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  1. 10 points
    “The Planetarium Collision” – When Amy doesn’t have time to work on super-asymmetry, Sheldon goes to great lengths to ensure she’s available to work with him even it if means accidentally sabotaging her career in the process. Also, Koothrappali doesn’t want Wolowitz to join him in hosting a show at the planetarium, on THE BIG BANG THEORY, Thursday, Oct. 18 (8:00-8:31 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Emmy Award winner Bob Newhart returns as Arthur Jeffries. CBS Press Express
  2. 9 points
    I'm just exhausted from these never-ending couple comparisons.
  3. 7 points
    I can actually live with the one off cheating bullshit more than the long running stupidity of the “he wore her down” line which yet again rears its ugly head in the next episode. As unrealistic and out of nowhere as it was, and as cruel it was to even have it as a Lenny plot, they at least dropped in a couple of hints in 6.24 and 7.01 that were seen as stupid one liners at the time but were made prophetic by the jerk writers two seasons later. “Leonard: Yeah. And I’m a little worried because things between us have been so great, and I’d hate to do anything that screws that up. Penny: Oh, sweetie, if you’re gonna screw things up, it’s gonna be while you’re here, not while you’re away.” “Penny: This is ridiculous. Why am I upset just because he’s off having a good time? Sheldon: Well, perhaps you’re obsessively picturing him engaged in drunken coitus with another woman. Is that it? Did I get it right?” They also set up Leonard as a slave to hormones with Plimpton and Latham and open to cheating with the Alice character. Not that this in any way suggests I think this was a plausible plot. It just wasn’t. But at least there was something to work with. The “wore her down” crap, on the other hand, is a contradiction of the sum of the show. He knocked her back in Season 1 in the Halloween episode, just simply suggested the season 1 finale date which she quickly accepted. This after him having sex with Leslie to show he wasn’t begging to be with her. He had another serious relationship with Leslie and then Stephanie to show Penny he wasn’t desperate to be her and then later lusts after Alicia. Penny is the one who makes the move in the shot lime neck kiss scene. Penny is the one hiding her feelings at the end of Season 2 and is the one who throws herself at him to start Season 3. It’s Penny who is desperate to make the sexual relationship work in episode 2. During that season, Leonard holds firm on the guitarist, upsets her over psychics but she forgives and relents not the other way around. Her doubts end the relationship, which he accepts and moves on with Plimpton and then far more seriously with Priya in Season 4. In Season 4, Leonard becomes very committed to Priya and it’s Penny portrayed as not being able to let go emotionally, hardly Leonard wearing her down as he’s coitusing Priya, unless moving on with your life is wearing someone down in the minds of the writers. In Season 5, his first move is on Alice, not Penny, which he openly discusses with Penny. The non date at the movies is strong willed Leonard not desperate to be back with you Leonard. Yes Leonard makes the move to reignite the relationship but his bug list shows his willingness to criticise without fear of losing her. Now if premature proposals and ILYs is wearing someone down, fine but they were both rejected so nah. Season 6 has more examples of Penny doubts rather than Leonard wearing her down and when she finally accepts her love for him that’s all her. Leonard takes all the pressure off in the Valentine episode and hands all responsibility for decisions on marriage to Penny which he sticks to til the end. In 7, he knocks back the drunk proposal, criticises her decision making and even when she finally proposes seriously in 7.23, he still asks if she’s sure. Pennys doubts continue into Season 8 and Leonard continues to put no pressure on. In the evil finale, it is again Penny who decides and even when the writers throw in the cheating BS, the opposite of wearing down, she decides she still wants to marry. If anything, it was Penny who wore Leonard down! He just waited until she accepted what she knew in her heart for so long. And I thought it was finally put to bed with the Penny drunk video on top of two beautiful wedding speeches. But no, here we are in the final season, 3 years into the marriage and we still get the “wore her down” line. Poor writing. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
  4. 6 points
    SHELDON SEES HIS CHILDHOOD BEST FRIEND, TAM, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 20 YEARS, ON “THE BIG BANG THEORY,” THURSDAY, OCT. 11 Jerry O’Connell Returns as Sheldon’s Older Brother, George “The Tam Turbulence” – When Sheldon won’t tell anyone why he’s never mentioned Tam (Robert Wu), his childhood best friend, Leonard takes matters into his own hands. Also, Bernadette and Penny take out Raj’s fiancée, Anu (Rati Gupta), for dinner to get the skinny on her, on THE BIG BANG THEORY, Thursday, Oct. 11 (8:00-8:31 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Jerry O’Connell returns as Sheldon’s brother, George.
  5. 6 points
    Add to that that about 3 years ago she said she did want kids. This is what happens when the writers never plan and do not follow their own material, they just wing it. Works for jokes I guess, hurts other aspects. Yes. I never said everyone feels or should feel as I do. You quoted me and took what I said to a negative direction, so I explained my view, to explain that I wrote that as a positive.
  6. 6 points
    We do because most of bad or hard things have a reasonable reason or solution. So without stress is the key
  7. 6 points
    Neither Leonard or Penny really confront each other. The pity sex and the not wanting children is two examples of bringing a parent into a situation. Was it necessary to bring Beverley in the pity sex or apparently involving Wyatt into not having children discussion. In both it was there for a laugh. Some people think it would be wrong for Leonard bringing her dad in the situation but wasn’t it equally wrong for Penny to involve his mom?
  8. 6 points
    That is your way of seeing it. I see it as Leonard loving Penny so much that he would be willing to make a huge sacrifice to be with her. He'd rather be with her and not have kids than be with someone else and have kids with that woman.
  9. 6 points
    I felt it was desperation writing, they didn’t know what to write so they went with this to have something, it was a jump the shark moment, which does, to some extent, support your statement that it was the start of the decline in writing. Sometimes I feel that when the writers get stuck they throw in a Lenny conflict situation to try and save themselves from admitting they have no ideas. I find it hard to understand, with all the married couples shows that have been on TV, how the production staff could not bring a couple people in, who have experience writing married couple comedy, to write some of the parts after the couples started getting married.
  10. 6 points
    Yes, Penny is pretty spiritual. She believes in psychics, ghosts, astrology, voodoo. But not in crystals. Crystals don't work.
  11. 6 points
    I think the lower ratings last two weeks are a direct result of Shamy overkill. The wedding was last year time to move on. The first two storylines were so bleeping boring. If I here the word coitus one more time. It’s like hearing about people in a nursing home having sex. I’m glad I taped it so I could fast forward thru the nauseating parts. As to Stuart and Denise storyline being more interesting than anything else on the show that’s true. But that reflects more on the bad writing than anything else.
  12. 5 points
  13. 5 points
    I find it interesting though someone like Stuart mentioned that Lenny was the best couple he knew because they complimented each other. It seems to he had no bias like most on this forum do including myself. All I know is couples argue that’s part of life. You might see their happier times between them if the writers gave them more screen time
  14. 5 points
    Neither good sex happens only between pretty or hot people. Physical attraction has limited time as people get older and then the brain is the commander of sucessfull and long relationships.
  15. 5 points
    Exactly! It's been established that Amy saying smart things gets his motor running - and that's precisely what happened.
  16. 5 points
    disagree...he was turned on by her science talk.
  17. 5 points
    You would have to listen to them instead of fast forwarding through their scenes to understand that that yes he comprimises with Amy.
  18. 5 points
    Perfect @bfm ! To quote e.e. cummings (who has a birthday on October 14, a good reason to read some of his poetry!) "here is the root of the root and the bud of the bud and the sky of the sky of a tree called life...." Leonard carries it. He carries her heart in his heart.
  19. 4 points
    Indeed.Things just can't get any worse for Lenny after tptb ignored their engagement for a whole season! Ofcourse it can! [emoji849] Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
  20. 4 points
    Gee, another Shamy centric story. Guess Leonard is happy, Amy has become his target of insults and demeaning value!
  21. 4 points
    And here we go: I think that might have been the one they filmed last week? Would fit with the timing of the interview.
  22. 4 points
  23. 4 points
    A multitude of reasons as usual, certainly not one sole reason why the drop.
  24. 4 points
    Agree the writing for Lenny started to decline with this season 8 finale. Although, I have to say this was not the worst season finale. Season 4 finale with Raj and Penny had to be the worst in the series. I don't think anyone liked it, viewers, critics and cast stated their displeasure. There even were near fights with the writers about this storyline. But I think these writers are so comfortable in their positions (well not any more) that they cannot come up with good storylines for Lenny......only for Sheldon/Shamy. Could not agree more. And they had to squeeze the Shamy plot into the Season 9 premiere and couldn't have Penny and Leonard enjoy their wedding and not have anyone else enjoy it either.
  25. 4 points
    Actually, I think they had a great time fooling Sheldon & Amy with the wedding gift. On screen they enjoyed seeing them perplexed by the gift. I imagine that off screen when they were deciding on giving them the gift, they had a great time as well. Often, when they are united with anti-Sheldon sentiments, they (lately anyway) are quite in-tune.....
  26. 4 points
    Will, I agree with this part. My great-grandparents had 6 children but they did not have a happy marriage (my great-grandfather was abusive and cheated a lot) and eventually divorced. In older married couples especially (after 40) who have been married for 20+ years sex is not the most important thing to them. Marriage after that point is more about companionship, strong bond, mutual respect and health, mature love that is if it a good marriage
  27. 4 points
  28. 4 points
    Sex is not the only thing that keeps a relationship interesting...you need more then sex to keep a relationship going. Having sex every night does not necessarily make a better relationship then those who have sex less often. Sheldon and Amy have a bond that goes beyond sex. They have a ton of mutual interests. A strong love of science, making up wacky games, such as going on scavenger hunts. Open communication. All very important to a successful relationship. They make effort to compromise with eachother. I would hate being in a relationship where you have nothing in common except sex.
  29. 4 points
  30. 4 points
    Just saw the sneak peeks. They seem to be really trying to stress the point that Lenny "have nothing in common" (have many differences) and bring up the question of whether they should be with each other or are wasting their time. What I hope will be the suggest conclusion though, in this and/or future episodes, is that it's not all about having many simalirities and the same goals. Of course that is very important in many cases, but I think they can show with Lenny that there can be people who make it work (although I hope the conclusion won't be no kids and think they could have done this without OOC writing, continuity problems and "he wore her down" jokes). On the contrary, in Raj's case it may be that two people seem to fit wonderfully "on paper" but it doesn't really work (I once dated a guy who seemed good "on paper" and texting went great but when we met there was zero romantic chemistry, nothing more than friendly atmosphere). Shany represent the ones who fit greatly "on paper" and work out (well, after a long ride). After all, unless they cut it, we will have Lenny riding "into the sunset" in the Batmobile at the end of the episode. I am very upset by the writers about this issue, but I'd at least take the small things they're giving.
  31. 4 points
    This Raj test thing sounds similar to who’s a better couple episode between Lenny and Shamy. My guess is Penny takes the test stating she doesn’t want kids with no regard to Leonard. It is like the episode when Penny quits TCF to concentrate on acting. In that case he pretends to agree with Penny quitting and is relieved that Penny went back later assuming she was getting her job back. Seems like something similar to this episode.
  32. 4 points
    Prior to Episode 8.24, I scoffed at TPTB saying they don't really plan ahead when writing/creating episodes. I didn't buy it. That changed here. What they wanted to do (I think) was to have four plates spinning in the air at the same time. They created the Shamy breakup; Raj and Emily teetering on the edge of ending their relationship; and Howard and Bernadette asking Stuart to leave their house and live on his own. That left Leonard and Penny. "What can we do with Leonard and Penny that would be a great season ender?" I think was the question around the writer's table....."I know! I know! What if we have them ready to elope and Leonard tells Penny he had an affair while he was away on the Hawking expidition to the North Sea??" "What expidition?" "You know, when Leonard was away for about 4 months?" "Ohhhhh.....You mean when Sheldon and Penny had all that wonderful bonding time between seasons 6 and 7?" "Yeah! Yeah! What if Leonard was, you know, doing the 'horizontal shuffle' with some coed assistant while he was away?" "Wow! Great idea! But doesn't that go a little far? I mean, wouldn't the fanbase hate us?" "Okay. How about he made-out with someone? Penny could be totally freaked out!!!" "Great! Leonard can even ask if that ever happen with her and Penny can fully deny it! Oh boy! This is GREAT!" I will never forgive or forget this. (I remember the words of someone out of the taping in the chatroom letting us know briefly what happened: "Leonard cheated"). Ughhhhh....
  33. 4 points
  34. 4 points
    The show shifted from watching weird single nerds to more relationship centric storylines (Lenny, Howardette). I think, adding Amy was a good move, that could have allowed "social-retarded" Sheldon to keep up with the other characters as their stories moved forward. At this time, the original Amy characterization as a female version of Sheldon was perfect. Two people like that, engaging in a completely non-sexual relationship as a means of meeting social customs would have been perfect. Instead, they refitted Amy, who immediately began pressuring Sheldon to change. Now I feel that Sheldon's "growth" was really a slap in the face for his character, and possibly for many people who, let me put it this way, are a little "different". So at the end Sheldon’s “growth” became about Amy “fixing” him by showing, that all of these things he was never interested in were key aspects that were missing from his life all along. This whole development took place increasingly at the expense of Leonard and Penny. Their development remained rather vague to this day or invited speculation (off-screen). At least I could hardly recognize any remarkable stories (on-screen). Sheldon on the other hand was chosen as the celebrated cash cow and therefor lost all his credibility and esprit for ME (unfortunately also in connection with Amy). The result is, stand now, just an ordinary soap for Me.
  35. 4 points
    It reminds me of watching two people’s sex life at a retirement home, come on them just having sex once a year, on Amy’s birthday, sounds exactly like two 70-year olds. Even the writers agree, you don’t see them writing scenes of Sheldon and Amy in a sex dungeon do you. I actually think they reduced the romance between Lenny to prevent the glaring obvious situation with Shamy that their marriage is boring, which makes Sheldon less interesting and does not support the theme of the Sheldon Show.
  36. 4 points
    If that is what happened then I fully agree with you. That would be a really shitty thing for Leonard to do and a big mistake on his part.
  37. 3 points
  38. 3 points
    Viewership of broadcast TV is down across the board. It's not just TBBT.
  39. 3 points
    The storyline has been beaten the death. Nobody cares about their sexual escapades. Thinking about is quite nauseating especially after lunch. Writers need to write that puts Shamy in the background for the rest of season 12.
  40. 3 points
    I disagree. If both are happy with solution how is it a band aid solution? Sheldon has been very clear he is not an overly physical person. But they do have sex when it suits them both. Amy is good with Sheldon. She is very happy with him and thier compramise.
  41. 3 points
  42. 3 points
    So you literally have nothing to support your theory...
  43. 3 points
    The scene literally ends with him dragging Amy to their honeymoon suite on a whim. Not sure what more spontaneous he needs to be??? Also, yes, plenty of relationship/sex health advisors actually think scheduling sex is not a bad thing for a relationship. I kid you not.
  44. 3 points
    And another point as shown in episode 2 was that Sheldon still had to live by his scheduled lifestyle. Who the heck schedules sex on a to do list? Even though married Sheldon cannot discard his OCD tendencies. Which IMO, he still needs tending to as his Meemaw stated. Poor Amy!
  45. 3 points
    I hope she chooses to have kids on her own accord. Penny should not be forced/pressured in to having kids. It is ok if she decides she doesn't want them. People still lead happy, productive lives without them. It isn't end game for Lenny should they not have kids.
  46. 3 points
    And who can blame you? On this forum there've been complains about the lack of good Lenny stories for years and years now - and those are often coming from ppl who like the couple and can at least muster some interest from a few special moments every now and then. Anybody who doesn't even have that level of interest is more or less bored to tears at this point.
  47. 3 points
    Well, they've tried their best.
  48. 3 points
    We have yet to watch the episode, but I don't remember any hint in the TR that it was Leonard who involved Penny's father in the discussion about children; on the contrary he backed his wife up and defended her decision of not having children; the fact it is totally unbelievable to me he let it go so easily on something which was so important to him is a whole other story... I think it was one of those situations when parents push their children into giving them grandchildren ASAP, and Wyatt (without knowing it) chose the worst possible moment to make that request, as Penny and Leonard were actually discussing the exact opposite.
  49. 3 points
    Funny I find watching Shamy. Like watching paint dry.
  50. 3 points
    This is the last thing I want to see happen. I would like the decision for Lenny to have kids to be mutual, not Penny thrust into a pregnancy she didn't want or expect.
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