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Also, they seemed to insinuate it was some kind of a "wild, popular teenage girl" thing to do, a little adventure of hers. I can't believe they did that, and also got away with it like that. A few years later they may have gotten far greater protest for that. This Luther guy is the one who should be deemed responsible for that, and might be considered a rapist or sexual offender.
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The Luther jokes were in very poor taste. Not unlike the aftermath of the Raj fiasco, where the show places the blame on Penny and the way alcohol makes her a promiscuous monster, apparently, and somehow her actions at such condition are to be judged as if she were 100% sober and concious. In many cases, I think the writers treated the Penny character poorly. She was often more like The Popular Girl™ than a real person, with human thought processes and feelings. They seem to have projected their own perceptions and feelings toward this Popular Girl idea, instead of trying to see things from the Penny character's perspective. Relatedly, I've always thought it would've been better if the show had more female writers... It seems like it was something of a boys' club, with something like 9 man and 3 women in ther writers' room, even when they started expanding on the female characters. They'd also have the chance to explore more grounded, common fears with Leonard and Penny, especially with her being pregnant.
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Thank you guys!
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Does Penny's Have Borderline Personality Disorder?
bfm replied to Darkjuliet4444's topic in The Show
To put simply, no. None of Penmy's behaviors that you described (and none of those you did not describe) is at a level to be considered a symptom of BPD. Also, although they had their ups and downs, I do not think you can consider Leonard and Penny's relationship very "unstable" (especially later on), and she does not idealize nor degrade him. I hope you're doing well and taking care of yourself, by the way, knowing that BPD can be challenging to handle. If you're looking for a representation of BPD in comedy, I highly recommend Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. -
I don't like the name Elliot, I took liberty of using other names in my fic(s) 😄 Since there weren't any final names mentioned we're free to imagine what we we'd like 🤷♀️
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If you could, what would you change about whole BBT?
bfm replied to Davidxrd's topic in Season 12 (Final Season)
The whole no-kids fiasco. What a load of... And The Boat Kiss And the Raj and Penny (non-consensual) make-out, as well... There are a lot of other things but these were the worst, IMO -
Thank you! Glad some people are still reading 🤭
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Yeah... that didn't work. But hey, I finally finished that chapter! If anybody's still interested, here it is: 29. Decisions - Max POV - After finishing his finals, Max is about to make a big decision, but there's someone special who makes a big impact on his decision, and himself.
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The show is full of inconsistencies, some more ridiculous than others, like Penny blaming Leonard for them living with Sheldon when a year before we see her convince Leonard to live with Sheldon...
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Well, going back to the original question of this thread, I think Sheldon's a very Enlightment guy. As for Sheldon as a parent, IMO of course he'd be "unusual", and he'd have many challenges, he's Sheldon. But I don't think he'd be so bad.
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Sheldon is not good at understanding facial expressions, so I do think it was too much to expect him to realize Penny was excited (the girls did), but he could've at least asked if she was upset. That wouldn't be the best response, for sure, but it is something within Sheldon's capabilities.
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They didn't give an explanation as to why Penny didn't want to have kids because there wasn't any. It was just their way to make the pregnancy announcement unexpected. One of the writers said that (the second part). So we might as well forget 12×03, it didn't really involve any character work, it was all driven by out-of-narrative factors and it didn't fit well with the already established narrative.
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The thing about the "Penny doesn't want kids" storyline was, it was just a (IMO unbelievably terrible) way for them to make the pregnancy announcement in the finale a surprise. This is not a guess, one of the writers straight out said that. Apparently they did not think this through, not even a little bit. This is a very serious issue that shouldn't have been dealt this way ("Oh hey Penny just got up one morning and decided she doesn't want to have kids even though she did before, and it just happened, just like that, because her character is not supposed to resemble an actual human. Also because of that, she'd just get pregnant and everything would be totally fine 'cause who cares about the message we send about people who actually don't want kids. Oh, and in the meantime, here's a very weird, and goofy to a disrespectful level, story about Zack wanting heartbroken Leonard's sperm.") I think being this successful, and going on for so long, just made the writers complacent. They just didn't think things through.
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Darn it... I haven't been around so I missed some birthdays... Here are my belated congratulations @Tensor and @veejay. Hope you had wonderful days and have many, even better, days to come.
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Haven't been here that much, but here's a belated happy birthday @chucky
