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  1. Penny getting upset with Leonard was justified before she cheated on her assignment. After she cheated, it just made her look like an idiot. Isn't the idea of her going to school about her bettering herself? Her cheating ruins that. I would have preferred her doing the assignment herself and getting a D. She could be proud of that.
  2. I don't think that Sheldon found Penny's mocking to be funny. His response implied to me that he thought that the impersonation was realistic. I have also been around physicists most of my life. My degree is in physics and my father was a nuclear physicist. I'll grant that there is always a certain amount of ribbing between people of different disciplines, but nothing like what Sheldon does to Leonard.
  3. I found that in the earlier seasons, Sheldon would say insulting things inadvertently. His reaction after people acted insulted was alway one of surprise. As well, the things he said could be seen to be mistakes based on his worldview so one could forgive him. Now he just seems to be mean. The writing has changed and it no longer seems that he is just mis-speaking. That being said, this aspect of Sheldons behaviour always annoyed me. His relentless belittling of Leonards work seems to be mixed with a disrespect for experimental physics itself which leads me to think that he doesn't accept the scientific process. However, getting back to this specific episode, there is no way that Sheldon could realistically think that Penny's mocking was a good impersonation of Leonard. Leonard has never acted like that in any episode. The implication then, is that Penny's act was in line with Sheldons opinion of Leonard which is not based on evidence, but rather a deep seated disrespect for Leonard verging on disgust. So it looks like we agree 67%. Not 'romantic Sheldon', not 'evolved Sheldon', just a$$hat Sheldon. The thing is that I just can't see this as funny.
  4. Good point, although I have given up expecting that the writers would be in any way consistent with the characters so this kind of washed over me without much reaction. I'm also begining to doubt that Sheldon is meant to be very smart or honourable at all, contributing to my lack of reaction. After reading some of the previous posts on this thread, I was again surprised at what some people think is funny. Sheldons comment that Penny's mocking of Leonard sounded just like Leonard was identified as being funny. Hmmmm, curiouser and curiouser.
  5. Just saw this episode. Did I see this right? Did Penny really cheat on her assignment and then deceive Leonard about it in a mocking way? Isn't Penny supposed to like Leonard now? Are they gearing up for yet another breakup? How does cheating on an assignment have anything to do with Penny "bettering herself"? And then on top of that, Sheldon again belittled Leonard by sincerely telling him that Pennys mocking sounded just like him. What an a$$hat.
  6. So, did anyone else notice that Sheldon's spiderman quote to Amy was way off base? Sheldon: Amy, when I look in your eyes and you're looking back in mine, everything feels not quite normal. I feel stronger and weaker at the same time. I feel excited and, at the same time, terrified. The truth is, I don't know what I feel, except I know what kind of man I want to be. Sure, Sheldon may have meant that he is somewhat confused about his feelings, but if this was meant to be from the heart, "what kind of man I want to be" implies that Sheldon has done some soul searching and found that there are self-improvements to be made. But we know that this is ridiculous. Sheldon is the supreme egotist. There is no way that he thinks that he should improve or change himself because of his relationship with Amy. So my take on this is that Sheldon was BS'ing. He knew that Amy wanted him to say something and he just pulled this out said it without really meaning it. Amy should have kept walking.
  7. Hi netmouse. Only a very occasional lurk these days for me. This was the first episode I've seen this season and I was surprised at the positive reception from some people. I see that you were about as impressed as I was. Oh well. I wasn't really expecting much. I'll watch another episode or two this season to see how things are progressing, but I problably won't be lurking around here much anymore. Too many LG members for me. See you in the bit stream.
  8. This is astonishing. Last nights show was the first one I've seen this season and I thought I'd come to the forum to read posts trashing it. But, here I am and it looks like some people actually found it to be funny. I'll agree that there were a couple of mildly humorous bits, but overall the show made me cringe.
  9. In reality geeks quote sources on a regular basis. Sheldon NOT quoting one source or another when defining a word would seem odd to me.
  10. It probably doesn't mean anything, but you have to wonder if Kaley is upset about Mayim pushing her out as the lead female on the show.
  11. 4ofN

    prady on season 6

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's a perfectly valid demand. I would contest this only on the grounds Penny isn't dumb. I don't think Penny is dumb either but we now understand the issue; it's never really been science vs. relationships. It's not about science at all. It's about keeping the original fantasy of 4 unattractive guys yearning for the hot blonde neighbor & maybe getting lucky. And I agree with Pomita that's entirely valid. Start up a thread. state your premise [the original fantasy] & enjoy yourselves. You know, we might be getting somewhere with this. (Or not..) Not to rain on the humour parade, but just so this doesn't become "canon", I'd like to point out that this isn't it at all.
  12. I just discovered Minecraft. Interesting take on gaming after all the first person shooters. I love the fact that you can build things that you can use. Obligatory TBBT reference: I imagine that Sheldon would like Minecraft as it might appeal to his sense of order. Everything you build ends up clean and neat with right angles and everything fits together.
  13. I think people have picked Friends for comparison because everyone has heard of it and it was all about friendships (relationships). That was the point of that show. It seems like an obvious choice to me as the parallel in terms of relationship focus seems so clear to those of us who don't like that growing aspect of TBBT. I can understand why people who like relationship focused shows wouldn't see it in the same way. The relationships on TBBT - especially shamy - are quite different from those on Friends. But then what show does have relationships like those on TBBT? If that was a requirement for the comparison, then there couldn't be one. The similarity is in the relationship focus - how much time is spent per episode on relationships. Also in how much conflict and negativity that the relationships bring to the show. I know, I know, "conflict and negativity" are loaded words. Some might say instead "complexity and opportunities for character growth". It all depends on whether you enjoy that sort of thing. This is an interesting argument. You mean that being in real relationships brings more 'conflict and negativity' than being relentlessly frustrated by the unsuccessful pursuit of the opposite sex? Relationships don't necessarily mean conflict and negativity. It's just that that seems to be what sells. I wouldn't mind the relationships as much if they were happy. But we get the Penny / Leonard on/off/on/off relationship drama. We get Raj and Penny hooking up. We get Priya heading back to India without telling Leonard until the last minute and then sleeping with someone else. We get Penny hooking up with Zack for New Years even though she doesn't really like him. We get Leonard trying to figure out how to hook up with Comic book girl while trying to stay hooked up with Priya. We get a Raj / Howard / whoever threesome that almost derails the wedding. We get Sheldon propositioning Amy when Amy is on a date with Stuart. We get Raj whining and bitching because he can't hook up with anyone. Etc. Etc. Etc. And then they say "Oh gee, these are supposed to be geek scientists so we'll throw Hawking in and pretend that his cameo gives the show geek cred".
  14. Then why Friends, in particular? I would think there are dozens of shows, past and present, which depict relationships. (In fact almost all of them). The 'Friends' allegation would be justified only if the relationships on this show are somehow identical or very similar to the relationships on Friends. And at least the Shamy relationship is very, very far from it. As Sursonica says, the Leonard/Penny relationship can still be compared with the Friends style. I think people have picked Friends for comparison because everyone has heard of it and it was all about friendships (relationships). That was the point of that show. It seems like an obvious choice to me as the parallel in terms of relationship focus seems so clear to those of us who don't like that growing aspect of TBBT. I can understand why people who like relationship focused shows wouldn't see it in the same way. The relationships on TBBT - especially shamy - are quite different from those on Friends. But then what show does have relationships like those on TBBT? If that was a requirement for the comparison, then there couldn't be one. The similarity is in the relationship focus - how much time is spent per episode on relationships. Also in how much conflict and negativity that the relationships bring to the show. I know, I know, "conflict and negativity" are loaded words. Some might say instead "complexity and opportunities for character growth". It all depends on whether you enjoy that sort of thing. Hmm. This thread is called "Sheldon and Amy's relationship in Season 6?". That sounds like a general purpose kind of thread to me. Perhaps it should have been called "Fluffy Shamy Bunnies" instead so we would all know that it is limited to lollipop guild members. Note that the "I seriously hate AFF" had its share of posts defending Amy. The defenders may have been debated, but they weren't told stop posting on the thread.
  15. It isn't that the Shamy relationship (or the other relationships on TBBT) is like the relationships on Friends. It is that the Shamy relationship exists at all that is part of turning TBBT into Friends. That is where the Friends comparisons are coming from. The equivalence is that Friends was about relationships and now TBBT is also mostly about relationships. That is the point of contention (for some of us). The time spent on relationships generally is crowding out the other aspects of the show that some of us were attracted to in the first place.
  16. @sarah7. Your argument is invalid. There have been threads like "I seriously hate Amy Farrah Fowler" where people posted positive things. Or in the thread "Season premier. Awful, obnoxious, stupid, uncomfortable." some people actually posted that they disagreed (oh the horror). The fact is that in a discussion you are going to have both pro and con positions. You are free to argue the positions, but not to insist that people keep quiet.
  17. Don't forget that people with disenting opinions get hounded out. It might take a while, but people who don't like things that others do like eventually get tired of it bucking the trend. Case in point. Almost all of the people who don't like what they have done to TBBT have stopped posting on this forum and now the forum is becoming a giant love in. The members of this board have now become just as much a "conformity of critics".
  18. Hahahaa!! I love it! Get the nerds out of their shells and dance! Smile! Pull a groin muscle-..? ok, maybe not too much dancing... So this is what it's come to. Character consistency be damned! We're making fun of nerds here. Yee haw Lol. Nerds. They be hilarious.
  19. What Leonard needs is to move to the east coast. Maybe get a job at a university in Boston or something. That way he can stop mooning over Penny, find some real friends and get on with his life.
  20. 4ofN

    prady on season 6

    it was all relationship because the interviewer only asked about the relationships. That doesn't mean that is gonna be all about relationships. Good point. In fact the writers are, in general, careful to state that there will be enough science/geeky stuff too - that's what they said before season 5. They lied, then. Season five was the most relationship-heavy and the least geeky thus far. Even those who prefer the relationships admit that. For me, since the Sheldon/Amy relationship rings perfectly true to the 'geeky flavor' of the show, I didn't really notice it as such. They did try to keep the science/geek aspect in other ways too, where they could give a nod to it, like space travel and Star Wars weekends and brain dissections and Sheldon presenting a Higgs paper to Hawkings. Leonard/Penny was brought into the limelight a little but not as much as in season 3, for example. What did feel a little relationship-heavy to me was the focus on Howard/Bernadette storylines, which I find I don't enjoy that much. But I'm expecting there will be less of that in season 6, since most of their issues were a build-up to their marriage. As in real life, things should settle down and be less 'eventful' after marriage. Unfortunatly, Prady is saying "that Howard and Bernadette's marriage will be an important part of season six". Sounds to me like you'll get more rather than less.
  21. News flash. The show has already lost its roots. From everything I've read that Prady, Lorrie and the gang have said recently, the show is firmly headed down the relationship path. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to return to "the other aspects of nerd culture".
  22. Having Leonard and Penny in a relationship full of conflict is really what the show is all about now. I think they have made it very clear that this is now a show about relationships - the humour and geek culture are all but gone. Their relationship will remain a train wreck until the end of the series due to the fact that most viewers want this. They want conflict. Why do you think shows like the Kardashians are popular? People want to see people doing stupid things. Usually it is stupid people doing stupid things. Now they have a show about supposedly smart people doing stupid things. Woo hoo - ratings!
  23. The problem is that Leonard's mother doesn't think he is very smart at all.
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    prady on season 6

    (that's what she said) If I click on it, it becomes full sized and readable. If you keep clicking it gets even bigger. Keep clicking Keep clicking Ah, thats good.
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