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When you talk about not having time together, you also have to look into the future. Karl's ranch, his source of income is in San Diego. He doesn't just ride, he, along with his business partner, also breeds and trains horses and he oversees the running of the ranch. That particular job requires him to be in San Diego for long stretches. It may be only a two hour drive, but that is each way. Each day, he'd be looking at a situation where he would be getting to their home north of LA, in time to get to bed. A situation that would be like he wasn't there. Also, I'm not sure if anyone here has really noticed, but since last year, he has been on a rather lengthly streak of doing well in tournaments. He now has three horses that he competes with in the Grand Prix and FEI events. Continuing to do well, and moving into a higher bracket, possibly the Olympics, would require more training time, more time with the horses, more traveling, as most of the big events are on the east coast, in Kentucky and Tennessee, along with Florida, even while continuing to run the ranch. I know we follow Kaley, and we know her career is really going well. But, as an executive producer, she'll be responsible for overseeing all the details of the productions. You add in her acting (we now hear she's shot an appearance on "Curb Your Enthusiasm" in addition to everything else), and she may have to work on those production details, for the next production, the same day she was acting in a current production. As a result of that, she's also not home because of the long hours and traveling. I think the triggering event could have been them sitting down looking for when they would have some time together, and realized that it wasn't going to happen in the near future, or even the far future, unless one or the other gave up their careers. And if neither one of them wanted to give up their careers, there may have been a realization that there was no reason to stay married. As far as kids, if they weren't willing to give up their careers, kids should be out of the question.

Kaley has a new rescued animal at her ranch, this time a baby rooster.

Not just hiatus time. The actors on the show would have to be in the building for ~26-34 hours a week (depending on how long a couple of things took (special costumes, pre-shoots, etc). And only about half that time was them being on set. That would give Kaley a lot of time to do work on other things versus the night and early morning shoots she is having to do these days. There's also a big time difference between being the executive producer and number one on the call sheet, versus being number three on the call sheet, in an ensemble. Add in the two weeks on, one week off schedule and there is a lot of free time for a sitcom actor.

I have to think that having that beautiful new home and everything, then finding yourself alone on your third anniversary had to be a eye opener for Kaley that their marriage was more like two ships passing each other in the night. So, just like Tensor said, they may have just discussed it, decided it wasn’t going to get any better and decided to end it.

Yeah, hard time believing this really means anything, when she still has the pictures from the wedding and the reception, along with multiple pictures of her kissing Karl still up. The last time, all but one or two, of Ryan, were gone before the filing was made public.

They are really throwing anything and everything against the wall in hopes of something sticking. First go-round was infidelity with (tall thin guy from SNL, who had problems with Ariana Grande-can’t think of his name—sheesh!!!) and then hints of running to Johnny G. Now a hate-a-thon where photos were removed from social media (false!) and contentious battles over property (false again!). It is more than apparent to me at least, that we have two people who despite a regard for each other cannot make their relationship work as they thought they could. I for one would rather watch several episodes of TBBT or The Flight Attendant and not pay attention to the circus created by the “entertainment” media…. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

From what i understood they kept their barns and horses separate. She has her Big Bay City stable and he has Pomponio Ranches. I believe Kaley has about nine horses she uses for jumping and I think Karl has many more than that as he breeds them as well

You’re right there, if her divorce from Ryan is any example, neither of them really ever offered much of any information, and that divorce was a little contentious. Anyway, like has been said before, it is her life and I do feel a little bad about my desire to know more about what happened.

I wonder if a “trigger” could be the way her career is taking off and changing. She is not only an actress but now a producer. She’s in charge of her own projects and for the most part that’s where her work is coming from (I know—the movie she just filmed in NYC and the Larry David show appearance as well as the Kevin Hart movie filming in Toronto soon are not Yes Norman productions). I think she is stepping back from her involvement with horses and will be all in on acting/producing. Perhaps Karl wasn’t happy with that and that could also be a reason for her to delay having children. We will probably never know and will just continue to speculate… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And, so, what does that matter, considering Kaley, nor Karl for that matter, have removed the wedding photos and videos that are on the IG accounts. Not to mention, the images of them kissing cuddling and acting silly together that are still on there? Or is this another big deal by "reliable" media?

That might actually be a bargain. There is another house on the same road as Johnny's, going for $50k a month. A couple more in the same area for 40-50k and one about a mile from his, going for 70k a month. All of these have 5-6 bedrooms and 6-7 baths. Oh, and a pool. He was in Tennessee when the lockdown started, in 2020. He can travel now, but I guess he just hasn't seen a need to leave. To be closer to his son, I would guess.

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A request for the return of "miscellaneous jewelry and other personal effects" can very often mean family heirlooms. If Karl had given her jewelry that belonged to the Cook family, it would be natural for him to ask for them back.

That made too much sense and the writers probably didn't think that was funny.

So it was September 24th 2007, 14 years ago this week. TBBT debuted. Leonard first met Penny

That possibly turned dark real quick at the end. For some reason, I can't help think about the turn the season four ending for TBBT had.

I totally agree. Raj has been a douche from the beginning. He also caused trouble between Howard and Bernadette, All his creepy dreams about Howard being hurt so he could be with Bernadette.

That episode cemented my opinion that Raj was an ass. I disliked the Penny/Raj drunken hook-up mostly because it served no purpose really but to learn that Raj was still using that non-event just to brag ( "I tell everybody ") made me mad even more so because we saw Penny and Raj have genuine frienship moments after that hookup and i was thinking it was nice they put that behind them, you know , water under the bridge. Regarding your last sentence , I think it would have weirded him out for a while but he would have moved on . After all, both Penny and Raj were single. My gut tells me he would have resented Raj more than Penny though.

I guess I wouldn’t expect someone to say that who is having an amicable divorce. I have to agree with you in that it sounds a little bitter.

I checked my file tonight and no, it was never referenced, except for the shirts.

I think she was being sarcastic but it does sound like she is kind of bitter.

I have heard her say that before

I had to read your joke at the end there twice to get it.

When Amy mentions being sent to the sin closet, my first reaction was to think her mother sounded like the mother in the Stephan King book/movie Carrie.

I believe she's committed to her career. She still rides her horses, but competitive riding has probably put on hold for the time being. I know she really loves riding her horses, but when she was married to Ryan, she loved playing tennis. That passion was put aside for her career. She probably still plays tennis, but that was put aside as is her competitive riding. Although, I believes she loves riding her horses over playing tennis.

For sure!

I have to agree with everything you say. Looking at it this way their explanation as to the divorce certainly holds true. It just seems to me that Kaley wanted someone with his own career and life so he would not be effected by her fame and success. It is very sad that she got what she wanted in Karl but still could not make it work. I guess they just could not come up with a compromise plan for their future.

I never thought about Karl's busy schedule other than his tournament competitions. So, your thoughts on the triggering events may very well be right. I guess it was easier to be married while she was Penny in TBBT. As most of her time was in LA.

Honestly, I think Kaley was cursed after she bought that kardashian house and moved her and Ryan into it. After being in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, And playing Penny, Kaley should have known curses are real.

From what I gathered Karl was gone in February for about six weeks and then in June for about another five to six weeks. Don't believe they were even together on their anniversary as they only traded IG messages. Then Karl came home around July 4 for a few days and then went back to Michigan. When he returned home for good around July 20 Kaley then prepared to go to NY to film the movie with Pete Davidson. So to say they did not spend alot of time together is an understatement. Guess this may not have been the trigger but it certainly was the catalyst.

Just a thought, but it seems to me that Kaley, and Karl, built that new home and I really feel that Kaley expected it to be their future home, but except for their COVID lockdown, did he really ever live there? It must have been a little weird for Kaley to keep coming home to a home with no husband, I just wonder if that may have happened one too many times.

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Well said Here are some quotes Kaley has said about her relationship and marriage to Karl which makes your theory on a trigger event seem plausible. Kaley stated that "she has to be with someone who really has their own life and career and is not emasculated by her fame and success" Guess she still was not happy because Karl was all of that "I know I don't need Karl for anything I am financially set and if Karl left me tomorrow I'd be fine and he knows it and he would be fine too" Seemed very prophetic After her divorce announcement she said "it wasn't right with Karl" She wanted something different and felt they were not on the same page for the future as Kaley wanted to go in a different direction and have different types of experiences. It became clear it wasn't going to work with Karl. Have no idea what her thinking was here Did she want an open marriage to meet other people? This sounds like it might have been building and whatever the trigger was brought it out The last quote I read seemed to be a contradiction of her life. Back in 2017 she had a party at her house and said "I am realizing the other night meant the world to me for so many reasons, but some of those reasons go deeper than anyone could ever know. I never thought I could find someone that looks at me the exact way i look at them. With 100% truth Karl you are my Prince Charming" A very telling indication of how she felt that was not fulfilled.

I agree with most of what you said and I don’t think Kaley gave up on Ryan, he had a history with drugs and he was having problems which she was trying to support, but unless you live with a drug addict you can’t understand the hell. Ryan’s taking off those couple days and disappearing appeared to be what broke Kaley, though you could say she could have still divorced him but still funded his rehab, we really don’t know what was going on between them or how bad it was. Anyway, I don’t see any parallel between Ryan and Karl, and like you said they seemed to be making their unique careers work, at least through their third wedding anniversary, that is why I believe there was some kind of triggering event, one thing that set this separation all in motion, because it was sudden and final it appears. Maybe it was about having kids, one of them found someone else because of their constant separation, maybe Kaley wanted him to completely move into the new house, it could have been almost any specific thing that made them step back and say this isn’t working, but I do think there was a single triggering event. I’m now just wondering if they can be around each other in the future without problems since they do go to a lot of the same horse shows, at least they did before they met and during their marriage, because Kaley has a passion for her horse riding, so it would be sad if she was restricted now in competition because of awkwardness of being at shows her EX is competing.

Yes See this is the thing If two people say they love each other as much as they said they did how can you not make it work. Every marriage has its bumps and bruises but you find a way to overcome those obstacles. You don't give up and divorce. I am a big fan of Kaley but she really is an enigma. Many people also said that she gave up on her first marriage to Ryan Sweeting as well. However, they did not live with him and his vices. Kaley has dozens of quotes where she gushes about Karl and that he is her perfect match. Then why give up and try to work things out?

Johnny knows how to behave so that no paparazzi finds him, so his movements are difficult to track.

I have also read that Kaley took affront to some of these items even though it was stipulated in the pre-nup. She assumed these items were gifts not on loan to her.

Such an item as the return of family heirlooms is indicated in the marriage contract. We are talking about jewelry donated during the marriage.

The jewelry part being specifically addressed in the divorce filings does sound sort of personal, but to put it in perspective, her $65,000 ring probably cost less than any one of the horses they bought while together. I wonder how they will split up the horses, does Kaley get the front half and Karl the hindquarters (LOL), because wouldn’t the horses be property acquired during their marriage, the jumping horses are valuable.

Sorry to hear this. Thank you for letting us know what the forum meant to him. Condolences to all his loved ones.

We'll see if it can live up to the old show. I'm hoping it's just as good. I loved that show!

Just read an article from OK magazine, a tabloid and not really an accurate source, but entertaining at least that Johnny has been calling Kaley for pep talks and advice/support after his break-up with Alaina Meyer. I would guess they truly are closer than they ever were as Kaley described. Suffice it to say the article also stated that Karl is ok with this as he knows the strong bond Kaley and Johnny have. Some other guys might not be so understanding but Karl seems to have a good handle on his life and trusts Kaley completely. Have to respect him for that.

Sheldon's inner child seems to come to the surface when he gets emotionally stressed. This time that was shown with the breakfast, the teddy bear, the problem with the revolving door and his reaction to the earth tremor. No wonder the guy tries to suppress emotion. Too much emotion changes him from a brilliant theoretician into Gilligan.

Another very good episode - the show has really been on a roll since it moved back to Thursdays, Loved the setup of Sheldon being worried about Leonard dieing during his nose surgery, while Leonard tried to reassure Sheldon that it was routine, minor surgery and there was nothing to worry about - there have been some nice Shelnard moments this season, and this episode had lots of them - Sheldon watching Leonard sleep, and then saying he would miss his snoring, meaning that he would miss Leonard if anything happened to him - "You are such a glass is half full kind of guy, I'm going to miss that" - Sheldon figuring out the public swimming pool ruse, and after learning that Leonard is having the surgery, demanding that Amy take him to the hospital, putting his fear of hospitals aside for his best friend - then during the earthquake and the lights go out in the hospital, Sheldon forgot all about his emergency preparedness drills and rushed to see if Leonard was ok, causing him to crash into the glass door in the funniest moment of the episode, and I liked the Leonard and Sheldon bickering on the couch afterwards - "I don't know what hurts more, my nose or my heart." - and finally the matching urns were Priceless "Here lye the ashes of Leonard Hofstadter, he thought he was right but his roommate knew better." and "I'm with stupid" - so sweet that Sheldon wanted to be buried with his best buddy - I know that Amy is right and eventually Sheldon will move on and Leonard and Sheldon will no longer be roommates, but when that day comes it will be a very sad day for me. I also liked the Raj/Howard/Bernadette part - the way Raj has talked about his parent's relationship the last couple years, it is not surprising that they got a divorce, but I miss the video chat scenes between Raj and his parents and hope this doesn't mean that they are gone for good - maybe either his father or mother could move to Pasadena - Howardette saying what they like about each other with devolved into what they didn't like about each other was funny, I too wonder if all the bickering between them this season was leading to trouble for the marriage, but I think whatever plans there might have been, might now change with the death of Carol Ann Susi, speaking of which, it was touching and classy for TBBT to pay tribute to her at the end of the episode, she will be missed.

The picture Penny took of the boys (that's going to be her Christmas card)....I'd love to see it on her refrigerator sometime in future episodes!

I enjoyed the episode a lot. It was a mix of touching sweetness with some comedy. I loved the Sheldon/Leonard plot. This episode further established for me what we learned last year. Leonard is really the only male person in his life that he truly has. And he has to appreciate him. And in Sheldon's way he was doing so by fearing the worst. The two of them on the couch was funny yet adorable. And the feelings between them are mutal. Loved that Leonard has the prom pic on his nightstand. And Penny was so relaxed in the situation about the surgery. Clearly an important element to balance out Sheldon's situation. And I appreciated her "he's all mine" and "I am going to spend the rest of my life with him"... It's nice to hear her vocalize it more. The Raj plot was very relatable. My best friend dealt with her parents splitting up as an adult child and it's still rough not matter how old you are. The cute banter in the car and hospital waiting room between Shamy (old married couple style) just confirms how connected they are and things are gravy post-ILYs. Now onto the Bernadette and Howard plot. I feel like this has been brewing this season slowly to cause tension for them. Let's face it, they are kinda in a rut. And while Lenny and Shamy are both clearly in good places, I think the others will hit some rough patches and get these two to appreciate each other more. Overall a sweet episode I thought. The ending with the tribute was very touching... No vanity card this week, the focus is where it belonged, in saluting amazing person!!

Season 8 Sheldon is a kinder, gentler Sheldon. He has been noticeably less condescending and more caring. Last week he told Amy he loved her, now he's loving Leonard to death. Is this because of the train trip? If so, I know a bunch of people I'd like to send on train trips.