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  1. I would love for them to move in together, Blue Bernie!  Although I think that it should take at least a few episodes to get to that point.  Mid-season at least, because I don't think that even after his time away and all the things that have been revealed this season, that Sheldon would be ready to immediately jump into living with her.  But I definitely think it's a possibility now.  Fingers crossed!

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  2. Amy is my favorite character, so I understand the concern that she not just be left in the background with no focus on her own needs or progression.  But at this point, I'm not too worried.  I do wish they'd focus on her more, but I don't see her as a doormat currently like some other people do.  As has been pointed out, she sticks up for herself when she needs to, but at other times she lets things go, and I think that speaks more for her understanding of Sheldon than anything else.

     

    As for season 8, I'm no longer worried at all.  While there's drama of course, we need to remember that this is first and foremost a comedy.  I think a lot of us have focused on doom and gloom over the past couple of days when we discovered the finale wasn't what we were hoping for, but I think we've all established that this can turn into a fabulous season 8 for Shamy (arguably, even better than what any of us envisioned with an ILY or something at the finale because now Sheldon can hopefully come to better grips with his feelings and what he wants from this relationship, which really needs to happen with a character like him in order to fully embrace it all).  With all the build up and with Sheldon calling her at the end of the season, it doesn't look like the writers have a breakup planned.  I can see them starting off the season with some funny plots for Sheldon on the train, and keeping things mostly light-hearted.  But I do think that when he's back, it will be apparent how he's missed her, and like I said before, I think he's really going to try to move himself toward that place he knows he needs and wants to be with Amy.  It's just going to be a progression, as is realistic for him.  I really think the two of them are going to be just fine, both together and individually.  I do hope we'll get to see a bit more from Amy's perspective though next season.

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  3. You guys. Sheldon teared up. I watched the episode with my dad to cheer him up and even he pointed it out immediately. I read everybody commenting about Jim's acting and what a genius he was before I got a chance to watch it myself and I was not disappointed! This entire episode was amazing. It had moments that felt very real and emotional but it mixed well with the comedy we've come to expect. I can't say enough good things.

     

    Sheldon reacting to the psychic really hit me in the gut. It was perfect and a good lesson why I shouldn't jump to conclusions about episodes I haven't seen yet. The finale already sounds much more hopeful after seeing this and I find myself more and more sympathetic to Sheldon's problems. Feeling comfortable means a lot to my own well being. When life turns chaotic, I feel a lot like Sheldon looked while soaking in what the psychic had to say. I don't even think it's a matter of him being unwilling to let Amy into his life. It's a matter of how fast it's going (go ahead and laugh) and him not being ready. He wants to do it at his own pace by his own rules. I'm thinking about the moment in the finale when Sheldon mentions Penny living with them on a trial basis. I know it's funny and we can all laugh, but that is Sheldon finding a way to be ok with what's happening. He wants anything new to ease it's way into becoming his new normal while still relying on the comfort of old routines. It just so happens that life is throwing him a curve ball from every angle and he doesn't have time to adjust at his own pace anymore. Amy has been patient and kind, all while pushing him forward when absolutely necessary. He might not realize it (or want to understand it) yet, but she's the perfect person to have by his side right now.

     

    I've been discouraged reading certain people in certain threads discussing alternate boyfriends for Amy as if that's even an option. Along with some of Mayim's comments about Shamy not being what makes the show go round, it had me wondering if I was too close to these characters to see their eventual demise. Taking a step back while watching tonight just reassured me that Amy and Sheldon are meant to be. They just have to work through this together. I was mad at the writers for stripping Amy of any kind of real emotional response to Sheldon leaving after the horrible things he said in the finale, but now it almost feels like they've proven a point. Amy understands him enough to know why he said those things. She loves him enough to accept that stepping outside of his regularly schedule life is what he needs to move forward on his own terms. I don't feel like she's a doormat anymore. I feel like she recognizes that Sheldon has lost a lot recently and it's time for him to figure things out. I was going to say that she recognizes this isn't about her and I do believe that, but when Sheldon comes back around, Amy is going to be the answer. He knows it. She knows it. We know it.

     

    Oh, and yes. Gulping is definitely Sheldon's tell.

     

    I love everything about this, and couldn't have said it better myself!

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  4. Okay, I just had to come here and fangirl with everyone else.  So here goes:  AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!  :-D

     

    I adored the psychic scene.  And I agree with everyone who has said that the freakout makes SO much sense.  He was clearly affected by what she said, and I too saw the glisten in his eyes and the way the wheels of acknowledgement were really turning in his head.  His squeaky voice and the way he runs off is SO much a reaction of being forced to face a truth he doesn't want to acknowledge.  Then when I think about what he says to Amy in the finale, it totally all fits together.  I was right in my assumption--It's clear to me--he's THOUGHT about it.  And the truth scares him so he storms out.  Now I REALLY can't wait for season 8!

     

    And Mayim was adorable in the end scene.  I love that they kept Sheldon's gulp.  It's SO telling of what he's really thinking. 

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  5. I can picture an exchange of text messages between Amy and Sheldon, in the middle of night, few weeks after he left

     

    "Amy, I'm sorry, I hope you will be able to forgive me ..."

    "I can't. I don't know if I could. I'm sorry too."

    "Do you want to end our relationship?"

    "Do you want to, Sheldon?"

    "I asked first ..." "OK, no, I don't want to"

    "Me neither. But I don't know where we're going from here" "Are you coming back soon?"

    "I don't know"

    "OK, good night Sheldon"

    "Wait, there is something I know"

    "What is it?"

    "I miss you"

     

    I really like the chat scenario, and I agree IF something like that were to happen, it would probably be via Skype or something.  What I can see happening (or what I'd LIKE to see anyway) is Sheldon returns and is surprised to see his apartment looking the same, but then he realizes that some things are missing.  Leonard has moved in with Penny, and they decided to let Sheldon keep the apartment since he was going through so much change already.  But things don't feel quite the same for him being there alone.  After dropping his stuff off, he immediately goes to see Amy.  Amy is excited to see him, and they share a rather heated kiss (it can still be closed mouthed, but passionate).  Then Sheldon and Amy BOTH tell each other how much they've missed one another.  And at that point, Amy tells him that things need to change, and Sheldon informs her that he knows and he's come to some epiphanies while he's been gone, etc.  And then they talk.  We may not get to hear the conversation, but at the end of it, they have a mutual understanding and they've grown to a closer place again.  This is probably all my wishful thinking, but it's what I keep envisioning in my head.

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  6. The more I think about it, the more I realize that what really bothers me is not so much the events of the finale, but the uncertainty and suspense of what's going to happen next.  I hate not knowing and being left in the dark.  I'm far too impatient for that, and so many things are left up in the air with this plotline.  I know Sheldon will return, and it seems like he and Amy will still be a couple.  But I hate not knowing what the writers have planned and whether they'll follow through with all of these plot points they've opened up.  If I really think about it, I can kind of get why they didn't resolve things or give us the payoff in the finale.  They want to keep us in that suspense all through the break.  They want us to pine over this and wonder and, like I said in my other post, they want us to react.

    The thing is though, if they're going to set us up like this and get us all emotional, then they NEED to give us something next season.  An audience can only take so much before they decide investing in this isn't worth their time.  Just like how some of you here are already ready to throw in the towel.  I'm one of the few, it seems, who doesn't want the two of them to break up.  But I DO want growth.  I want Sheldon to remain Sheldon, but I want to see that he's been enlightened, even if only a tad.  I want to see that all of this time away to reflect on everything has given him a new perspective and that he's finally decided to take all the advice that's been hammered into him and acknowledge his true feelings for Amy and start really showing her in a meaningful way (and no, that doesn't mean sex.  I'd like them to get there eventually, but I think that's still a far ways off).  Deep down, he loves her, and to me, that really comes out in so many ways, even when he's snapping at her about their future.  As many of us have pointed out, it's those things that he knows are truths but that are scary to him that he lashes out about.  If he hadn't thought about a future with Amy, he would have never brought it up, and if he didn't know deep down that he was considering all of that, he wouldn't have stormed out of her apartment.  And I agree with everyone who has talked about the Strawberry Quik line.  That is SO telling to me.  Things ARE better with Amy, and that scares him, because let's face it, he's having emotions he's always denied his entire life, and he really has no tools handy to deal with them.

    Since the writers have been so adamant about keeping Sheldon as sheldon, I think really, this was the only way (in their minds at least) to make a "change" in Sheldon and make it seem believable.  He had to go through a bunch of crap and get scared and go off and be alone for a while in order to get all of his thoughts and emotions in order and decide he needs to embrace these changes and his relationship.  So that's why although I hate the idea of not knowing where this is going, and it still hurts a bit that he ran off after snapping at Amy and then not saying goodbye to her, it also gives me hope that because of all of this, and all the foreshadowing throughout this season (the psychic, etc) that it's leading to something even greater for Shamy.

    I mean, why would they even do the psychic scene otherwise?  Why have Penny confirm to Sheldon that Amy is the key to his happiness, why set us up with so much hope with the kissing and all the various other things that have happened?  Most of the important plot points do come back around at some point, but sometimes they like to drag it out.  I think they know that many people are very invested in Shamy so they're torturing us by dragging it out even further.  Look at Leonard and Penny even--their relationship went through all sorts of breakups and getting back together and all kinds of drama, and now they're finally engaged.  What I've liked about Shamy is that while they have their own sorts of issues, it's never been so overly dramatic and it hasn't been a roller coaster of breaking up and getting back together.  They actually seem more stable to me as a couple, because despite everything, and even Sheldon's freak out and almost break-up in the Table episode, there's an understanding between them, and there's also a connection--and yes, even LOVE--between them that keeps them together.  

    Personally, I'm looking forward to tonight's episode, because I'm hoping it will give me something to cling to after the finale is over, and that maybe rewatching it at that point will also help shed more light on what the writers have been setting up here.  (and I REFUSE to do anything at this point but to believe that all of this IS leading somewhere.  Maybe I'm just fooling myself, but I have to believe the writers aren't that stupid.) I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they use the take with Sheldon swallowing when Amy shows up in her uniform.  It's little details like that that can say so much.

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  7. Wednesday I woke up at 230am to go to work and was very excited to read the taping report, fully expecting to die of Shamy feels and have the best day at work. After I read the report I was in denial, this can't be true they wouldn't do this! Very soon after I was angry. I stayed anger for a couple hours. I was the worst person to work with, I was kinda snippy and had a bit of an attitude. Around noon I was making every excuse in the book for why the writers did this. Then the depression set in, at night I always watch TBS and at least 2 or 3 episodes of bbt. When it came on I told my boyfriend it was ok if he turned it to basketball (Which I can't stand watching on tv) to say the least he was surprised. I couldn't even talk to him about it because he's unspoiled. I found out there is another Shamy shipper I work with, he was willing to be spoiled and I spoke to him about the finale, he was shocked to say the least. After talking to him I came to terms with the fact that in order to make Sheldon be the man he constantly tells everyone he is, something like this had to happen. I've never gone through the 5 stages of grief so quickly in my life. 

         After really thinking about everything that has taken place this season I now truly believe that this had to happen. Sheldon stepping back and attempting to deal with all these life changes is for the best, for everyone involved. I don't agree with him basically running away, there are other ways he could have gone about leaving, but this is Sheldon. As someone who has a hard time dealing with feelings and change myself I understand the need to separate yourself from a situation in order to see the bigger picture. My greatest hope is that the writers continue this in the Season 8 opener and show the progress Sheldon has made in his self realization. I agree that he probably didn't go to see his mother. My thoughts are that he either went to visit his Meemaw or maybe even Leonard's mother.  If his Meemaw is anything like my grandmother (who I call Ma and she's from Georgia) she will whip him into shape. Southern Grandmothers usually don't play around when it come to acting out or hurting others feelings, as my Ma would say, "Don't you do her that'a way!", they also have a great way of making you feel instantly guilty. I hope they take this as an opportunity to make advance the Shamy. Forcing Sheldon to grow and realize his feelings as well as making Amy more outspoken and being more firm with Sheldon when he starts freaking out. 

        Having way too much in common with Sheldon I feel bad for him. So much has happened this season and I can see why he freaked out.  I freak out if my boyfriend is playing around and says he's going to sleep on my side of the bed or if he sits in my spot on the couch. I don't know what I would do if  something I worked hard on was disproved and embarrassed me, if my mother was proven to be a hypocrite, if I felt like I wasted essentially my entire life on something that couldn't be proven, my mentor died and my favorite place no longer existed. Then to add to all that one of the constants in my life were being to taken away then feeling like your being forced either out of where you've lived for over ten years or feeling like you're being forced to live alone. Also not knowing how to express yourself to the one person who actually understands you. I would be in a constant state of panic if all of this was thrown at me. I freaked out when i got promoted at work and that was a good thing, I couldn't imagine if I felt like what I did didn't matter or if it was a dead end. 

       Overall after a day of thinking about this entire situation and taking into account the other episodes( Anything can happen and Proton) I think this season was major for the overall growth of the group. Howard and Bernadette working together to take care of his mother and becoming a very strong couple. Leonard and Penny realizing what's important and advancing their relationship. Raj finally figuring out that people like him for him and in order to be happy in life he first needs to be happy with himself. Sheldon and Amy advancing in certain aspects of their relationship while trying to navigate personal issues which we will hopefully see a resolution to in the first couple episodes of season 8. 

       I'm not saying the summer will make Sheldon make a complete 180 and change, I would hate if they completely changed him. I just hope that they make him more sensitive to Amy's needs and realizes he needs to treat everyone better, even if they show him actively working on it in season 8 i'd be happy. 

    I seriously think this is the longest post i've ever made, but this is what i've been thinking about all day. 

     

    You make such great points here, KayMarie!  And I'm right there with you on the stages of grief thing.  I still have moments where I feel bad about all of this, but overall, I agree that it really needed to happen and that this can definitely be a GOOD thing in the long run.    I'm personally glad that they didn't break up and that Sheldon is calling her.  It shows that he still really cares about her, and I'm really looking forward to their reuinion and how all of this change and his soul searching will play out in season 8.  I really hope the writers have something good planned for Shamy.  Judging by all the set up they've done this season, I really think that has to be the case.

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  8.  

    Oh, Sheldon loves Amy. He's afraid that's all. What a baby. Lol. But then again, when it comes to matters of the heart,who isn't? I can totally relate with Sheldon. Let me digress a bit, just recently, I realized I'm in love with a close friend and it coincided with my realization that I don't like the field I am in. I ran away too. I left grad school, changed work twice and changed apartments thrice. That's three cities in one year! It wasn't easy but I needed to find myself, so to speak. And it turned out well.
     
    Anyway, like strawberry quick with syrup, he knows he is better with her than on his own. He doesn't dislike it; he said the drink was yummy as I believe he knows his life will be once he commits fully to her. But it scares him because it is yet another change. 
     
    He is, moreover, aware that her suggestion to move in is well-meaning: it's because she loves him. And I don't think he disregards her feelings, otherwise he wouldn't have called her. He  checked in with her after he has calmed down, which isn't exactly a dick move. Had he called her before or upon boarding the train, he would have given her the same treatment as when he was he was in her apartment.
     
    I also liked that he said he's doing well because if he said he's not, his call would not have appeased his worried girlfriend. It goes without saying that that doesn't make the situation easier for him and I think Amy knows that. I choose to see this as an indication that he is actually being considerate. 
     
    Also, in my opinion, Amy is not being a doormat here. In previous episodes this season, we saw her several times calling him out for his bad behavior towards her (raiders, workplace, locomotive). She just chose not to do so in this case. And there's a beauty in it. She understands him and even though it distresses her too, she steps back to allow him to resolve his issues. She did not berate him for leaving and instead let him know she's glad he is okay. She is so perfect for him. And I think in his own messed up ways, he is trying, struggling to be perfect for her, too.
     
    Lastly, as has been pointed out, they both need this space. It's the first time since they became a couple that they'll be apart from each other under uncertain terms. I think it will make up for an interesting reunion next season.
     
    Oh, wow. There now. I feel better. 

     

     

    Thank you so much for that post, Miss Carmeli!  That was beautiful, and you made me feel better too!  I totally agree with this!  And now I'm looking forward to the next season.  :)

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  9. Welcome!  You've summed it up nicely.

     

    Sheldon did what he did and said what he said because he's scared and doesn't know which way is up.  He isn't really equipped emotionally to handle all this change at one time so no matter what he says it's going to come out mean and negative.  His going away is the best thing for him and Amy because this way he can figure everything out without feeling any pressure from anyone.

     

    My son is exactly like this and getting away from everything gives him a chance to step back, evaluate things and only then can he actually vocalize what he wants to say.

     

    Thank you, Anita! 

     

    To be honest, even though this is really how I see things, I keep flip-flopping between thinking everything will work out just fine, and being depressed about the whole thing.  I was thinking up fanfic plotlines a while ago and was actually tearing up.  So I'm glad to see you agree with these thoughts, and it's nice to have that perspective about your son.  I really do hope that when Sheldon returns, things won't just go back to how they were, but that he'll at least be able to tell Amy how he feels.

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