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  1. RJ1013

    [Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

    I did not attend yesterday, but I found this on Instagram (attendee username removed in case they want privacy).
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    [Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

    Yes, exactly! I know some Lenny fans will be disappointed at the lack of scenes for that couple in this episode. Assuming that these fans enjoy the characters of Leonard and Penny individually, I hope they'll be willing to look at this episode for what it is instead of hating it for what it isn't. Otherwise those fans will miss out on some nice moments of friendship. I've always felt that Leonard and Penny's enduring friendships with the odd (and often difficult) Sheldon and Amy is part of what makes them so endearing and part of what shows us, the audience, a lot of their best and kindest character traits.
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    [Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

    Behind the scenes everyone seemed in positive spirits and had lots of good energy, which is why I don't think anyone knew about Stephen Hawking yet. Melissa Rauch had a tough time getting out one of her lines about the body shots. She joked that her teacup was actually full of straight bourbon (or something along those lines). There were at least 3 different spots where the actors had to wait extra long for the audience to stop laughing. One being a Raj moment followed by a joke from Leonard, the other 2 being in the tag scene. Watching the actors' facial expressions during these long moments that they have to wait makes it even funnier. I think they always shorten those waits in editing, but it's a fun aspect of watching a live taping, and hopefully a good sign of a funny episode. The bar scene with James Maslow was pre-taped. I think he only had a line or two, but I'm not sure. We only see the pre-taped scenes once, so I don't tend to remember those as well as the live scenes which are shot at least twice. I don't believe he was present at the actual taping.
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    [Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

    To those who asked, I did have a great time at this taping, thank you. My opinion is no doubt highly colored by seeing it live, but I think it’s my favorite episode of this season. It was a very friendship-focused episode, imo, and it was especially nice to have some scenes for the girls again. Both Penny and Bernadette were excellent friends to Amy, particularly Penny who planned things. The quilting party was Penny’s idea, and came from her thinking about what she thought Amy would love. When it turned out that Amy’s expectations were different, she and Bernadette shifted gears and made it happen. Specifically, I think that what Amy wanted was the experience of feeling like she had a wild night, kind of like early seasons Amy, who didn’t want to miss out on things. But I’m not so sure that Amy truly wanted to do some of those things, you know? So her friends lying about the evening was kind of ideal. Amy got to feel like she had a wild night without actually having to do anything that would’ve made her uncomfortable. I think it was a good friendship episode for the guys too, having each others’ backs to go meet the crazy physicist in the woods. It wasn’t a bachelor party per se, but if you think of the spirit of a bachelor party, I think this seems appropriate for Sheldon. His bachelor days weren’t filled with drinking, partying, and women; his bachelor days were filled with the delusion that he was fine on his own and with his aspirations of a life solely focused on work. One last look at that makes a lot more sense than a traditional party. I’m not someone who likes everything that the writers do, but I have to give them credit here because I thought it was a clever way of doing a ‘bachelor party’ for Sheldon.
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    [Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

    Here’s the long summary. If you prefer lots of surprises, obviously skip this. Plenty of stuff is missing and/or may be mixed up. Some things are hard to describe, like Dr. Wolcott’s oddities and Amy’s reactions/physical comedy, so you’ll just have to wait and see on those aspects. I’ll post my own opinions and try to answer any questions anyone has sometime later, since I don’t have time now. “The Reclusive Potential” Main cast in 4A: Sheldon receives a letter from Dr. Wolcott, a fellow scientist whose work he is interested in since it may be vital to his string theory research. Wolcott is someone the guys are all aware of, and he has a reputation for being very weird. Amy wants Leonard to keep an eye on Sheldon so that he doesn’t have to go alone to meet the creepy man in his secluded cabin in the forest, and she can’t do so herself due to her scheduled bachelorette party weekend. Penny (possibly Bernadette?) wants Wolowitz to go and keep an eye on Leonard. Raj assumes he’ll be asked to keep an eye on Howard and the ladies quickly agree since they know he’ll otherwise insist on coming to the bachelorette party. Sheldon and Amy in bed 4B: Sheldon is concerned about Amy and her upcoming party. She does think things might get a bit wild, since it is Penny who has planned it. He reminds Amy to use protection. She’s not sure exactly what it is that he thinks she’ll be doing. He just wants her to be careful, and if they’re outside, he knows how easily her skin burns in the sun. Amy hugs him and thinks it’s sweet that he’s worried. All 4 guys in Leonard’s car: There’s some more discussion of Dr. Wolcott. Then Wolowitz (or Raj?) jokes that it’s going to be a weird bachelor party. Leonard tells them that Sheldon insisted on not having a bachelor party, and Sheldon explains that the traditional hedonistic aspects of such parties do not appeal to him. The girls going into 4A: Penny and Bernadette guide a blindfolded Amy into 4A and reveal the apartment filled with quilting supplies/sewing machine and tea to drink. Amy tries to act pleased/excited. Though it’s kind of obvious that she isn’t, the girls don’t seem to notice. The guys at Dr. Wolcott’s cabin: Wolcott is a suspicious man who lives alone and is solely focused on his theories. He is constantly worried that someone will try to steal his work. After opening his numerous door locks and questioning the presence of the other 3 guys, he lets them in and collects their phones. He shows them some notebooks with his work, which are written backwards and have the letters and numbers inverted. Sheldon thinks the guy is great. The girls in 4A: Amy is sewing a quilt piece on the sewing machine while Bernadette and Penny are having tea on the couch. After a short while, Amy stands up and says ‘what the hell?’ She seems hurt and asks the girls if they really think that she is this boring. They decide to take her out to a bar so that she can have the wild night of poor decision making that she was expecting. Bernadette recommends body shots off of hot guys’ chests. Amy is enthused. The girls at the bar: Amy asks what body shots actually are. When Penny explains it’s like taking a shot out of a guy’s belly button, Amy finds the idea unappealing. Cut to 12 minutes later at the bar: Amy is passed out slumped over in her seat with her face smooshed against the bar. Bernadette wonders if they should carry her home already. Penny decides they should stay and finish their drinks and food. The guys at Dr. Wolcott’s cabin: They are all impressed with Wolcott’s work and the extent of his productivity. Once again, someone makes a comment about Sheldon’s odd bachelor party, and when the topic of marriage comes up, Dr. Wolcott explains that he is also married. The guys ask if she is there, if she is alive, and if she is visible to other people. He explains that she lives in Munich and they have a long distance relationship. They send birthday cards once a year and otherwise focus entirely on their work. He recommends cutting out all outside distractions to Sheldon if he wants to succeed at his work. Intrigued, Sheldon says he had never considered a long distance marriage. Wolcott suggests dinner, either rabbit or squirrel, and asks if they can tell the difference. He leaves to go hunting. Once he’s gone, Leonard asks/tells Sheldon that he’s not really considering any of that, right? Sheldon says no, he is not, and sounds a bit surprised at his own quick and certain answer. Howard says that it makes sense because Sheldon has friends, a fiancée, a full life. Sheldon agrees with Wolowitz and says he’s ready to go home. He misses Amy and sees no reason to further tempt himself with some strange man’s alluring math. (2nd take, he misses Amy and his phone). Also, he is from Texas and can definitely tell the difference between rabbit and squirrel. The girls back to 4A: Amy startles awake from where she is passed out on the couch. She guesses what must’ve happened and says that she is ‘so lame’ for passing out at her own bachelorette party. The girls claim that Amy did a bunch of wild stuff first, and make up some stories about it, one of which involves her Riverdancing on the bar countertop. Amy seems embarrassed, yet pleased, and she believes them even though she doesn’t think she knows how to Riverdance. Still embarrassed, she asks about pictures, and they assure her they wouldn’t do that to her. She says they are good friends. Cut to a slideshow of pictures: passed out Amy at the bar, in the car, and on the couch with Penny and Bernadette posing with her. Back at the cabin: Dr. Wolcott discovers the guys have left. Then he wonders if they were ever there at all. Then he wonders if they are actually on their way over now, and decides to tidy up. It’s a train of thought that matches with his multiple time dimensions theory. Tag, Sheldon and Amy in 4B: Hungover Amy is buttering her toast when Sheldon comes in. He walks over to say hello and kisses her cheek. She asks about his trip, and he tells her it was of great help for his work. Then he asks her if she will still love him if she finds out that he isn’t the work-obsessed, hyper-focused genius that she thought he was. She says that she will, then asks if he will still love her if she’s not the straight-laced, buttoned-down quilting woman that he thinks she is. What if she’s really a Riverdancing wild woman? He agrees that he will love her anyway. They share a kiss. Then Sheldon asks if she even knows how to Riverdance. Amy gets up, they exchange weird flirty looks, and she demonstrates her Riverdance. Looking very interested, Sheldon insists that she not do that for any other man, and Amy looks proud of herself. -I can’t remember if the 2 Shamy kisses in the tag were in the first take because I was laughing so much at Amy’s Riverdance. I know that what’s above is accurate for at least the second take.
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    [Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

    Short summary: ”The Reclusive Potential” Penny and Bernadette surprise Amy with a quilting bee bachelorette party, complete with tea to drink. When they discover it’s not the wild night of poor decision making that Amy had wanted, they take her to a bar. The guys accompany Sheldon to visit Dr. Walcott, an unusual, reclusive man who lives in a cabin in the woods. Alone, hyper-focused on his work, and kinda crazy, he has done some work that will help Sheldon in his string theory efforts. Not a bachelor party in any typical sense (Sheldon didn’t want one), meeting Dr. Wolcott nevertheless provides one last look at a life Sheldon might’ve once thought ideal. This is a funny and sweet episode, IMO, and I don’t think the short summary really conveys that, so I’ll try to write out something better tomorrow.
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    [Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

    I attended tonight’s taping. We were unaware of Stephen Hawking’s passing. I’m not sure if the cast or crew knew at that time (we got out at 9:30), but I didn’t see any signs of anyone being aware. Hawking was not in any pretaped scenes for this episode.
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    [Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

    Thanks for the interesting post, @hokie3457. I know a lot of people here despise Sheldon, and you’re right that that’s why I led with the Penny example. There was plenty of Sheldon ego at play in that episode, no doubt, and plenty of naivety too. I'm not saying Sheldon is some perfect hero, merely that what Ramona did was clearly wrong, and I don't see Sheldon as responsible for what she chose to do. As for listening to his friends, even when it appeared at first that he was ignoring Penny's advice, in the very next scene we find out that he did listen. In fact, it was less than 30 seconds into that scene with Ramona that he asked her if she had any romantic intentions. I appreciate your explanation of how the nonsensical-boat-kiss-thing is a comparison that comes up for you. Hearing 'Leonard cheated' in chat must've been a real kick in the gut. It’s easy to see how the ambiguity of that storyline would annoy the crap out of everyone who is heavily invested in L/P, since those who aren’t can make it sound really terrible, regardless of what may have happened. It was the girl who started it, if I remember right, and Leonard who ended it. I think it was Leonard (maybe Howard too) who called it ‘making out’, but it wouldn’t surprise me if Leonard was just being hard on himself, that a few seconds of shock and slowness to stop things made him feel guilty and describe it that way. It seems unlikely that he’d have been some super-active participant for all the same reasons you mentioned. Since it’s so ambiguous, I see no reason to think the worst of him, especially since the worst-case scenario seems so out of character. It could very well be that Leonard’s situation was much the same as Sheldon’s. My useless 2 cents.
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    [Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

    I wouldn’t call someone who was robbed a participant in their robbery, nor a person who was assaulted a participant in their assault. It’s an insult in any context where someone was unwilling or a victim, imo. Is that being pedantic? Maybe. But posting assorted nonsense on the internet is kind of why we’re all here, isn’t it? Anyway, the rest of my post wasn’t directed at you, since your position on the matter was otherwise clear. It’s just that quoting you was a jumping off point for addressing the opinions of the others that you referenced.
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    [Spoilers] Season 11 Discussion Thread

    I tend to prefer reading along to posting these days, but I can’t resist throwing in my thoughts on this. Imagine if a colleague or client that Penny works with started mistaking her kindness for romantic flirtation, not unlike the Billy Bob Thornton character. And when Penny finally figures out that the guy has the wrong idea, she tells him right away that it isn’t going to happen and begins listing off the reasons: they do business together, she’s married, etc. Then imagine that the guy kisses her anyway, despite her clear, verbal lack of consent. Would you say that Penny was a ‘participant’ in such a kiss, even if she briefly froze in shock/horror before walking away? I wouldn’t. I'd say she was the victim of an unwanted advance. I certainly wouldn’t blame her if it took her a few seconds to figure out how to handle the situation without making things worse for herself! That’s what happened to Sheldon. He was in the middle of listing off all of the reasons that he did not want any sort of romantic involvement with Ramona when she kissed him. I could not disagree more strongly with those who hold a position that Sheldon (or anyone) is responsible for a physical encounter being foisted upon them when that person has clearly stated their lack of consent.
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    Information For Attending A Big Bang Theory Taping

    Tickets are up for 8/15 right now. Upcoming taping dates: The Big Bang Theory★ 8/15/17 ★ 8/22/17 ★ 8/29/17 ★ 9/12/17 ★ 9/19/17
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    [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

    He had apparently been carrying the ring around with him, so I assume he's been wanting to give it to her, but for whatever reason he hadn't done so yet. That's all I meant by 'holding back on a proposal'. Being happy with his status quo and not wanting to change things is certainly another possible reason.
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    [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

    Back in 10.5, Sheldon expressed his fear of someday hurting Amy the same way that his father hurt his mother (i.e. infidelity). Penny knew he wouldn’t do that and Amy didn’t seem worried about his outburst either. And, of course, Sheldon himself acknowledged that he didn’t really want to see other people. Despite the absurdity of it all, in retrospect I wonder how much something like that continued to weigh on his mind. Fears are often irrational, and ones rooted in childhood experiences can be especially tough to let go. Sheldon had been holding back on a proposal for quite a while, and maybe the irrational fear he expressed in that episode was the reason why. Maybe it took Ramona throwing herself at him for him to become 100% certain that he would never want anyone else—that he would never hurt Amy by being like his father in that way. The Ramona incident is an otherwise odd catalyst for a proposal. Anyway, whatever his reasons are for proposing so suddenly, I hope we get to hear them talking about it a bit. I don’t want it to look like it’s because he feels guilty or something. I’d much prefer that his reason is because he is fully confident that marrying her is what he wants. I have a lot of posts to catch up on in this thread, so apologies if I’m repeating anyone else. Oh, and thanks as always to those who shared spoilers!
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    [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

    It's still hard for me to imagine Ramona aggressively pursuing Sheldon for romance after the way her story went years ago. Aggressively pursuing him for help on something she's working on would make so much more sense.
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    [Spoilers] Shamy: Season 10

    This is something I’ve been considering too. I can’t see Sheldon or Amy ever cheating on one another. That sort of mundane drama just doesn’t fit those two. The only thing I can think of that could even begin to come between them would be their dedication to science. Science has already succeeded at pulling Amy away for a few months as of episode 23, and it’s possible that the writers might want to expand on that idea even more. There have been a number of episodes over the years that display Sheldon’s worries over his scientific progress or lack thereof. With this military project being taken away, it could become a sore spot for him once again. A well-timed comment from Ramona saying that he should’ve listened to her years ago and not allowed himself to become distracted by his social life could pick at that vulnerability. In the end, I’m sure he’d recognize that Amy’s presence in his life has been nothing but a tremendous boon to his pursuit of science (hello collaborative project), but it could make for some brief drama. That’s just one scenario, and I’m not saying it’s likely, but if they insist on shoving in some Shamy angst, I think it’ll be something more appropriate to these characters than infidelity. All in all, I’m really not worried about the finale. Shamy are in a great place, and I think their story is ultimately meant to be a happy one. It wouldn’t surprise me if Ramona is around for pure comedy as opposed to manufacturing drama.
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