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  1. 11 minutes ago, veejay said:

    Yeah, I might be an abnormal but also a loyal fan. ūüėÄ

    No not at all abnormal some people like tv, some books, some music we all have different tastes in our entertainment nothing abnormal about that 

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  2. This is my last post on this subject since politics is not really why I come here.

    I know many claim we Americans are arrogant and many of us think Europeans just envious, but I am reminded of something I heard when I was in the military...

    Yeh tho I walk thru the valley of death I am not afraid, for I know I am the baddest motherfucker in the valley

    That has been true for at least the last hundred years and those empires we supplanted to get there will never forgive us for it even though they owe us in large part for the freedom and economic prosperity many of us feel they are now throwing away.

    Makes me wonder if the Marshal plan was just a huge waste of money maybe we should have just done Versailles 2. But then empire building is not really our thing

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  3. Non Americans opinions of our country or government matter to me not one bit.

    But it seems the populist movements are rising every where, European style socialism is on life support and we are tired of being the western world's sheild and atm you can do whatever is in your country's best interest as we are now doing. 

    But whether or not "the world" approves of our actions matters not at all. We are now looking out for ourselves nothing is stopping you from doing the same

    Neville Chamberlain would love modern day europe and Winston Churchill is rolling in his grave

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  4. Just read the last few pages of the thread, the answer is simple if you have a problem with Trump dont vote for him.

    Oh wait most of you cant. Worry about your own governments and let us chose ours. You may not approve of our choices but then we didn't ask you to.

     

     

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  5. On 6/14/2018 at 1:42 AM, 3ku11 said:

    So that excuses Leonard going behind Pennys back, when she explicably said not too? Call Penny a Hypocrite. But that was Disrespectful from Leonard. So I Think he deserved that. 

    Leonard is allways wrong and Penny is always in the right got it.

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  6. 17 hours ago, 3ku11 said:

     


    But I just think she couldn’t miss the opportunity to rub it in Leonard’s face for thinking she couldn’t do the assignment herself.


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    And she couldn't, she had someone else do it for her. What she "rubbed in" Leonard's face was Amy and Bernies work nor her own.

    So yeah she was a hypocrite 

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  7. On 6/1/2018 at 12:01 AM, Carlos said:

    Thank you so much, chucky, couldn't have said it better myself.

    Well but that's not what free speech means. Not to mention that "why sticks and stones?" No. People shouldn't be talking shit about other people. And that has nothing to do with political correctness, as your picture implies. IMO, it has to do with not being a dick.

    Carlos I love you man but if I want to be a dick I have the right to be a dick. I dont agree with or approve of what either woman said but the totally opposite treatment of them simply goes to show that there is a double standard in our country and it is especially prominent in our entertainment industry. If you are a liberal as most in Hollywood are you can say anything and they will find a way to excuse you if you aren't a liberal the media and news will vilify you to the most extreme possible in the hopes that others like you will just not say anything.

    The left have been on the rise for decades and we see where that has gotten us, people are waking up Brexit, the Trump presidency  and the recent election results in Italy not to mention the Visigard countries show that the pendulum is swinging back to the more Conservative view.  And the left has dropped all pretense of civility and fairness in their fight to halt that swing. In today's world EVERYTHING is political

  8. 26 minutes ago, hokie3457 said:

    Because of Ms Barr’s history, I’m betting there was an insurance policy in place to protect the production company against the results of her doing something similar to what brought about the cancellation...

    The production company maybe but the network is doubtful since they only buy the show not own or produce it

  9. I was never a fan of the original show and haven't watched the new one at all.

    I am just saying that while an employer does indeed have the right to fire someone over speech that "Harm" done to the brand is a two edged sword. Some people would have been unhappy with them and stopped watching 5here network if the show continued, some are mad at them for cancelling it and will stop watching their network.

    They simply had to chose which viewers they wanted to piss off and they chose the ones who don't agree with them politically.

    And no I will never again go to a Disney park or watch one of their shows. Their PC crusade has ruined the Muppets and star wars already I won't encourage them to do more with any financial support

    14 minutes ago, son-goku5 said:

    Actually, you can speak about the Nazis, I and other people do it all the time and it depends on context, like historical . What you can't do is display Nazi paraphernalia in public. You can hang up Nazi flags inside your home, use Hitler bedsheets or draw thousands of tiny swastikas onto your wallpaper and nobody will be arrested for that (see our first article of constitution).

    And while you may think it strange but the German government, no matter what party runs it, takes our past seriously. Because quite frankly, the Ku Klux Klan is a bunch of amateurs compared to what the Nazis did. If the Klan had herded black people into gas chambers (or meat grinders or whatever) to kill them by the hundreds of thousands or millions and maybe started a (new civil) war about the issue, I think we wouldn't see Klan rallies today, at least not in public. Then again, some americans (way too many in my humble view) tend to be ignorant when it comes to their own country's past.

    None of us can hide the bad acts in our history  after all "those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it" 

    While I like and respect our European members I would not want to live under your governments, but then again I don't have much respect for my own either

  10. 21 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said:

    No one is imprisoning Ms Barr. She was operating in a commercial environment and her behaviour was too costly - and perhaps distasteful - for the organisation paying for the show. It’s capitalism what got her, not snowflakes. She can go wild on Twitter now, without consequence. Let’s see how that pans out. There may be a  paying market for what she says. What are the chances.

    The show is (was) popular and profitable, we will never know if it would have hurt the network because they cancelled it which WILL hurt them from lost revenue among other ways.

    We don't know what the monatery damage might have been (capitalism) because they made a political decision before that happened. It may have hurt them it may not we will never know

  11. 14 minutes ago, djsurrey said:

    Apparently one can be imprisoned for lying to the FBI.

     

    14 minutes ago, djsurrey said:

    Apparently one can be imprisoned for lying to the FBI.

    Yes and that's a wonderful trap you say you arrived at a place at 5  the cctv shows it was 5: 03 you just lied to the FBI and can be prosecuted....

    Unless of course you "cooperate" 

    12 minutes ago, Nogravitasatall said:

    What are the chances.

    Quite good actually

  12. 35 minutes ago, son-goku5 said:

    There's "free speech" and then there's "You can say anything". Free speech everywhere doesn't mean that you simply can say anything you like. If you yell "Fire!" or "There's a bomb in here!" in a crowded theater or club, and someone gets hurt or killed in the ensuing panic, you will be held liable for any damage caused and no judge will accept a free speech defense.

    In Germany we have free speech (or freedom of opinion, as it's called). But the first article in our constitution is "A person's dignity is inviolate", so you have limits here as well what you can say.

    Sorry but no you don't have free speech in Germany at least not a Americans define it. I live in the American South we are not proud of the klu klux klan but we can't be imprisoned for talking about them, displaying their sigils or collecting their paraphernalia. In your country you had the Nazis and can go to prison for those things. If you can be imprisoned just for saying something that's not free speach.

    The "fire" exception is because it could cause a panic that would cause PHYSICAL injury to others this instance dosent meet that criteria. I an a firm believer in the old saying "I can hate what you say but I will defend your right to say it.

    ABC is indeed within their rights to do what they did but I consider it both an over reaction  and honestly an excuse to do what they wanted to anyway cancel a popular program which didn't mesh with TPTB at the networks political agenda.

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  13. 2 hours ago, Carlos said:

    Obviously not fair game. To say that a black woman has ape-like arms (or something to that effect) is unacceptable.

    Free speech should mean that is nothing is unacceptable.

    Sticks and stones and all that, but the world is full of snowflakes now and hurt feelings are all that matter...

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