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  1. I love Leonard, I do, but I don't get his rationale here. Why does he feel he has to give up his intellectual integrity because his girlfriend believes in psychics? That makes no sense. For one thing, what couple shares every single belief? Beyond that, Penny isn't stupid, it's not like she'd be surprised to find that Leonard thinks it's nonsense. All she did was ask him not to laugh at her, and he behaved like a jackass. "The most obnoxious person on a double date that included Howard Wolowitz" - LOL!

    I agree with everything you said, maybe we know now why Leonard couldn't get a girl all these years, he has his perfect dream girl in Penny but realizes she doesn't fit in his box he has her in and what's with him wanting his girlfriend to have the exact same interests as him if he wants that then he's going to be dating less hot, I don't know why that Penny believes in psychics is that shocking when she first met him and Sheldon she tells them she believes in astrology.

  2. This episode is on right now and truth be told, what the guys did to Sheldon was really unforgivable. Just mean. I don't find it amusing at all that they let it go as far as they did - I can see messing with him for a few days up in the Arctic, but to let him come home thinking he'd really proved something groundbreaking? That's not funny. :icon_frown:

    I love everything with Sheldon's mother and it's still a funny episode, but this one really toes a line.

    I totally agree with you too many people on here just brush it off or try to downplay it, what made me so upset is there really was no reason for it, they said he was being difficult did they just met him? It was just brushed off like no big deal, and Leonard could've cared less all he cared about is Sheldon was affecting his alone time with Penny(which what is that about all of a sudden she's hot and heavy for him, did they get the script from a porn writer? Talk about just throwing a couple together and not having them lead up to them getting together), talk about lacking compassion just his academic integrity is damanaged and might never be repaired. If I was Sheldon I'd kick Leonard out and throw his stuff out on the street andconvince Penny to take my side(not that it would take much).


    Not to mention Leonard wasn't even the one that told him it was raj and Howard and Leonard just brushes it off and then in Texas the guys give him some lame apology.


    I completely agree Steve. Leonard deserved to get smacked this episode. And for some reason Sheldon's mom seemed a lot more mean. also, Sheldon seemed a lot more emotional, which was good, but got tiresome after a while. Raj is the one character who doesn't disappoint. I love his one-liners! And also, penny. She was a better friend to Sheldon than Leonard was! overall the episode wasn't that great, but it had it's moments.

    Once again:

    BAD P/L!!!

    1. What the hell happened to sweet Leonard? the nice one who wouldn't (as Steve stated) take advantage of Penny? I know we said to get a backbone, but to Penny, not his friends. He refuses to even think about anything but sleeping with Penny. And karma made it so the sex was bad. :p Sorry Leonard.

    2. LMAO At peoples reactions to the beard kiss. Obviously Penny is a furry-lover!! xD

    This Leonard might had taken advantage of penny at the party if he thought it would lead to sex, right about the karma but shouldn't the sex be bad when he's involved, and what the crap was the speech about at the end, those are normally the best relationships.


    Yay, finally found a way to see the episode! And although I didn't want to believe it, when I read your comments on it: Leonard IS a jerk

    But to his defense: He waited so long for Penny to feel about him the way she suddenly does, when he returns... He was probably afraid she might change her mind again.... I can totally understand that!

    Anyway, I hope he goes back to the way we know him. And I hope they're going to recover from all the weirdness. :D

    I love Sheldon in that episode and I really love the scenes with his mother, where he is always forced to pray and respect religion. Haha, I don't think he'd be doing that for anyone but his mom!!

    Then Leonard shouldn't went, want he did to Sheldon and getting with penny are separate Sheldon isn't keeping them apart.


    I laughed so hard when Sheldon said: 'I don't have a sad-song, I'm not a child'.

    soo funny

    I think the episode was pretty good, great perfomance by Laurie Metcalf too. 'Just pretend he's Chinese' and 'Evolution is your opinion', are there really Texans who are so backwards and won't recognise the truth??

    (this is a question I want answered :p)

    I'm not sure what you're asking are you saying religion is backwards or just Christians? Texas is in the bible belt and has the highest churches per capita in the country, not everything scientific or evolution is a fact, you have your beliefs and they have theirs.

  3. To be fair it is Sheldons apartment so he can set the rules to how he wants and people (penny) should accept it, was another good episode though

    It doesn't mean he can control his friends, I don't know anyone that has a set of rules or hands out strikes for his friends.

  4. So you were proud of him being a douche? I had no problem disagreeing with her views but he went about the wrong way and look bad in her eyes.

    A scientist having trouble believing that someone actually believes in astrology is not being a douche, he's being a man of science and reason. If it offends someone like Penny that much she could always stop going over to Leonard and Sheldon's apartment. Since she didn't stop going over and she is dating Leonard again so obviously she didn't think he was acting like a douche. Either that or she wants Leonard so badly that she is willing to overlook his "douche" like behavior. Maybe she just isn't that sensitive.


    Let me guess, it's the whole "Leonard is terrible to Penny because he made fun of her believing in astrology" thing, isn't it? There is so much that he could be critical of her on, and isn't, such as loose morals, poor money management, excessive drinking, stealing services (wifi), stealing from Good Will, being a slob, and mooching meals. Leonard doesn't criticize her for any of those things. But he has problems believing that anyone is serious about astrology and he is a bad person. One episode in how many years? Maybe she should just run to Sheldon's arms, he never criticizes her for anything. (Imagine me holding up a sarcasm sign at this point).

    Oh shut up look in the mirror before you critize someone, I have no problem with Leonard not believing in astrology but his behavior was unacceptable, you act like Leonard is some saint and has such high morals, guess what he doesn't, maybe he should get a medal for not just being her friend/neighbor but putting up with her while they dated(sarcasm), why don't he get back together with Priya with their "perfect morals" and they can be happy together.


    Oh shut up? What a comeback! Look in the mirror before I criticize (correct way to spell the word) someone? Who was I criticizing? Why don't (should be doesn't) he get back together with Priya.......... He doesn't get back together with Priya because he is now with Penny, although Priya would be a much better match for him. Evidently Penny wants to be with Leonard. I guess she just has low standards or she just wants some of that good physicist loving (holding up sarcasm sign).

    What are you watching where you think priya is a good person and perfect for Leonard?

    Maybe Penny wants to be with Leonard because he won't hurt her or cheat on her and is with him because she feels safe and secure.

    Btw you're missing my point about the astrology it's not wheter he believes it or not( why is he surprised did he forget the first time he and Sheldon met her in the apt. and mentions her sign?) it's his behavior about it you can say "Penny I don't believe in that since I'm a scientist and need proof." but I respect your opinon and beliefs even if I don't agree with them(since he didn't maybe he doesn't respect her opinon or beliefs.) but no she says don't laugh and he does and makes her feel bad, when Howard knows you screwed up you screwed up.

  5. Good grief Rick they wake up in bed naked it's not hard to figure out what happened even if they don't remember, now she didn't specify how long they were broken up so I'm going to go with just broke up recently and I know it's hard to believe penny doesn't run out and grab a new guy the minute she's single, your putting words and thoughts into leonard's mouth and head and since he lives he lives across the hall would know if she's been out with anyone so the fact that not only does Penny tells him it's his and not only does he believe her but marries her should be good enough.

  6. @owlinaz, that was a masterful analysis. I also like the way you picked up on Penny's hand holding. I certainly do hope as BangerMain said that it is a breakthrough for Penny and Leonard. It is time to quit the all too common break up and get back together for those two. That's such a common theme in relationships. This is a nerd show after all, we want to see something more complex.

    Move Penny and Leonard to a new level and have the two of them dealing with issues like the musician friend that was going to sleep on her couch. That was a good way to resolve it. For him to sleep on Leonard's couch instead. Let Leonard keep an eye on a rival but still keep Penny happy by giving her friend a place to stay. Compromise.

    I can't agree totally with ekap2 that it's against Sheldon's character. It's been one of the underlying themes of the show of personal growth in all the characters. Howard is the most obvious example of this. Sheldon has the furthest to travel to normality but everyone needs to grow and mature, even Sheldon.

    Combining Raj coming out of the closet with a girl that seems to be a guy then comes out as a girl is a tremendous idea. Make Raj think he's gay then find out the guy he's attracted to is a girl. Great idea.

    Perhaps we do read too much into the show but that's the fun of it. That's why we become involved because we can see ourselves in the characters.

    Yes lets recycle l/p ideas:

  7. Cut out all of my original post...As I was reading the threads, I realized something else very different that had occurred...In the final scene of season 5, where the handholding happens, it occurs to me that I can't remember ever seeing Penny hold hands with anyone. She may have had 'coitus' with guys, especially Leonard...But I just don't remember ever seeing her hold hands with anyone, and certainly not in the way she did it with Leonard in this scene. This might represent a breakthrough for her in dealing with her inability to emotionally commit. For many people, coitus is the ultimate sharing and vulnerability, but I get the feeling that because of Penny's past, coitus is more physical than emotional. But holding hands, especially with her taking the initiative, could be a reset back to an emotional connection.

    Then again, it's just a TV show, and we may ALL be reading way to much into these characters...then again, maybe not :)

    It was a break through and it was meant to be seen as that, I believe. Penny isn't going to let go of Leonard anymore (thanks to her emotional train wreak in Season 4) but that does not mean smooth sailing for Leonard. He's got to deal with her fears up close and personal in Season 6.

    Yeah Leonard needs to stop running away or thinking it's about him when dealing with Penny.

  8. You don't think two people getting so drunk that they can't remember what they did the night before end up getting married because the woman gets pregnant? Under the conditions given in the post, they weren't even seeing each other any more. Yes there is a very good chance that a child born and raised by a binge drinker will have health issues and yes there will be allot of angst if for no other reason then Leonard would have to wonder if Penny went out the next night and once again got so drunk that she couldn't remember what happened and ended up sleeping with someone else.

    Getting married cuz you got knocked up, one of the world's stupidest ideas ever of all time, I agree. Just because Penny would be a single mom makes her kid's life ruined, I disagree. Saying a binge drinker may be a bad parent, I agree. Saying the conception happened while drunk makes the child sick, I disagree, and that's just a silly thing to say. Not sure what you mean by angst. You implied that would be on the child, now you're saying it would be on Leonard? We're talking about Penny and Raj, Leonard has nothing to do with it.

    Penny being a single mother was never part of the equation. Someone who has a history of drinking to the point of forgetfulness more then once is a binge drinker. Getting married because Penny got pregnant after a night of Penny and Leonard got too drunk to remember the night will cause angst between them. Leonard being unsure if the child was even his would cause angst to him. That type of angst between the parents cannot be completely hidden from the child and will cause angst to the child.

    Now you're implying that Leonard isn't sure it's his.

  9. You don't think two people getting so drunk that they can't remember what they did the night before end up getting married because the woman gets pregnant? Under the conditions given in the post, they weren't even seeing each other any more. Yes there is a very good chance that a child born and raised by a binge drinker will have health issues and yes there will be allot of angst if for no other reason then Leonard would have to wonder if Penny went out the next night and once again got so drunk that she couldn't remember what happened and ended up sleeping with someone else.

    Just on a side note, I think that after the Raj incident, Penny's drinking to the point of not being able to remember what happened is over.

    I was wondering when you would start taking shots at penny, for the record the post was about l/p had a drunken hookup and she got pregnant not sure what the rest of your post has anything to do with it.

    Penny would be a great mother and she wouldn't be going out getting drunk with a child, some people.

  10. For people that are so against this I'm intrigued of the 51 pages of posts.

    Sheldon is polarizing, if anything.

    Another reason Penny wouldn't date him - he'd be thrilled this thread was 50 pages and personally create 20 accounts so he could get it up to 100 pages immediately. Egotistic combined with the social skills of a rock is a dangerous combo.

    I don't see how him being polarizing is a reason for her not to date him, but Sheldon's response of course she would want to date him he a superior species.

  11. For people that are so against this I'm intrigued of the 51 pages of posts.

    Never ending debate, lol. All it takes is that one person to say they are for and you've got what we have now. because then someone eventually agrees with that one person and then eventually you get a somehow equally debate. All in good fun and interesting conversation, I dig it.

    For those arriving late, the following is a summary of this thread so far.

    A: I'm right

    B: No. I'm right.

    A: What are you talking about. You're wrong and I'm right.

    B: lol. No. I'm right.

    A: How can you say that? I'm right

    B: No I'm right.

    ...

    B: How can you think that? Obviously I'm right.

    A: Why are you such a poo-poo head? I'm right.

    B: You're the poo-poo head. I'm right.

    ...

    Tripper: Some of the posts have been deleted. Please be civil.

    ...

    A: I'm right

    B: No. I'm right.

    EDIT: Actually a summary of many threads.

    Lol

  12. Its just that since the writers did Raj / Penny, they could do anything regardless of rationality, consistency, or concern for the burden on the characters futures.

    Thats what annoys me about Amy hitting on Penny. It used to be that you would never consider that they would actually put Penny and Amy together. Now, who knows, Penny / Sheldon? Raj / Bernadette? Sheldon / Leonards mother? Anything at all is possible.

    As sick as it may be Leonard's mother might be better for Sheldon than Amy. In season 4 Amy was just like Sheldon.

    This isn't sick, this is The Big Bang Theory. Obviously the title of the show has several meanings. One is that the word "Big" refers to "grownups" and this obviously implies that the idea of inter-generational relationships was "canon" from the shows inception.

    After all, just imagine the humour and character growth that would happen if Sheldon took on the role of Leonard’s father.

    Frankly the possibility had never occurred to me and Sheldon does seem to almost worship Leonard's mother. I have to admit that there could be some very humorous scenes if Sheldon was Leonard's step father. That's one father and son talk that I would like to see. I would also like to see Sheldon's mother meeting her new daughter-in-law.

    :D Please note here that 4ofN is using /sarcasm.

    Are you sure?

  13. They didnt have sex. Look up the defintion. I don't like what happened at all, but they didnt have sex.

    That's the same kind of mentality uber christian girls use to have anal and oral sex and still be able to say they are a virgin. They didn't have intercourse, but they had a sexual encounter. She gave him a handjob.

    I don't know if you could call it a "job", sounded more like a "tweak".

    I never understand why it can be called a job or a blow when there's sucking.

  14. They didnt have sex. Look up the defintion. I don't like what happened at all, but they didnt have sex.

    That's the same kind of mentality uber christian girls use to have anal and oral sex and still be able to say they are a virgin. They didn't have intercourse, but they had a sexual encounter. She gave him a handjob.

    I think it's just high school girls in general that want to still say they're virgins.

  15. What does one have to do with the other???

    Its just that since the writers did Raj / Penny, they could do anything regardless of rationality, consistency, or concern for the burden on the characters futures.

    Thats what annoys me about Amy hitting on Penny. It used to be that you would never consider that they would actually put Penny and Amy together. Now, who knows, Penny / Sheldon? Raj / Bernadette? Sheldon / Leonards mother? Anything at all is possible.

    As sick as it may be Leonard's mother might be better for Sheldon than Amy. In season 4 Amy was just like Sheldon.

    This isn't sick, this is The Big Bang Theory. Obviously the title of the show has several meanings. One is that the word "Big" refers to "grownups" and this obviously implies that the idea of inter-generational relationships was "canon" from the shows inception.

    After all, just imagine the humour and character growth that would happen if Sheldon took on the role of Leonard’s father.

    Frankly the possibility had never occurred to me and Sheldon does seem to almost worship Leonard's mother. I have to admit that there could be some very humorous scenes if Sheldon was Leonard's step father. That's one father and son talk that I would like to see. I would also like to see Sheldon's mother meeting her new daughter-in-law.

    Yes he admires Leonard's mother and her work but he looked disgusted when she kissed him plus Mary Cooper would throw holy water on the both.

  16. So their intent was for the shock factor and upset and freak people out? They might not had done the deed due to Raj's excitement(can't blame for it), most people wouldn't be the didn't have sex that's okay, the reason I think they intended for it was because of season 5 premiere and had to do something due to the reaction, the had all summer and even said whatever side you were on the outcome will leave you happy, unless their intent really was for them to be in bed but didn't go through but almost did.

  17. What does one have to do with the other???

    Its just that since the writers did Raj / Penny, they could do anything regardless of rationality, consistency, or concern for the burden on the characters futures.

    Thats what annoys me about Amy hitting on Penny. It used to be that you would never consider that they would actually put Penny and Amy together. Now, who knows, Penny / Sheldon? Raj / Bernadette? Sheldon / Leonards mother? Anything at all is possible.

    IMO I believe Lorre wanted to have Raj/Penny have sex and then he saw the reaction he got and that's why we got the lame "resolution" for season 5 ep.1

  18. What does one have to do with the other???

    Its just that since the writers did Raj / Penny, they could do anything regardless of rationality, consistency, or concern for the burden on the characters futures.

    Thats what annoys me about Amy hitting on Penny. It used to be that you would never consider that they would actually put Penny and Amy together. Now, who knows, Penny / Sheldon? Raj / Bernadette? Sheldon / Leonards mother? Anything at all is possible.

    Didn't Amy's constant hitting on Penny didn't happen until season 5 which was after Penny/Raj?

  19. No... It's not scientific or logical thought. Its comparing two FICTIONAL television shows.

    I'm NOT comparing two shows at all. I'm compairing two SITUATIONS to refute the argument that "TV show creaters never (ever, evah, LOL) change their minds, or lie to the fans, or do something which they previously promised they will not do".

    The two SITUATIONS - creators saying "this will never happen" and actors saying "ewwww" - are IDENTICAL. Actually, the "disgust" and denials were much more vocal from the creators of Buffy than anything we've ever heard from the creators of TBBT. :icon_cheesygrin:

    So my point stands. When it comes to TV shows, Never. Say. Never. :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

    Of course never say never. Maybe the writers will go back on what they say, maybe the show will bomb and they'll be desparate enough. My issue with the shennys is they seem to care about little else.

    I totally disagree I care about more than this.

    I have no issue with l/p even though their relationship is flawed until they overcome their issues or move on.

    I care about wheter Penny will get a last name as well as if she stays a waitress the whole time. Will Raj overcome his mutism, will Amy continue lesbian comments at Penny? Among others.

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