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  1. I think the (new) fans out-number the (old) fans. I agree with the original poster. I loved the show for the first 3 seasons. The show changed when the producers decided they wanted to increase their demographic to get more viewers - (namely female viewers). All of the sudden the show's characters started to change from awkward individuals struggling to fit in and thrive (classic "nerd"-type issues) - into a sitcom that has the same old "formula" of male-female relationships. (Just like every other sitcom out there - predictable and boring). Quite frankly, everything that made
  2. Everyone has an opinion. Only the editors truly know what they do with the audio track for final production. I would suspect that even though they record many "takes" with various levels of laughter - at the end of the day, the editor has resources (laff tracks) to utilize in order to fine tune the laughter to whatever level they are trying to achieve. I absolutely loved the first 3 seasons of the show - but now I can't stand the way they have changed it. One of the things that I disliked is that around the end of the 3rd season or so, there was a (noticeable) increase in t
  3. The episodes become even shorter when you fast forward past all the relationship crap so-called-comedy story lines. The few glimpses of past comedic glory (just the guys interacting) is becoming a rarity on the show. We are now over-shadowed by nagging women imposing relationship issues on the guys. I really hate what this once-great show has devolved into. I'm going to ride it out a few more episodes and if I cannot stomach it any more, the rest of you who like the new format can "have" it - as I'll be done with it. That shark has long since been jumped.
  4. There is absolutely nothing wrong with keeping the characters "static". The characters themselves and the specific roles they played were supposed to be stereotypes. These stereotypes very importantly allowed viewers to identify with, and recognize how these 4 guys, struggle to interact with the world around them. This struggle was funny. Very funny. It was also very well done in that it was believable and struck a chord of authenticity with all viewers who have any bit of nerdiness in them. I "want" to see a typical nerd try to get the girl. I "want" to see the super-genius asexual hu
  5. It is truly unfortunate that the writers have chosen to turn this once-great show into a commonplace "relationship" sitcom. I watched it because it was unique and funny as hell. I watched it because the writing and situations did not "cater" to the viewing public who wanted dumbed-down "romantic comedy" (gag, choke) types of shows. Seasons 1-3 rocked big time. Season 4 started the transition to watered-down run of the mill territory that has simply accellerated, unfortunately. This latest season, for me, is almost unwatchable. What the writers did to the main (male) characters is hor
  6. I think that all the characters (except for Raj) are practically dead. The writers have changed all of them too much - to morph the show from a funny, geeky, unique show - to a run of the mill sitcom where relationships are the only impetus for so-called comedy. Rest in Peace Seasons 1-3. Those days shall never return again. So sad to lose the characters and situations that we loved so much.
  7. Pretty much where the general direction was/is going now anyway - so not really anything ground-breakingly new. I guess the producers feel it is time for the nerds to grow up and become just like everyone else, and for the show to become like every other show out there. They "shall boldly go where everyone else has already gone before !" Predictable and formula to a "T". Yawwwnnnnn. NEXT !
  8. What I have ended up doing for Season 4 and 5 is to FFWD through ALL the scenes with: - Just the girls together doing girlie things - Scenes with Bernadette and anyone else - Scenes with Amy trying to seduce Sheldon I watched the parts with the guys being themselves (well, their "changed" selves) - no thanks to the creators/writers !! That made seasons 4 and 5 more palatable. And, for the record, the season 5 finale where everyone started to hold hands - even Sheldon - made me GAG ! Gimme a break, already.
  9. BINGO !!! I absolutely agree with you. Relationships that come/go are ok in small doses, but the SHOW must revolve around the stereotypical nerds that we know and love. It is THEIR trials, nerd culture, and REAL science that makes the show funny, entertaining, and UNIQUE. I, too, will stop watching if I see that they have taken the show even farther away from its roots. If I have to sit through relationship issues (the wet blanket that now covers the show), I will walk away from the show - and let the people who crave "romantic-comedy-formula" garbage to enjoy what this once-great show ha
  10. Science - PLEASE ! I want the show to get back to its roots - which is where I got hooked on it. After Season 3 it dissolved into less and less about quirky nerds and more about run-of-the-mill relationship garbage that you can get on any other sitcom out there. It has been watered-down enough !!!
  11. I never liked the theme song and find it annoying. It is also one of those tunes that is just "catchy-enough" to stick with you and drive you bannanas as you sing it (or try to) in your head long after you have heard it. I FFwd through it every time but usually catch just enough of it to induce the "residual effect" above - LoL !
  12. If anyone has read any of my posts, you'd already know what I am about to write. Season 1-3 Sheldon (and everyone else) is what I prefer. It is the introduction of the now "regular" female characters, their female "circle", and the interaction with the guys (for the sake of creating "relationships") that caused the male characters that we knew and loved, to forcibly "adapt" (change) into what they have now become - regular and boring. Bring the show back to its roots, let the show be about the guys being themselves, and let us laugh and enjoy the show again. And BTW, Sheldon as a log
  13. Who got left out? Penny, or the 'treasured acquaintance'? To me, I like the show as a "guy" thing. A story about guys, for guys. I find the other supporting characters to be just that - supporting side stories - no more. I'd rather have most of the focus of the show be on the 4 guys.
  14. Well, I would have preferred it to end earlier than morph into an "all crowd-pleasing" show that drifted away from its unique comedic formula. If they found their story-lines getting tired and the ratings starting to drop, I would have preferred that they end it on a high note - rather than changing the show into something that had become more and more difficult to stomach. Long live Seasons 1-3. :-) PS - I still love the show - (mostly for the 4 main characters) - but that love is slowly dissolving...
  15. This isn't a soap opera. I actually think it (is) turning into a soap opera. Time will tell where the writers take it from here.
  16. Wish list: - The writers re-watch all episodes in seasons 1-3, and half of season 4 to re-calibrate their minds regarding how great the show was back then. - The writers, after experiencing this epiphany, get rid of Amy and Bernadette (I don't care how), and put the show back on solid ground with the foundation of the 4 nerdy geniuses and 1 hot neighbor across the hall. - More science - More guy-stuff (games, comics, movies, female conquests/failures, etc) - NO wet-blanket relationship karma-killing girlfriend crap anymore - More of the Moms - More guest stars from any/all science ficti
  17. Sorry to reference Seinfeld again, but there is one pertinent analogy. When George was going to get married to Susan, they ended up killing her character off. Prior to that, it was foreshadowed - if you remember - George was trying to underline that the George you know and love (independent George) is a different entity than "relationship George". The quote was "If relationship George walks through this door, he will kill independent George". The Seinfeld folks "got" it. Introducing a permanent "relationship" with the main characters would change the original chemistry too much
  18. Friends was funny when the main characters were actually just friends with each other. It was complicated and uncomfortable when their interactions with each other changed so significantly - being "more than just friends". They became different people than the ones we grew attachment to earlier on. It is fine to have relationships outside of the friends circle, but when they start "mingling" as more than that - it is too big a change.
  19. I am happy to see that I am not alone in my conclusion that the show has de-volved into a standard "relationship-driven" sitcom - just like all the other watered-down "formula" sitcoms out there. I started, and "stayed" watching because of the science, and the "unique" comedy that presented itself in witnessing the struggles that people generally defined as "geeks" deal with. I loved Sheldon's scientific rants. Holy crap - Kudos to Jim for his skills at being able to do that - WOW ! The Penny character was always hit-and-miss for me. I could see how it was "interesting" to have, b
  20. True. Maybe S1,2 are still so fresh in my mind, since I power-watched all the seasons in rapid succesion in a 2 week marathon catch-up, that it only seems like it happened just yesterday.
  21. I must say that I did not expect all of you, for the most part, to have such knowledgeable and intellectual commentary on this subject. Truly the fans of the show are of a higher calibre and maturity - evident in the posts in this thread. I am impressed - other forums out there would quickly turn this into a flame war. :-)
  22. Thanks for all the insightful posts, folks. My main point in my original post was to point out my observations on the show - from the perspective of someone that has watched all the Seasons 1-4, and half of Season 5 in a 2 week period. I love the show, but I loved what it "was" much more than what it has "become". I understand that relationships are inevitable, however there is way too much focus on it now. Like I said before, you can tune in to any sitcom out there and see "relationship" story lines. What I liked the most about the "4 guys" was the uniqueness of their characters, and t
  23. I had never watched this show until about 1 month ago. Someone told me it was funny, so I decided to give it a try. So, I got a hold of seasons 1-4, and watched them all within the span of 2 weeks. Seeing all episodes, one after the other, immediately (without a 1 week separation between episodes), gave me a unique perspective on how the show has evolved/changed over the seasons. In a nutshell, I really liked the show a lot - mostly because of the interactions of the 4 male characters and their dealings with everyone else. I liked how they played off each other's quirks and stayed tru
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