Jump to content


  • Posts

  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won


Everything posted by shamyyellow

  1. Agreed. A lady working on this episode wrote on Twitter that she'd be working with Jim and Mayim all week and it was a dream come true, so no matter what the elopement is all about, we definitely get Shamy. That and the Majim selfie at what looks like a movie theater. And the two glasses and bottle on Shamy's coffee table. Kind of exciting not to know everything.
  2. I think it's fairly obvious that the man who teased "did they or didn't they elope" meant Sheldon and Amy. They're the only main characters who are engaged. I'm not saying it isn't possible that Raj or another character would, but it's unlikely that a casual fan who attended a taping would use that as their teaser if it was a storyline nobody was familiar with or introduced to. Since we saw two wine glasses and a bottle on Shamy's coffee table and Amy's birthday is in the next episode (whether they mention it or not), I'd say it's even more likely. Also, he said "did they or didn't they?" and then "my lips are sealed". I'd bet money he would've given everything away if they actually went through with it and "didn't they" wouldn't have factored in unless they didn't. So my guess is they get drunk or carried away, opt to elope, and back out out the last minute. Or it's a dream.
  3. Do you think it's possible Young Sheldon might change that? I'm not really saying one way or another, but I do think it's possible (and believe I have seen it) that the audience/writers will be influenced by what they see from the prequel. They have highlighted the fact that Sheldon deeply loves his parents in a way I never really saw or took seriously on TBBT. I could see Sheldon eloping without his mother present messing up the emotional background they're trying to sell through stories of his childhood. Sadly, I think that makes it less likely he would even if it shouldn't factor in.
  4. You're right. It's about an episode too early, but with everything I've seen and heard being Shamy-centric, that's my guess. As far as who cares about Amy's birthday... it's a bigger deal because of the once-a-year coitus agreement and Halley's 1st birthday. I know they broke that agreement late in S10, but it's never been brought up again so we don't know if it's still a thing.
  5. For triggering Sheldon's proposal, I'm guessing.
  6. Thank you so much, @Kev0821! I truly appreciate the time you took to fill us in. I know how nerve-wrecking and hard it can be to remember everything. You did an amazing job!
  7. Wait... that was the end of the episode?
  8. I'm seeing more details about Howardette than I am about Shamy.
  9. I wonder why they needed to announce that. It's not like they fill the audience in on what's coming next week on the regular. Does the time jump happen at the end of the first episode or have some relevance to what was taped tonight?
  10. I'm actually surprised they wrote it in. Now they're going to have 2 invisible kids?
  11. Yep. Unless it's for a dream sequence, it looks like she said yes.
  12. Is it possible that you and other's might be missing the disses about Sheldon while focusing on all the negativity thrown at Leonard? The first words Leonard spoke in the finale were a diss about Sheldon and what a pain in the ass he's been since Amy left. The guys talked about him being stupid because he likes going to the train store and is particular about the medicine he buys. He's stupid and annoying because he likes to look at ladders. When he left to another table with Ramona, Howard said he was "lured away by a stranger with a candy bar." When they realized who Ramona was, Howard said she was around "before Sheldon hit puberty and grew man parts." He made Ramona laugh so according to Leonard, there had to be something wrong. In the next scene, Bernie almost gagged at the thought of Sheldon's "sexual appetite". In the scene after that, Sheldon retells a joke from Raj about wanting to hang himself while they were out together. In the next scene, the girls insinuated that he was too stupid to know better than to run out into traffic. Later in the episode, Raj says an attractive women would never be interested in Sheldon. The list goes on and on... I'm not taking away from the fact that the writers can do better with Lenny, but this particular complaint seems like selective hearing to me. Every character on this show is ridiculed for the sake of comedy and it's often at the expense of continuity or the well being of relationships. They called Amy unattractive about 17 times in the finale to build Ramona up. They called Sheldon stupid about the same amount to strength his naivety. They had Penny yell at Leonard so he would call Amy because then Sheldon could emphasize that naivety even more by seeing the problem with that, but not Ramona. I guess I just see that Sheldon/Shamy fans let it go while Leonard/Lenny fans don't because they're unhappy with the storylines and lack of progress they've been given. And no, I'm not saying that's unreasonable. I guess I'm just pointing out that the problem always comes back to Lenny being mistreated. Shamy is in a good place, so those jokes at his/their expense don't really bother us. If the writers would just fix Lenny and give their fans something more/better to focus on, this probably wouldn't even be a discussion.
  13. I feel like every season declines in the middle whereas the beginning and the end are almost always better. It makes sense that halfway through, they aren't starting a storyline or summing anything up so it gets a little iffy... but that's just my own personal opinion about quality, not ratings. I know this was a conversation a few weeks back, but there are so many reasons why ratings drop, especially since the way people watch television is constantly changing. It's not just people switching cable for iTunes, Amazon, and Netflix, it's the habits we are forming because of that. TBBT in general is increasingly hard to watch week by week in a world of streaming full seasons of hour long episodes. Personally, I can never tell if I like a season or not until I watch it all back to back. That makes me wonder how many people opt for that instead of week to week. Just a few years ago, it wasn't so easy to do it any other way. Now, if I'm not obsessed with a show, I'll just wait and watch it all at once after the season finale airs. Another huge reason ratings may or may not be what they used to is the lack of promotion. This year, there were zero visits to the set by the usual entertainment shows. They didn't hold any special events, they didn't do any panels, and there was little to no excitement coming from them to us. We saw promotion work rather nicely in S9 between the hype over Shamy coitus and the 200th episode. The only promotion this season got was from their official YouTube channel a day before and a few hours after the finale aired. Keep in mind that their channel has a total of 400K subscribers, which is a great example of how bad numbers aren't exact cut and dry. How does a show with 20M viewers have such a weak online following? There are a lot of answers but none of them have to do with the overall popularity of the show. However, the number of people that promo reached explains why it did nothing for them. With the last 3 seasons, we have seen ratings slip in March/April/May. I don't know why exactly, but they do. I truly believe the reasons I stated have at least something to do with it, but even the overall age of the show will have some impact over time. We live in the day and age of new everything all the time and what isn't placed right in front of our faces isn't always recognized or remembered. And I will admit that Lenny's constant fighting and bickering has definitely turned me off, so I can't really blame anyone else who hasn't enjoyed it much either. That isn't to blame Lenny for the decline, but to say the show was more cohesive when that wasn't the case. The people on this forum who are the least happy and threaten to quit watching the show are Lennies, so it makes sense their downfall is at least partly to blame for ratings going down.
  14. I think the whole point of sending Amy to Princeton "for the summer" was to bypass having very many episodes with her actually gone. Yes, they can film Skype scenes like they did with Howard in space, but he was up there for weeks, not months, and 3 episodes was a realistic amount of time spent with him gone. I imagine we will either see a flashback of what happened after Sheldon proposed or no time will have passed with a time jump soon to follow, but I'll be honest... both options sound weird. The flashback to the proposal sounds the most realistic and least confusing, but the picking up where we left off, I'm not sure. Will they just be on some major super-speed where 3 months pass in 3 episodes? The only way to bypass all of this is if Amy leaves Princeton, Sheldon stays in Princeton, or Sheldon visits her every weekend. There is no way they're going to limit Mayim's screen time to Skype sessions for 3 months worth of episodes. My money is on a flashback to the proposal in present time. It gives them time to change the sets a little more, move things along for Raj, and work out a lot of details for all of the couples so the show returns a bit refreshed.
  15. Exactly. I think it's genius that they brought in another female scientist who is not just beautiful and smart, but attentive to Sheldon in a way Amy usually is. We know from S2 and this episode that Ramona is willing and capable of teaching Sheldon new skills, cooking for him, being attentive to him, etc. Not only that, but she came during a time when Sheldon was missing Amy and craving all of those things most... which leads us to the fact that Sheldon really seemed to enjoy Ramona's company and friendship. To me, that is what makes this episode so profound. On paper, Ramona replaces Amy is a new and shiny way that should be more than enough for a man as scientific and clinical as Sheldon. So what does Amy have that Ramona doesn't? His heart. It's really that simple.
  16. Are you serious? One of my favorite scenes is in The Stag Convergence after Bernie learns how awful Howard used to be. The speech he gives Penny at the door about the man he used to be vs. the man she made him was wonderful. The Closet Reconfiguration was about the letter Howard's father wrote him and Howardette were very moving and fantastic in that. The song Howard writes for Bernie in The Romance Resonance was another favorite. All of the scenes involving Howard's mom dying in The Comic Book Store Regeneration, The Intimacy Acceleration, and The Leftover Thermalization were fantastic. And of course, all of the sweet scenes regarding Bernie's pregnancy/Halley's birth were incredibly moving. You mentioned the major stand-out of this season, but there were many others that make them my second favorite couple on the show. And that is the major issue here. It isn't that the writers can't write a married couple or that they're lazy when it comes to certain developments in every character. The issue is that they no longer put very much effort into writing Lenny. Shamy? Amazing. Howardette? Doing great! Lenny? Nope. Not good. It's a Lenny issue.
  17. Right? I don't understand how anybody thinks the writers are incapable of writing a fun married couple when Howardette have been married since S6 and are responsible for some of the sweetest moments on the show. I understand that this thought process stems from how poorly Lenny has developed, but the inability they have to write fun marriages is very specific to them.
  18. Right, I agree in theory. The problem I see with introducing bisexuality into Raj's storyline is the amount of time they will realistically spend on it and how many seasons are left to do it right. It took a season and a half for Sheldon to ask Amy to be his girlfriend, 4 seasons for him to kiss her, 5 seasons for him to say 'I love you', 6 seasons for them to have sex, and 7 season for them to live together/propose. They took the time and crafted this amazing evolution/love story... but they won't do that for Raj. They have been poking at Raj's "gay" side since the very beginning but have always emphasized that he's straight and very metro. There is just no way they can gracefully and believably convince this audience that Raj is bisexual after all this time, so it's better that they continue to "fix him" for the woman of his dreams. I always thought it would be wonderful if he fell for someone far more average and poor than his original standards would've imagined for himself. Something as simple as that would be a great storyline for Raj and suitable for the time they have left. I still have no idea why Isabella was a one episode girlfriend.
  19. Thanks @mirs1, but I'm not really sure how much I trust Molaro or that things won't change before S11 begins. Didn't he say before S10 that Sheldon and Amy would be attending a convention together? Perhaps that storyline went to Lenny for 10.06 (or I remember it wrong), but it's way too early for us to know what will happen and what won't. Once they get back to work and start pumping out episodes, I'll be more inclined to believe their intentions but things have a way of changing. I'm glad to hear that there are no set plans for Riki to return and that they plan on picking up where S10 ended, but my questions still stand because those intentions aren't set in stone. Not yet.
  20. I saw what you did, but I got something completely different out of it. Yes, Ramona was friendly to Amy and she acted very much like a friend more than anything else. However, since her only motives were that of the writers, I think that had more to do with justifying Sheldon's inability to correctly assess her intentions. She was brought in to have romantic feelings for Sheldon and challenge his relationship with Amy, but had she been too flirtatious or too vindictive, it would no longer be believable when Sheldon was oblivious to it. Since his innocence is the most important player in this game, they had no choice but to water down her intentions. I also think that's why a kiss was necessary since it was the only thing she did that really overstepped her bounds. I have to say, the writers certainly achieved a good balance. As someone who loves Sheldon and Amy, Ramona's actions were bold enough to make me flinch while also being innocent enough for me to justify. It was important for viewers to worry without becoming completely fed up and outraged. I know there are the sensitive few who will be anyway, but the majority seemed thrilled with how the episode ended and excited for S11. Job well done, I think!
  21. Mayim brought up a good point in her GN post: "I know that might sound silly and I respect Riki as an actor tremendously, but I can’t help but feel like something that was ‘mine’ was being imposed upon! We’ll see if that continues next season; I have no clue if it will!" I've considered that S11 will begin with the gang worried about where Sheldon is and I've wondered what Amy's answer will be (given the circumstances that got him there), but I never thought about Ramona's role in the long-term. With her working at Cal Tech now, there will need to be some resolution that explains her disappearance... if she does, in fact, disappear. I'm hoping and praying against it, but they could use her to stir things up for as long as they see necessary. I'd suggest that she'll disappear like Mandy did, but Ramona actually has feelings for Sheldon whereas Mandy didn't care about Leonard at all. Since I know the cast and crew love Riki, it is a bit worrisome that they'll choose to keep her around. Which also causes me to question time and how it will work in S11. Do they come back exactly where we left off? Do we get flashbacks? Do we only hear about what happened once Amy is back from Princeton? If they return where they left off, how do they time-jump past Amy's Summer at Princeton? Does that mean she has to quit the fellowship? How many answers are we really going to get if what happens after the proposal is only ever explained through conversations between the characters? So many questions and an entire summer to torture myself with even more.
  22. Or he could just be a straight, metrosexual man with a lot of issues to work out before he finds a woman that won't be turned off by him. I understand the speculation that Raj might be bisexual/might fair better with men, but in real life, you either are or you aren't. You can't just decide to be bisexual or gay because it didn't work out with women. I think it's insanely unrealistic that a guy like Raj would suddenly get along better (physically and emotionally) with a man when he's always wanted a healthy, loving relationship with a woman. Especially when his lust for women has often come first. Since the problem has never been that his sex life is horrible or that he just wasn't emotionally interested in the women he dated, it makes more sense for the writers to do what they've been doing all season: having him make a list of things about himself that need fixing so he can become a better person for whoever is out there for him. I personally want Raj to work on himself before finding the woman he's been dreaming of because since the very first season, that's what he's been looking for. I've asked myself if any of the problems Raj has had with keeping a women would've kept a man either... and the answer is no. They would've left him too. That said, if the writers do go for a storyline where Raj dates men, I hope (like other's have already stated) that they give us genuine answers and a story that makes sense of such a serious topic. Some straight men and women lie about being bisexual/gay. Gay men and women sometimes lie about being bisexual. Bisexual men and women sometimes lie about being straight/gay. It happens when you feel like who you are isn't what other people want you to be. If the writer's decide to go that way with Raj, it really would be best to be very careful in crafting that story instead of just throwing it out there for shits and giggles.
  23. I hate this argument so much. From the very first episode, a huge element of the show was Howard being girl-crazy, Raj not being able to talk to women but desperately wanting to be with one, and Leonard declaring that he would be with Penny one day. All of which happened while the guys went to work and did nerdy things in their free time. It wasn't until Sheldon became romantically involved with Amy that I saw the complaint of TBBT becoming a "relationship show". Are we giving him all the credit for why it wasn't before? He was the only one who didn't jump into bed with random women, go on dates, or dream of being in a long-term relationship with the girl across the hall. Why isn't it ok when Sheldon does it? This season alone was full of science and nerdy moments. E2 was about the guy's project and Bernie/Penny's job. E3 was about the guy's project. E6 was Penny and Leonard going to a nerdy convention. E8 was Amy/Sheldon doing a scientific experiment. E9 was all about Sheldon being jealous of Bert's scientific accomplishments and Howard's motorized Stephen Hawking toy. E10 was all about Sheldon and Leonard fighting over their nerdy stuff. E14 was all about an emotion detector prototype. E15 was all about the guy's project and trains. E17 was about comic con. E19 had Sheldon and Amy working on a quantum cognition experiment. E20 was about Sheldon losing info about the guy's project and Bernie going back to work. E22 showed them playing video games, juggling, walking on stilts, unicycling, playing with ventriloquist dummies... everything nerdy you can think of. E23 showed the guys lose their project and Amy getting a fellowship to Princeton. Yes, there is relationship stuff weaving in and out of every episode because Leonard and Penny are married, Howard and Bernadette are married, Sheldon lives with Amy, and Raj is always on the hunt for a girlfriend... just like S1-9. I know that they don't spend as much time together as a group because of their relationships, but I don't see how it's not comparable to S1. E1 set up the whole Leonard and Penny thing. E3 was Leonard and Penny going on a "date". E5 was Leonard hooking up with Leslie Winkle. E6 was Leonard and Penny's first kiss. E6 was all about Howard hooking up with Penny's friend. E8 was all about Raj being set up with a girl that Sheldon "steals" from him. E9-14 were had sprinklings of relationship dealings between Leonard and Penny. E15 was all about the guys hitting on Sheldon's sister. E16 was Penny throwing a party for Leonard and Howard hoping to hook up with her easy friends. E17 was all about Penny's breakup and agreeing to go out with Leonard. This show has always been about relationships. Always. And it still deals with work, science, and nerdy hobbies they all enjoy. A lot. I understand the argument that Shamy gets a lot of attention and Lenny has been poorly developed/written, but calling it a "relationship show" like that's anything new is just confusing.
  24. I loved, loved, loved the episode. Something that stood out to me was the way they reinforced Sheldon's decision to propose in the next episode. It seemed out of the blue to some, but I thought last night covered it beautifully and removed any doubt that it was already on his mind. Before she even tells him about Princeton, he says: "I don't know how I ever got by without you," "I've come to realize I'm completely dependent on you," and "to wake up every morning and know you're there is a great comfort to me." He also praised her cooking, wanted sex, and considered her well-being before his own. This man had marriage on the brain before she left. Ramona just emphasizes what he knew in this episode: he doesn't want to be away from Amy... til death do they part. Sigh. These two.
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.