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  1. You're right. It looks as though these days it's more complicated if the baby's parents are foreigners. They don't have to be naturalised as British subjects but at least one of them has to meet certain conditions such as beng resident and working, just coming over for a holiday won't do. If Anu is American and Raj is Indian they'll have to stay for a few years.
  2. A Swedish person has confirmed it would be Swedish so that makes it a dual citizen if the US allowed citizenship to a child born abroad.
  3. Everyone born in the UK has British nationality. It can be revoked if they want or have nationality of another country that doesn't allow dual nationality. Raj and Anu's children would have been British if Raj had followed through on going to England. ( Strictly speaking, 'citizenship' is a behaviour although in recent years socialists in particular have begun using it also in the American sense.) A Hostadter with dual nationality woud have made for some interesting fan fiction.
  4. So if hokie3457's idea had happened, with Penny somehow allowed to travel on the plane at such a late stage, and the Hofstadter baby born in Sweden, he or she could have had two passports, assuming American nationality is bestowed on a child born abroad to two American parents.
  5. Does Sweden allow dual nationality ? If so, that scenario could have raised some interesting questions.
  6. That's true enough, but I thought they really short-changed us over the pregnancy issue. There wasn't even much offscreen let alone on screen.They might have thought they'd given us enough on screen with Bernadette and assumed we wouldn't want all that again. I don't think that's an excuse for giving us next to nothing, however. What they eventually said even off screen was far too little. The whole matter wasn't handled well at all IMHO. We saw Penny telling Amy,Bernie and Leonard that she wanted to be child-free. Off screen Leonard had been angry, according to what Penny told the other girls, and he phoned her father. We saw Leonard on screen show Sheldon how upset he was and off screen Sheldon must have told Amy. There was a big enough deal made of Penny's attitude, upsetting a lot of the audience. We then got the whole Zack (censored) taking up time on and off screen. And then nothing about it for months on end. Sheldon's response to the pregnancy news from Leonard was no different from what a normal person's would have been under the circumstances. A man whose wife has made it clear she doesn't want children tells his friend the wife is expecting. (What is the response supposed to be to that in the air on a public plane on the way to get your Nobel ? ) The friend does not stay to discuss that and without a fuss goes back to his seat. For someone who rarely knows how to behave he does what anybody would. Irrespective of what said friend was really thinking, the man gets angry at not being congratulated. What's the fracas ? The only excuse the man comes up with is 'Well now she does'. What ? Penny's report of off screen conception activity elicits a silly 2012-Amy reaction and doesn't explain why she chose not to nip out to the pharmacy or raid her stock for a morning-after pill. We could speculate she was unsure and decided to leave things to fate and the stars. But that's not enough. It would have been in-character years ago, but now ? Leaving us to think of their lives going on is one thing, leaving us with a big gap is another.
  7. I wouldn't call any of those arrangements standard or classic. Most people are not nor ever have been kings or the serfs of medieval French peasants. That some have deviated from the normal model and still do so doesn't change the way the majority choose to live.
  8. That's the standard, classic world-wide view from time immemorial. My guess is most people on the planet if asked would say the same thing. It's obviously out of current fashion in a few pockets of the world where the cultural norm doesn't encourage it at present, especially in American sitcoms, but fashions come and go. ( Perhaps in a few years they'll revert to showing married couples in TV shows and films in single beds : ) ) Even Sheldon had a bit of a conscience about this : 'If my mother asks, we have bunk beds' and 'I don't think we're living in sin, but .......' Then when he was married he took it for granted that a sex life was going to be part of his present and future. And at episode S09E11 we'd known for seven months that Sheldon had a ring, not to mention they'd had discussions over the years about their future with children. 'Intentions were honourable' as the saying goes, or went. He wanted to hang on to Amy having only recently made up after a longish separation, sure, but on his own time line planned goodness-knows-when, it was probably around when he thought he'd be married. I've always thought his imagined marriage schedule was the reason he asked Amy about watching The Flash anyway. In California, if I understood the rules properly when I was reading them, if a couple have shared an address, living like a married couple for a number of weeks, they can be registered as such with no wedding or anything. They can even have the date hidden so if the neighbours check, nobody can find out how long a couple were 'brushing it'. Laws can be vague as to what a marriage is.
  9. Isn't 'ho' just an American shortening of 'whore' ? In my version of the English language a whore is not necessarily paid, it's just any woman like Penny used to be and never denied it, plus those women Leonard brought home, including Priya. The word for a man like that - Howard, Raj, and Leonard, for example, is rake, but it's most unfairly not used as often as it should be. Double standards. The word for someone who's paid is prostitute, which Penny wasn't, really, although she joked about free drinks and meals and so on. She was Kirk's mistress for six years but we don't know much about her life at that time. Six out of the seven of them are all married and faithful now, so their pasts whatever they were are behind them. Other people's sex lives are nobody else's business, true, unless we're seeing them in a sitcom. I don't have friends like that in real life - so far as I know.
  10. Context ! ie intent, emotion, family, moral or religious viewpoints, level of commitment, values, likely response to failed contraception etc
  11. Raj told Lucy he had 'psychologically diagnosable conditions' - or similar words. I'd like to know what caused his mutism and the anxiety that made him say stupid things in new social situations. We know he went to a high school 'for well-born boys' where he had somehow got away with not learning Hindi (some people are not good linguists. In Wales many schoolchildren just can't pick up Welsh and in England some native speakers of 'community' languages have a lot of difficulty learning English at school ) and yet as an adult he made friends with a competent polyglot. He and his friends dressed as superheroes and patrolled the town when they were not as young as they should have been. That's not much and his own versions of his youth could be as inaccurate as Sheldon's. I'd love a 'Young Raj' series to see what his life was like. He was obviously not the only highly-educable child in the family and there were few if any financial restrictions on what he could do, so his secondary psycho-social issues must have been very different from Sheldon's.
  12. That's a good explanation and a good question. I knew what the man was talking about, though. He ran a special school and had a doctorate but it would have been in what you'd think of as early days. The acceptance that there could be a range of autism that was wider than hitherto thought was relatively new then. It looks as though the terminology has changed a lot in the last few years. Perhaps that's the difference. The vocabulary seems more pinned down which to me must be better. That part of the diagnosis about hindering functioning or causing distress wasn't specified in my working lifetime and to me it seems very helpful. Young Sheldon says, 'I'm having a hard time adjusting to Earth'. So far as he's concerned at the age of nine, the world makes life difficult for him to understand. It somehow isn't as it's supposed to be and he doesn't know why, nor why other people are OK with it. At that point he's distressed. He copes by supposing he's the one who's right and everything or everyone that counteracts or contradicts his view is wrong. When he's in his thirties we see him begin to realise not all the issues/faults are external and he acknowledges that. He tells Penny and Leonard about his difficulties. Amy doesn't need telling. Sometimes Sheldon wants to get control and learn what is and isn't acceptable and sometimes he doesn't care. He was never written as a person with much generosity of spirit, even as a child. I'd be intetested to know what Raj's diagnoses were when he was growing up.
  13. We don't know how many times they did it before Sheldon said, 'I enjoyed that more than I thought I would' and she agreed it would last her until her next birthday.
  14. I thought they said they didn't want to commit themselves to any particular diagnosis one way or the other because that would restrict them when it came to script writing. The spectrum is very wide anyway. An expert once told me that most of us spend at least a part of our lives somewhere on it. It can be grown out of, apparently. I believe that. Miserable gits and well-intended people alike can be found there. If there's a spectrum of nastiness/niceness we can all guess near which end we'd find Sheldon.
  15. If she's still only a girlfriend after 15 years it doesn't sound as though they're interested in going anywhere with it.
  16. They didn't break up at all once they were engaged, nor for some time before that. There was a nonsensical near-break-up for 24 hours or so that some writer must have thought was funny at the beginning of the marriage,sure, but otherwise break-ups were just past events they referred to lightheartedly for the next five years.
  17. Wasn't she gradually getting him out of his ingrained habits ? She got him to ditch the bathroom schedule very early on in their cohabitation and on their honeymoon insisted their nookie had to have at least the appearance of spontaneity. She'll have to carry on like that. When they've got a house with more rooms and an outside space she'll be able to escape him if he gets too exhausting. I can see her rising to the challenge so long as he doesn't turn out to be an unacceptably damaging father. If he gets so bad she moves out she'll have to let him have sole charge of the kids at least alternate weekends and a month in the summer. She's not going to want to do that. She'll stay a good twenty five or thirty years until the kids have all left home and then if necessary lead more of a separate life but in a way that he doesn't notice.
  18. Not set in stone : the main men behind the series said they were leaving the final episode like any other, with the audience thinking about what was coming next. They said they wanted us to imagine the characters' lives going on. However, that doesn't mean anybody is going to undergo a vast personality change. They've all grown up before our eyes and they are who they are now. I agree with your disagreeing that Penny would leave Leonard. Leonard is not going to do anything bad enough to make Penny leave him and take the child(ren). Whatever else she might have been written to be over the twelve years, Penny's never been the sort of person who would break up her own child's family for no good reason and unless Leonard undergoes brain damage leading to a violent behaviour tendency, there's not going to be a good reason. A twenty-two-year-old flibbertigibbit leaving a long-term shack-up she's had enough of is not the same as a thirty-five-year-old mother deliberately rendering her offspring a broken home when there's nothing wrong with its father.
  19. It wasn't until I found this board between seasons eight and nine that I realised there were Lenny and Shamy factions and that they were taken seriously. It had never occurred to me there was going to be one focal couple, nor that it would be Lenny, considering there were three others. Lenny'd looked to me over the years since 2007 a typical American-sitcom on-again off-again until-they-were-permanently-on couple ; they were the least strange and the most stable. Raj's and Sheldon's personality issues inhibited them more than anything Leonard ever suffered from. It was interesting to me to watch them all grow up and meet their other halves and settle down or not as they matured. Of all the women's issues Amy's were the most challenging to overcome. And they put her with Sheldon. It's always struck me that if there was an audience sector that was tuning in to see how the pairings were developing, the couple most intriguing would be Shamy but that the others' peculiarities attracted interest in their own ways. I can see the appeal of Lenny's relative normality. Here's a tart with a heart who reforms and commits to man who has a brilliant mind and what's more who loves and appreciates her. Here's a man who sets his heart on a woman from the day he first sees her. He looks elsewhere when he thinks his chances with her are over but eventually realises she's still the only one and keeps trying. His persistence pays off and we see him happy for five more years with the woman he wooed and won. If Raj hadn't messed about, could he have found happiness ? That Howard so suddenly reduced his creepiness by 80 % was a big surprise. Did Bernadette copy his mother in order to hang on to him ? What did she see in him in the first place to make her do so ? I wonder if any rivalry between fans was intended by the writers and was it just on this board or widespread around the world ?
  20. I think the 'socially challenged, beautiful mind, quirk filled, condescending, elitist, intellectual snob' characterisation couldn't have lasted for ever with no improvement. Perhaps it does in real life but in fiction it wouldn't have made for a very popular story as the years went on. What's poignant in a little boy, and tolerable in a twenty-something scarcely-grown man, is not in the least interesting in a forty-year-old. I just wish, as they made him more aware of his shortcomings, they'd made him a bit nicer, even if it was only to Amy.
  21. Gosh ! I don't remember hearing about that. It all seems very badly organised. They were lucky the main cast hadn't already begun working elsewhere.
  22. Well they usually were finalised a few months in advance. For instance, IIRR the contracts for making seasons eleven and twelve were made towards the end of season ten, and the ones for making eight, nine and ten were announced towards the end of season seven. From what I've read in this forum, it seems to be the American way of doing things, based on who pays for what and when. I gather they didn't give them a three-year contract in case the popularity of TBBT declined against other shows. As it turned out there weren't any competing shows. Cost and income are key, apparently. This time the announcement there would be no season thirteen was made earlier than usual, in the September of season twelve, rather than the following April. It looks as though Jim Parsons was approached first and he said 'no'. Whether anyone else was asked, we have no way of knowing, but since Chuck Lorre always said he wouldn't carry on without Sheldon, my guess is that the financiers checked with Jim before asking the others.
  23. Quite ! I can't believe the apparent lack of preparedness. "Shock horror, what a surprise, the last season contracted-for is the last season after all, whatever shall we write now ? " In past possibly-last seasons they'd plodded on for a few weeks during the uncertainty while they were waiting to hear whether there was going to be another contract, promising us they could wrap the whole thing up in one episode if need be. This time they were aware of their position for once really early on. At worst in August they could have thought up alternative plots in advance for if the series was or wasn't renewed. But they didn't. Since they were determined to give us that awful episode three regardless, they had months in which to explore Penny's attitude and use Zack for something else other than that episode-wasting, time-consuming rubbish about sperm donation, which wasn't even funny apart from one line, 'Or Penny if it's a girl'.
  24. Certainly looks like Amy, could very well be Mayim.
  25. Goodness only knows why they dreamed up that time-wasting ridiculous arc that led nowhere. Those minutes could have been better spent on exploring Penny's reasons for not wanting a family. All we got was Leonard's unreasonably angry ' Well now she does' on the plane.
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