaha! I am legit having a conversation about BBT and Shamy with British Airways over Twitter.. This is actually happening... HAHA Oh I need to go to bed.... 1,800 post <3 LOVE THIS FORUM. OK BED.
    9 points
  7. Sheldon should re-build the fort and invite Amy round.. AND THEN PROPOSE TO HER IN THE FORT. I need a moment.
    9 points
  8. My favorite Check Lorre Vanity Card is from Kaley's first episode back after breaking her leg...... CHUCK LORRE PRODUCTIONS, #309 Following Kaley Cuoco's horseback riding injury, I've instituted new rules governing acceptable leisure activities for the cast of The Big Bang Theory. 1. No friggin' horses. This includes those found on merry-go-rounds and in front of supermarkets. 2. The only motorcycle you can get on is the one you're accidentally crushing in your big-ass, air-bagged SUV. 3. All cast member motor vehicles must adhere to U.S. Army guidelines for attacking Kandahar. (Galecki's Tesla is a terrifically fuel efficient vehicle but is essentially a hundred thousand dollar go-cart. From now on it is only to be used for backing down his driveway and retrieving mail.) 4. The only permissible boating activity at Comic-Con is in your hotel room bathtub. 5. Alcohol should only be ingested at home, and while seated in a big comfy chair. Wild and carefree dancing that celebrates your incredible and well-deserved success is only allowed on New Year's Eve, and only with a sober celebrity parasitic flunky to lean on. 6. And finally, sexual acts must be performed while horizontal. Certain high-risk Kama Sutra positions might be allowed, but only after consultation with Chuck Lorre. Like with dancing, a spotter might be required. 1st Aired: 4 November 2010
    8 points
  9. i actually like this but i ran out of likes so i'm just gonna say it out loud. LOL. wow, it's been a while since i've last ran out of likes on this site. i'm just so happy that since the last taping, i get to wake up everyday knowing that (1) my babies made out (2) they really made out (3) they really really made out (4) GODDAMIT THEY MADE OUT! and as if that wasn't enough, Sheldon pulls out a box with an engagement ring in it. HE WANTS TO MARRY HER!!! he wants to have her babies, people!!! they've come so far yet they still have a long way to go. if Amy wanting break is the only way for Sheldon to finally wake up and realize how much Amy means to him, then by all means, take all the time you need, girl. we want Sheldon to give himself to this relationship - just like the psychic said. it's high time he does his part, take the wheel and drive this relationship forward. and let me just say, for me, Amy is the most kind, most generous, most patient, most selfless person i have ever known (next to my father ). she has soooo much love to give, it's literally pouring. if only Sheldon would let his guard down and let her in. poor guy has no idea what he's missing. that's what i hope for him to realize in season 9. Amy deserves to be loved by Sheldon the way she loves him, and I know that Sheldon is capable of doing that and so much more. He just has to learn how to let it out and just surrender to her.
    8 points
  10. If he starts collecting anything, it's gonna be turtles.... #bringbackgiuseppe
    8 points
  11. Imagine all the slow motion gifs and video clips we'll be getting of that Shamy make out scene.
    8 points
  12. I've watched the Graduation episode a few more times and I can't get over how funny it is and how amazingly well written it is. Everyone got funny lines and of course my favorite parts are the Lenny parts and as a few other Lenny fans have said it may be my new favorite episode. Penny and Leonard are at their cutest, sexiest most adorable best. But, for me, this is Leonard's episode and truly showcases Johnny's talent. It feels like the writers are saying, " We're sorry we neglected you for so long. This one is yours, Baby. Have at it." And he did. OMG, the lines and the delivery. "... junk in a garlic press." "Greetings distinguished cheerleaders!" "Sex last night. Pancakes this morning.Am I dying?" "SHORT AND SEXY. THAT'S MY WHEELHOUSE." My personal favorite! Not some boring sensible bran muffin. The Strawberry PopTart he wants to be for his Penny. "This is very freeing!" wiggle, wiggle. "A. Surprised you know that." And b. I wanted to be a sexy graduate FOR YOU". "Done and done." leg kick. So, pretty much, every time he opened his mouth! And the body language and facial expressions accompanying the words. Silly, funny, sassy, loving, excited. The timing, perfect. And, maybe best of all for me, his speech was wonderful. I got a little anxious when he started, thinking, "Please, Leonard, don't go all winy and sad and pathetic on us" (as he's done in more than one of his cringe-worthy speeches). He was honest, sincere, moving and funny, a fine man who survived tough times, and came out successful, accomplished, compassionate and happy. Yes, I'm gushing, but imo, this episode is just so gush worthy!
    7 points
  13. Yep! He even says "I haven't heard from Amy in 24 hours" Its so precious.
    7 points
  14. Yeh.. In the Lenny / Sheldon scenes.. Sheldon is constantly on his computer or checking his phone.. hoping to hear from Amy.
    7 points
  15. This is so interesting! Again, I have completely the opposite take on the same events. I facepalmed at Leonard's anxious dismissal of Penny's very valid concerns (I think they can be resolved, but Penny deserved for Leonard to take her worries seriously) with a romantic line. However sweet the line was, and I am sure sincerely meant, I couldn't help thinking 'That................. is not helpful.' And when Amy sighed 'I wish that you would say something like that to me', I turned to her and said 'That is because you are immature. Of course you're a romantic and you have a great big gooey centre and we love you for it. But can't you hear that Leonard's words are (at least in part) born of a desire to avoid a discussion?' and I cheered when Sheldon said '8.2. Trust me, you're happy.' Now, of course you might say that Sheldon too was dismissing his partner's concerns. But I thought that that exchange was Sheldon partly reminding Amy that there's no unique model for successful relationships. She's the kind of girl who values Relationship Agreements, because they're 'more than hot. They're binding.' They're both the kind of people who value intellect (however much Amy might have a crush on Penny, she's actually pretty snarky about her lack of book-smarts). So, to me, that was Sheldon saying 'No, I will not serenade you with romance. But also, I will not use it to talk down to you. I will-for the most part- treat you as much more of an equal than I'm capable of treating anyone else. Look at us. Look at what we have- a relationship founded on intellectual intimacy and companionship. Is the hearts-and-flowers stuff really what you want?' And I cheered, because one of my greatest sorrows is that the writers implicitly rubber-stamp Amy's frequent selfishness and immaturity. I love her to bits- I actually think she and Sheldon are the best-written characters on the show- but I get irritated that she isn't called on things like her mad rush to move in with Sheldon even though they are clearly not ready. I liked that the show acknowledged that Amy was a person, not just a put-upon sitcom girlfriend waiting for her manchild to grow up. I liked that the show acknowledged that her character too has space to grow and reflect. And I liked that the show seemed to implicitly acknowledge that Sheldon, as exasperating as he is, sometimes has a better handle on what relationships entail than does Amy.
    7 points
  16. 6 points
  17. Actual Gif of us going into the taping: Actual gifs of us at the taping.. These best describes me:
    6 points
  18. True words. SPTF. Everything of the episode was simply great. But Lenny was out of this world love them. The teasing, loving and the chemistry was so evident. Watched it 4 times already (omg did I just admit that) and my fav. Leonard doing the catwalk with the top half of the suit on just cracked me up. . Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk
    5 points
  19. For the invisible kids - "While you're spending all this time on your own building computers or practising your cello, what your really doing is BECOMING INTERESTING. And when people finally do notice you, they're gonna find someone A LOT COOLER than they thought. And for those of you who were popular in high school, it's over. Sorry." Kudos, Dr Hofstadter, kudos. Seriously important message to come out of a sitcom. Can't get it out of my head. Really hit me big time as both a former "invisible kid" and now an influential teacher. Popularity is fleeting. Talent and intelligence is forever. Embrace your gifts despite what others think.
    5 points
  20. Koops and Maddie are excellent at explaining stuff
    5 points
  21. I'm getting kind of uncomfortable being on the 666 page....can we move on quickly please... LOL . Any post on this page is CURSED!!!
    5 points
  22. i just wanted to add my little thought to this conversation i know that some people are thinking amy over-reacted to the flash comment or that its come out of nowhere in a pretty happy season but you need to look at it from amy's perspective. Sure the mars incident would've been more of a reason to need a break but regardless, it still happened and although amy may have forgiven him soon after, she will always remember the fact that he did that in the first place. I assume she was willing to forgive him because she knows he learns from mistakes (breaking up with her led to amy dating stuart which led to sheldon asking her out when he realised the mistake he made of letting her go for example), So she would've thought "well know he knows how upset leaving me out of decisions like that makes me, he probably won't do it again in the future". And she soldiers on in hopes he has realised his mistake and will not reoccur. This is her strong suit, she hides her emotions and soldiers on in hopes that sheldon will come to his own realisations of what is right/wrong, works/doesn't work in their relationship. Again in the fort episode, she settles with sheldon's compromise for a mild sleepover perhaps in hopes that again he will realize himself that 'mild' is not enough anymore, he wants more. Yet, amy hides her true emotions but so does sheldon. He is happy to admit to everyone that "he has urges" and "he's not ruled it out" etc etc but when it comes to being with amy, he cowers away, he doesn't open up to her fully even though he is willing to admit it to everyone else. So although these milestones have been phenomenal, it really has masked the underlying issue that is that sheldon has not yet put amy before himself or opened up his heart and soul to her completely and that amy continues to hide her true feelings in hope that things will change with experience and realisation. These events she is able to forgive or put up with have built up and have been building up for the last couple of seasons but as i mentioned, she soldiers on regardless because he loves sheldon and always hopes for the best. So come their 5th year anniversary, a day I'm assuming both amy and sheldon want to be romantic and here they are having their first real heated make out sesh and no doubt amy is getting excited (finally sheldon is taking control, he's really into this, he must really love me etc etc), and as amy does, she's probably hoping sheldon has learnt from the past that these moments are special and perhaps today that he's finally giving in to his feelings. And here's the big moment, a break from the kiss, they stare into each others eyes, the tension is building and amy contributes to the mood with "i can't believe its been 5 years since we first met". Sheldon continues to stare enticingly back at her and mutters in return, "do you think i should start watching the flash". Now to any other couple, yea that alone would be hella annoying but shamy is no ordinary couple. Yes sheldon's mind is constantly thinking but here's amy, so enveloped in the mood, hoping the past roadblocks have lead to this amazing anniversary but no, she's just gotten a completely unromantic, random question and not even a returned sentiment about their anniversary. Yes the comment may have been small to an ordinary couple but to amy, it has just hit her right in the face again that sheldon still hasn't learnt, he still hasn't realised what committing to her means. And no doubt in that very moment, amy probably envisioned their future and wondered whether, for example, the first time they have sex she'll be over the moon and say "sheldon that was incredible, i love you" to which he will respond "do you think i should order chinese for dinner". so what I've probably done a really shitty job of saying is that although the comment may have seemed kinda small or that amy may have over-reacted given their happy season, i say it wasn't. It was a build up of suppressed feelings and constant hopes that sheldon will learn from mistakes that has finally pushed her over the edge. And from sheldon's perspective, thank god. To think he was ready to propose to amy even though he still hasn't given himself 100% to her, would've led to upset eventually because a moment like this make out may have happened again. hell he may have even gotten distracted proposing to her like "amy farrah fowler, will you..actually do you know where the proposal originated". So now he will see, moments like these can't happen again, he will finally see that there really is no way around avoiding feelings and constantly hiding, surpassing, manipulating them. This will be the final push for him to learn that he needs to stop thinking of himself over amy. SHELDON COOPER YOU LOVE AND WANT TO MARRY AMY FARRAH FOWLER, YOU NEED TO GIVE YOUR HEART AND SOUL TO THIS WOMAN GOD DAMN haha omg this is longest thing I've ever posted, my apologies haha
    5 points
  23. Jim participated in an alumni event at The University of San Diego today, this was in advance of the awards ceremony tomorrow night. Hopefully he is taking advantage of his time in San Diego to have a tiny vacation. ✨Victoria ‏@victoriaaa_s 2m2 minutes ago Super cool seeing Jim Parsons today talking about his time at USD and his life now.
    5 points
  24. Position wise, they actually looked almost identical to when Lenny were kissing on the couch in Colonization Application, right before Leonard told her about the sex paint lol. The only difference is Sheldon's hand is further up on her thigh. And he's taller, of course. But the actual kissing (and keep in mind we only saw it once and all our brains were short-circuiting) was long and continuous with lots of head movement and lip movement. I can't say whether there were breaks where their mouths would part and go back in, I'm blanking on what their actual lips were doing! But there was definitely movement. When Michy said this is NOTHING like the two previous kisses and that they've graduated, she wasn't kidding. This isn't just lips pressed together, everyone. They were both really into it. And it might be the hottest thing I've ever seen.
    5 points
  25. Yeah. They did do the tag in one take. We honestly didn't know how, haha. I suppose it's possible that it was already taped and they just did it again for the audience. But I'm not sure. The Lenny driving scene was definitely redone for us. But all the emotions were definitely on point, so maybe they felt it wouldn't ever be better than that, so a second take wasn't needed? The screaming after the Gollum line was long, though. Like 15 seconds. But meanwhile he was opening the drawer and opening the ring box, so I think it all flowed naturally.
    4 points
  26. yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i was just going to say the same thing!!!!!!!!!!!! it was sooooo much better watching it on a 40 inch screen than on my laptop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he looooves her!!!!!!!!!!! he WILL fight for his woman!!!!!!!!!!!! and then HE'S GOING TO ROCK HER WORLD ON HIS SPOT... HIS BED... HER BED.... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and marry her!!!!
    4 points
  27. Watched the episode it was alright. Not... it was freaking awesome. Lenny were on fire
    4 points
  28. Fuck this.. which one of you mofo's has a Time Machine and or Tardis? Im going back to taping day to watch this face sucking live again.
    3 points
  29. Omo that is so similar to how they looked. (Except I couldn't see his hand on her thigh thanks to a camera) but her hands and the way they were kissing is on point. Hoo. I need to see this again now
    3 points
  30. 3 points
  31. LOL Maddie, I'm sorry but one of my biggest pet-peeves would be someone getting a Nobel on the show, unless it's in a flashforward. It just does not happen to people in their 30s and it would be absurd if it did for theoretical physics in particular Another, probably unpopular opinion, is that I'm kind of bored with the paper thing. And I admit it's mostly out of annoyance that I really want to see Sheldon work with Amy, rather than with Leonard. Not because of any romantic connotation at all, but purely from a stubborn female feminist/scientist perspective. I am kind of bored with the women being relegated to having an impact only on the romantic lives of the guys. I think it would be awesome to have Amy make an impact in Sheldon's professional life (or viceversa), and they're really the only couple that could do it on the show, since obviously Penny and Leonard can't work together (for obvious reasons!) and Howard and Bernadette can't either because their fields don't overlap at all in any way (unless I guess they start building chemical weapons! but I don't think this is the show for that). Also because it mirrors so well the Curies, who we know Shamy admire so much, and this year Nobel's prize in Physiology was a married couple too, so it's hot science topic! I was hoping there would be a sign because of Amy collaborating with Kripke but nothing yet. That's honestly the top of my wish list for the show, I want that more than anything at this point! #UnusualDemands
    3 points
  32. You know, I actually don’t see the proposal dragged out very long. And I don’t think there will be any hesitation on Amy’s part when he asks (I also really hope she doesn’t find out about the ring before he actually pops the question – I want her to be swept off her feet!). I have absolutely no idea what will happen. They could literally go in a million different directions, but for prediction’s sake I think they will reconcile early season 9, and the proposal will take place sometime midway through – let’s say, February sweeps? But I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it happened as early as November sweeps. And I’m gonna go ahead a predict sex for May. There’s a lot of questions that have been swarming through my mind. Will Sheldon tell anyone about the ring? Will anyone find it? What on earth would a Sheldon Cooper proposal even be like? I think it’s important, however, that they resolve their issues before an engagement happens. I think the only way through this is an honest discussion between them. I feel like he will give her the space she requested, but at some point, most likely very soon haha, they won’t be able to stand it anymore and have to see each other. I’m expecting some kind of confession on Sheldon’s part that he desires her or at least give her insight into where his head and heart is. I really think that’s all she needs. There’s another thing I wanted to mention, though. Maria and I were talking about what the psychic said to Sheldon last year. “Personally and professionally, once you commit to her everything will fall into place.” I know there was discussion on here on whether the writers would follow through with what the psychic said. And there were people who said that the writers did follow through with the ILY. However, with this paper Shelnard have written seeming to be getting a lot of attention and accolades, what if they’re lining this up to where once Shamy get engaged, Shelnard get a Nobel? Might be far-fetched, but I thought it was worth mentioning, haha. Yes! The only difference is that his hand stayed on her thigh the whole time. And his hand wasn't really on top of her thigh, more like on the outside of it. I also feel like that's very similar to what the actual kissing looked like, as well. Or maybe my memory is deceiving me, haha. But it wasn't like they were sticking their tongues down each others throat. It was very much like Joey and Rachel are kissing here, simple and sweet but so so hot. Just trust me, it's nothing like Shamy have ever kissed before.
    3 points
  33. Actually, the test is designed to predict the longevity of a relationship based on behavior, on things such as closeness, compatibility, sharing interests, sharing important and personal information, spending time together, valuing the partner's input and opinion on your own opinion and so on. The point precisely is that if you get a high score on that test, technically, the relationship is predicted to last longer. Which is why it doesn't make much sense to say "You might be getting a high score now, but what you want might change" in the context of this test. The reason why the test was in the episode was to highlight the difference between the two couples in a very clever way. Lenny are the feely couple, based on infatuation and attraction and passion, whereas Shamy are the brain-couple, based on common interests, similarity and intellectual compatibility. Shamy likely score higher on that test, therefore indicating a longer potential for longevity, because the test does not really give a big weight on feelings that are rather "transient" like passion and attraction. As much as we want to think of relationships as something fundamentally dependent on romance and passion, those two things are also the things that burn brighter and faster, and once that candle goes out, if there's nothing left, the prognosis for the life span of a relationship is not good. And that was Penny's concern, and I thought she had very valid concerns and Leonard's statement did really nothing, imo, to address her concerns. All it says was "I have no answer to that question, but I still want to do it with you." Now, some might find it romantic and moving, but to me it sounded really empty and cheesy. And that's probably why I don't ship Lenny. And I was totally on board with Sheldon's "Trust me, you're happy". Because Shamy already have a lot going for them to predict long-term stability and satisfaction, other than transient feelings. And I also don't think it would have been genuine for him to turn around and suddenly sprout out a cheesy line on the spot just to keep up with Leonard's. It would have made no sense in that context. Shouldn't stuff like that be spontaneous and from the heart? Otherwise, what's the point? I also think it's unfair to say Sheldon never says deep, moving things to Amy. His pragmatic, thoughtful declaration of love in Prom is the biggest example to me. He was like "I love you. I analyzed my feeling long and hard, and I've come to the conclusion that there's no other explanation for how I feel about you.". That, to me trumps Leonard's sweet nothings 100 times. And it was enough to give Amy a panic attack I honestly don't think there's that many "red flags" this season to forecast such a dramatic finale. Because I think the red flags were far far less than in previous seasons and the happy flags were far far far more numerous. We also have to keep in mind that the writers have "milestones" in mind for the characters, but don't really know how these milestones will look like or when they will happen until they write them, and they don't plan that far ahead. I seriously doubt that that one tiny line in an episode where Shamy was otherwise on cloud 9 that happened at the very beginning of a season was foreshadowing for the finale that at the time was not even in the back of their minds. In fact, at the time they hadn't even thought about Prom and they didn't even know they were going to put the ILY into Prom until they were in the process of writing it and it came out naturally. I think the writers are trying to make some kind of point/change gears here right now and they simply thought "what's the best way to do it to get the biggest impact?". Like in Vday last year, where first they had Sheldon kiss Amy out of happiness on the train, instead of anger, they obviously thought that a dramatic finale would drive whatever point they are trying to make home better than a happy finale. And I totally agree with them on the train kiss. Without the anger you don't get that clear, obvious realization that Sheldon melts into the kiss and is loving it, in the same way you would have had from a happy/euphoric kiss. I think maybe here it's the same thing. But it does stick out a bit more than it would have in previous seasons, IMO.
    3 points
  34. So I was watching Friends earlier tonight and it was the episode where Joey and Rachel are trying to make out on the couch. I was wonder, Maddie, Kazzie or anyone else who went to the taping this is kind of how Shamy were positioned on the couch. (without all the slapping of course ) Oh, I agree, but i think it was something that he wanted to say to her and it was honest. Sheldon actually does come through for her when she just sits back and lets him do it. Whenever she takes the pressure off, Sheldon rises to the occassion.
    3 points
  35. Honestly I will love whatever happens because I love everything, but in a basic sense this is how it breaks down for me. Think: Something to do with moving in together. Sheldon says "Amy will you move in with me?" Want: A Shamy make out. In other words, someones tongue needs to go somewhere. Need: Sheldon hugs Amy. (This is my obsession and will remain my obsession until it happens). Dream/Fantasy/Best Season Finale Ever: Sheldon asks Amy to move in with him. He is so excited that she says yes that he walks towards her gives her a hug. After a long beautiful hug, Amy kisses him and they start making out.
    3 points
  36. This is such a wonderful analysis Maddie. I really can't wait to see it.
    3 points
  37. H e l p That scene in isolation is one of my favs and now this seems like its going to better it....this ship
    3 points
  38. That makes it sound like he's never gone longer than 24 hours without communicating with her since he's met her. Does that mean he stayed in contact with her while he was on his train trip last summer?
    3 points
  39. Finally seen the episode and its much much funnier than the previous weeks one, I like to watch comedy in a comedy show
    3 points
  40. 200 more replies and we will beat last seasons shamy spoiler thread
    3 points
  41. A topic detour, but in case you were wondering, Raj's drone cost at least $1400. Am sitting here putting together my shopping list for BJs and clipping coupons and they have it advertised. No wonder his dad was pissed.
    3 points
  42. Spurs just buried the Clippers to the ground! If Spurs will do the same to the Rockets I want to know how Jim would react. These bits are sweet: If he could be any other character on TBBT, he would be Penny If Sheldon had ‘his spot’ at USD, it would be in the Shiley Center for Science and Technology (SCST) There is absolutely no ad-libbing on TBBT. The reason for this being his character had such specific interests that could not be ad-libbed even if he wanted to. He would like to see Amy and Sheldon get married, but he doesn’t know for sure what will happen (I would love a spinoff of this - Shamy dealing about married life in their own geeky ways) If heaven is real, he would like to hear God say “You did a great impression of me on Broadway” (I can't quite identify is he's an atheist or agnostic.) His biggest influence is his mother (awwww ☺️) (He strikes me as somewhat a Mama's boy but who cares. It's sweet!)
    3 points
  43. I mean how is this even allowed?? The thread opener is extremely offensive and disrespectful.. BBT is not a show thats made to get your dick up... Seriously
    3 points
  44. Coverage and links to clips of Jim's Q&A At University of San Diego today.
    3 points
  45. Oh yes. I totally think that too. It's not the fact that he lost focus on kissing, because I don't think he did; he was going in for more. I think it was because she was expecting something more... personal and emotional to her "It's been 5 years since we've met", like you said. And I think sometimes when Sheldon is put "on the spot" about having to say something emotional, he kind of fumbles and just makes a mess. He is much better at expressing his feelings when they just come out of him spontaneously, than when he has to respond. And I think this was the case in this instance. But I get, again, that this upset her. Thanks for this lovely post. We are totally on the same wavelength here, and there's nothing more satisfying than finding common ground after a "disagreement" Yes, I was saying "you", general you, not you specifically, but thanks for addressing the question. I feel exactly the same as you do, but I guess I found so so so much satisfaction this season in them as a couple, I thought that they were pretty much back to S4/5 levels of compatibility, with added physical and emotional connection. So, for me, the finale came a bit out of nowhere and I might have been in a much happier place, shipping wise, than you are. I was a strong supporter of the "break" idea in the S8 premiere (I even started a fic about it, that I then struggled to continue because canon was so good), and even at the end of S6. But I felt that, like you say, you don't necessarily need drama and tension to grow a couple and that Shamy were growing so much closer and stronger this season that I would have preferred a more natural, and calmer progression in these circumstances than what we ended up getting. I just feel like this twist came at the wrong time for me. Unfortunately, I guess the writers like to pull the drama out of the hat whenever it suits them, so I will have to deal with it. I just want them to handle it in a non-conventional way, and be careful with it, because I think there's a lot of subtleties that could really ruin the couple for me, and I won't go into the details now. But, mainly, I ship Shamy because, to quote TXF, they're each other's "one in six billion". They have a connection that they never found with anyone else in their entire lives. To me, that mental connection is the basis of their relationship and is something that is inherent to who AMY is to Sheldon and to who SHELDON is to Amy. And to me, that connection needs to be the one thing they can't do without. That's the feeling I got about them from day one. And by "connection" I don't mean love. I know people say "love sometimes is not enough" and I agree with that. But here I'm talking about something deeper than that. Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but I do think they have something even deeper than love and something way more satisfying than just love. And I do think that, in Sheldon's mind, Amy is utterly irreplaceable. If she were to leave him for good, that would be it for him. He would never contemplate turning his life upside down, and reconsider all his beliefs for anyone else. And that's what I'm getting at: people say that they want to see Sheldon want Amy as much as she wants him, and I'm 100% on board with that. But I also want to see that Sheldon is as irreplaceable to Amy as she is to him. And I do often worry that, because of the emphasis on her needs for intimacy and romance, the writers might not think he is. The one thing I want the most from S9 is to see that Sheldon *wants* Amy and is not just going along for the ride, and that Amy truly sees Sheldon as "her only chance at true love" (or rather, "connection"), and could never bear to let him go.
    3 points
  46. Thank you so much Nusspot and Mothandfire for your kind comments about my posts @Koops, I read your post repyling to mine and I understand what you are saying, I feel what you wrote is basically what I think, just much better written and from a point of view that moves away from my current cynical attitude However, this paragraph in particular drew my attention: I'm not sure if here you are speaking in a general sense or if you are asking me this directly. If you remember me (I absolutely wouldn't blame you if you don't, since from a good time ago, I practically never post, and I'm even a deficient lurker at the forum) you'll know that I don't believe any of the stuff you mentioned before, yet, at the same time, as a shipper I'm still quite unsatisfied with what I'm seeing in the show right now. That's why the bolded part is an excellent question for me at this moment. Why do I ship them? Leaving aside the fact that I'd be totally entitled to ship them even if they were for real the terrible couple you described, since you would agree with me there's nothing wrong (albeit, a bit weird) with shipping a disfunctional couple Well, I ship them because I can't stop loving them, I fell for them since their first encounter, they were totally perfect back then, perfectly in tune, their relationship was fun, balanced and they were equals for real. I also knew that if they were going to develop their relationship, things were going to stop being ideal and there will be a lot of ups and downs, and things will get ugly more than once, but I also know i'll be with them 'till the end. Now, that doesn't mean I will cheer for everything that happens in the show between and around them and that doesn't mean I'm happy right now with the treatment the writers are giving to them as a couple and as individual characters. Of course I don't think Sheldon is a jerk, but his words and attitudes makes him look like one several times, and I don't think Amy is mean and manipulative, but her actions could be controversial, and I don't think the Shamy dynamic must be that confrontational most of the time in order to function and advance, but the writers had chosen to follow that path and it's their story and their characters. Maybe the reason because I'm totally fine with what happened at the finale, and even when I'm doing my best to remain impartial, I can't help but agree more with Amy, is because I feel mirrored in her as a shipper, I mean, I understand who Sheldon is, how his mind works, that he is making an great effort, etc, and I know that after an awful couple of seasons this one have had great moments as the love confession, the fort and everything, but I still feel there's something off, and something lacking, after these five years, I also feel I deserve more than a distracted makeout session. Call me ungrateful and selfish, but even after all the latest great stuff and even when I know I'll never stop shipping them, right now I feel the relationship is still lacking some of the magic that drawn me to them in the first place. I honestly think this "time-off" was needed, even if it feels ill-timed at this moment, and here I am, hoping it can bring back what's lacking right now (IMO), a less reactive and more proactive Sheldon, the recovery of Amy as a character (please, stop treating her as only the less-important part of Shamy). Nothing would make me happier than see her side of the story for a change, could it be that Amy's attitude results puzzling for some because we rarely have the opportunity to see the Shamy stuff from her point of view? What do we really know about how she feels? Why after Sheldon saying the "L" word to her and all that kissing she still feels something is wrong? Just because she is that vain and self-centered? We have a lot to talk about Sheldon's idiosincrasies and psyche because the focus is all the time on him, I want to see more of her (the fact that she is my favorite character has nothing to do with that, of course ) I know I'm perhaps asking too much, that TBBT's creators aim is not really that deep, but I hope this opportunity will be taken beyond from just a cliffhanger device and brings good stuff for Shamy as a couple and for each one of them as individual characters. Oh!, and the ring, I haven't mentioned the ring before. I don't know if we are going to be told about the specifics, but I don't think he bought it as an intent to make amends with her after their fight, I feel Sheldon have had it from some time ago (just as his love and desire for her) but he's still afraid of giving it to her, as he feels he's not ready to give himself completely to her. I think that's beautiful in a sense, now I would like this plot to be given the proper treatment in the show, not necessarily a sappy or corny one, but the one a couple like Shamy deserves.
    3 points
  47. I think Maddie should delight us with her drawing skills and draw us a timelapse of the kiss when we get the promo photos
    3 points
  48. I want some scenes Amy and Sheldon and her Mom, finally, lol. Like I want to see him go to her Mom and ask for her blessing in marrying Amy
    3 points
  49. I've been thinking about this all day but I didn't have access to internet so here it goes... How can Amy think that Sheldon doesn't desire her sexually?In the Prom episode,Amy finally shows some clevage and Sheldon gets a panic attack! The poor guy wanted her so much he got a freaking panic attack!! Sure he said he got a panic attack because of the pressure,but if he didn't want her he wouldn't even be pressured.
    3 points
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