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  1. Both Leonard and Sheldon pick at each other all the time. Leonard constantly tells Sheldon how annoying and irritating he is (which I agree with Leonard) and Sheldon constantly belittles everyone in the entire world as being inferior to him. It's part of their chemistry. Rarely have I seen Leonard do anything seriously bad to Sheldon that wasn't warranted. A few insults here and there is just picking between friends, but Sheldon usually has to do something very Sheldon-ish (3am biohazard drills and such) to warrant a serious assault from Leonard.

    Sheldon did ask Penny out on a date, but under the guise of making Amy jealous. He has no interest in Penny in that fashion. He's called her a whore several times.

    I think early Sheldon didn't care about Leonard's problems. If anything, he was merely listening because it was the accepted social convention. As his character has evolved and matured, I find he does take a genuine interest in his friend's well being, and has on a few occasions with Leonard actually volunteered to assist him in his moment of doom and gloom.

    Has Sheldon forgave the gang for their betrayal at the North Pole? I believe he has. Deep down, I feel Sheldon realizes his idiosyncrasies and eccentricity is hard for everyone else at times.

    I have noticed a pattern of some people who seem to be radically anti-Leonard and criticize for the smallest and often imaginary things.

    I think it's easier to come down harder on Leonard because he knows better, Sheldon doesn't.

  2. Leonard stole Stephanie from Howard. Granted, she only wanted to drive the Mars Rover and wasn't interested in Howard, but he still crossed a line because Howard was into her. Then broke his pact with Howard over Priya and hooked up with Raj's sister knowing neither Howard or Raj would approve. And stole the prop movie ring from everyone. And despite signing a contract saying he'd take Sheldon to the Large Hadron Colider, was going to take Penny. Leonard has no right what-so-ever to take the moral high-road on anything.

  3. Who is everyone's favorite side character?

    I really like Zach, Penny's ex. For a brainless jock type,he has good chemistry with the main characters and is a genuinely good, nice guy. And his character is acted beautifully. I loved when he went to the comic store and was Superman. More Zach please!!!

    I also like Kripke... would love to see more of him...

  4. I also love when he has to bunk with Penny after locking himself out, and after she sings Soft Kitty he says "Thank you for letting me stay here".

    That to me is his most human moment.

    Most of his robotness is a defense mechanism from being bullied a lot and having to deal with parents in an unhappy marriage. "George, I told you if you don't quit drinking I'm going to leave you." "Well that makes you a liar then, cuz I'm drunk as hell and you're still here" I love that line. =)

  5. Talking bad about his Meemaw or calling him Moon Pie - not really sure what' date=' I just thought it should be a thing.[/quote']

    Talking bad about his Meemaw - you suddenly and immediately have to pee VERY badly

    Calling him Moon Pie - you lose your flash drive

  6. As for Amy, she started out as a Sheldon clone, but I get the impression their personalities come from vastly different places. Sheldon avoids human contact and relationships because he does not want them and never has. Amy's avoidance of relationships is more out of accepted rejection.

    See, I don't know as we can say that. We know Sheldon *says* he doesn't want or value human relationships, but his actions don't back that up. Remember his behavior this season when Leonard revoked the Roommate Agreement? He missed his friend. Remember how hurt he was that it was his *best friend* Leonard who betrayed him in Alaska? He would have been angry and embarrassed if it had been just Howard and Raj, but the fact that it was Leonard hurt. Rememer how he sought out Penny's company after her breakup with Leonard and was afraid he'd loose her friendship?

    I think Sheldon and Amy are alike in their desperate desire for friends and relationships as children, but Sheldon just reacted differently to the rejection of others as a child -- perhaps due to his particular family or local community circumstances, perhaps due to inherent personality traits. But unlike Amy, Sheldon accepted the rejection and turned it outwards -- I'll reject others before they can reject me. Amy, on the other hand, seems to be more self-aware and takes a more mature approach in that she is willing to keep trying. Does that make any sense??

    Yes it makes a lot of sense. Sheldon's introversion is more extreme than Amy's though, probably because of his non-orthodox path in life, college at 11, grad school at 14, etc... We've been shown many times when Sheldon is all alone making comments about hating relationships and social interactions. Amy at least seems to understand social interactions, whereas we've seen Sheldon many times being utterly clueless, not just putting up a wall. When Sheldon and Raj hook up with Abby and Martha, Sheldon is absolutely in the dark when Martha asks to hang out in his room. He seemed to have zero idea she wanted to hook up. He's in a much deeper social hole than Amy.

  7. Rick every other sentence is how "bad" penny is but if someone writes anything bad about the "great" Leonard you get up and arms and then go on the defensive.

    I agree, Leonard is no saint. What Raj, Howard and Leonard did to Sheldon was horrible, and yes would destroy their credibility in their field. Unless Sheldon never told everyone "they screwed with my experiment". Leonard's experiments never seem to be productive. He uses high powered lasers to melt action figures, with no sheilding behind the figurine, aloof to what would happen if the beam totally melted the figurine and istarted shopoting nto the wall. I find it odd how well Howard is doing... seeing as how he flooded the ISS with crap, crashed the Mars Rover and did eventually get caught over it, and then with the screwing of Sheldon's experiment. And with Raj, how many times can he get drunk and make a fool of himself before he gets fired? When he was trying to get on the Interstellar Research Team, he got drunk and hit on that girl. He asked Hawaii to point their telescope at Scarlett Johansen's house. And then there is Sheldon dropping all that foam on Kripke's lab and the President and the Board of Dirtectors... as well as probably ruining hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment.

    Now that I think of it, none of them should still have their jobs.

  8. What could Leonard actually do that would make him call the shots that comment is hilliarious like Leonard has the balls to do that, Penny has and always will call the shots they may agree on this but she's the one calling the shots.

    Doesn't have to be anything Leonard does, just something to get it into Penny's head that Leonard might not always come running when she snaps her fingers. Maybe Priya comes back, and wants him back, but he says no. It'd be a huge ego boost to Leonard, and a warning shot to Penny that Leonard is indeed a catch and she is in fact the reacher and he is the settler.

  9. Seinfeld, Friends and a tone of other shows did fine without introducing more characters.

    Serinfeld had a ton of extra characters. Maybe not permanent cast members, but hardly any of their shows were just the 4 main characters.

    As for Amy, she started out as a Sheldon clone, but I get the impression their personalities come from vastly different places. Sheldon avoids human contact and relationships because he does not want them and never has. Amy's avoidance of relationships is more out of accepted rejection. She's made several comments indicating that she does, and did, desire relationships, but just never was able to get one. "A guest in my trundle bed and a boy at my door? I wish I could tell 13-year-old me, it does get better!" Quotes like that are what makes me think this. And now that she is finally gaining the social life she has always wanted, she's over-zealous, trying too hard, and moving too fast.

  10. There are different subcategories of "trust." It was a tie between Howard and Penny as far as gossip/secrets go, but that doesn't mean I don't think they aren't good people.

    The only times Sheldon has blabbed someone's secret was when they didn't ask him, "Can you keep a secret?" I mean, when Leonard put the rocket fuel into the elevator, Sheldon didn't rat him out to the police, homeland security, or the landlord. He barely knew him! That's a friend.

    I don't think it was a conscious effort though. I think he'd let it slip in casual conversation, just like he did with Howard and the Mars Rover.

    I agree on the types of trust. Sheldon is worse for gossip or information, because he actually doesn't know any better.

    Raj seems like the kind of guy who would willingly sleep with your girl if he had the chance and not even regret it. He still has never really showed any regret for pining over Bernadette, and actually in his mind thought she had a thing for him. He totally would have gone for it if he ever thought he had a window of opportunity.

    I wouldn't trust Penny with money. She is constantly making poor financial decisions.

  11. Not knowing your comic books - Getting a prostate exam from Wolverine

    Messing with your friend's experiment - condemned to teach evolution to creationists

    Throw your neighbors clothes out the window - Get called and yelled at by your mom

  12. she kinda did, she didn't tell him about the ticket and he had to go to court, and he ended up in jail

    Oh, come on! :icon_lol: Penny didn't tell Sheldon about the ticket, but she admitted the truth, went with him to the court and was ready to testify on his behalf.

    She also felt very bad about it, and she tried her best to make it up to Sheldon, even to the point of agreeing to go on a date with Stuart and stalking Sheldon's idol.

    She didn't tell him about the ticket as much as he discovered it all on his own. If Leonard had never found that letter, Sheldon would be sitting at home one day when the cops come and arrest him for failure to appear. They had no idea he was driving, until she ratted him out, and was perfectly willing to never mention it again. Oh, and she didn't even pay him back. Also, she abandoned him at Stan Lee's house.

  13. I think one of the most profound messages of the show is acceptance and looking behind the cover. On the surface' date=' why would a gorgeous popular street-smart Penny ever befriend ridiculous nerds?[/quote']

    Because she uses them for free food... and free wi-fi... and uses their TV when she doesn't pay her bills... and borrow money... and ask for a ride to the hospital so she can then throw the guy who helped her under the bus...

    Why would brilliant accompished scientists ever befriend a ditzy uneducated waitress?

    Because they want to bang her. Also, if Sheldon had his way, they would NOT have become friends with Penny.

  14. I think it will end with some complication or problem/emergency involving Howard going into space. The rocket goes up and they lose communications or something.

    -or-

    The bachelor/bachelorette parties are a possibility. Despite the "penny slept with someone angle", they could always have Leonard wake up thenext morning in bed with a strange girl (I'd love it to be that chick he met in the comic book store when he was in an LDR with Priya). Penny has this idea that she has Leonard wrapped around her finger, and laughs in derision when anyone even hints Leonard would stray or not heel at Penny's feet if she were to snap her fingers. If we're talking character developement, she needs to have somehting happen to snap her out of this mentality, and stop treating Leonard like she is doing him some huge favor by going out with him.

    -or-

    Sheldon nails Amy.

    -or-

    Someone besides Sheldon will do something Nobel Prize worthy and Sheldon will freak the heck out.

  15. Penny always looks down on the group, I can't stand it. She is condescending when they have their fun, called them all pathetic once, and constantly has that tone like she is patronizing them when they talk about their interests in movies and comics. Leonard was willing to go see her psychic, but she wouldn't read his book debunking psychics. She used Leonard for a long time for free food and money. She went out with Stuart knowing it upset Leonard, and did so because she couldn't bring herself to even admit she liked Leonard. She is embarassed to be with him.

    And she thinks there is no difference between Star Wars and Star Trek... She's an actress. How could she not be familiar, even slightly, with two of the biggest franchises in television and movie history?

    They will be together when the show ends, but I will never think they belong together.

    She does not look down on them she sticks up for them and defends them, as for the book Leonard gave her why should she read it that's insulting what he did. Why shouldn't she have dated Stuart Leonard doesn't own her and wasn't man enough to ask her on a date. She doesn't look down on the interests it just doesn't interest or is bored. As for the star wars or trek I don't see it like that more like just from a non fan or just didn't get it. If she looked down on them she wouldn't be their friends so that's not what it is.

    She definitely looks down on them. Even in the last episode, she exhaustedly and disgustedly makes it known, while talking to Amy about Star Wars and Star Trek, that after all these years, she still doesn't think their interests are worthwhile expenditures of time or effort. All while chugging beer and playing a drinking game.

    As for the book, it is not insulting in any way. No more or less than her request for him to go see her psychic. They both asked the other to see things from the other's persepctive. He said yes. She said no.

    Leonard did ask her on a date, they went out, and she broke up with him why, because he tried to get her to enroll in college? And why? Because she told Sheldon it embarassed her. So, he tried to help her with something even she saw as something she would like to fix in herself. Then, she used Stuart because he reminded her of Leonard. So, she likes Leonard, but doesn't go out with him, and then uses Stuart to fill her desires for Leonard. That's not good character quality.

  16. I think we could debate the Penny/Amy attraction vs. friendship forever. No matter the evidence presented (unless the show has an actual confession of attraction or the two jump in bed) we'll never know.

    Personally I think people can find subtlties to back up whatever argument they're going to make. If you look to other shows like one of my favorites 'Supernatural' a lot of fans (not me) see several of the main characters as in-love even though they're all heterosexual and they've never had any on-screen kisses or passionate moments. People will see what they see.

    A good example would be with Amy talking about how sexy Sheldon would be with long hair. She may prefer to see him more wild and unhinged...perhaps she reads a lot of Romance novels...pictures him like some of the men on the cover of the books. OR other people could just see it as Sheldon with long hair = him looking more like a woman and therefore she's a lesbian.

    :) I'm sure anything can be twisted for anyone's arguments. I doubt we'll know the intention of the directing/writing unless there's an actual interview where they directly address this.

    That said, I have to admit I think the writers/director seems to be (imho) making it like Amy's got the hots for Penny. Previous lesbian comments and that one peck on the lips (then singing Katy Perry's song in the taxi) that one episode. With the recent episode, I think what made me feel like the whole holding Penny's hair back was a reference to Amy liking the woman, was for exactly the reason someone mentioned a few pages ago. Amy looked almost excited to go do that, more so than hanging out with Sheldon.

    Of course, as stated, we don't know the reasons behind it. If it was a mistake by Mayim, or if she was directed to do so, or if it was in the script. I think that eventually the writers/director will have to say one way or the other whether or not Amy's a lesbian, bisexual, or just really...awkward when expressing her affection for her friend. I think people are getting fed up with the references.

    I personally don't care if Amy's a lesbian or bisexual, or just straight. I think the comments are just annoying and I don't find them funny at all. I know it can be handled better. I've seen other shows/movies that make references to ones' sexuality, sometimes catching a person off guard but it's really funny. Will & Grace was amazing at this.

    So to get to my point (finally) I think the writers need to dial back the comments and if they get thrown in at all, they should actually make them funny and not just random.

    Amy has made some rather aggressive comments towards Penny. When she got her that huige picture, she said they were originally painted nude, but that it would be an uncessary challenge to their heterosexuality. Then proceeded to say if Penny changed her mind, just use some soap and warm water and a sponge. When Penny asks "on the painting?" Amy replies with a sarcastic, "yeah, that's what I meant". Amy has kissed Penny at least once, and during the sleepover when they played sleepover games from the Wikipedia, Amy attempted to experiment with lesbianism with Penny. You may not like the comments, but they are not coming from out of nowhere. They've made Amy's sexuality part of her character. Granted, it could all be confusion from being a long term sexless relationship. Amy just wants some affection.

  17. I don't see hitler isn't Lorre a Jew plus that's taking it to far if they did that.

    Hehehe, no I doubt her last name is Hitler, just answering the previous query of how a last name could change people's perception of you.

    I'd like it if her last name was Newton, or Fermi or something sciency.

  18. I keep getting this sinking feeling that something bad is going to happen to Howard on his ISS adventure. Either some problem at the station, or on launch... or somehow it's all some elaborate hoax and payback for his filling the ISS with liquid crap when his space toilet malfunctioned.

  19. Howard will get a PhD in his spare time while he is a stay at home Dad

    Sheldon will get a Nobel Prize

    Raj will get a girl he doesn't need to be drunk to talk to

    Leonard isn't going to end up with Penny

    Penny is going to get the chance to be a star, but to do so will mean she has to move to New York or something, and instead of letting her even take the chance of turning it down, Leonard will break up with her so she can pursue her dream.

    Amy will finally seduce Sheldon

    Bernadette will accidentally bring home some deadly virus, open it, and cause a mas pandemic that kills all life on Earth. The show then fast forwards through time, to the end of this universe and the Big Crunch, which immediately goes boom in another Big Bang, creating a brand new universe.

  20. Penny always looks down on the group, I can't stand it. She is condescending when they have their fun, called them all pathetic once, and constantly has that tone like she is patronizing them when they talk about their interests in movies and comics. Leonard was willing to go see her psychic, but she wouldn't read his book debunking psychics. She used Leonard for a long time for free food and money. She went out with Stuart knowing it upset Leonard, and did so because she couldn't bring herself to even admit she liked Leonard. She is embarassed to be with him.

    And she thinks there is no difference between Star Wars and Star Trek... She's an actress. How could she not be familiar, even slightly, with two of the biggest franchises in television and movie history?

    They will be together when the show ends, but I will never think they belong together.

  21. I just don't see any single reason for Leonard to be so infatuated towards her other than her looks. The only thing they have in common is that they are neighbors. Maybe it's the whole opposites attract thing, but I just find their relationship forced and unbelievable. The only believable part to me was where she was crying about wanting a nice guy, not some big guy with muscles and money, and when Leonard suggests himself, all she says is "what have I got to lose?" While she does respect Leonard's intelligence, she constantly looks down on Leonard. She called him pathetic in the time machine episode. It took Leonard 5 seasons of trying to get together with Penny, and still all he gets is a "beta test". Granted, simply being a nice guy doesn't mean any girl owes any guy anythying.

    To be fair, her character doesn't strike a nerve with me as much as she used to in the beginning, but I still find her to be the least interesting character on the show.

  22. The producers say that they have not given Penny a last name yet, because it could totally change how fans view Penny. However they do say that it will soon be revealed.

    How or why could her last name change people's view of penny? What a bunch of crap

    Penny Hitler. A name can have an effect on people.

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