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  1. Evidently they did different covers. I noticed magazines are doing that more often. Makes it hard to get the one you want sometimes. LOL! She was so happy to be able to do this layout. The photos are really lovely of her.

    Yeah, most magazine spreads I've seen only have one or two photos I really like, but these are all beautiful. She is annoyingly photogenic.

  2. I keep thinking back to the season 3 episode about the musician staying with Penny and how Sheldon told Penny that Leonard thought she was over sensitive, getting mad too easily. This last episode seems to tell me Penny's anger is still at the season 3 level, and Leonard has adjusted more to it.

    Not really. I think Penny's anger levels are relatively normal.

  3. Please give me one example where Penny stole L/S food, WIFI or anything else. Leonard willingly paid for her food and he helped her use the WIFI. Even when she BORROWED money from Sheldon she paid him back and was upset about it until she did. As for the dress, she purchased it for interviews. Funny how Bernie is always saying how much more money she has yet is upset about a cheap luncheon bill to the point of bringing up the dress. Bernie is the bad one if there really is a bad one, which there isn't.

    Agreed. When I was younger I'd have to pay a friend's way all the time and I never brought it up, because I understood that she was in a tight spot. Either do it gladly or not at all, because bitching about only reveals how low class she is, regardless of her high SES.

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  4. I'm not reading reports but if Penny bought something with Leonard's money for Leonard then they have a joint account! That is what happens when you are sharing unconditionally. And my wife bought me this damn iPad, from the joint account, because I was too parsimonious to spend the money on myself so it's fine that Penny do something similar. Leonard would probably go without otherwise.

    I'm sort of enjoying the ambiguity of not reading, and going off the reactions it's still not actively bad -just not centre stage.

    But I insist that we have the right to hyperventilate @martinpollard. You have a choice too about how to respond to it. :)


    She took cash out of his wallet, which is rather unfortunate a reflection on her. But he did get rather pissy at Valentine's Day when she didn't spend as much money on him, so perhaps she was in a bind. Not impressed with this episode overall, and it further demonstrated how miserable a character Bernadette has become. All that money she brags about making yet she still can't afford class. 

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  5. Did she say "two"??? The writers were pretty vague  as to what she meant---just that she wasn't putting "this body" through   it three times...one, two or none????


    That's because it meant to be taken as a joke, not be indicative of any future plans that may or may not involve children. But these two are the only couple on the show that I would deem capable of raising children in a stable and loving environment. 

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  6. Anybody in California here? Hope the earthquake didn't shake y'all too much


    No, but I am stuck in a snowstorm in Virginia. Another one...

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  7. Oops¡ He just debunked his own story about him being rich.  He obviously is not used to this kind of live.

    Not necessarily, that house is a whole new level of wealth and luxury. He only said that he bought the BMW, as far as I know.  

  8. Let's be honest, Penny has had more casual encounters then any of the guys, don't forget that little formula that Sheldon came up with.   While we are being honest though, let's ask ourselves why?  Is it because the guys are more moral or Penny less so?  NO.  It's because Penny COULD.  If Penny had wanted to, she could bring home a different guy every night.  She's beautiful, while although at least Raj and Howard would have gladly slept with a different women every night, they just couldn't find that many women interested in participating.  I think that if you judge by how many times Penny could have but didn't, and how many times some of the guys wanted to but couldn't, Penny comes out ahead.


    The formula has been disproved more than once (it didn't acknowledge the four years she was with Kurt), not that it was ever worth putting stock into. It was coming from a guy who thinks his relationship with Amy is progressing at a rapid pace and finds the idea of sex "ridiculous and offputing". Howard also mentioned paying girls to sleep with him, so I'm sure his number is higher than hers. 

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  9. How bad of a waitress could she have been (Sheldon's constant complaints should NOT enter onto this). I don't recall her job at TCF being in jeopardy. If she was as bad as that, shouldn't she have been easy to replace?

    A little tired of the unending Penny bashing

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    Seriously, especially when it's the same old complaints day after day. And a lot of twisting and grasping at straws to make the arguments even remotely logical. 

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  10. Has it got her an acting gig? Nothing is wrong with occasional splurge if you can afford it.I think the fun times are over when you don't have money. I don't know about the elitist attitudes but you seemed to be always making excuse for her.. Penny has indirectly admitted she is lazy with her I get by because i'm cute. I understand it's hard to get into but there a certain point when you have to plan in case it doesn't happen. What is Penny's plan? I know you don't like the idea of her depending on Leonard but it's hard to see any other way at this point. She really has nothing else to fall back on.


    Well, looks like her plan is to continue auditioning, as has been established multiple times. She hasn't moved in with Leonard or asked him for money, so she must be alright for the time being. Once her savings run out, based on the last episode, it sounds like she's willing to return to waitressing. I don't recall her ever declaring herself lazy, the cute comment was a response to her not carrying around cash. Using Zack, Luther, or Raj as evidence to her being lazy because she apparently could have been auditioning instead is a major stretch. Downright asinine. 

  11. Did that dress get her an acting gig?

    Considering how vital looks are to getting an audition, it very well could. Not that's there is anything wrong with the occasional splurge.


    But you're right, how dare that lowly waitress have any fun! 


    Zack happened at Thanksgiving and Raj in the middle of the night. So that's a weak argument. You are really looking for anything to condone these elitist attitudes. 

  12. I'm not one of them that suggested the proposed careers but again what can she do? When the car broke down her fall back decision was to get the "apeist" gig and when that fell through she was going back to TCF. The guys "equally stupid behavior" had nothing to do with them being men it's because they can afford to be stupid. Penny can't. Nobody is questioning the hard work in the service industry although Penny has admitted she's not a good waitress. Her plan in Hollywood was to be a movie star and if not then a tv star. The only other career option is to be a waitress. Obviously she doesn't want to waitress. Her current predicament isn't the guys fault. She had no plan when she came to Hollywood. Even with this latest apeist gig was she really in the position to say no? Everyone was upset with Leonard questioning her judgment but it seemed he was right.


    The examples given (Zack, Luther, Raj) didn't cost Penny any money, so it's not a matter of being able to "afford" stupidity. Bad decisions are bad decisions regardless of wealth, so that cannot be a justifiable excuse for Penny to be condemned so much more harshly than the guys. 

  13. The argument of Penny's drinking can go back and forth forever without a winner on this thread. IMO the real problem is her lack of success in acting. While the other six have gone to school and worked hard to do what they are doing. They have found a certain amount of success and probably will be doing what they are doing the rest of their lives. Penny on the other hand while working at the same job until this season has had no real success in acting. While most things that she has done has been long ago I think they have caused her situation. The rest of the groups "bad judgment" at times have been excusable simply because they have not really affected their lives. Sheldon's bad judgment while drinking before his speech didn't cause anything but a good laugh. All Penny's bad decisions including, drunk with Raj, getting married in Vegas, and hooking up with some guy at some hotel in itself isn't necessarily so bad. But when you've had no career success people are going to judge things differently. Even while Sheldon agreed with her about quitting her job he did point that you should put 100% into what you want to do. It seems obvious, even to Penny herself, that she didn't do this. If this had occurred all this drinking and her past history wouldn't be a topic on this thread.


    Translation, it's the ignorance and snobbery of the posters, not the character. Sexism and classism. I figured that one out when the proposed careers were as demeaning as hooker, stripper, and housewife. The guys have engaged in equally stupid behavior, but they're men and not a "lowly" waitress, so it doesn't matter. She is characterized as lazy because she doesn't have a doctorate when she has in fact worked in the often grueling service industry since she was 18. But she doesn't have a "passion", like the guys do television, so it's justified. 

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  14. The point was to support my point that Penny brought drinking to the group. Amy was not a drinker, Sheldon was not a drinker and Raj had not drunk enough to know hat it could help him talk to women. Her drinking has been on a different level than the others. After all they got their PhD's by hard work and study. During the time they were earning their degrees Penny was doing a lot of partying. This is a premise of TBBT.


    Bullshit. The only one who actively avoided alcohol beforehand was Sheldon, likely because he was already heavily exposed to it with his father. He made the choice to drink that night of his speech, Penny "talking him into it" by offering doesn't make her responsible for what happened. Amy had merely never been offered it by a friend, she had probably drank before in her 40 years of life. Raj just never had it in the presence of a woman, as we know that before Penny girls didn't hang out with them. 


    And please, spare us the long-term effects of heavy drinking. This is a sitcom, and as multiple poster have pointed out Penny would not be characterized as such.


    Your point that Penny was doing nothing but partying while they were off being honorable and earning their Ph.Ds is equally absurd. I've already pointed out that the guys have all engaged in plenty of casual sex, so it's possible they also did some drinking. Penny never struck me as a frat-level partier, she probably just went out on weekends the way most people her age did. She's always been on her own, so while they were in school, she was working and going to auditions. 


    Your also forgetting that penny gave Sheldon alcohol during the Will Wheaton extract episode, Sheldon didn't know it was alcohol though, I know it was for the audience to laugh at but its irresponsible


    Sheldon is a grown man at a bar, nothing irresponsible about giving him a drink. If he didn't know what was in a Long Island Iced Tea that is his own problem. 

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  15. Simply offering an adult friend a drink, if you don't know they are non-drinkers is not peer-pressure. That was Amy's interpretation and she seemed quite willing and happy to partake. She could have said no.


    I also seriously doubt Amy was "introduced" to alcohol by Penny considering the fact that she is nearly 40. While she may not have ever been given alcohol by a friend, all you have to do is walk into a restaurant that serves drinks to be offered some. She'd probably had a drink before, just not in that atmosphere. 

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  16. Penny definitely brought drinking into the group.


    To a group of people well over the age of 21? Big deal. Raj would still be whispering into Howard's ear in order to communicate. The others made the decision to drink on their own free will, way too old to claim peer pressure. 

    Zack's wasn't resolved in a few hours. it happened three years earlier. Most people do drink in Vegas and some do get married but most people don't believe their weddings are fake. Especially three years later. In regards to casual sex at hotels you must hang with a different crowd than me.Don't think the guys on TBBT have done that besides Howard. You can call her events in the past lapses of judgment. But it also seems quitting her job without a back up plan and maintaining her car are lapses in judgment but that is recent. I think at a certain point these lapses of judgment are just a lot of stupid things she has done in her past. Hopefully they won't happen in the future.. In regards to her drinking IMO 99 percent of people on here don't think she is an alcoholic. However her drinking has caused a lot of trouble for herself compared to the others.


    I sure as hell don't hang out with people who engage in casual sex (thanks for the assumption), but Penny does. Howard had more stories than Penny ever will, Raj had a few (Sailor Moon anyone?) and Leonard has had Leslie, Joyce, Priya (initially, Stephanie arguably began the same way), almost Alice, you get the point. They formed into relationships, but began with casual sex. I get that you hold them to a different standard because they're guys, but she's really no worse than them in that regard. 

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  17. do you have to use derogatory words for people you disagree with.Reasoned arguments would be preferable.


    I have, yet they keep beating the dead horse. Saying that the people who think she's an alcoholic are ignorant isn't derogatory, as those people are clearly very uninformed about the disease. I envy that naivete. 

  18. Penny really is an angel when you excuse away every single poor decision she has made. Penny and Leonard are both flawed characters. It doesn't make them any less lovable or deserving of each other. Most people can see that. There are a few who insist on holding one of them up on a pedestal and running down the other every chance they get. Quite sad really.


    Wasn't saying that she was an angel, I was refuting the idea that she was an alcoholic. The subject should have been put to rest ages ago, but ignoramuses keep popping up.  

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