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  1. What an excellent, excellent, excellent episode!


    When you have no reason to care about the characters then whatever difficult situations they get themselves into you can be free to have a hearty laugh about it.


    The show has already clearly established at this point that Penny is a huge drunk and slut, Leonard is in constant need of being validated and being right, Sheldon is a shell of his former self (failing at brillance at work and wilfully drinking alcohol), Howard isn't a sleeze-bag anymore just kind of lame, Raj is rude, Bernadette is mean and Amy is so tightly wound because she wants what she isn't getting.


    When you accept that then it is easy to enjoy an episode like this one.


    Its funny to see Penny's years of being a drunk slut come back to bite her on this whole married to Zack thing. Although, I think Penny would be better off with Zack in the long run. At least Zack is a nice guy and isn't smart enough to challenge Penny on anything so she'll be right all the time, and that's what she wants anyway.


    The father-in-law being cold to Howard was amusing because it is a sit-com and it wouldn't be as funny if he was nice to him. If this was the first or second season I would have been upset with Sheldon drinking beer with him and making wild jokes because it doesn't fit Sheldon's character but they've long since destroyed any consistency with Sheldon's character to care about that now.


    So ... considering all that ...


    It was a hilarious epiosde!

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  2. Penny's character is the worst.

    She 'often forgets' how smart Lenoard is and all Leonard has to do is show her a little science experiment he does every day and she jumps him like she jumps every boyfriend she's had before. Whoop-ti-doo.

    Leonard already got plenty of sex from Penny for doing much less. In fact Penny would do him after he made her angry. She gives it away super easy. So that's what the Penny character has become. A gilfriend who loves exuses to have sex. Her character is not much deeper than that.


    This episode was decent. The parts with Sheldon and Amy were cute and witty. The part with Raj planning party was fine as well. Also Howard bringing up his space experience often with everyone was good. I didn't like the Smurf costumes at all but whatever.

    This episode for me was one step forward and one step back.

    If they just got rid of Leonard and Penny the show would be a lot better.

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  3. Yeah, Sheldon's sexual innocence is bordering on the ridiculous at sometimes. Still, it makes for a great character.

    The writers clearly take some liberties in this regard with Sheldon.

    That one episode where the guys were joking that Sheldon was whipped because he had to go to something with Amy and he didn't get it ... he thought it was meant being 'smart as a whip' but later in the same episode he is the first to suggest that Howard is 'whipped' when Bernadette convinces Howard to let her join the game night.

  4. I rated this episode as: Good.

    Not very good or excellent but just good, for Big Bang Theory standards.

    The pictionary segments were solid. Funny in the way you expect from a show like this.

    The Where's Waldo bit was also very good.

    I like that Stuart has become more part of the group of friends and even accepted by Sheldon. Naturally there would be comments at the expense of Raj and Stuart because they are living together but they were fairly mild and that dynamic of Raj and Stuart has potential to be even funnier.

    Really didn't like the pie-eating segment or the wrestling segments of the game night. They seemed so out of place it was just awkward.

    At least I can't call this one of the shows worst episodes... and that's saying something!

  5. Yes, the show is still funny and so far this season it is better than I remember it being at this point last season.

    I have not been a fan of how the Penny-Leonard relationship has developed and so anything to do with Penny and the girls usually doesn't interest me at all unless Sheldon is involved.

    So, i do look back at Season 1 and 2 with much fondness as it was a simpler time and since it was so fresh and new it had a lot of 'first-time' laughs. I laugh a lot at things to do with Sheldon and his characteristics, nerdy things they do and their interaction with reoccuring characters (Kripke, Wheaton, Stuart, etc.). I also still get a kick out of Howard's exchanges with his mother.

    I don't like when the show seems to reduce itself to really cheap laughs (crude humor, making fun of Sheldon for being himself, etc.) but I'm giving the show a chance still unless it really jumps the shark sometime this season. But so far .. so good!

  6. I think I would be happy if it were 30 minutes, but not 1 hour (that might drag things out too much). This last episode was just 19 minutes, in fact (I know since I watched it online).

    But is there a way to achieve 30 minutes + advertisements? I think the slots are either 30 minutes or 1 hour, with 10 minutes being taken up by ads?

    If you want to have 30 minutes of commercials inbetween 30 minutes of show then sure, you could have 30 minutes of TBBT.

    But that would suck.

    No, what would be better is a full hour timeslot.. that would mean about 42 - 45 minutes of show time. It would help the writers not have to rush storylines and wrap them up in one episode which is why a lot of the characters and jokes feel un-natural and forced.

  7. The show should have gone to an hour long a LONG time ago!

    TVs #1 Comedy and it's only 20 minutes long? Yeah, because with commercials it is only 20 minutes. At least if they went to a full hour timeslot they would have about 45 minutes of show which would be better.

    I think a lot of the problems in the show happen because they have to wrap up a story in 20 minutes so that's why there are a lot of stupid endings and unresolved endings to the show because they don't have time.

    Just go to 1 hour. That way they can either have storyline that runs through the 45 minutes or they could have two mostly unrelated storylines (like they have now, episode by episode) but they would be able to tie up loose ends into the start of the second half of the show instead of rushing it.

    CBS is 110% insane for still having Two and a Half Men on the air and taking up the other 30 minutes after TBBT.

  8. First, I'll state my general opinion on the episode which is: Good. Close to Very Good and that's saying something because I am a tough critic.

    I liked the episode because Sheldon was acting the way I want him to act and the way that got me interested in his character. His work-first mentality and being unaware of his condescension to others.

    Howard was funny with his space bit this episode. I HATED the last episode. Space bullying? Seriously? Probably the stupidest thing I could think of they could do to get a laugh. But this episode, space anxiety made a lot of sense and wasn't mean spirited so it was funnier.

    Now, I'll get to the issue regarding Penny and Leonard that rickfromillinois brought up:

    I did find the Penny character less then admirable in this episode. She acted like she wasn't that interested in Leonard UNTIL she thought that the grad student was interested in him. Then all of a sudden she becomes overly jealous of Leonard. It reminded me of a child who has a toy that she is no longer interested in until another child picks it up, then all of a sudden it is her favorite toy and she throws a fit about another child touching it.

    Penny acted like she really doesn't want Leonard but she sure doesn't want anyone else to have him. Hardly an attractive way to act. Leonard, dump Penny and hook up with the grad student.

    You hit the nail on the head. That IS what the Penny character is like. She is not highly sophisticated. She does think she is better than Leonard, she does believe she is doing Leonard a favour by letting him be in a relationship with her and he is damn lucky to be in a relationship with her. But years have gone by now where the only thing Leonard hasn't got from Penny is "I love you"... he has got probably hundreds of wild nights of sexual escapades but no "I love you". So Penny is clearly a little crazy. She won't commit to loving Leonard when she is with him but when another woman is interested in him she then shows jealousy and pulls him into bed. Controlling him with sex. Leonard is not complaining. But so much sex and emotion you can't blame him for thinking she might have stronger feelings for him than just a boy toy.

    The thing is... if this was real life most likely Leonard and Penny relationship would have completely ended after the first break-up, maybe it wouldn't even have become a relationship, but Penny probably would have moved out (not getting any solid acting roles, high cost of living, etc.) so that would have been the end of it. But because this is a TV show and COMEDY TV show they have to invent ways to keep the relationship going.

    So even right now the most logical thing for both of them to do would be for Penny to finally admit she loves Leonard, they solidify their relationship, get engaged and married - Happy Ending! Now, that probably will happen... but not until close to or right at the final episode... and that could be a few seasons away!

    Personally, I wish they would do something more drastic though and have Penny find another guy, another NICE guy and start saying she loves him which would make Leonard go insane and give him the troubles that Penny had when he was with Priya.

  9. 1. Sheldon - He's brilliant and hilarious when talking down to others (of course, he doesn't see it that way, though)

    2. Howard - Funny. Love that he does magic and knows other languages.

    3. Raj - He mostly means well but unfortunately struggles with conversations with women, obviously, but he is funny but also one character you root for

    4. Amy - Funny, great character unless she is talking about sexual things, then it just seems like she's trying too hard.

    5. Bernadette/Leonard - Tie for these two. Bernadette is funny when mimicking Howard's mother but the rest of the time I find her voice annoying. Leonard is selfish and is only funny when Sheldon is setting him straight.

    6. Re-Occuring Characters - All the ones I like are: Wil Wheaton, Stuart, Kripke, Sheldon's Mom, Zack.

  10. They all have a 'look'.

    Leonard wears a t-shirt, a hoodie and a jacket with pockets.

    Sheldon wears a t-shirt over a longer sleeved top.

    Raj wears a sweater vest over a shirt and t-shirt.

    Howard wear skinny jeans and a polo neck with an alien pin on his collar.

    It's true, each character has their own 'look'.

    I do think though that the outfit Leonard wears is only a t-shirt and a jacket/hoodie combo. I think those jackets are made like that so they look like their is a hoody underneath but really it's just part of the jacket.

    Same for Sheldon. The long sleeves on his shirt at woven into the t-shirt.

    However Raj's outfit legitimately seems like 3 pieces. The collar shirt, the vest and jacket. I always wondered why he wore that many layers! It's freakin' Southern California! lol

  11. I think the reason Sheldon and Leonard still live together is because they both like simple living.

    Well, Sheldonlikes simple living and Leonard knows Penny lives there too so he ain't moving! But Sheldon likes the place because he doesn't like change and it is close to the restaurants and University he needs to get to and has a roomate that will drive him.

    Actually, I remember an episode where Penny had money issues and Sheldon said something like his expenses account for 45% of his after-tax income. If you think about that, it makes more sense. He has over 50% of his after tax income to spend on comic books and games, etc. If he lived in a bigger more expensive place he'd have less money to do that.

    Penny, on the other hand, it's a little hard to believe SHE could live in the same apartment building as Sheldon and Leonard and not even have a roomate since she only gets about min. wage at the Cheesecake Factory. They did say that the rent was very reasonable so I guess she could afford it but then her apartment shouldn't be so messy since she wouldn't have very much money to spend on anything but rent, food and gas.

    Raj's situation seems pretty reasonable. If he is making a good wage, he has his own apartment that looks pretty good and has a nice car. No issue there really.

    And finally,

    Howard. Yes, he probably would be making a lot of money as a engineer making stuff for NASA but his living with his mother has NOTHING to do with how much money he makes. He's a MAMA'S BOY. That's always been why he lives with his mother.

  12. And, for the record, the season 5 finale where everyone started to hold hands - even Sheldon - made me GAG !

    Gimme a break, already.

    Ugh. AGREED.

    Hated that ending scene so much. I was like, what the hell? Am I watching a dramatic romance movie or a sitcom?

    The argument has been made here before on this forum that "The Big Bang Theory" (as conceived after its second pilot) was not really that much of a deviation from the standard US sitcom. I think that is correct. If it was really different, there would have not been the Leonard/Penny pillar built in the show.

    The UK has developed a way you can have non-traditional shows be successful. Have shows with very limited runs. Shows like "The Office", "Extras", "Absolutely Fabulous" or "The IT Crowd" had about 12 to 24 episodes in their entirety. The characters did not change, they could be completely unlikeable and there was normally one writer who could expand his/her vision without the need to keep the audience from getting bored or irritated.

    I think I agree with you but I'm not sure if you are disputing my previous post or adding to it?

    I agree the american sitcomes on network television tend to be less overly quirky or targeted and more derivative and try to get you to care about the characters to help the show last longer.

    My issue with The Big Bang Theory lately is that their attempt to do that to me has actually had the opposite affect. I care less about the characters than I did when I watched the first 2 seasons.

    By contrast I actually are more drawn to and care about the characters in Parks & Recreation and even Community (even though the show is pretty off-the-wall and quirky) and I care more about the characters of the US version of The Office. Now, I will even admit the last couple seasons of The Office I have started to care less and less. Once Steve Carell left and even a little before that the show basically jumped the shark but I cared more about the characters in seasons 4, 5 and 6 than I am for The Big Bang Theory in those same seasons.

    I will also agree that I think the UK system has some merit by not showing too many episodes. On one hand it's sad because you don't get a lot of episodes if you really like a show but on the other hand each episode can be really good and fresh and characters are less likely to make dramatic, un-welcomed changes.

    I would say the ideal number of seasons for a sitcom would be 5, plus or minus 1.

    Once you get into Season 7 you are really grasping at straws and are probably a pretty different show than you started as so it might as well be a new show!

  13. What I find funny is that things that made me laugh and enjoy the show in the beginning like when there was a scene with the boys doing a 'nerdy' activity (Klingon boggle, playing Halo, playing rock band, etc.) or when Sheldon was being condescending to Leonard or Penny (not really intentionally but because he didn't really know better or thought he was helping) that is what I liked about the show.

    I even sympathized with Leonard and his situation of trying to expand his horizons and social circle and establish a better relationship with the hot girl across the hall. At that time Howard was overly outgoing but adorable and same for Raj who was the opposite (too shy but adorable). At that time in the show I could say I actually cared about the characters ...

    But now...

    Leonard has 'got with' Penny dozens of times including a handfull of other hot women but has been so back and forth with Penny he's become more of a douche than a sweet guy.

    Penny isn't this 'innocent simple girl from the mid-west', she doesn't know what she is. Nothing has really worked out for her but she brought a lot of it on herself.

    Howard has grown and is more mature. I'll admit it feels like a reasonable progression seeing as he found the only woman in the world who could stand him. But the problem for me with the (pretty) solid Howard and Bernadette relationship is that it feels like 'funny' situations are forced because really most of the time should be all good and anytime Howard does something that makes it hard on himself or his relationship it seems very forced.

    Raj is still basically in the same position as he was at the start of the show. No real progression there. In a sense, he is one of the most realistic characters on the show because if he really does have some psychological selective mutism it probably is very hard to overcome. But his lack of a steady girlfriend every more so than SHELDON of all people is the paradox of the show that seems a little ridiculous.

    Sheldon he DE-volved in my opinion. He shows more signs of stupidity and childishness than he ever did in the first 2 or 3 seasons. His pairing with Amy was intitally very interesting because it wasn't your typical boy/girl relationship. Well, now it pretty much is except for a bit of reluctance on Sheldon's part but they have moved past just being a boy with a girl who is a friend to a bf/gf relationship and even started some physical relationship.

    My point?

    NONE of this evolution of the characters makes me care more about them than it did in the beginning which is exactly what the writers want the fans to feel like. So I'm at the point where I now watch the show and laugh at the expense of Leonard or Penny and only like when Sheldon gets 1-up on the others and I don't really care about how the Howard and Bernadette relationship goes.

    But I guess viewing figures don't lie and my view is in the vast minority and apparently a lot more people DO care about this characters more now than they did before. So I think what I thought I was liking about the show and what the show was about was not really what the show was about.

  14. I got into the show due to the nerdiness, and the fact that I love pop-culture references, and probably most importantly...Sheldon's arrogant put-downs. general sarcasm and his character overall.

    I have always found relationship aspect , dialogue and scenarios to be totally unfunny. After Amy became less like Sheldon and tried to move towards a more normal relationship ,her scenes also became totally unfunny to me. Some people find the relationship between Amy and Sheldon to be funny, but I cannot remember ANY of these scenes where I had a laugh. The same goes for ANY of the other romantic or relationship scenes between ANY of the characters.

    The only things I found funny were the comments made by others about said relationships like the runniing gags about L/P at the beginning or Sheldons comments to Leonard if Leonard tried to discuss his problems with him.

    I could put up with relationship scenes in the early days as the relationships were mainly dealt with by cast members talking about the failings of relationships. Once the protagonists actually got together themselves...no laughs....ever...as far as I can remember. And these scenes have become ever more frequent.

    I predict I will see the plot summary for ep01 of se06, and not bother to watch it, for the first time in years.

    BINGO !!!

    I absolutely agree with you.

    Relationships that come/go are ok in small doses, but the SHOW must revolve around the stereotypical nerds that we know and love.

    It is THEIR trials, nerd culture, and REAL science that makes the show funny, entertaining, and UNIQUE.

    I, too, will stop watching if I see that they have taken the show even farther away from its roots.

    If I have to sit through relationship issues (the wet blanket that now covers the show), I will walk away from the show - and let the people who crave "romantic-comedy-formula" garbage to enjoy what this once-great show has become.

    Double agreement, with both of you!

    smeghead described almost exactly what got me into the show and got me to like it.

    The focus the show has taken to relationships has turned me off. Every episode that is focused more on some relationship or hook up is mostly garbage and is only usually funny when Sheldon or someone make a sarcastic or snide remark that embarasses Leonard or whoever is attempting to make a move.

    I'm actually quite dissapointed when I read that ratings have gone UP with the show since Season 3 and best ratings have been this last season which I felt was very lack luster.

    There are WAY too many sit coms that deal heavily with boy/girl relationships that I enjoy shows where I see less of it.

    Community and Parks & Recreation are good examples. Both shows are funny and yes, there are some relationships but they hardly control most of the story and there isn't all this jumping into bed and sex talk that is included in too many sitcoms already.

    I think those of us who were looking for a show about nerd culture, pop culture references, a brilliant, egotistical, condescending but adorable character have to just hold on to Big Bang Theory Seasons 1-3 and realize that most of what comes after that should be called: The Relationship Theory.

  15. I'm pretty sure the writers didn't really know how the Sheldon character would evolve from the pilot episode. That is why he is portrayed as basically a regular nerd who is pretty aware of normal human circumstances and scenerios but is obviously smart enough to be a physicist.

    My biggest problem with the way Sheldon has changed since Season 1 is that he is now more of a STUPID child than he is just a brilliant scientist who is condescending.

    In earlier seasons he would talk down to Penny and even to Leonard, to an extent, but mostly about being perplexed as to why Leonard was fussing so much about developing a relationship with Penny and 'expanding his social ciricle'. In more recent seasons and episodes Sheldon is actually portrayed as basically stupid and he is fooled and teased by his "friends" and is treated like a child. I will admit, some of these instances have been funny like the scene with Sheldon and Leonard in the ball pit but other times it has been dissapointing to see how Sheldon is portrayed.

    We'll see if they set things back on track in Season 6.

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  16. Yeah, by the best estimates it's easier to believe space travel is possible but if both were possible I think time travel would be the most fun.

    It would basically be a super-power. Imagine if you could go back and forth in time, anytime? If you make a mistake you can just go back a few seconds and do it better now that you know what you did wrong.

    Actually one movie that comes to mind that kind of shows both Space Travel and Time Travel is Galaxy Quest. Good, funny movie and it is based on space travel but when they use the Omega 13 it is basically like time travel - 13 seconds back.

  17. Space travel would be my guess, my avatar gave that away. :icon_wink:

    If Einstein is correct, space-time can bend. It's flexible, so it may be possible to bend it and bring together two distant points, making a pass between them in a blink of an eye. It's all just science fiction at the moment though.

    Unfortunately that same theory suggests time travel is impossible because nothing can move faster than the speed of light. Time slows down the faster you go and the closer you are to a large mass, but it's only small increments and you couldn't go backwards. I don't really understand the physics myself. Some of you might have more knowledge.

    But if I had a choice... who wouldn't want a trip in the Tardis with the Doctor?!

    I did end up looking into space travel a little more and the theory is that if you could travel at close to the speed of light (because Einstein said nothing can travel at the speed of light) and you were travelling outside the Earth time would appear to stand still so even if you were travelling 100 billion light years away it would seem instant however on Earth time would have gone by quite a bit so you would not be coming back to Earth to visit your current family or friends... maybe only your families extended generations but not the current ones. So, that kind of takes the fun out of space travel. Unless a bunch of humans travel and repopulate through space like Star Trek.

    The complication of course it that science on Earth hasn't advanced enough for us to know how to travel to close to the speed of light and if we could the danger would be that our bodies couldn't take it.

    But, that's just a theory. :p

  18. That is the question I am posing to you. Do you think Time Travel and/or Space Travel is even possible? Which one do you think is more likely to be possible?

    To clarify,

    By Space Travel I mean: The ability for humans to travel to other planets, solar systems or galaxies in the Universe.

    Obvious challenge being that since even to travel from Earth to Pluto would be approx. 3.5 billion miles finding a way to travel in space without significantly losing years off your life from 'short trips' (Earth to Pluto would be a short trip in space terms) and then for longer trips would be necessary.

    By Time Travel I mean: The ability to travel into the past or into the future.

    Interesting paradox being that if you believe humans will be able to space travel in the future AND you believe in time travel then you could essentially travel into the future to then be able to travel into space.

    However, the obvious challenge in time travel is the risk of drastically changing current or future events by your actions in the past.

    Wow... now THAT'S a question for people on The Big Bang Theory Forum to eat up! Hope you enjoy the conversation.

    I know this is a loaded topic so just pick which parts you want to focus on.

    I will give my quick initial thoughts to get this going...

    I think both time travel and space travel is highly unlikely but I think that space travel is more likely to be possible than time travel. I think the closest thing we will get to time travel is what we already have and it is called flying in a plane over timezones in which you can gain or lose time if you travel east or west. Of course you still don't really travel into the future or into the past, unfortunately.

    So I think humans travelling in space is more possible but still highly unlikely. I think we are close to the point where 'regular humans' will be allowed to travel to the moon but if you watch any sci fi it is pretty clear that all science fiction believe in something along the lines of 'warp speed' travel in which you travel an incredibly fast rate but do not age fast.

    So, what do you think?

  19. The interesting thing we found out about Penny's last name from the ComicCon panel at least is about what name is on her mail.

    Kaley said for the shows purposes they give her a last name on the mail but it changes and isn't always the same so, clearly, Kaley or any of the cast don't even know what Penny's last name might be.

    I think it's likely now that there are only two ways it can end with regards to Penny's last name.

    1.) The show ends and we just don't ever get to know her last name! She ends up like Cher or Madonna, just a one-named girl.

    2.) In the series finale they somehow show us Penny's last name either through dialogue or even a close-up on her mail or a card or something. That way it is more of a big reveal to the '4th wall audience' and not a big deal to the characters in the show, because surely they would know her last name by now.

  20. I'm sorry to say but I think the writers rushed all aspects of the Leonard and Penny relationship since the start of the series to the point where I care less and less about Penny or Leonard. At this point, I care more about guys like Sheldon, Raj, even Stuart that good things will happen to them than I do about Leonard and Penny.

    The reason for that is how the writers have flip flopped their relationship, sped it up then brought it to a screeching hault and speed up and slow down again.

    I enjoyed the first season of the show quite a bit. It was a good dynamic between two nerdy guys living across the hall from a beautiful girl and how they tried to connet. Obviously one of them, Leonard, the only one who really intended to 'get with her'. But the concept was believable. At that point, I did root for Leonard to get closer with Penny BUT at the same time whenever he would get a bit closer but Penny would turn up the next day with a new boyfriend I understood it. It made sense. That happens all the time. One guy thinks he's making strides with a girl (potentially out of his league) and the next minute she shows she doesn't feel the same way by showing up with a new squeeze.

    But the problem, I think, was that by the end of season 1 Leonard had already secured his first real date with Penny and then through season 2 and 3 started getting mad 'action' not only from Penny but other girls; Leslie, the girl who sleeps around and stayed at their apartment, Dr. Stephanie, etc.

    So Leonard went from this awkward nerd who never had much 'going on' to, basically, a player. That's when I stopped caring. I laughed because it's classic 'TV Magic' that girls just start being attracted to Leonard now, out of nowhere.

    Then as the seasons progressed there became this back and forth with Leonard and Penny, they would break up and then get back together, break up, back together. Penny always seemed to take Leonard for granted but I 'got it' because I think she was better off with a guy like Zack, only smarter! I feel Penny always looked at Leonard as a friend ... with a few benefits and the reason she starts to have feelings for him is because he's not a total douchebag (just a little bit of a douchebag sometimes) which is a big step up from her past relationships.

    So they've basically tossed this whole Leonard and Penny relationship around so much that it doesn't make sense and I've lost most of my reason to actually care about these characters. I now laugh at Leonard and Penny's expense, am happy to see good things happen to Sheldon, Raj and Stuart (not that it ever does) and are more reserved to laugh if it is at the expense of Sheldon, Raj and Stuart.

    That's how I feel right now. Anyone else?

  21. It's A Wonderful Life, most Pixar movies, Shallow Hal, Bruce Almighty and ...

    Mr. Holland's Opus.

    Seriously, such an emotional feel-good movie if there ever was one. It basically goes to show that if you think you don't make a difference in other people's lives and even if you aren't doing exactly what you thought you might do you still might be making a bigger difference than you thought and you can still end up living your dream.

  22. Episode ideas I have are:

    1.) Sheldon has a lab accident and becomes a Super Villian, terrorizes his 'friends', his friends have to rally together to defeat him. It all ends with Sheldon waking up after a dream.

    2.) Raj goes to a psyciatrist and overcomes his selective mutism and is able to talk to all women but for a kicker he now as a different problem; something like narcolepsy or happy turrets ;p.

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