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Occam's Chainsaw

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  1. From the little we know about Penny's family, we've heard she has a mom who smoked pot while she was pregnant with her, a sister who shot her husband, and a Walter White brother. So she really wasn't rebellious, as it sounds like she had few positive examples in the first place. Rather than defiant, I'd say she's someone who was bored out of her mind. If she had a upbringing more like Leonard's, I think she has the same potential as he did, but lacked the incentive to reach it until now. 

    Penny's brother is probably more Jessie Pinkman than Walter White, but other than that I agree with your assessment.

     

    How he is now, does not necessarily mean he and his wife were good parents then. He would have pretty much had to have know his wife was smoking pot while pregnant, (Hmmmmmm, he's a farmer, right? ;) ). Maybe Penny started when she found her parents stash. With a family history like that, Penny seems to have come out of it relatively unscathed. And maybe that is his motivation. Penny's relatively normal, compared to the rest of the family, and Leonard is the best shot any of his kids has.

    I don't think Wyatt was a bad father even back when Penny was growing up, clearly her other siblings got into some serious trouble, but as far as we know Penny was never into anything that bad. Add in that she was the middle child and she probably didn't get all that much attention because her parents had to deal with her brother and sister, so what trouble she did get in was more through a lack of guidance. This also explains why in S2 when Penny talks to Beverly it seems like her father wanted her to be a boy, the only way to get him to spend time on her was by doing something he would want to be involved in anyways, like Junior Rodeo or football. He never was disappointed in Penny for not being a boy, she just saw it that way since the only positive attention she got from him  was from doing guy things.

  2. Worse than those ones that like go into your toes?

     

    five-finger-shoe.jpg

    To be fair these shoes are only meant for running, they are designed to be easier on your feet as they approximate running barefoot without the worry of getting calluses or lacerations on your feet.

  3. What Penny did was not STUPID. She had a gap in her knowledge, which was aggravated by making plans with a real idiot and what was probably copious amounts of alcohol and she made a decision. If you know something Penny didn't and if you are completely sober of course you can see that it's a mistake, but Penny doesn't have that advantage.

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  4. I just thought of something, some people are treating the marriage of Penny and Zack as if it were a real marriage and make Leonard or Penny out as bad people for either sleeping with a married woman or cheating on her husband, but no one has said word one about home-wrecker Amy trying to sleep with her best friend's husband.

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  5. I think that people really need to consider something before they go all crazy about the taping report, and that is  Why the episode was made. And, no it was not just to have an  excuse to bring Zack back into the show they've done that before and could easily do it again without doing it this way. There is however a very significant storytelling reason for having the episode. Each episode is a story, but the show as a whole is also its own story and needs to be thought of as such. The storytellers created an internal conflict (Penny's commitment issues) which blocks the advancement of the protagonists toward their ultimate goal (Leonard and Penny getting married), since the conflict is internal and the storytelling style does not provide for internal dialogue any movement toward resolving the conflict has to be seen externally. Penny's commitment issues are psychological, but they are based on events from her past, so Penny dealing with her commitment issues is really Penny reconciling herself with her past. So this episode serves as Penny recognizing a mistake from her past that she needs to deal with, and more importantly recognizing that she is not the same person who made those mistakes, therefore she should not hold herself back from a happy future because of those mistakes. I think we really only need one more episode to completely deal with her commitment issues, and I'm pretty sure it will require bringing in Kurt (or some other ex who can represent all of her exes) to juxtapose him with Leonard so Penny can see that Leonard is nothing like Kurt and therefore any doubts she has about her future stemming from experiences with other boyfriends don't apply to her future with Leonard.

     

    Just my thoughts on all of that.

     

    Also, last night's episode was great and I don't think it was all that harsh on Penny, especially since she was really the only one that even cared about Raj's feelings.

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  6. This sounds like a great episode so far.  I love how mature Sheldon sounds in the car scene.  He has empathy for Leonard and understands not only THAT he's upset but WHY he's upset.  Sheldon must really love Leonard.  Awww!  They should hug.  :)

    Awwww, I think someone's had a few too many drinks. :)

  7. Well, unless the viewers are sitting around smoking pot.

    I'm game for that  :wink:.

     

    Honestly I don't get why some people are so upset with them "going back to old Penny" with this story, after all it was "old Penny" that made this mistake. Also I'm pretty sure that the idea is that Penny went to Vegas with Zack for Thanksgiving in S4 and the taping report may not be perfectly accurate on the lines. Considering that Penny may have been extremely drunk when it happened; in S4 she was drinking more than she ever had because of breaking up with Leonard, she was in Vegas, and she was spending Thanksgiving with someone even she thought was really stupid (Probably because she didn't want to spend the holiday alone, just like New Years), so she was quite probably wasted. If that was the only time she ever thought about Vegas wedding chapels the rational part of her brain probably didn't kick in to tell her that it might actually be real and if she hadn't really thought about the trip since then she wouldn't have stopped to consider whether it was real or not.

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  8. In my experience, when someone says "you're being too politically correct," what they're actually saying is "you're not letting me get away with saying whatever I want, no matter how offensive or disgusting or insulting it is."

    "Political Correctness" is the bane of Civil Society. The only purpose of "Political Correctness" is to use a person's inherent decency as a weapon against them. If I make a comment and you say it's sexist/racist/insensitive I apologize and stop talking about whatever I was talking about, because I don't want to be viewed as sexist/racist/insensitive. If a person who actually is sexist/racist/insensitive makes a comment that you say is sexist/racist/insensitive they don't really care since from their perspective it is perfectly acceptable to be sexist/racist/insensitive.

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  9. Well, I find it interesting that the "Frustrated Amy" joke was distinctive enough to get special mention in the report. I do agree that it is becoming a pretty recurrent joke, maybe they're laying the ground work for something big there (maybe an Amy ultimatum?)

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  10. Why do I get the feeling that if Leonard and Penny ever do have kids it won't exactly be planned.

     

    Penny looks at the pregnancy test in her hand only to see that the indicator displays 'positive'. "Ah, crap." she says before reaching for her glass of wine, only to stop and look at the glass  before setting it back down with out taking a drink "Ah, crap."

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  11. Even the egotistic, arrogant Sheldon is actually moving forward IMO faster then I thought they would have him go. However, they are doing it under the guise of his childishness so it isn't as noticible.

    Actually that kind of makes sense, if you accept that the more mature, arrogant Sheldon is just a mask then the only time you'd see any real growth would be when that mask is torn away and only the real Sheldon is left, and that Sheldon never grew up.

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  12. I would like to point out something, it is completely impossible to predict at any point how much longer a t.v. series has left before it ends. No one expected Star Trek TNG to go 7 seasons after the Original Series only lasted three seasons, Voyager probably could have gone 2+ more seasons if it weren't for the expense of filming new episodes, Enterprise was probably expected to go 7 seasons but it fell apart. Even tbbt was really only expecte to last 4ish seasons, but then they got a nice big renewal and they adapted the course of the show so it would go for the long haul (breaking up Leonard and Penny and introducing Amy and Bernadette as regulars). 14 years may be the record for a sitcom run, but part of that has more to do with actors burning out on a show after that long doing it than it does with viewer interest. If the cast and writers are willing to stick around and they can keep the quality where it is TBBT could easily go 14+ seasons.

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  13. There are several comments from her that indicate, in a funny way, her evil side. The crushing of micro-organisms in "The Closure Alternative", for instance, but the best one was in "The Engagement Reaction" when she said she couldn't be friends with Howard if they broke up and when asked why, she said, "I'm a very vengeful person, with access to weaponized smallpox." That sounds like a pretty funny evil to me.

    Yep, Bernie, like Sheldon, is one lab accident away from being a super-villain. Until then though she's just a cute quirky blonde.

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  14. How about this, Penny asks Leonard if he was serious about her being the one to propose Leonard takes it to mean she's ready to get engaged but he really wants to be the one to propose so his answer is kind of vague, but Penny is asking because she doesn't want to go to the trouble of setting something up if he wasn't serious about it. Penny and Leonard both begin planning the perfect proposal, but by going to others for help they both accidentally reveal that they are planning to propose to each other and the whole thing turns into a race of who can complete their plan first and propose.

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