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  1. To those who asked, I did have a great time at this taping, thank you. My opinion is no doubt highly colored by seeing it live, but I think it’s my favorite episode of this season. It was a very friendship-focused episode, imo, and it was especially nice to have some scenes for the girls again. Both Penny and Bernadette were excellent friends to Amy, particularly Penny who planned things. The quilting party was Penny’s idea, and came from her thinking about what she thought Amy would love. When it turned out that Amy’s expectations were different, she and Bernadette shifted gears and made it happen. Specifically, I think that what Amy wanted was the experience of feeling like she had a wild night, kind of like early seasons Amy, who didn’t want to miss out on things. But I’m not so sure that Amy truly wanted to do some of those things, you know? So her friends lying about the evening was kind of ideal. Amy got to feel like she had a wild night without actually having to do anything that would’ve made her uncomfortable. I think it was a good friendship episode for the guys too, having each others’ backs to go meet the crazy physicist in the woods. It wasn’t a bachelor party per se, but if you think of the spirit of a bachelor party, I think this seems appropriate for Sheldon. His bachelor days weren’t filled with drinking, partying, and women; his bachelor days were filled with the delusion that he was fine on his own and with his aspirations of a life solely focused on work. One last look at that makes a lot more sense than a traditional party. I’m not someone who likes everything that the writers do, but I have to give them credit here because I thought it was a clever way of doing a ‘bachelor party’ for Sheldon.
    22 points
  2. Reminder: This thread only allows positive discussion about Shamy. If you don't dig the Shamy:
    18 points
  3. Behind the scenes everyone seemed in positive spirits and had lots of good energy, which is why I don't think anyone knew about Stephen Hawking yet. Melissa Rauch had a tough time getting out one of her lines about the body shots. She joked that her teacup was actually full of straight bourbon (or something along those lines). There were at least 3 different spots where the actors had to wait extra long for the audience to stop laughing. One being a Raj moment followed by a joke from Leonard, the other 2 being in the tag scene. Watching the actors' facial expressions during these long moments that they have to wait makes it even funnier. I think they always shorten those waits in editing, but it's a fun aspect of watching a live taping, and hopefully a good sign of a funny episode. The bar scene with James Maslow was pre-taped. I think he only had a line or two, but I'm not sure. We only see the pre-taped scenes once, so I don't tend to remember those as well as the live scenes which are shot at least twice. I don't believe he was present at the actual taping.
    16 points
  4. A nice follow up by you @RJ1013 . From your posts about the episode, I agree regarding the friendships for both Amy and Sheldon. That Penny and Bernadette planned something that they would never in a million years want to do themselves was extremely thoughtful and that they readilly switched gears also points to a true friendship. The same can be said for the guys. The traditional bachelor party is definitely NOT something Sheldon would enjoy. That he was able to look at "what might have been" had he not met and fell in love with Amy was a nice touch. I'm glad that you enjoyed your experience. It is wonderful that you can call the episode you personally witnessed being created in front of the cameras your favorite. Thank you for all your posts that shared your time with TBBT!
    16 points
  5. Yes, exactly! I know some Lenny fans will be disappointed at the lack of scenes for that couple in this episode. Assuming that these fans enjoy the characters of Leonard and Penny individually, I hope they'll be willing to look at this episode for what it is instead of hating it for what it isn't. Otherwise those fans will miss out on some nice moments of friendship. I've always felt that Leonard and Penny's enduring friendships with the odd (and often difficult) Sheldon and Amy is part of what makes them so endearing and part of what shows us, the audience, a lot of their best and kindest character traits.
    15 points
  6. I love their development, always wanted some of the things we see them experiencing now. Everyone knows development and progressing their story along is what gets me excited and hooked. For me as a Shamy we are getting the best of both worlds now, still nerdy and brainy together but also in a relationship that is more intimate and loving. I just think they are in the perfect place right now and I think you clearly see that in them. They just look happier. This episode we just learned about has both of them reflecting on what they were like back then and what were their desires and priorities were back then. And by the end of the episode what conclusion did they come to? That they are better off and happier now than they were back then and that they love their lives.
    14 points
  7. Sheldon's thoughts during Amy's riverdance "How long till our honeymoon again? Wowza I can't wait." Seriously, I love this TR. The tag scene really stood out to me and here's why. First off, a lovely good morning cheek kiss and then a more passionate one, yes thank you. Second, while it was sweet to hear Amy say she'll always love Sheldon even if he's not a hyper focused successful scientist, we've heard that before. Here we get the other side too. Amy, while still holding on to her interests and just as socially awkward, isn't always going to be that serious well behaved person. AKA the person she was when sheldon met her, and we got to hear him reassure her that he'll still love her. The reassurance wasn't one sided. That, to me, is what transcends this episode from a great one, to a exceptional one. I am really excited to see it.
    11 points
  8. Thanks again! Good point there about Sheldon. Well put. I also think these traits are the ones they share. I don't think Leonard and Penny are an "opposites attract" case. They have similarities which people tend to overlook and the writers de-emphasize while emphasizing their differences.
    10 points
  9. Great point! Reminds me of early show Amy when she got more friendly with the girls and experienced some of the things they did or she wanted to do but couldn't as say a teenager. Sheldon in those episodes often used to have that look like 'what are you doing? or What happened to you?' and in some cases frowned upon it perhaps thinking he might lose this intellectual equivalent whose company he enjoyed and someone he was developing feelings for. Great to see their relationship has involved and love is very much at the center of their thought process. Doesn't matter if they have changed a lot (they both have) they still love each other, I am so looking forward to that scene!
    10 points
  10. I am one of the Lenny fans you speak of. I of course have not seen the episode, but the kindness toward their friends as they prepare to marry is one of the hallmarks of Leonard, of Penny and of Lenny. They are the most thoughtful people in the series and to be able to witness what they do for Sheldon and Amy will give me a lift.....
    9 points
  11. Good point! For funniest it would be if it can be seen a drunk Sheldon or an awkard Sheldon dealing with a stripper ( guilty , as I would laugh surely) in his bachelor party, it would turn to be ooc, as it would look like he was trying to do what was expected a groom do or behave in that kind of event. I think it was a clever way Sheldon say good bye to his bachelor time and a fabulous way to remind the audience these characters are true friends to each others, no matter their differences of personalities, quirks or background. I am really looking foward to this one.
    9 points
  12. In terms of Shamy's uniqueness people keep saying they are too normal now but imho it doesn't make it a universal truth. What one person might find boring and normal another might find "unique" and vice versa. Are there general fans of the show who think they are too normal now? Of course. Are there even Shamy fans who don't like the development and think they are too normal now? Sure. Does that actually make them too normal for everyone? Nope. What I always found unique about Shamy is not so much what they do but how they do it. To me there has always been a certain normalcy as to how their relationship developed ("friends to lovers" is a popular trope after all) but what made is interesting were the quirkiness of their interactions and the struggles they had to overcome to get to the point where they are now. The way they are conducting their relationship is not something I see any of the other couples on the show do.
    9 points
  13. Press release for episode 11.19 "The Tenant Disassociation" Source: cbspressexpress.com/
    8 points
  14. Yeah, they were pretty open about it, hence why I called it the "most prominent example". Part of the issue is that they are sitcom characters who more often than not have a limited circle of friends so they keep recurring characters to a minimum. Penny, for the most part, was mainly set in her roles as the love interest for Leonard and a foil for Sheldon respectively. The people she hung out with were nameless extras in the odd episode and as such fell by the wayside pretty quickly. I guess if you need an explanation one could handwave it with her being drawn into Leonard's social circle more and more and subsequently she lost interest hanging out with a bunch of dumbos much like he ruined dating stupid hunks for her.
    7 points
  15. *) I would like to see this could foil all the stupid jokes about alleged laughtracks that are so often spread in other forums. Thanks for the bts-parts!
    7 points
  16. Reminder: this thread only allows positive posts about Lenny. If you don't have anything nice to say,
    7 points
  17. LOL Nah. But keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
    7 points
  18. I think they really need something for Penny to do,. I think Penny is (or used to be) probably the second most popular character after Sheldon. At the very least, the character is one of the more popular ones. So I think they are under-utilizing her. There were some Penny-centric episodes like Barbarian Sublimation and maybe some others in season 6, but I think there are few of those. The last good season they focused on Penny was in season 7 with her quitting cheesecake factory and her acting career. After season 8, they just kinda gave up IMHO. Lately there has been very little going on for her own stories(there are stories to tell other than wedding and babies).
    6 points
  19. Oookaaay....if you say so... Kind of a quirky version of the Ricardos and the Mertzes. I agree Lenny are not getting enough screen time. I think this problem would be better served if they gave Penny a better, more interesting job. I wish we would see an episode that focused on her.
    6 points
  20. OK, I thought this thread only allows "positive" posts about Shamy, so when I posted here, I was always being careful about my posts. If I want to see negative posts about Shamy, (or Lenny for that matter), I'd go to the discussion thread. Am I wrong or something???
    6 points
  21. Exactly my point. I do think since early seasons there's a sort of positive reinforcement cycle at work with Sheldon. In early seasons people reacted positively to him so they gave him more and more screentime/stories, then they gave him Amy and people reacted positively to her so they continued to grow their relationship, then they had that whole will-they-won't they time with Shamy that people apparently reacted positively to so they took it as far as they could and eventually resolved that in S9, and again people reacting positively to Shamy's milestones encouraged them to go all out with the wedding plots. So unless they fuck up massively with Shamy somehow there is no reason for them to stop this cause they will surely get positive feedback in some form. And yeah, I feel sorry for you that your favourite couple fell by the wayside in the process. At least this season is a lot better than the last one but even as a non-Lenny I'm disappointed with how they've been handled. The writers wouldn't even need to take much time away from Sheldon to give Lenny their own stories. There are a few things I'd hoped would develop more during the season but so far a proper storyline still hasn't materialised. The bits we got just went nowhere again. Oh well.
    6 points
  22. A space reserved for him at their wedding or reception, because "he brings his own chair".
    5 points
  23. We don't know what kind of friends these were. It could be that they were mostly "hang-out friends", friends for going to dance clubs and stuff like that, not friends she would confide in. Also, as @April said it could be that she doesn't fit with them anymore. Penny has changed a lot. The nature of her romantic relationships has changed as well, it seemed that these were much more about the physical aspect than trust and companionship.
    5 points
  24. Wasn't that one of a typical beloved off-screen event?
    5 points
  25. Thank you so much for all the info that you have so gracefully provided for us. We do so appreciate all that we can get and what we have received makes it so I can't wait to to see the episode myself. Great job!
    5 points
  26. Good question. I think that it shows their good chemistry to each other, whether with or without scripts. …as in any event. -------------------------------------------------------------------- @Tripper Who’s this guy in the background? Is it you?
    5 points
  27. There was this site that said their mailbox if full of fans wanting Lenny to have a baby, you don't see that hapenning. I also think the writers should work to balance things, so they increased what seemed to appeal to the many but should it be increased sooo much? I generally like Sheldon and Shamy, I do, but some times (especially seasons 8-10) it's just so much that it makes me get tired of Sheldon.
    5 points
  28. No good reason. Just feel like a little change!
    4 points
  29. You're not wrong, just ignore them. They're doing it on purpose
    4 points
  30. I think this season's Lenny is the best Lenny since...I don't know...S.6 E.24, Leonard went to the North Sea. They are both in love, totally in sync, teaming against the world (well, mostly Sheldon and Shamy, LMAO) ...When they are facing problems, they talk it out and solve them together. They talk about the baby topic several times, Leonard helps Penny study the new drugs, they have nice dinner outside and they entertain friends with dinner at 4A. They talk about the future...Even Beverly made good friends with Penny and was warming up to Leonard through Penny... I don't know about others, but I'm happy with the Lenny we got this season.
    4 points
  31. There was also an interview somewhere somewhen where they said if they bowed to public opinion they'd have to write Shenny in cause they had a very vocal fanbase at that time. But that didn't happen either. Thank goodness. I do think however that Jonny isn't completely off with his assessment that they do get enough positive feedback on Sheldon and Shamy to justify the focus on him as a character/them as a couple. The thing is, if they didn't they'd change what they are doing. Or at least we know that they do exactly that with certain running gags and such and it's easier to spot cause they sometimes end so abruptly (Amy's weird crush on Penny being probably the most prominent example). The problem is though that I think this started a long long time ago - like somewhen in S1 or S2 where they realised they had struck gold with Sheldon, then they were mining that with the Shenny thing they had for a while before eventually coming up with Amy and expanding the character in terms of a romantic relationship. Point being, I don't think it's a sudden development but something that has build up over time, and instead of thinking the focus changed only with S8 and the following I think it happened gradually over the years and S8 might have just been the tipping point for people who don't like him. Either way though, people are massively interested in Sheldon and subsequently Shamy for the writers to keep going with the same momentum since giving him more an more screen time in S2 and onwards.
    4 points
  32. Funny seeing those s6 pics. That episode aired today 5 years ago.
    4 points
  33. No, I commented on the quote "the ratings are a bit embarrassing" . At no time was quality discussed, ratings were discussed.
    4 points
  34. They know their show better than anyone, if they shift focus or switch attention to a character more it's because it's what the audience wants. By that I mean not just pleasing one section because we know the fanbase is diverse but they always will go with the mindset of producing content that meets the needs of the majority. That's pretty much common sense and the smart thing to do, they are a business after all don't forget. Let's say there was a sudden clamouring for Stuart to get more screen time. If their data and knowledge of the audience backs that up then it would of course happen. I think not only have the characters evolved and changed but also so has the audience over the years which explains any decision to shift the focus when it comes to stories. If Sheldon and Shamy are getting more focus then there will be a logical reason for it, these are very smart people here who like I said know the show, its audience and its competition.
    4 points
  35. I have nothing againgst Shamy. I diddn't mind their dynamic like in Season 4. But theirs a saying "Too much of a good thing". I think the show ended up milking the character of Sheldon for its worth until it was sucked dry. Amy and Mayim just happens to be Sheldons other half. So she shares the bulk of that screen time. But it has not been The Big Bang Theory in about six seasons now. Since 7x24. IT has been more a dissapointing sequel. "Sheldon Cooper's Adventures and his Friends". But that is just my perspective. And that is not to say I want it to be the Lenny show either. I just think the show worked best when it was more friendship dynamic based. And more group episodes. Either some say it is now a Family Based Sitcom. OR it is couples comedy. I still love the characters. So that is prob why I am still invested. As I have been watching since 2008.
    4 points
  36. I'm actually buzzing after reading this TR !!! From the fantastic @RJ1013 - thanks so much again -sounds like such an amazing Shamy episode -my wee Shamy heart is feeling full right now ! Shamy kiss x2 as well.....feeling very lucky ! ......now I'm wondering what the kiss was like .....sweet dreams for me tonight !!
    4 points
  37. Here’s the long summary. If you prefer lots of surprises, obviously skip this. Plenty of stuff is missing and/or may be mixed up. Some things are hard to describe, like Dr. Wolcott’s oddities and Amy’s reactions/physical comedy, so you’ll just have to wait and see on those aspects. I’ll post my own opinions and try to answer any questions anyone has sometime later, since I don’t have time now. “The Reclusive Potential” Main cast in 4A: Sheldon receives a letter from Dr. Wolcott, a fellow scientist whose work he is interested in since it may be vital to his string theory research. Wolcott is someone the guys are all aware of, and he has a reputation for being very weird. Amy wants Leonard to keep an eye on Sheldon so that he doesn’t have to go alone to meet the creepy man in his secluded cabin in the forest, and she can’t do so herself due to her scheduled bachelorette party weekend. Penny (possibly Bernadette?) wants Wolowitz to go and keep an eye on Leonard. Raj assumes he’ll be asked to keep an eye on Howard and the ladies quickly agree since they know he’ll otherwise insist on coming to the bachelorette party. Sheldon and Amy in bed 4B: Sheldon is concerned about Amy and her upcoming party. She does think things might get a bit wild, since it is Penny who has planned it. He reminds Amy to use protection. She’s not sure exactly what it is that he thinks she’ll be doing. He just wants her to be careful, and if they’re outside, he knows how easily her skin burns in the sun. Amy hugs him and thinks it’s sweet that he’s worried. All 4 guys in Leonard’s car: There’s some more discussion of Dr. Wolcott. Then Wolowitz (or Raj?) jokes that it’s going to be a weird bachelor party. Leonard tells them that Sheldon insisted on not having a bachelor party, and Sheldon explains that the traditional hedonistic aspects of such parties do not appeal to him. The girls going into 4A: Penny and Bernadette guide a blindfolded Amy into 4A and reveal the apartment filled with quilting supplies/sewing machine and tea to drink. Amy tries to act pleased/excited. Though it’s kind of obvious that she isn’t, the girls don’t seem to notice. The guys at Dr. Wolcott’s cabin: Wolcott is a suspicious man who lives alone and is solely focused on his theories. He is constantly worried that someone will try to steal his work. After opening his numerous door locks and questioning the presence of the other 3 guys, he lets them in and collects their phones. He shows them some notebooks with his work, which are written backwards and have the letters and numbers inverted. Sheldon thinks the guy is great. The girls in 4A: Amy is sewing a quilt piece on the sewing machine while Bernadette and Penny are having tea on the couch. After a short while, Amy stands up and says ‘what the hell?’ She seems hurt and asks the girls if they really think that she is this boring. They decide to take her out to a bar so that she can have the wild night of poor decision making that she was expecting. Bernadette recommends body shots off of hot guys’ chests. Amy is enthused. The girls at the bar: Amy asks what body shots actually are. When Penny explains it’s like taking a shot out of a guy’s belly button, Amy finds the idea unappealing. Cut to 12 minutes later at the bar: Amy is passed out slumped over in her seat with her face smooshed against the bar. Bernadette wonders if they should carry her home already. Penny decides they should stay and finish their drinks and food. The guys at Dr. Wolcott’s cabin: They are all impressed with Wolcott’s work and the extent of his productivity. Once again, someone makes a comment about Sheldon’s odd bachelor party, and when the topic of marriage comes up, Dr. Wolcott explains that he is also married. The guys ask if she is there, if she is alive, and if she is visible to other people. He explains that she lives in Munich and they have a long distance relationship. They send birthday cards once a year and otherwise focus entirely on their work. He recommends cutting out all outside distractions to Sheldon if he wants to succeed at his work. Intrigued, Sheldon says he had never considered a long distance marriage. Wolcott suggests dinner, either rabbit or squirrel, and asks if they can tell the difference. He leaves to go hunting. Once he’s gone, Leonard asks/tells Sheldon that he’s not really considering any of that, right? Sheldon says no, he is not, and sounds a bit surprised at his own quick and certain answer. Howard says that it makes sense because Sheldon has friends, a fiancée, a full life. Sheldon agrees with Wolowitz and says he’s ready to go home. He misses Amy and sees no reason to further tempt himself with some strange man’s alluring math. (2nd take, he misses Amy and his phone). Also, he is from Texas and can definitely tell the difference between rabbit and squirrel. The girls back to 4A: Amy startles awake from where she is passed out on the couch. She guesses what must’ve happened and says that she is ‘so lame’ for passing out at her own bachelorette party. The girls claim that Amy did a bunch of wild stuff first, and make up some stories about it, one of which involves her Riverdancing on the bar countertop. Amy seems embarrassed, yet pleased, and she believes them even though she doesn’t think she knows how to Riverdance. Still embarrassed, she asks about pictures, and they assure her they wouldn’t do that to her. She says they are good friends. Cut to a slideshow of pictures: passed out Amy at the bar, in the car, and on the couch with Penny and Bernadette posing with her. Back at the cabin: Dr. Wolcott discovers the guys have left. Then he wonders if they were ever there at all. Then he wonders if they are actually on their way over now, and decides to tidy up. It’s a train of thought that matches with his multiple time dimensions theory. Tag, Sheldon and Amy in 4B: Hungover Amy is buttering her toast when Sheldon comes in. He walks over to say hello and kisses her cheek. She asks about his trip, and he tells her it was of great help for his work. Then he asks her if she will still love him if she finds out that he isn’t the work-obsessed, hyper-focused genius that she thought he was. She says that she will, then asks if he will still love her if she’s not the straight-laced, buttoned-down quilting woman that he thinks she is. What if she’s really a Riverdancing wild woman? He agrees that he will love her anyway. They share a kiss. Then Sheldon asks if she even knows how to Riverdance. Amy gets up, they exchange weird flirty looks, and she demonstrates her Riverdance. Looking very interested, Sheldon insists that she not do that for any other man, and Amy looks proud of herself. -I can’t remember if the 2 Shamy kisses in the tag were in the first take because I was laughing so much at Amy’s Riverdance. I know that what’s above is accurate for at least the second take.
    4 points
  38. And that is up to them...I am a hard core believer that if you don't like the show any longer then don't watch it. If you like the show and it still gives you enjoyment then watch it. Your Shenny friends must see something that they like. I personally don't see anything remotely romantic between Sheldon and Penny and I never have. To each their own though. I gotta agree with you. Not sure how the ratings would be considered an embarrassment... http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/delayed-viewing-ratings-big-bang-theory-1202672447/ http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-thursday-march-8-2018/
    3 points
  39. You know it all depends on the climate, network, time slot, what is on the other channel. The highest rated episode in this series history was 7x02 The Deception Verification. Episode after Leonard returned. Predominantly a Lenny episode. IS that because of Leonard and Penny? Does that mean the show should revolve around them? Nope. It is all subjective. How do we know the test audience or majority of the audience want to see Shamy all the time. I go on social media and majority are over them dominating screen time. And want a more fair and balanced show. I mean unless we ask every single person of that 18 million watching every week what they want to see. I am not sure one can go out on a limb and say the show focus on Shamy because clearly the audience want that. I am not sure that is fact, just conjecture. I mean Season 3 was correct me If I am wrong the Highest Rated Season from this series in Demo. IT also happened to have great quality. Now of course the format is clearly working to still be bringing in these kinda numbers in its 11th season. But the point some are trying to make is. Quality and Quantity go hand in hand.
    3 points
  40. First bold...Really? What other shows are pulling their numbers? 11 years in it is still the #1 comedy on television. Second bold.. a different era as you pointed out yourself. Comparing TBBT ratings to Friends is a very weak argument (IMHO)
    3 points
  41. ^^^ I’m at least delighted to see our "Girl Sprouts" in action again.
    3 points
  42. This might just end up being my fave episode this season. They'd have to screw this up in the editing very badly for me to not love this. lol
    3 points
  43. Agree with you guys..this episode sounds wonderful!! The Shamy scenes sound amazing and I can't wait to see them....sweetness, hugs, kisses....bring them all on!!!!
    3 points
  44. Can't stop smiling...what a terrific episode this is going to be!
    3 points
  45. That is one of the things about 6.19. They were totally into each other. From early on walking up the stairs and talking about hosting a party, to the party itself where they are talking and really, really, really enjoying each other. They could have been alone the way they were talking with each other in that scene. You are correct in your comparison with 11.11. Again they are seemingly oblivious to what is going on around them. They are again enjoying just being together. Two wonderful moments. Thanks again @luminous . Nicely done!!!!
    3 points
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