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  1. I could accept is a reveal, I suppose, but it just wasn't believable. If the spark had been dwindling, Penny would be the type to insist they do something to bring back that chemistry (like, perhaps, a spa weekend). If Leonard has become complacent, a better way for them to showcase that would be to have built a storyline around him backing out of the spa weekend to do something with the guys, not realizing it was that important to her (though they did that storyline with Shamy in S5). The way it came about wasn't believable, and frankly the one I just cooked up isn't that much better, so I chalk this all up to bad writing. 

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  2. I have an inquiry.  If Leonard has such a high IQ (I know it's not as high as Sheldon's but it's in mensa range if I'm not mistaken) then why would he have so many student loans?  Wouldn't he have gotten scholarships to Princeton.  And what about his parents paying for some or all of his schooling?  Or was that just for his brother and sister.  Just curious...

    Yeah, not to mention his parents were both Princeton faculty. I don't know how it works in Ivy League, but my cousin's wife attended college for free at a smaller but well regarded private university where both her parents taught. I'd imagine Leonard got at least some of those benefits. His parents also seem pretty well off, and while they obviously aren't loving they hold education in the highest regard, and likely would not hesitate to pay for college. In fact, they were likely the kind of people that sent their children to private Ivy League prep schools from the time they were young. 

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  3. Recently rewatched an episode from S5 where Howard agreed to stay home with any children he and Bernadette have. While I didn't find it egregious at the time, I couldn't help but think how awful that'd be with the Bernadette we see now. She'd definitely use her role as the sole breadwinner to manipulate, berate, and humiliate Howard, more than she does now. I've seen the type, and she's it. 

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  4. Heck, you need an actual marriage license in order for a union to be recognized, the ceremony itself just doesn't cut it. I like to believe that they never signed a license, which isn't a stretch considering the drunken state they were in. The annulment was just for the sake of comedy, as accidental marriage is a very popular sitcom trope. 

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  5. I know that Penny has never used it against Leonard, but I hated the Wil Wheaton episode where se told Leonard that she had people ( or a guy, I think she said) because I find that unrealistic. What I hated about that episode too, was that Leonard was way too whiny.


    How so? Not criticizing, just wondering. When she said she had a guy, as in a financial advisor of sorts, I didn't find that hard to believe. My dad is in that field and he's had clients from all different income brackets. 


    I agree with you regarding Leonard in that episode. 

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  6. I can't stand the fact that Bernadette uses the fact that she makes more to verbally abuse Howard, but I'm in the small minority in that I liked how it was used with Leonard and Penny. IIRC, it wasn't even brought up until someone else mentioned it, which said to me that she saw it as a non-issue, not worth discussing and certainly not worth using as a power source. 

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  7. Yeah, something that has been annoying me about a lot of different shows, not just this one, is the way they stall romantic relationships for the sake of having "storylines" for the later seasons. It's why I tend to prefer shows that begin with a set number of seasons and clear outline for the course of the story. Realistically, Leonard and Penny would have gotten married at the end of S6/start of S7. Penny's fear of commitment might have been said verbally, but it wasn't really shown. The first two proposals had some pretty obvious reasons to be turned down and it's not that uncommon for one partner to say they love them before the other is ready, especially when they hadn't been dating for very long. Plus, she entered the pilot as a 21-year-old who just got out of a four year relationship, with a man she uprooted her entire life in Nebraska with. So, yeah, that didn't feel like a real character trait, just a stalling tactic and a lousy one at that. 


    Anywho, I've been thinking about the Vegas wedding, and have a question for my fellow Lenny fans (all in the spirit of fun).


    Would you rather these circumstances?


    Spur the moment, just the two of them, unresolved issues. Basically, the finale canon. 


    Or these? 


    In a church, all their family and friends, Leonard grinning like mad, Penny with long hair and carrying a set of quadruplets, perhaps uncomfortable that she hasn't broken the family tradition of pregnancy before marriage. 

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  8. I agree Simon/Howard is the best comedian on the show, hands down. Even his co-stars say that. But I find there has been a shift in popularity in shows now, the anti-hero seems more popular now, people like Jax in SOA, Walter in Breaking Bad, Sheldon in TBBT, and shows like Shameless, Californication, exc..., all promote the criminal or asshole and viewers love them.


    I don't know if Sheldon would fit the trope of the anti-hero, we're talking about a sitcom here and the shows you mentioned are more gritty and dramatic. But you certainly have a point, Sheldon is more of a caricature than a character, and such characters are often very popular with audiences and easier for writers to create material for. They also become over the top very easily. Classic examples of this is Kramer from Seinfeld, Eric from Boy Meets World, or even Dwight from The Office. 


    Agreed about Simon being the best comedian. 

  9. I think that Raj's interference with his sister's love life was creepy and unjustified.

    I agree, but I also thought it was nasty that Leonard and Priya took over Raj's apartment for their sexcapades. I wouldn't mind If my friend was dating one of my siblings, in fact I've tried more than a few times to make it a reality, but that doesn't mean I want ghost stuff happening in the house. I did feel bad that was happening to Raj, but with all his absurd behavior my sympathy shrank.

  10. Is that like once a smoker always a smoker or once an alcoholic always an alcoholic?


    Smoking and drinking are habits, rooted in dependency, while infidelity has more to do with a person's character. I don't necessarily believe that expression, it is still a false equivalency. 

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  11. I can, UNDER SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES.  Maybe it's easier for me, because I've seen a couple that are just like L/P play out a scenario SIMILAR TO THIS (just switch the gender roles).  The only difference is she didn't keep it under wraps and told her bf after it happened.  Her boyfriend was upset but they were willing to get past it.  5 years later they are married, and his gf hasn't touched heavy liquor UNLESS her bf was in the vacinity.


    Yeah, this isn't a positive scenario or one that I want to see Leonard and Penny emulate. These two obviously went into the marriage without trust, he for her or her for herself. Not surprising, that's what infidelity does. Seems like he has to treat her like a child if she, as a grown adult, can't be in the vicinity of something as commonplace as alcohol without his supervision. 

  12. She did it in Leonard's bed. That made it personal to Leonard, and would hurt anyone who still had feelings for another person. I know how I would feel if someone I cared about did it in my bed with her latest squeeze? I'm just making the point that what Penny did was not just a single girl with a guy, she did it in Leonard's apartment in his bed, Sheldon even mentioned it next episode, so she hurt him just as much as he hurt her with the kiss. He forgave her quickly, we'll have to wait and see what she does in season 9.


    What's your point? They were only in Leonard's bed because he and Priya had taken over Raj's own home for their sexual escapades. And don't comparing it to the kiss. They were together for the kiss, she was single and he was with Priya for the Raj debacle. Simple as that. 

  13. ATOB: I usually enjoy your posts because on average they are very balanced, but I think your feminist stance is making you ne not objective. What I think Vasu is trying to point out is that in the show both Leonard and Penny have done the same thing, and that here in the forums it has not been frowned upon, or frowned upon equally, thus there not being gender inequality. Your comments about a fair and equal society do NOT apply as we are talking TBBT here. Society discriminates not only based on gender but also sexual orientation, religious beliefs, physical appearance, age, income level, education, skin color. The list is endless, but that's not TBBT.


    Except it hasn't been frowned upon equally, not by a longshot. You haven't been paying attention if you think it has. Leonard is still seen as a pure boy for all of his sexual adventures, while Penny is given misogynistic names. 

  14. Paranoia much? I dslike Priya, Emily. not overly fond of Amy, must be a misogynist. BTW not a fan of Sheldon and Raj either, must be a label for that.


    This has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote. Reread if you didn't catch my main point on double standards, it's very obvious. 

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  15. Why I don't want Lenny to get married in Vegas? Listen what Penny says about Vegas weddings.


    I actually know two couples who got married in Vegas and are still together. One go to my church, the other only had about $1500-$2000 to spend at that time and decided to buy plane tickets, some nice attire, and a hotel instead rather than try to make a wedding happen on such a small budget. Not something I'd want, just saying that not all couples live up to that stereotype. I for one would rather see something intimate with them than see Sheldon steal the spotlight by being annoying. 

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  16.  I think in this situation that's why Leonard gets a "pass". He doesn't have any hook ups at hotels, teenage pregnancy tests scares, sleeping with two brothers, or had his sex life on a blog.


    No, but as far as the number of hook-ups we've seen on screen Leonard wins by a landslide. He hated over half a dozen people while he and Penny were broken up, while Penny only dated Zach. He's a giant offender of the "bro code", sleeping with his friends crush and another friends sister, whom he initially had a meaningless fling with years before. He then cheated on said friend's sister. He also slept with a seventy-year-old woman, and Bernadette's friend just because he was bored. Now we find out he kissed someone else on the trip.  I like him, but I fail to see how he can do all this and be seen as an alter boy while Penny is called nasty names by the mostly male posters.


    Oh, wait, I understand now. Misogyny.   

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  17. Both cases were 100% stupidity. I agree that in Penny's case she was single and to that extent it was okay Although she did seem to remember more when Emily quizzed her about it especially the kissing and seeing each other naked. She however didn't black out and thought her wedding to Zack was fake. That was even more stupid.


    There are several fake chapels in Vegas, so I wasn't too outraged by that one. And if you wake up with no memory of all or some of the night before, you blacked out. Not sure how remembering scarce details changes that fact. The fact that Emily saw that as more of a reflection on Penny than the man she was dating was pretty pitiful, but that's another topic. Regardless, one of them was single, one of them was not. One gets a pass, since a little beer means you suddenly have no control over your actions,  the other has so-called Lenny fans calling the character misogynistic names. That's my issue, what Leonard did was forgivable. 

  18. Alcohol can assist in people doing stupid things sometimes.


    Good Lord I get so beyond sick of this excuse. Penny was 100% single and blacked out to the point of memory loss when Raj happened, and that's still used as some sort of moral equivalency and a strike against her character. 

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  19. I figured out. How Leonard and Howard can make more money than there wives.

    They invent something, get it patented. The money starts rolling in. Problem solved!

    What you all think of that idea?


    The way they could get more money is to go into the private sector rather than academia. I don't know if there's much of a chance for that in Leonard's field, but Howard could be making much more money as an engineer. 

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  20. What really bugs me about the whole thing was the line, she was a smoker I was feeling sea sick. It's makes me wonder if it's the reason why he stopped it. It really sound like that. :(

    Edit. Especially the seasick bit

    Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk


    It seemed like he was just rambling. I focus on unimportant details when I'm nervous about spitting something out. 

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