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  1. I don’t think it’s about who deserves what they want - they’re not 6 yo kids who need a lollipop as a prize for being good little boys. Sheldon doesn’t deserve a Nobel prize but can end up achieving that logically as a story through individual excellence ( or as it turns out as a team with Amy). Whether the theory in the plot is scientifically worthy is another debate. Leonard OTOH doesn’t deserve to have a kid because it involves a shared commitment to an emotional decision by him AND his wife Penny.

    Sheldon could have been written as achieving his series long dream of a Nobel without Amy; Leonard doesn’t get his dream realised without Penny. It’s a big difference in real life. What Leonard and Penny DESERVE as characters in a story is a well written story that explains why the final decision is what it is, which may still happen. But Leonard doesn’t deserve a baby just because he wanted one in the pilot. That’s not how life works in my experience.

    And I’m a Lenny who wanted a Lenny baby but can accept it not happening if the story of the decision is written well.


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    I'm talking about a television program not real life. If it was real life i would agree with you

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  2. To be honest, Penny saying maybe someday to Leonard when it comes to kids reminds me of moms saying maybe next time when their kid is in the store whining for a new toy by the checkout counter.  It's let's drop this and move on.
    I think talking about having kids is a lot more serious than a toy at the checkout stand

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  3. Even if there wasn’t a second Wolowitz baby I think there is no guarantee there would have been a Leonard and Penny child on the show.
    I think viewer fatigue maybe even creative fatigue is a factor in their decision making process, but there are other factors as well. For example having a child (even an invisible one) on the main set of the show brings its own challenges in terms of story writing. With Howard and Bernie having their own set home I do think it has been easier than say having a child living in 4A and with the two couples interacting so much in 4A and 4B.
    I remember Penny saying she wouldn't put her body through 3 pregnancies but she never said no babies

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  4. The asymmetry story line is important to Shamy fans.  It's an experience the S/A entered into together as a team and the fans want to see it through to the end.
    But comparing that story line with the L/P baby story line is like comparing apples and oranges.
    If S/A don't win the Nobel for this project, they have a lifetime to pursue another one.  
    Having kids or not having kids is a decision you have live with for the rest of your life.
    Didn't Leonard want children in the first episode. So why would sheldon deserve a Nobel prize and Leonard not get what he wanted

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  5. "The Laureate Accumulation"
    The gang is watching Campbell/Pemberton on Ellen. Sheldon is just waiting for Ellen to ask them what exactly Super Asymmetry is so the world can see what big frauds they are. Instead, she asks them to sing their Physics song. They get up and perform "Let's Get Physics-al". Penny looks super impressed.
    Sheldon goes to their hotel to tell the other team they have to hold a press conference to tell the world that Super Asymmetry was his and Amy's idea and that they're frauds. They decline and Kal Penn's character (Campbell) tells Sean Astin (Pemberton) that his wife was not right, and he's not a fraud at all. Sheldon says she was right and they basically slam the door in his face.
    Guys eating at the cafeteria. Sheldon sees another video that Pemb/Camp have uploaded. Leonard tells him it doesn't matter what they do, no one ever won anything by being nice. Raj says, well Tom Hanks has won tons of awards and he's super nice. Some back and forth on Tom Hanks.  Then Siebert comes up and tells Sheldon not to worry about the other team's publicity tour. They ask if he's worried and he fake laughs and says of course not. He's scheduled a reception with a bunch of other Nobel Laureates so they can get the science world on their side. They don't have to worry about being likable if they can get the other scientists to support them. Sheldon asks Siebert, doesn't he think that him and Amy are likable. Siebert says that's what he likes about Sheldon, he asks the difficult questions.
    Howard and Bernie talk in their living room. Halley is afraid of the dark so Howard goes to talk to her. Bernie overhears him telling Halley that he was scared in space, and he also was wearing a full diaper.
    Sheldon and Amy talking in their apartment.  Amy is reading out list of Nobel laureates invited to the reception. Sheldon winces after each name, because he's somehow insulted or alienated every single one of them. He says he wouldn't have insulted them if he'd have known he'd need them in the future.  Amy just looks at him and then he admits that's actually not true.
    Stuart and Bernie at H/B house. Bernadette is trying to draw a cartoon about Howard in space and Stuart asks her if Halley drew that at school.  He offers to illustrate the nighttime story. Says it will be a real change from his usual drawings. Bernie asks what he usually draws, and he awkwardly says, well good night, and hurries off.
    Leonard and Penny at their apt. Leonard is washing dishes and Penny says she thought he said was going to workout. He says you have your ways of working out and I have mine. Sheldon and Amy come in, asking to borrow some cookie dough. They're going to send the Noble laureates cookies to convince them to come to the reception . Some discussion about how Sheldon didn't mean to insult all of them, he just sometimes misses social cues. Penny says "you don't say" (very funny facial expressions in this scene lol).
    Sheldon and Amy's apartment, intercut with scenes of the various scientists receiving their cookies.  Kip Thorne and George Smoot see they're from Sheldon and throw their's away immediately. Frances Arnold opens her up and says mmm cookies, then sees they're Oatmeal Raisin and throws them away. At the apt Sheldon is checking his email. He excitedly calls Amy over and says look someone has taken the cookies we sent and spelled out Thank You with them.  Amy looks and says, that word is not "Thank" Sheldon.
    Bernie and Howard with Raj at their house. Bernie shows Howard the book with Stuart's illustrations, it's called Frightened Little Astronaut. And a publisher wants to publish it, but they need Howard's permission. Howard says no way and walks out. Raj says maybe they should all it the Bitchy Little Astronaut instead.
    Leonard and Sheldon at L/P apt. Sheldon feels bad because his past bad behavior is making Amy suffer. Leonard looks surprised and asks Sheldon when he started caring about other people's feelings. Sheldon says, well when Amy was shocked by the Christmas lights (or something like that) and he laughed at her, it was sometime after that. Amy and Penny are in the laundry room and Amy is explaining what Sheldon did to each of the Nobel laureates and why none of them are coming to the reception. Penny is sympathetic but she's like damn, I probably wouldn't come either.  Back to L/S, and Sheldon is saying he just has a problem telling when he's gone too far.  Leonard says he can help him by saying a code word when he shouldn't say anything. It will be "shut up". Sheldon says that's perfect, since he hears it all the time, and no one will suspect it's their code word.
    H/B house and Stuart is convincing Howard to agree to the book. Stuart says he could really use this. Howard wants to change everything about the astronaut, including the name, giving him muscles, and having him fight aliens in space. Stuart says so basically you want it to be a superhero astronaut. Howard says yes, that's perfect.
    Penny and Leonard trying to convince Kip Thorne (maybe, I can't remember which one) to come to the reception.  Penny asks him about his work and he's impressed she knows about whatever it was. While Leonard is talking, she quickly googles it, then reads off to him exactly what it is.  Penny tells him that Amy is actually really nice, and if you combine her and Sheldon (math!) you get an okay person.
    Bernie trying to convince Howard to do the book.  He doesn't want his kids to know how scared he was in space. Bernie says the book might help some kid who's been scared know that they can overcome it (basically. Melissa had a ton of trouble with this line and had to re-do it 4 or 5 times). Finally she guilts him into it. Howard says she uses guilt expertly, just like a Jewish Mom. 
    The reception is happening. All the Nobel laureates are there and Sheldon and Amy seem to be doing well. Then Pemberton and Campbell show up. They say that George Smoot invited them, they're Facebook friends, and they call him Smooty.  Leonard checks in with Sheldon to see if they're alright, and Sheldon says now everyone will find out that the other team have no idea what they're talking about.  Shamy go up to Pemb/Camp and quiz them with a really in-depth question about Super Asymmetry.  The guys guess the right answer and Shamy are stumped.  Pemberton and Campbell then give a speech about how they've felt so accepted since they proved Super Asymmetry and they weren't sure if they would fit in, that sometimes they feel like frauds but everyone has been so great.  All the scientists in the room are nodding along and looking impressed. Sheldon wants to say something but Leonard tells him to shut up. Finally Amy has had enough and totally flips out. She screams at them that what they're feeling is called Fraud Syndrome and it's actually because they're true frauds that they're feeling like that. She says her and Sheldon should be the winners because they discovered Super Asymmetry and the other team doesn't even know what it really is.  Everyone is looking at her like she's crazy. Sheldon asks Leonard if that's what he looks like when he says something he shouldn't and Leonard says yes, and Sheldon thanks him for stopping him this time.
    We end on Howard reading The Frightened Little Astronaut to Halley. He's trying to change it, but Bernie catches him. When she leaves, he changes it and tells Halley that he really did fight aliens in space .
     
    Such details thank you so much

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  6. The issue is that a LOT of young women go blond apparently when they go to California to get into acting and there would be lots of competition.  Just a fact. Or at least that's what friends I have who live in California say. I concede I haven't done a study on it personally.
    I really think you need to come to California and see for yourself before you make a comment like that. You might be surprised

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  7. This is jmo and I'm not trying to change anyone else's but since my wife passed away my daughter and grand daughter have given me another purpose in life I have something to look forward to every day other wise I might be sitting down in Mexico drinking margaritas and eating fish tacos wasting my life away

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  8. How is the Penny character ruined by deciding to not have kids? She will still have a wonderful life with Leonard. Just because they may not have kids does not mean her or Leonard's life is over. There really is life to be lived without kids...Penny has matured and grown into her own person since we first met her. I don't see her as ruined. 
    My opinion is that Leonard may except the no kids now but down the road a few years he may see families around him and start to realize what missing in his life and rethink his decision to stay with Penny

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  9. I mean, it's the common cold. Not really reason to do anything except take medicine and tough it out. As for Sheldon, she did that for him because of he has a mental and emotional age of an elementary schooler. With Mary in Texas, she often does fill the role of his mother. Leonard ran away from him because the expectations that someone spend their day tending to an adult with a cold was so unreasonable. 
    Sheldon must have taken the common cold to a extreme because Leonard, Howard and Raj all had a plan to hide from him

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  10. What surprises me the most is that tptb haven't had sheldon making snide remarks to Leonard about the smart and beautiful babies

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    I woulden't like Penny taking care of him. I like that they are individuals. She is his wife, not his Mother. But that is just my perspective. 
    Your entitled to your opinion but I've been married a few times and we always took care of each other when one of us sick

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