smartandbeautiful

Agreed! I'd love to watch a family spin-off with Lenny, Zack, Marissa and a bunch of kids

I guess the writers just decided to hold off until the very end to get on the fans’ nerves. Since they can’t play will they/won’t they card with any of the main couples anymore (we have Raj and Anu, but at this point I don’t think anyone really cares about them), they turned ‘will they/won’t they ever be together’ into ‘will they/won’t they ever have kids’. Personally it makes me really sad, especially if the answer will be ‘they won’t’.

This is not surprising, just sad. They could’ve stopped with Lenny’s kids issue in 12x03, but no, they kept raising it in those weird plots and giving the fans hope (I actually thought Zack’s plot would change Penny’s mind or at least let her explain why she decided not to have kids). And now, after all this, what do we get? Probably Lenny still standing behind their kitchen island, observing everyone else having families, Nobel Prizes, great career achievements, etc.

So we suffered 15 episodes to end up with this... wow, I had no idea these writers are so cruel 😭😭😭😭😭 I’m extremely sad

Wow... 😒

That made me feel much better, thank you for this 😅

Idk, for me it was the same as 12x03 - Leonard still wants to have kids, but agrees not to for Penny. Soooo...

That makes me so sad, cause you might be right 😭 though I still hope they will talk it out and have a happy family in the finale episode! Right now Leonard is pretty heartbroken, and I also don’t get why they did that storyline with Zack with no result at the end...

I think here Penny finally realized how bad her husband wants to be a dad

This episode got me really confused. Don’t understand what’s going on with Penny, first she doesn’t want kids out of the blue, then supports her husband’s decision to donate, but at the same time tries to ruin it WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATION. I don’t buy her ‘it’s weird’. Yes, the situation is pretty unusual, but she already told Leonard she’d be okay with him doing it, so... what’s the reason to change her mind? Why is she being like that? On the other side, I liked how Wyatt eventually didn’t pressure Penny and just told her about his concerns of her ‘missing out’. Exactly the kind of talk Lenny should have, where Penny explains her fears or whatever reasons of her decisions. Love that Leonard stood up for Penny, but this time I feel like he’s still doing all the effort in their relationship. No, I’m not saying that Penny should compromise and have kids if she doesn’t want to, but it would’ve been better if we saw the reason why she was trying to sabotage the donation. Even if she told him something like Amy did, with ‘it still not going to be your kid’, would’ve been better. That way we could at least see what’s on Penny’s mind. But now it’s a complete mystery to me. Of course, the ‘kids or no kids’ thingy will probably be the grey area until the very end of the show. And eventually Lenny will probably have them (yay positivism), but I really want them to have a serious discussion first to finally understand Penny. Cause right now I just can’t :((

You’re right, I just love to speculate 😂

Agree, I’d prefer them to have a deep meaningful conversation as well instead, but what can we do 😂

Idk, if she was just uncomfortable she could say it, imo, it could be something much deeper this time (at least I hope so)

Oh so sorry, didn't know that, gonna check the rules now 🙈

Yaaaay we'll even get a scene in the bedroom! I can't wait for 12x15!!