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  1. Maybe the Lenny spinoff could just be flashbacks to all the off camera scenes they had from Season 8 onwards. We could watch all the conversations that resolved all the issues we never saw (..”and then Shamy barged in and we had to talk later”), all the fun things they did together we heard about but never saw so the Sheldon Show could blossom. It could be called The Untold Lenny![emoji12] ( insert sarcasm sign here). In reality I agree with dj and Chrismo, spinoffs are for the fifth wheels of a show or recurring characters( Raj, Stuart, Kripke, Bert, Wil Wheaton) not the main characters. We didn’t get Hawkeye in Crabapple Cove ( although there was a book - after the movie not the TV show), A Little Ditty about Sam and Diane, or Captain Cunningham & Sergeant Fonz. Their stories were told in the main show. Instead we got AfterMASH, Frasier and Joanie Loves Chachi, proving that there are more failed spinoffs than successes.( Frasier was an outlier that matched its parent show and could have been the same success as a different character with no connection to Cheers at all. Other than a few Diane appearances it really didn’t connect with Cheers and the radio show host was a new story to his role in Cheers). I don’t want a bad spin off to trash their legacy as one of the reasons BBT was the most popular sitcom of its era. Be content with syndication and DVD sets/downloads letting you reminisce.
  2. Nah, divorce won’t happen. The writers have a VERY different interpretation of how Lenny are going compared to us. They don’t see any issues with how they’re portrayed. They think they generally are happy and think it’s part of their job to throw some curve balls at them but behind it all they think Lenny are fine. Even if I think some of what Kaplan said is BS, the core of his comments is they want to be kind to the characters end story, even though they might screw up. Sure, in our minds , they’ve screwed up big time with Lenny over the years but they always eventually bring them back to the loving couple we love. (Despite the evidence against, they, especially Lorre, think they love all the characters, not just Shamy). With no more seasons to fix the screw up, I just don’t think they’ll go that far and end it all with divorce. That is TOO DARK! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  3. I wholeheartedly agree with Kaplan and Kaley about women having fulfilling lives without children. My complaint is with the writing of the story and the lateness of the plot coming in the final season, not with Penny’s decision. Lenny had a whole year of engagement and 2.5 years of serious dating to bring this topic up before marriage, just like Howard and Bernie did. It could have been properly discussed when the random moments baby discussion emerged rather than spending a season behind the kitchen island watching their friends. Leonard could have accepted it after serious thought just like Howard did. Every Lenny story and episode since could have been written exactly the same from the point of resolution, Season 8 would still have been billed as Season Hate by Lennies but for more important reasons and we wouldn’t be spending the final season wailing about how our dreams of Lenny babies have been cruelly ripped from our needy shipping lives. Instead, the writers throw it in as the finale of the Lenny story and everything else said by Kaplan in the above article comes across as vacuous,insincere BS. (It’s clear they read this forum though. What he said is literally what I have done for the last 6 years.) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  4. It+11?? LOL. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  5. I don’t look at it as just 1203. That was just the start. And that’s the thing. It was just the start. And it’s still going. 8.24 was ended very early on in Season 9 and had no long term effects. 1203 was the beginning of a life decision that is still unresolved and has continuing repercussions if left unchanged. The fact is was so casually introduced, ignored for a few episodes, escalated further by the sperm donor plot, ignored again then brought to a head with the last episode showing Leonard’s raw emotion and Penny being forced to admit she feels bad about it to her father ( but not to Leonard yet) makes it much worse than just the isolated event of 1203. Sure the actual 824 episode may have had a greater immediate impact because the BS kiss was given a greater focus in an individual Lenny scene but the overall impact of that episode pales into insignificance compared to the current situation. But...... your entitled to your opinion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  6. Disagree. Concocted boat kiss didn’t even stop Penny from still marrying Leonard as planned. Trauma was over in a few episodes and they moved on to a happy marriage, never to speak of it again Concocted “don’t want kids from Penny”, if left unchanged in remaining episodes ,destroys Leonard’s dream of being a Dad and leaves Penny with a permanent nagging sense of disappointing her husband and father despite what they’ve said, while watching Leonard live through seeing Sheldon!!!??! become a dad to constantly remind him of what he was denied. Yes that is being dramatic but it’s coming across that way for some fans, and if it was real life would be the obvious reality. A meaningless drunken kiss that led to nothing doesn’t come close to this story if left as it stands. For me, even the bowling alley breakup was worse than 8.24. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  7. Life imitates art. One of the teachers I work with came in today wearing the exact outfit Penny wore when Leonard told her about the Hawking trip in 6.24. The whole staff room said “how the hell did you know that?” I said “ Come on you know about me and my Penny thing!” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  8. Kareem is one of the greats of US basketball but in the context of Will Wheaton and him playing D&D with him it may be his appearance as the ridiculously tall copilot in the 80s movie comedy Airplane ( or as it was known in Australia and other places “Flying High”, one of my all time favourite stupid comedies). William Shatner was in the movie sequel. Both of their characters were called Murdock! http:// http://
  9. Had a lot of fun with Mark Sweet as the token Aussie in the audience when I went 2 years ago. We worked up quite a routine during a couple of breaks - made Mayim laugh. He makes the taping night a lot of fun. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  10. Forget the fans, that is a punch in the gut to Leonard - “Sheldon gets to be a Dad, not me?!?!WTF!?” And Penny? Just more guilt for not wanting kids while that emotionless robot in S4 she turned into a real girl gets to make her husband happy in ways she can’t bring herself to. I don’t care about the fans - we move on to new shows eventually - but the fictional characters I love? That sucks! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  11. Sheldon may have access to advanced “fast track” cloning techniques so that by the last episode Iain Armitage can play young Sheldon jnr II[emoji1787]. Or they go the Mork and Mindy path and reveal Sheldon really is an alien and they give birth to an adult child! Or he truly can replicate himself by eating too many dumplings, Pad Thai and spaghetti with little hot dogs! I’m jumping the Shark here, people! Going out with a Big Bang. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
  12. A lot of people watching Big Bang aren’t necessarily watching Young Sheldon so they don’t know YS proclaimed Shamy will have kids. So it’s no surprise they are throwing that in to the final few episodes. The Nobel plot is just a waiting game now so it would appear this is the next Shamy story to dominate the screen now that Lenny have had their A plot moment. Personally don’t see a need to ram a Shamy pregnancy story in when they’ve only just been married a few months but well Shamy rules! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  13. And so it begins! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  14. As someone who’s been to a taping, sometimes the experience of being there live sort of compels you to laugh. It went on for so long the absurdity of him making breakfast oblivious to the fact Leonard was on the couch and the unexpected nature of that much time passing without Sheldon uttering a sound elicited a response from the audience. When I look back at the episode I saw taped, I often wonder, why did I laugh at that? That’s wasn’t funny. But I just did. Possibly because others did. IDK. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  15. I think the hug was special because Penny has really understood the pain Leonard feels over her decision but that this time he really accepts it unlike in 1203 when he wasn’t convincing and she was sort of just relieved he sort of accepted it and she was gonna avoid the confrontation she’s doesn’t like to have. It may be the end of it and if it is, it is but I just liked it, big softy that I am, because they’re not hiding from the pain this decision creates. They understand each other and love each other more for it. Its not a parallel situation but it just reminds of their Season 3 breakup. They pretended to be OK with the first bowling alley fight and both pretended that the reason could be swept under the carpet but when Leonard pushed too hard and Penny snapped but hated that she hurt him. It shows a growth that this time Leonard didn’t push, Penny didn’t snap but she still realised that she has hurt him. 1203 was the sweeping it under the carpet but this episode they recognised the hurt both ways from both their actions (Leonard wanting to donate and Penny not wanting kids) and with the hug they were both saying “this time, I really mean it. It OK. Being with each other is more than enough.” I’m not as articulate as I usually am about this but I just loved what that hug showed. It’s just one of those beautiful Lenny moments this show throws at us every once in a while that just proves the bond they have despite the other shit they throw at them. It’s up there with the first ILY, the Poptart proposal, the valentines Romance Ninja, the box of Leonard memories, the Prom night dance, the car gift scene, the second wedding, this seasons Halloween episode. It just really had an impact on me this one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  16. That hug had a big impact on me. I felt for both of them and it gave me hope for a satisfying conclusion. Great Lenny episode for me but wish it was continuing next week instead of being put on hold again for a Dungeons and Dragons episode. Leonard has changed his mind - will Penny? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  17. Love how different everyone’s opinions are on this episode. Me - I thought it was consistently the funniest episode since Scavenger Vortex in Season 7. Clearly others disagree and it depends on your enjoyment of different comedy styles and whether you can ignore the stupidity of the premise of the plot ( I’ve been extremely critical of the Lenny plot ) but I laughed regularly during every scene and it’s been a LLOONNGG time since my wife has laughed throughout an episode. She even commented on it being the funniest for a long time. Anyway, I loved the Lenny plot. I loved Wyatt’s talk with Penny. I was emotional about both Leonard’s and Penny’s responses to Wyatt’s and Amy’s opinions and advice. I was impressed with Amy’s conversation with Leonard and how Sheldon contributed minimally. ( as an aside it seems there is a minimum number of minutes Jim Parsons must appear on screen written into his contract - surely the only reason for the minute of watching him make breakfast in silence). Zac and Marissa were cute, Zac at his stupid best. I found the Howardette plot funny. They weren’t needed in the Lenny plot - Shamy were enough - and they have to be there so it was a nice fluffy B plot with a good amount of playful snark and Raj comedy relief I said in the Lenny thread that I wished the writers followed this episode up with Lenny sharing what they opened up about with Amy/Wyatt with each other to continue the story, which I personally enjoyed tonight ( clearly others didn’t; that’s cool). That Lenny hug had a lot of unfinished business in it that made it obvious this is not over. It appears the writers are stretching this out until the end. I found this episode making me feel I can accept what ever ending they go with. I felt sympathy for BOTH Leonard and Penny tonight. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  18. Brilliant episode. The best I’ve seen since Season 7. And so much Lenny. Funny and heartwarming ( and a little heartbreaking). And the best performance by a guest in the show ever I think. Wyatt was sensational. Actually enjoyed Shamy’s talk and Penny and Wyatt’s talk both happening at the same time. Gave both Leonard and Penny a chance to open up, which may not have happened if they attempted it with each other. But now it’s out of their system, and after that hug ( oh that hug!) maybe they will finally talk it out. I only wished the writers watched this episode back, realised what an impact it made on the Lenny story - kudos to them it was brilliantly written - and fast tracked a follow up episode. Having said that, though, if the show ends with Penny still not wanting kids, this episode made me accept it. Kaley and Johnny ( and Keith ) were so good selling it. Penny feels so bad about how she feels but it seemed really genuine tonight talking to her Dad. I live in hope she finally delivers that emotion to Leonard. Conversely, Amy got Leonard to consider his true feelings too and his support of Penny in front of Wyatt was fabulous. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  19. As if at any time in the 12 years of this show, he could resist that and run off to sleep at Shamys house! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  20. Can you recall anything happening anywhere else in that apartment since Penny spoke to Sheldon in the bathroom at his birthday party and that time penny folded sheets and towels in their bedroom!?! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  21. Nah, they’d have to change the position of the fixed camera that’s been pointing at that island all these years if they started messing with the idea of scenes around an eight seater table! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  22. Clearly they haven’t revealed their ultimate final story for Lenny - a renovation of their kitchen that will be highlighted by the installation of a new kitchen island and a lifetime supply of bottled water for them to get out of the Refridgerator before they start their conversation. You heard it here first! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  23. I don’t think she’s dumb either but they’ve portrayed her that way in many episodes for the sake of a laugh. Same with drinking jokes even though Sheldon has probably been drunk more than her. When they aren’t trying to give Penny a meaty story for Kaley to work with, they go with “can’t even work out glue” or Sheldon making jokes about her sexual exploits. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  24. But Seinfeld never pretended to be anything other than a show about terrible people. It’s final episode was literally the revenge of all the people they mistreated. Friends and Big Bang have a veneer of niceness hiding some pretty crappy stereotyping, despite how much the writers and producers gush about how much they love the characters. e.g Penny is such a caring nurturing woman who loves her friends ( but she’s a alcoholic dumb blonde who slept around and bullied the uncool kids at school). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  25. Might be a bit more involved in a Lenny discussion than we think. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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