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  1. 36 points
    Thanks everyone for the best wishes on the taping, I had a great time! Ok here is my TR, the usual disclaimers apply--the quotes are close to what was said as I did take some notes, hopefully it rings true for those that read it when this episode airs. And if not, my apologies! The main thing I took from this episode was Beverly's take on the intro of Raj into Lenny's lives. As a lightweight Lenny shipper I didn't care for how this was framed, and I heard gasps from some in the audience too, because it just sounded too logical and all too real. I think that couple is still in for a haul this season despite how this episode ends. I could be wrong. As for Shamy's own drama, I think the "escape hatch" theory was somewhat logical too but Sheldon's reaction to it was more of a panic that Amys response was able to squash. Anyway, here ya go and I'm happy to answer any questions you have if I can.... "The Escape Hatch Identification" The opening scene was pre-taped and starts with Leonard on the couch in 4A. He looks upset and tells Penny Raj's latest post (unknown what he posted on) was sad. Raj is looking for a cheap place to live. Lenny feel sorry for Raj because of his money situation. They discuss offering Sheldon's old room to Raj. The scene switches to Howard and Bernie in bed, and an amused Howard is reading Raj's post too and he thinks the post is pathetic. Bernie gives Howard a "give him a break" look. Howard says he told Raj to try "India" in response to where he could live cheaply. They discuss setting Raj up in there garage. The scene switches to Shamy in bed with Sheldon looking at his laptop. Amy is annoyed and tells Sheldon no matter what he says they are not giving him a place to stay. Sheldon has the perfect spot for a life size Spider-Man statue. When Amy shoots him down he pleads for a life size Hulk or Batman statue, and Amy shoots them all down. Sheldon mumbles that he's beginning to think Amys offer of redecorating the apartment wasn't genuine...End of opening scene. The next scene begins with Howard phoning Raj and proposing he moves into their garage. Howard explains that it will fit all his furniture and also has a cool button that moves an entire wall up and down when pushed. Raj puts Howard on hold to take another call and its Leonard calling to offer Sheldon's old room. Raj puts Leonard on hold and goes back and forth between the two asking what the perks are ( how's the WiFi in the garage, can he use the downstairs bathroom, how is sharing a bathroom with Penny and does she own a loufer?) The last time he switches back to Leonard and tells him he's close to a decision Penny is on the line instead. She's annoyed and demands to know if he's moving in or not. Raj answers "Yes ma'am" in a meek tone. Footnote: Kaley looked really cute in a navy pullover sweater over a collared shirt and jeans, hair on her shoulders. I only mention it because to me she has been generally in the sweatpants hair in a messy bun mode lately (no offense intended so please don't flame me lol). In the next scene Shamy are following Lenny up the stairs from the mailbox lobby. Sheldon is holding a letter and tells Leonard he's confused by it since it is addressed to Occupant and he no longer occupies 4A and isn't sure if it belongs to him or Leonard. Leonard asks who the letter is from and Sheldon replies "A roofer" . Leonard said "It's yours", and Sheldon turns to Amy and smack her arm with the letter in a derisive manner while stating "Just throw it out" in a way that suggests Amy had told him to just toss it as junk mail when he first got it. The four of them continue walking upstairs with Sheldon expressing sympathy for Raj's predicament. Leonard tells Amy he's glad she has him on medication and that she "nailed the dosage" in reference to Sheldon's empathy. Sheldon gets annoyed at the comment and complains that people always get upset at his behavior. Penny chimes in and says "That's because for every ACTION you have a gigantic annoying REACTION". Leonard is pleased and tells Penny "just when I thought you couldn't get any sexier!". Amy drops her shoulders and is annoyed at Penny for her comment as they split up to go in their respective apartments. As they enter 4B Sheldon tells Amy that Leonard is only annoyed because he thinks he will be upset at his old room being taken by Raj. Amy asks "and aren't you?" and Sheldon replies "I'm outraged!"...Amy expresses bewilderment that Penny almost got a scientific theory right... Sheldon has a seat on 4B's couch and Amy asks him to talk about what's bothering him. Sheldon explains he feels like he's being replaced by Raj in 4A and that his old room holds a lot of memories for him. Amy sympathizes and says that room has memories for her too, and that it was where Sheldon first told her he loved her. Sheldon corrects Amy and says it didn't happen in the room but instead in the hall outside his room. Amy replies sarcastically "And THAT'S the love I'm talking about". She then continues and says that Raj is broke and is "probably" humiliated- Sheldon responds with "Until we know for sure how will I feel better?". The next scene is a group meal in 4A with everyone but Shamy, who are in 4B preparing to come over. Raj has just finished moving in and Raj asks Everyone if he can get them anything else after setting up the food containers. They decline and say he's done enough for them already and Raj says it's the least he could do since they helped carry all of his stuff up. Howard chuckles and tells Leonard "Look, you got a Raj and I got a Stuart-we should take them to a park where they can run around together!" Bernie shoots Howard a dry look and said "yeah, Mister paper towels" indicating Howard took the light stuff up the stairs. Shamy are in 4A preparing to go to 4B and Amy asks Sheldon what the gift bag is that he's carrying. he explains that he feels bad for Raj and is bringing a house warming gift to him. Amy looks suspicious and asks him if it's a bag full of "springy snakes". Sheldon said no--Amy responds "That was the lousiest anniversary present ever". Sheldon shoots back "Well you said surprise you, and it sure was a surprise when they sprung out" (or something to that effect). Shamy enter 4A and Sheldon welcomes Raj to the building with his gift. Penny begins to ask if the bag has those--Amy cuts her off and tells her she already asked Sheldon that...Raj is pleasantly surprised and removes a blank journal from the gift bag. Sheldon explains that some of his most brilliant ideas came to him in that room and he's sure that Raj will get some too. Raj is pretty pleased with it. Sheldon then tells Raj that Raj is poor and feeling humiliated and he hopes the book helps. Amy tries to cut Sheldon off with a "Sheldon..." and Sheldon chuckles and looks to Amy while saying "She's such a stickler for citing sources", and explains to Raj that what he said was actually Amy's words. Amy stands up to cut Sheldon off again and Sheldon responds with something to do with the cartoon Charlie Brown (can't remember the line). Raj is visibly upset and calls Sheldon a jerk, at which time Sheldon turns to the group and asks them "Can you believe this guy??"...they respond in unison "yes" and a bewildered Sheldon turns to Amy and says "I thought that would go differently" ( something like that). Amy suggests that she and Sheldon should eat in 4B. Sheldon is upset and tells the group and Raj "Can you believe him?? You take my apartment AND you turn my friends against me and YOURE the one that's angry?!" Raj responds with something like "you're the angry one and I'm the humiliated one", and Sheldon asks Amy why it's okay for Raj to say it and not him. Amy pushes Sheldon out and the scene ends. In the next scene Shamy are back in 4B and Sheldon is initiating a Skype call on his laptop to Leonard's mom Beverly. Amy asks why he is Skyping her and a flustered Sheldon says that this bedroom issue with Raj has all of these anger emotions surfacing, and he tells Amy that she (Amy) knows how he hates subconscious thoughts and emotions. Beverly answers and Sheldon explains the situation. There is a brief pause and Sheldon asks Beverly to skip the dramatic pause portion of her thoughts and to just get to the part where she tells him what's wrong. Beverly is amused and said she's still going to give him a pause, and then goes into her explanation as she sees it. Beverly tells Sheldon that he sees his old room in 4A as an "escape hatch" for his relationship after having moved in with "Doctor Amy Fowler", and with Raj taking the room Sheldon is now "trapped in the relationship" without it. A shocked Amy hears this and yells to Sheldon "Don't listen to her!" Beverly also says its a defense mechanism for Amy as well, and a flustered Amy comes from the kitchen to Sheldon's laptop and tells Beverly "No it's not" and Beverly responds "as she says defensively" with a snarky smirk on her face. Beverly is clearly enjoying what's going on. The scene ends with Beverly remarking how interesting it is that Leonard and Penny got another roommate to replace Sheldon. The next scene has Raj sitting on the couch in 4A with Cinnamon in his lap. Leonard is in the kitchen and Penny in her chair. Raj apologizes to Penny for the drama he created and Penny shakes him off, stating this is all Sheldon's fault. Leonard chuckles and says what Penny said would make a good throw pillow. Sheldon walks in unannounced and is immediately taken aback by Cinnamon's presence and shrinks from her. He excitedly tells Raj to put her on a leash and he tells him she's fine, at which time Sheldon tells Raj to at least hold her still so he can pretend she's a stuffed animal. Sheldon apologizes to Raj for his behavior yesterday and Raj accepts it. Sheldon confesses he can't take all the credit for his apology because Beverly's advice was responsible for it. Leonard chimes in sarcastically and wanted confirmation that HIS mother was actually helpful. The same mom who made HIS life miserable. Sheldon tells Leonard that Beverly also said Leonard and Penny had marital problems too and Penny denies this, saying "We're fine" in an annoyed tone towards Sheldon. Sheldon responds with "You're okay only when you have a buffer between you and Leonard". Lenny are taken aback by this. As Sheldon turns to leave he tells Raj that if he cries when Lenny are fighting they will take him to McDonalds for ice cream. The scene immediately switches to Leonard Skyping Beverly demanding to know what her problem was. Beverly explains that Sheldon was used as a buffer and when he left they are trying to replace him with Raj. Lenny both deny this at which time Beverly points out to Leonard that didn't he say Penny wanted her brother to be a roommate not long ago? Leonard appears to ponder that while Penny said that didn't count because it was family. Leonard appears to be shaken a little by this point that Beverly is making. Penny takes notice of this. The scene ends when Beverly tells Leonard "I would never get between you and Penny, I'll leave that to the parade of roommates you have".... It's evening now and the next scene shows Howard and Bernie sleeping in bed. Raj is standing next to the bed whispering to them which awakens Howard who shrieks at seeing Raj, which causes Raj to scream. Raj explains that Lenny are fighting and he wants to stay at their place instead. Stuart bursts in in his underwear holding a "Walking Dead" barbed wire baseball bat. Bernie tells Stuart it's just Raj but it it's still okay if he hits him. A panting Stuart tells them "If my heart stops just let me go"... Raj tells Howard that because of the drama he wants to stay somewhere else. Howard replies "I said it once and I'll say it again, try India". Raj asks if he can stay in the garage and Bernie suggests the couch for the night until they sort it all out. The scene switches to 4B with Shamy in bed. Amy is trying to sleep while a restless Sheldon tosses and moans. Amy asks what's the problem and Sheldon explains he can't sleep because of what Beverly told him. Amy wants to know if it bothered him and Sheldon tells her it did and he asks her "what if I'm feeling insecure about our relationship?". Sheldon appears truly disturbed and scared. Amy sits up and doesn't appear concerned. She tells Sheldon that he probably just sees the "escape hatch" as more of a contingency plan and nothing more. Sheldon ponders this and seems relieved. He smiles and says "well you do know how I like those" and then tells her "you know I even have one in the event of an apocalypse, I have a list of who I would eat first starting with my least liked friend". He ends the list with "and because I love you, you're the dessert". Amy, who appears a little annoyed at the turn the conversation took, says she wants to smile but thinks she's actually disgusted by the thought. Next scene has Raj and Stuart in the living room at Howard/Bernie's house. Both are in their pajamas with Stuart and Raj making the bedding on the couch for Raj. Stuart warns Raj that if he's looking for spare change in the couch that he already cleaned it out. Raj asks Stuart if they should both get a place to be roommates since they are both down on their luck. Stuart sits Raj down and explains that he has a good thing going on and if everything works out right this house will be his retirement home. Stuart then grabs a sandwich and is devouring it when Raj asks hi if he ever feels bad for sponging off his friends. Stuart tells him there's $6 worth of meat on his sandwich. He then explains that he went to Art Academy to be a graphic artist then a comic book artist, and all he has to show for it is a visible rib cage. He tells Raj that you can actually see his heart beating inside his chest. Raj said he didn't go to Art school and that instead he has a degree in Astrophysics. Stuart looks at Raj and says "It'll be easier to see the stars above without a roof over your head" and continues to eat his sandwich as the scene ends. The next day has Lenny in the pajamas waking up in the kitchen at 4A. As Penny walks in Leonard is looking at a note and tells her Raj moved out. He reads the note out loud and it ends with "Cinnamon is with me, but if you want to screw with Sheldon just tell him she's loose in the building". Leonard asks Penny if they should ask Raj to come back. Penny replies "You're the one who is worried a roommate is a sign of marital troubles" and Leonard responds with "That's only because my mother possessed my head like Satan, I mean really she IS Satan". Penny tells Leonard to go ahead and ask Raj back and Leonard begins to leave 4A in his robe. Penny asks him if he's going to change first and Leonard says "yeah hold on" and exits. He walks to the door at 4B and yells " Cinnamons loose in the building!"...Sheldon is then heard inside of 4B screaming "Amy lock the front door!"...with a smirk on her face Penny raises her coffee cup in a toasting gesture while seated at the kitchen counter. The next scene is at Howard/Bernie's house again. Everyone but Shamy are seated in the living room. Penny apologizes to Raj and tells him they were not fighting because of him. Raj feels terrible about the drama involving him and the bedroom. Raj said that not only did he cause the drama between Lenny but that he even made Sheldon mad and that Sheldon wouldn't want to return to 4A if he was there. Penny responds with "even more reason for you to stay with us". Howard offers the garage to Raj but Raj declines and says it's probably best to stay with Lenny. Raj assures everyone though that the living arrangement is only temporary and Bernie replies as she glances at Stuart "that's good, because you don't want a moocher living in your house permanently". Stuart tells Bernie " is that any way to talk about your baby??" The tag has Shamy sitting on the couch of 4B with Amy on an iPad and Sheldon on his laptop. Sheldon proudly boasts about the strength of their relationship and how glad he is that unlike the others THEY don't need to have a third person be a buffer. Amy dryly says "Yeah that's it". The camera pans out to reveal a full size Dark Knight Batman statue standing proudly behind them near the refrigerator. End of the episode! BTS: Not much really, the cast looked pretty busy in between takes. Johnny flirted a few times with the guy who does the marker and gave him a hug. Jim and Penny both were eating the fries in their containers before the group meal scene was shot in 4A. Penny blew a line on the stairs and laughed when she faced Jim. Mayim, Johnny, and Kunar all blew lines and so did Kevin Sussman. Kevin appeared to play with the baseball bat in between takes of the bedroom scene. During the usual crowd chat, Kaley claimed that we were getting two more seasons and that they were all excited and hoped everyone was ready to watch more of them
  2. 30 points
    Tonights taping "The Escape Hatch Identification". No ring (sorry Shamys), Raj moves in with Lenny (sorry Lennies) and some drama for Shamy and Lenny as a result though all ends well. TR to follow when I get back to my hotel
  3. 20 points
    thanks for the lovely detailed TR, 2L! I hope you had a lovely time! as to the episode itself: Hmmmmm. I have to confess that my first reaction to reading 2L's summary and then TR was: Yeah, this is why some people might groan at the thought of a renewal. Because this season has actually done a decent job moving most of the characters along. It's made a good fist of dealing with the pregnancy, even though Bernie is apparently a mutant elephant and nobody thought to tell us. The shake -up in the living arrangements has breathed fresh life into the shamy dynamic for the most part, and as a bonus we've had some really lovely scenes with PAmy and pamydette. Lenny suffered greatly in comparison, but I don't think lenny's being written significantly worse this season than it has been for...ouf, a while now. It is, however, noticeable that the show is stalling with them in comparison to many other characters. I wondered a little whether all this movement and freshness was because the showrunners knew they only had a few more weeks of the show, so they could just use up all their ideas. But I largely ignored the thought. And then came news of the renewal and a string of wheel-spinning, at-least-mildly irritating episodes. And I know correlation is not causation, but it is a bit hard to look at this latest TR and not think 'damn you, renewal-engendered complacency!' okay, it's going to take a while to unpack the things that intrigue me and the things that bother me about these plots, so let's make a list: a ) Raj:. Run, Kunal nayyar. Run. This late in the game, and all these writers can think of to do with your character is to bus you from house to house like a foundling. Never mind the implausibility of Raj's financial situation. Show, if you want us to buy that an academic in a not-particularly-deluxe-looking flat is broke, you have to play up his extravagance in other arenas in a sustained way. You have to give him bling and Lamborghinis and a new big screen TV every week and Swarovski feeding bowls for his dog and Bollinger in his Smeg fridge. You do not, for example, have him wandering the countryside looking like my maths teacher growing up. A maths teacher who managed to limp through life entirely solvent, by the way. It is a bit late in the day to hurriedly tell me in an episode that raj is extravagant, when you have taken no pains to SHOW me that he is. The occasional extravagant gift for his girlfriend? Hell, Leonard bought his girlfriend a car and his other great love a 4000 USD trip to a train something-or-other! And apart from his magically reappearing/vanishing student debt, Leonard manages to get by, yes? b ) women, amirite? Another episode where women are largely around to tut and sigh and be vaguely affronted by their menfolk. Bernie with Mister Paper Towels, and Amy with Sheldon's Batman whatever and his shitty anniversary gifts or her being disturbed at an actually quite sweet zombie dessert declaration that in quite a few other episodes I am fairly sure she would take in the spirit in which it is meant. And again, nobody is saying that women need to love every single thing their menfolk do. But I would quite like the show to mix it up more often and let the women have the crazy quirky decorating suggestions while the guys look perplexed. It was nice that penny went hogwild with the pink that one time. How about Amy wanting a harp in that tiny flat while Sheldon says '....er....'? Or Bernie wanting to convert a room into a lab? Something? c ) well, I suppose there was ONE exception. Pop psychology with Beverly Hofstadter! And just - oh, brother. Did anyone else get the feeling that all that blether about escape hatches and contingencies felt like the writers talking about themselves, rather than the couples? To be fair, they have somewhat accurately identified their own malaise with Lenny. The writers do indeed seem to struggle to write Lenny without a buffer. I might be vaguely optimistic if I weren't grimly certain that nothing concrete would ever come of it. And if I didn't see that the same explanation were being liberally daubed over Sheldon's pathologies. Right. Because the Man With A Thousand Contracts is apparently so terrified of commitment that he needs an escape hatch. And it is all so unnecessary, moreover. The seventh episode concisely and clearly diagnosed Sheldon's issues with moving. Moving is a change. Sheldon does not like change. Done! Simple! Why the zeal to pretend that lenny's problems are Sheldon's problems and vice versa? I would have more sympathy if the issue were more that Sheldon is worried about being burnt in his relationship and so looks on 4A as a contingency. Which is, thank heavens, what Amy said. It's nice that Amy is allowed a moment of clarity and acuity, but why not let her say so to Beverly instead of panicking and running around like a headless chicken? I love Christine Baraski, but this insistence on making Beverly seem some sort of omniscient puppetmaster in this episode seems rather irksome.
  4. 16 points
    Agreed, and even after having watched the taping and viewing multiple takes on several scenes I'm gonna have to see how it all comes together to get a better feel for it. I was disappointed to see yet another "clueless Sheldon" scene with him blurting out stuff to Raj and throwing Amy under the bus. On one hand he looked truly empathetic when it came to Raj, though he was unhappy his room was getting taken. He even gets the guy a thoughtful gift. Yet he still says dumbass things. Even got Amy a stupid anniversary gift apparently. Oh well.... Those who ship Lenny may be disappointed in the plot, and even the Shamy stuff was a little bit of a downer. Howard and Bernie were their usual sarcastic funny selves, and Stuart got in a few zingers and was pretty funny....a mixed bag for me.
  5. 15 points
    Raj was upset because he upset Sheldon (maybe he later realized he overreacted when he called Sheldon a jerk), but mostly because Beverly's revelation about Raj replacing sheldon as a buffer was a catalyst for Lenny drama- Leonard angrily jumps on Skype, Penny feels defensive about her brother, Leonars is now afraid that Beverly might be right, and Penny sees Leonards reaction as maybe weak. They dont fight WITH Raj, and Penny made it clear too, but Raj is feeling guilty. The theme with him in this episode, and he talks about it with Stuart, is feeling guilty about using friends and beeing a leech. That, coupled with the in-fighting with Lenny and Sheldon getting upset about his own relationship insecurity, had Raj fleeing the apartment building. Raj's note to Lenny was short but says some of this, I just cant remember the details becauae Johnny flubbed his linea reading it and everyone howled!
  6. 14 points
    Before a second take of the argument between sheldon and raj in 4A Kunal was screwing with Jim to get him to laugh. He feigned throwing the book at him and when that didnt work he silently mouthed "F-ck You!" while pointing at his face. This got Kim to stifle a laugh just as they were telling everyone quiet on the set and were about to shoot the scene. Jim looked away from Raj for a second but got his composure back. One of the audience members was asked between takes to recite the Rock Paper Scissors Spock thing. The guy stumbled through it and this caught the eye of some of the cast as the guy suffered through it. He actually managed to nail it to the applause of everyone, and Kayley came up and told the guy "that Spock thing was awesome good job!"..THIS caused Johnny to laugh out loud and say "Really, that Spock "thing"?? " Johnny clearly knew what the Spock game was and Kayley looked a little embarrassed as she replied "I dont know whatever, I heard "Spock" so..."
  7. 14 points
    That is an amazing TR, thank you. I can't believe the trouble people go to, taking the time to write up a TR with all the details when they are on vacation. We are all very grateful. I hope the experience will be a happy memory for you. Safe journey home.
  8. 13 points
    I thought the dessert line was absolutely adorable. I hope Amy was at least mildly charmed in her unsettlement at thinking about being eaten.
  9. 13 points
    Thank you so much 2L344! That was really detailed and I'm thrilled that you took all this time to provide us with spoilers! Just a quick question: Am I the only one who found Sheldon's declaration he would eat Amy last ("and because I love you, you're the dessert") very romantic in his quirky way? Amy, you know what you've got to do next: Put on a nice catwoman suit (after all cosplay is your thing right?), get all covered up in strawberries (or spaghetti with little pieces of hot dogs, I don't care) and tell Sheldon that dessert is served... :-)
  10. 13 points
    Thanks so much and glad u had fun!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  11. 13 points
    Apparently Michael Ausiello is having fun on TBBT set...
  12. 12 points
    Here’s my only serious issue with this series: when does this whole comedy-barn getting actual funny again? Maybe this cold beverage could help.
  13. 12 points
    Well a lot of people do rush through the main meal looking forward to the desert. Could that apply to cannibalism lol in the event of an apocalyptic event? I would say that's a big compliment to Amy lol. Saving her for last as well lol, nah i'll eat my friends but we can converse and be around each other until there is nothing left and then I will eat you lol. Sheldon sure does some adorkable and quirky declarations of love in dialogue lol.
  14. 12 points
    Just popping in to say... I am kind of unexcited (is that even a word?) by the last four episodes (aired and taped), but I honestly find the whole Beverly stuff in this one to be complete BS on every possible level. First of all, there was absolutely NO need to pull out pop psychology crap to explain why Sheldon's still attached to his old room. Sheldon has been canonically resistant to change forever, and is clearly written as somewhere on the spectrum. It is perfectly logical for him not to want his room to be given away or changed, regardless of whether he uses it or not. Remember the parking spot? Same thing. I honestly cannot stand Beverly when they portray her as this authority on psychology/psychiatrist because she IS NOT. She is absolutely dreadful, none of her claims, unlike the other scientific claims on the show, have any basis in anything but Freudian theory that has been dismissed by most of academic neuroscience and psychology for decades, and the rest is the kind of pop-analysis even Theodore could pull off better than she does. However, I think the point in the end is precisely that Beverly was wrong in her assessment. Sheldon is stressed out and restless at the idea that she might be right, but if she were right he would know she is. As soon as Amy provides HER explanation (based on a much more thorough understanding of Sheldon and, let's be honest, a more solid scientific background) he calms down immediately. So Sheldon does not see himself "trapped" in the relationship, he only has a contingency plan in the back of his mind in case things go badly, but "things go badly" does not mean when he gets fed up with Amy, it means that he's already experienced a breakup once and is probably subconsciously still recovering from that. He was worried s***less earlier on this season when he thought Amy was keeping a secret from him that it could be something bad. Amy's clearly not upset at Sheldon for what has happened, and she's totally right. Don't freaking listen to Beverly! One thing that did make me go "WTF" is that it seems to me like the gang, not Sheldon, was the one having disproportionately negative reactions to his behavior. He tried to be nice to Raj, the journal was a nice gesture, Sheldon has said far more clueless and rude things in the past, yet THIS is what gets everyone mad at him? I also didn't like Leonard mocking Sheldon's difficulty with empathy by making that joke about Amy getting the medication right. I don't know, it all seemed unnecessarily cruel to me, especially after that emotion detector episode that has clarified more than anything before that Sheldon is somewhere on the spectrum. As for Mayim... I'm sorry but all she did was post some fun photos from set. I think if you choose to read extra stuff into it and then get disappointed that they don't come true, it's not her fault. She's a self-confessed nerd and has stated she loves all the props on set. Plus, that Gollum figurine has been on that bookcase for a while now.
  15. 11 points
    What really piss me off is that there was no need to move in Raj with Leonard and Penny. I know this has been already disscussed, but Penny could afford an apartment on a waitress salary, and even if Raj can't he can try a roommate, if I were Penny, I'd be really pissed, so her brother no and Raj yes?. Penny and Leonard have lived alone what? Ten minutes?.Let them explore their marriage in peace and overcome their insecurities without a third wheel.
  16. 11 points
    That's one of the biggest problems for me lately: they always make it appear as if they are finally going to get to the root of the problems (which as I said I think is mostly about Penny, not her treatment of Leonard which is the problem itself but something deeper that she can't quite figure out) but then it's just another fight, another off-screen resolution and the next episode/two the same thing all over again. If it was going on for 3-4 episodes, the last one of them being the one where they have a serious talk and a proper understanding and resolution, I wouldn't mind, it would be indicative of some interest and thought about the characters from the writers. I'm all for exploring deep psychological issues (come on! I'm a clinical psychology MA student!). But this is going nowhere for too long.
  17. 11 points
    I (and I'm sure others) have heard this over and over again in the last few years. "Yeah, this sucks, but it could lead to something better." then it never does. Or , "This sucks, but at least they are addressing the problem." But we get no resolution, and/or it's not mentioned again.
  18. 11 points
    Oh man, clueless insufferable Sheldon/annoyed suffering Amy AGAIN. Sheldon delivers another apology (I'm fed up and sick of this, the novelty wore off ) while Amy schools him on empathy , more drug jokes. In short -Nothing New. Add to that : the trope of woman suffers the man's nerdy childish pursuits, man screws up anniversary gift; woman is dissappointed. It's the same lazy basic trope with many other lazy sitcom couples. I would have preferred some focus on Amy’s equally nerdy stuff in 4B and how her and Sheldon can reach a compromise. I would have also loved if Shamy had a funny discussion about Apocalypse in bed, and all the weird romantic ideas that can stem from it . On a side note: I thought Sheldon's zombie dessert line was pretty funny and weird and scary but oddly sweet. But the writers would rather have Shamy at odds . They could have had Amy say something equally outrageous and romantic (in her mind ) to Sheldon. After all, Amy has been shown to say some outrageous stuff but sadly Mayim is again reduced to suffer, look annoyed and be a straight man . Ok im done repeating myself, I think i might just have to hold off on looking forward to tbbt for a while because it is getting pretty stale and lazy just as I suspected (maybe because of the renewal ??) . And im losing interest . Maybe I'll check out 10.23 and 10.24 later. I can only imagine how those who ship Lenny felt in the last 2 seasons.
  19. 11 points
    What does MTE mean? lol! As for Sheldon... To me it's not a matter of then vs. now, necessarily, but a matter of context. I don't think Sheldon has ever been "only a jerk". Even back in the day, he had episodes where he was very wise and helpful and tried hard, and episodes where he was more self-centered and obnoxious. As much as I don't think that "Sheldon being Sheldon" is ever an excuse (and I ranted about that plenty), I also don't think that "Sheldon being Sheldon" means he needs to be put in his place all the time just because he's the way he is. I do agree that he's been deliberately shown to work hard on himself in these last few episodes, but if in the episode he had done something truly obnoxious and excessive (like the way he escalated things when he and Leonard were fighting over possessions) then fine, he deserves it. But here he didn't do anything that warranted that kind of reaction, quite the contrary. I think Sheldon has and will continue to have moments where he is more of a jerk and moments where he's trying hard and fumbling and moments when he's trying hard and succeeding. But the fact that the writers seem to treat most of these situations as Sheldon being automatically in the wrong just by virtue of being Sheldon, is irksome to say the least. Especially when, despite their (admirable, IMO) refusal to label him, they clearly make it obvious time and time again that a lot of these things are things he struggles with and are out of his control. ETA: On the other hand, I am frankly fed up with the show coddling Raj like he's this poor poor fellow who is so perfect and nice if only a good woman turned to look at him and everyone needs to feel sorry for him all the time, now even because he apparently was so spoiled all his life that now he's broke because he can't make ends meet on his scientist salary (unlike, I don't know, every single other character on the show other than Penny and Bernie, who are on the same salary and do just fine). Raj can literally do and say anything and the women of the gang, especially, are written as teaming up around him to console him. They're at least exposing his flaws more this season, but it still comes with that veil of "poor baby" like the universe is against him for no good reason.
  20. 11 points
    I was bothered at first, but after some reflection, I think it comes down to Amy's insecurities. When she first heard it, no doubt the little goblins in her head were shouting "he's gonna wanna leave you, he's not committed to the relationship" hence the panic. However, once Amy had had some time for her own reflection and to analyze it more clearly without those darn goblins, she realized that Beverly was wrong and was able to explain it in a clear way. IMO. I love Amy, but while she may be shown as more emotionally stable than Sheldon, she's not exactly the most stable person herself.
  21. 11 points
    MTE! I think Beverly is expertly skilled in hitting a person's weak spot and pulling the rug from under their feet. But she doesn't exactly understand people on a deeper level. Sheldon's relationship with Amy is such a vulnerable spot for him - but not in the way that Beverly may think it is. As we all very well know, Sheldon does have insecurities in certain areas in that he's afraid Amy might think less of him and maybe even, as you say, fear that she might leave him again. But he isn't doubting his own feelings or commitment, hence why he's so upset at the mere suggestion. Good to hear I'm not the only one! As said in my post earlier: It's a side effect of when you have his character work so hard on himself and actually succeed. In old times Sheldon was indeed a jerk so when the gang was mean to him you could say "oh well, he had it coming!" But now after over a year of episodes where every other story for him is like some therapy session and he is shown to try so so hard to improve himself and he actually makes tangible progress - and yet still you have the same mocking reactions from the gang and we have reached that tipping point where it feels, indeed, unnecessarily cruel. I've said this for a while now but what I would wish is for a story that tackles the group dynamic head on. Maybe Sheldon and/or Amy have enough of this and give the gang a "The reason you suck" speech because the small missteps Sheldon makes these days really don't warrant the constant overreaction from the gang. Sheldon changed and the gang needs to get the memo already!
  22. 11 points
    Hey fellow Shamys, I posted a pretty lengthy TR in the DT thread (I don't think I'm allowed to post it here?) but as always if you have any question by all means ask away and I'll try to answer if I can. Soooo disappointed that Mayim's tease of an IG post with Gollum amounted to zip! Thanks to all that wished I had a good time (I absolutely did!)
  23. 11 points
  24. 10 points
    Welcome to the dark side! Just kidding. Martin, I agree with you completely and the fact that someone as optimistic as you reacts in this way makes me feel I am not alone in being mad at the writers for how they are treating Lenny and its shippers. IMO, at least you are not overreacting.
  25. 10 points
    No to going back to 4A either Sheldon on his own or Shamy! We all remember the debates on what apartment we wanted Shamy to end up and this has worked out perfectly. Being in 4A for one would have largely meant Sheldon keeping his old homeostasis and probably caused them more issues as they tried to transition to living together. And to quote Sheldon: With them both in 4B they have kind of developed their own routine and way of life, Amy is now his homeostasis. I can tell you now issues like the bathroom schedule, thermostat settings etc likely would have made Amy's life hell had they ended up in 4A. Then there would have been the issue about the bed, with one of them likely in one room and the other in Leonard's. In 4B they had no choice but to get used to sharing a bed! We know that first night was rough but they got through it and seem perfectly comfortable sharing a bed now. It's nice and snug, they get to hang out with their friends in 4A but also be alone together in 4B when they want. Moving them into 4A would also perhaps increase the chances of some old habits or routines resurfacing as well for Sheldon. Shamy in 4B was a fucking genius move.
  26. 10 points
    If I were Kaley or Johnny, I would be so pissed. I'm thinking (only conjecture on my part) that JG may have been fed up and that is one of the reasons the negotiations took so long. Kaley's aside to Johnny recently when telling an audience that things were nearly worked out ("right" I believe she said to him???) sort of points to him needing something from TPTB. At this point, they are all (more than likely) financially set for the rest of their lives. So, for me his biggest beef would be "what the hell is going on with my character? A roller-coaster ride for 2 1/2 years! WTH!" It is more than probable that the episode taped last night and maybe even the remainder of the season, were written before things were finalized for a renewal, but I am willing to bet that JG and to a lesser extent KC had issues with the direction of their characters.....Only time will tell.
  27. 10 points
    I'm no Lenny supporter but even I can see some of the issues that some shippers do have with them right now. A reporter needs to get Molaro in a room and ask him what is going on with them, what's the plan? He's not going to reveal specifics but his response would indicate whether they perhaps have something planned or not or if they are just writing it as they go. It also might shed some light on what's their problem, because quite frankly after a number of angsty moments this season between them mostly initiated by Penny but also some by Leonard I still haven't the foggiest what is up with them.
  28. 10 points
    Jim writes the best captions ever!!! Plus, he keeps us on our toes regarding questions to which we have no answer yet: Is Amy impressed by the looooooooong "list" of panelists? Does she accompany Sheldon to SDCC?
  29. 10 points
    Hey I'm all for Amy getting a chance to be her quirky self. To have the roles switched, have Sheldon be the one to comfort her when she's upset. Have Sheldon be weirded out because Amy is performing brain experiments on herself, (he could walk in and she has the portable brain scan thing she showed Penny in 5x01 on herself) Have Amy want to fill their apartment with her own quirky stuff. And yes to Amy giving him a gift. I've been very happy with Shamy this season, so I guess it was inevitable for things to go back to "old ways" but surely the writers will see that the new dynamic works with them. Fans and critics were singing its praises, so hopefully they start to wean themselves off the old tired dynamic and let Amy and Sheldon, be their equally quirky selves, but more importantly act as a unit.
  30. 10 points
    No! I also think it's extremely romantic, but also a very funny and strangely adorable and dorkably charming thing to say. His compliments are always so quirky haha. And I also love how he said "because I love you" instead of "because you're my girlfriend." It's so much more meaningful that way, and I love love love that he's not shy about telling her he loves her. I never would have imagined they would be throwing around the L-word as much as they do now. When he proposes to her I'm sure we'll get a kickass ILY too!
  31. 10 points
    I actually thought he tag of Platonic Permutation was the most beautiful part! I'm eternally touched by the notion that Amy wanted Sheldon back unconditionally. And Sheldon's line about getting over her not being one of the things he excels at. I love it. <3 Anyway, I don't really see this episode as dramatic as I do the writers shining a light on something that's always been there that most of us have forgotten. It makes perfect sense and is completely in keeping with Sheldon's character to want to have back up plans in case things go awry. And the fact that Sheldon is so upset over this suggestion that he's not completely secure in his relationship says a lot about how he actually consciously feels very secure. And the thought of not being secure terrifies him because he loves Amy and he doesn't want anything to come between them. I also think it's a breath of fresh air to have Sheldon be the one who's "insecure" instead of Amy for a change. She's the one reassuring him instead of the other way around. I personally really like that. If the writers wanted to (which I doubt will happen because I'm always wrong lol) they could delve deeper and have a whole proposal plot around Sheldon being subconsciously hesitant to propose because of what happened the last time he had plans to propose. And if they had Amy once again reassuring Sheldon that if he proposed she'd say yes and everything would be fine, that would also be a breath of fresh air. The only thing that had me furrowing my brows, and I can see I'm not the only one, is this disproportionate outraged the group had to Sheldon in this episode. And the jabs from Lenny in the hall seem really strangely mean considering at that point Sheldon hadn't said a thing wrong to inspire those mean comments. But of course I need to see the episode first! Ooh and I also love the references to thee first time they said I love you and I LOVE Sheldon reiterating it again! You guys know how I am about ILYs! Thanks so much, Randy!!! Your TR was so awesome!
  32. 10 points
    @2L344 thank you so much for the report, you did a great job writing it and it was very kind of you to provide it, we here are all TBBT junkies and you just gave us our fix (and I mean that in a good way).
  33. 10 points
    Looking at the big picture here what I really like about this is that the writers are emphatically shutting down 4A as an option for Sheldon alone or even with Amy together - because there are still many people who think this is temporary with either Shamy and Lenny switching apartments or just Sheldon moving back in or whatever. But this looks like an episode that says: The LAs are a set, Sheldon doesn't have his "escape hatch" y'all think he has - now deal with it! Good. The other thing I really liked is the little redecoration joke with the huge statue. As said, I really hope that this is just for the joke and they throw it out again because there's just no space. But what else this tells me is that they're still not done with this place. Especially with the two year renewal in mind I'd love to see more changes in 4B!! :D Everything else is a bit of a mixed bag. I like how the show continues to show Sheldon getting better on the empathy department, I like how he's still working on himself and that we even get to see a skype talk with Beverly (it has been mentioned that they're in close contact but we rarely get to see any of that so this is a nice nod), I like how Amy manages to calm Sheldon down and the bed scene sounds cute (albeit with a weird Walking Dead twist lol), I like that overall this is about emphasising the strength of their relationship. What I don't like is that Amy is mostly being pushed in a role where she's reacting to everything around her with annoyance - be it Sheldon, Beverly or the rest of the gang. Ugh. I also don't like that of all the offensive things Sheldon has ever said or done this feels like it should be way way waaaaaay down the list so I don't understand the outrage. The gang is mean to him all the time and it's all his fault. He expresses his genuine empathy in a clumsy way and he's suddenly the biggest jerk. I mean...????? It's surely a side effect of growing Sheldon so much in recent years that his missteps now seem pretty small and don't seem to justify a big fight - especially when he's frequently at the receiving end of mean comments himself. Thoughts?
  34. 10 points
    I think Beverly's explanation to Sheldon's anger, coupled with Amy's take on it, make perfect sense. Sheldon has always been a fan of back-up plans, they give hims a sense of security. It has not so much to do with how confident he is in his relationship, but with how his mind works. Knowing that his old room in 4A was still there, just in cases, gave him a peace of mind that everything was settled in his life, whatever might happen. Loosing that room probably gave him a glimpse to the unknown, and that's something Sheldon Cooper doesn't take well. Amy knows him so deeply that she could reassure him with few words and that was enough for him. Well...that and the Batman statue, probably, LOL!
  35. 10 points
    There is no way Raj's apartment rent is higher than 4A one. 4A is a two bedroom apartment, while Raj's is a 1 bedroom one and, frankly, whatever he says about that, it is not a de-luxe flat. In the sneak peek for today episode, the writers tried to explain why he is broke even if for years his parents totally supported him. He has very high car payments and credit cards debts due to an "emergency" credit card he supposedly pays by himself. TBH I don't buy that, for sure he earns at least 10 times more than Penny did as a waitress. I agree with you, it is a plot device of some sorts, but it doesn't make too much sense. I didn't see that coming at all!
  36. 10 points
  37. 9 points
    Leonard and penny are the pillar relationship of the show,I know it doesn't look like that right now., but I'm not speaking about a concrete episode or season, but about the whole spirit of the show. They were the reason I began watching the show, I lost the interest after their break up in season 3 and after that I just begun to love shamy and since then I'm Shamy at heart, but I've always wanted Lenny together and happy. Maybe I'm not so invested in them like you, but they have to be end game , if not all the meaning of the entire show is lost. I'm not telling you to trust the writters to give them better stories or to be patient, you can complain and be frustrated with the way they are been written, what I mean is that I don't think that they dare to end the show splitting them up
  38. 9 points
    Plus, the way things are presented makes me believe that Penny will be much more miserable without Leonard. I don't know about him, maybe after a long time he will be okay. To me, her problems do not appear to be caused by him or by their relationship.
  39. 9 points
    Oh, cod, I read the comments you guys were talking about and I understand your frustration now. Again, I wouldn't mind if they switched but all these people who are all "this is against Sheldon's character and it should have never happened and blah blah blah" really don't get the point and are unrealistic. People, even those with hungups, sometimes manage to do the most unexpected things if they have the right motivation. It's like people think that other people operate on a fixed pattern of A -> B, when in reality they fluctuate around a continuum of behaviors and act accordingly to where the pieces around them fall. Sheldon has lived in several places in his life, so obviously he must have moved from "his spots" before. He threatened to move back to Texas when he was hurt that the guys falsified his data, because he was too upset to remain. He left on a train on a whim because he had a breakdown over his life changing too quickly. Now he's obviously found that living with Amy is something he enjoys enough to give up his spot (which he sits in anyway all the time), and it's not like they haven't shown him struggling or adjusting. Bah. I sometimes wish people turned on their brains before criticizing things.
  40. 9 points
    This assumes the writers have an interest in writing a story where Lenny are doing something together, aren't fighting, or There is a story for them that doesn't include Sheldon.
  41. 9 points
    Yeah, it's a pity that after roughly half a dozen episodes with fighting and all sorts of other issues there's still no payoff in sight. Like, is there something (hopefully positive) the writers are working towards to? Personally, I'll happily eat my metaphorical vegetables in form of some drama when I know there'll be a delicious dessert that makes it all worth it. I think it's time to allow us a little glimpse into the kitchen to see what this is all about cause right now everyone is fed up with what we've been served so far and are still getting seconds shovelled onto our plates nobody asked for.
  42. 9 points
    For all his lousy anniversery gifts Sheldon has actually given some great romantic ones like naming the asteroid after Amy , his lit up Brain Scan and the surprise brunch (technically not a gift, but a gesture). Tbh , at this point it wouldn't kill the writers to have Amy give him some romantic gifts on screen coz I don't even recall what Amy got him on their anniversary. Her gestures don't have to be ultra romantic, infact it would be kinda funny if the situation was reversed and we see Sheldon complaining about a lousy gift Amy got him. I just want them to mix it up a bit , they are repeating themselves.
  43. 9 points
    Thanks so much @2L344 your TR was very detailed ! Not the episode we all secretly hoped it would be - but I do wonder if this is going to pan out with a proposal fairly soon, if Sheldon subconsciously has been feeling a little insecure then , being engaged will be security !! - anyway we will see, I still say engagement by season finale !! I like the sound of @vomnar 's timing - it makes sense to me ! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  44. 9 points
    General audience finds those moments hilarious, so I am afraid they are never going to go away. Sheldon for years had a one or two step forward one step back thing going on. This season it's been like more 3, 4 or even 5 steps forward but we still get an occasional step back. I'm happy where his character is, just if it was me I would be dropping some stuff by now especially with where he seems to be and how much he has changed. Ah well just one of these running things/gags you have to just put up with, each character has one or two or more on this show.
  45. 9 points
    So they get Lenny to the point where they recognise the need to address issues and before they get a chance to work on them, they have to put their life on hold to hug Raj on a daily basis? Someone new to observe from the island?!? Nope. Hope this ends quickly Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  46. 9 points
    Thank you so much for taking the time to write this all down, @2L344!! Glad to hear you had a great time. :D
  47. 9 points
    Thank you! Hope you had a great time!! <3
  48. 8 points
  49. 8 points
    Just a litte respite from the goings-on......My favorite picture of them.....
  50. 8 points
    IMO Raj living with Lenny is utter bullshit. So, as I see it Shamy can live together by themselves, but Lenny can't. In a previous episode Penny even seem relieved that Raj had said no, and a couple of episodes later he goes back on his words, and they accept it? Really? And... Leonard is fine with having the guy who almost slept with his now wife sleeping in the next room, listening to how they make love? I'd hope he'd grow some balls and just say no. This is almost as bad as the Randall thing. Hope they made the decision together as pathetic as it was. Besides they're married, recently married, and can't seem or want or need to be by themselves? They apparently always need a crutch or interference of some sort? It is as if they are by themselves they can't relate to each other. This is almost the LA all over again. I knew the writers were going to pussy out in one way or another in the end. I'm really disappointed.
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