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  1. This is the Season 12 thread for Lenny. This is a Ship Zone and contains Spoilers.
  2. This thread is for discussion of Season 12, and spoilers are allowed. Discussion of ideas from previous seasons, unless they pertain to season 12 topics, should go into the non-season 12 Show Discussion thread. We do allow some latitude, but if posts not about season 12 go too far off topic, or continues too long, we may move them.
  3. This thread is for Season 12 related discussion of perceived problems with the Lenny paring. Please remember, this is not a ship thread. While it is primarily for Leonard and Penny, comments about or concerning other characters can be referenced, and be replied to. If anyone doesn't want to talk about other characters, the best bet is not to refer to other characters here. Use the Shipping Lanes thread.
  4. 'Bout that time again! In this thread, you'll find all the information you need for attending a taping of the Big Bang Theory. You can always check this first post for updated information on when tapings will be held and when tickets will be available for them. If you are looking for members to attend with, or are looking for extra tickets for your party, or just have questions about tapings or suggestions based on your own experience, comment here! I want to give a shout out to one of our Valued Contributors, fitzsimmons, for coming up with the idea for this thread several years ago, and for keeping it up for the last several years. Getting Tickets Where to get tickets: Audiences Unlimited When to get tickets: Tickets are available on the AU website 30 days before the taping at approximately 8:30 am PST. (That's 9:30am Mountain, 10:30am Central, and 11:30am Eastern.) This only applies to weekdays, so if the calendar shows 30 days prior to a taping is a weekend, it will fall on the Monday. Tickets going up at 8:30am is a loose guideline; they have been known to go up as early as 7:45am or as late as 8:50am. It does vary. Click here to see what time it is in Los Angeles so you know how that compares to your time zone. How to get tickets: Make sure to only submit for one ticket at a time, one for each name in your party. You cannot submit a ticket request for multiple guests. Warner Brothers needs each party's name individually, so if you're getting multiple tickets, do them one at a time and select 1 ticket. The following are the current taping dates, along with the date Tickets should be available: Taping Tickets Available. Aug 21, 2018 23 Jul, 2018 Aug 28, 2018 30 Jul, 2018 Sep 05, 2018 06 Aug, 2018 Sep 18, 2018 20 Aug, 2018 Sep 25, 2018 27 Aug, 2018 Oct 09, 2018 10 Sep, 2018 Oct 16, 2018 17 Sep, 2018 Oct 30, 2018 01 Oct, 2018 Traveling to/Staying in Los Angeles Where to fly into: Use the Matrix website to search flights out of and into multiple airports (if you have several options) as well as multiple travel dates to find the cheapest and best option for your travel. Fares tend to be the lowest if you search between Tuesday and Thursday. Weekends are when airlines tend to raise the prices of travel. Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) is located at 1 World Way, Los Angeles, CA 90045, and is approximately 25.8 miles away from the Warner Brothers Studios. It is more likely to have better flight options, possibly better prices, and more options for international travelers. Downside is its distance from Warner Brothers and travel to and from LAX can be brutal on weekday rush hour times, so be sure to allow a lot of time for travel. Bob Hope Airport (BUR) is located at 2627 N Hollywood Way Burbank, CA 91505, and is 4.2 miles away from the Warner Brother studios. Flights to and from this airport may be more expensive, less frequent, or unavailable depending on point of origin. But it is an option to consider if you are traveling domestically. **Southwest Airlines allow you to change your flight dates with no penalty, so if you are concerned about booking flights in case your taping is rescheduled or canceled, this is a good way to go! (Thanks delsino for this information.) Read their refund policy here and their no change fees policy here. Where to stay (and who recommends it, if any): This is by no means a comprehensive list. There are tons of hotels, hostels, and other options for your lodging in the city. There are just a few suggestions to start you off, but feel free to check Google Maps, Hotels.Com, or other travel sites like Travelocity or Expedia for other options. You may also look into using an AirBnB for your stay. Tangerine Hotel (3901 W Riverside Dr. Burbank, CA 91505) ★ Most members use this hotel 0.4 miles north of Warner Brothers 30.3 miles northeast of LAX Airport 3.5 miles south of Bob Hope Airport (Burbank) http://www.tangerinehotel.com (818) 843-1121 Approx. $140-160/night. Best Western (3910 W Riverside Dr. Burbank, CA 91505) 0.4 miles north of Warner Brothers 24.9 miles northeast of LAX Airport 3.5 miles south of Bob Hope Airport (Burbank) http://book.bestwestern.com (818) 842-1900 Approx. $180/night. Travelodge Burbank Glendale (1112 N Hollywood Way Burbank, CA 91505) 1.8 miles north of Warner Brothers 26.6 miles northeast of LAX Airport 1.8 miles south of Bob Hope Airport (Burbank) http://www.travelodge.com/ (818) 845-2408 Approx. $98/night. Portofino Inn Burbank (924 W Olive Ave, Burbank, CA 91506) 2.3 miles northeast of Warner Brothers 29.2 miles northeast of LAX Airport 2.9 miles southeast of Bob Hope Airport (Burbank) http://www.portofinoburbank.com/ (818) 848-5100 Approx. $128/night. Burbank Inn and Suites (180 W Alameda Ave Burbank, CA 91502) 3.4 miles northeast of Warner Brothers 28.8 miles northeast of LAX Airport 4.1 miles southeast of Bob Hope Airport (Burbank) http://www.burbankinnandsuites.com/ (818) 842-1114 Approx. $139/night. Best Inn Hollywood (1822 N. Cahuenga Blvd. Hollywood, CA 90028) ★ Rick71 3.6 miles south of Warner Brothers 24.7 miles northeast of LAX Airport 5.1 miles south of Bob Hope Airport (Burbank) http://www.bestinnhollywood.net/ (323) 467-2252 Approx. $90-110/night. Ramada Burbank Airport (2900 N San Fernando Blvd. Burbank, CA 91504) ★ kazzie 4.2 miles north of Warner Brothers 36.1 miles northeast of LAX Airport 1.2 miles north east of Bob Hope Airport (Burbank) 1.0 mile east of Hollywood Way / Winona Metro 222 bus stop http://www.ramadaburbank.com (818) 843-5955 * info@ramadaburbank.com USA Hostels Hollywood (1624 Schrader Boulevard Hollywood, CA 90028) ★ notchinc 3.8 miles south of Warner Brothers 13.6 miles northeast of LAX Airport 7.6 miles south of Bob Hope Airport (Burbank) 0.4 miles east of Hollywood/Highland Metro Station, 0.4 miles west of Hollywood/Vine Metro Station http://www.usahostels.com/hollywood (323) 462-3777 * hollywood@usahostels.com Approx. $45/night Banana Bungalow Hollywood (5920 Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90028) 4.7 miles south of Warner Brothers 22.7 miles northeast of LAX Airport 7.8 miles south of Bob Hope Airport (Burbank) http://www.bananabungalowus.com/ (323) 469-2500 Approx. $25-30/night. Hollywood Youth Hostel (for international travelers only) (6820 Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90028) 3.5 miles south of Warner Brothers 12.4 miles northeast of LAX Airport 7.1 miles south of Bob Hope Airport (Burbank) Across the street from Hollywood / Highland Center and Metro Station. http://www.ushostel.com/ (323) 463-2770 Approx. $25-30/night How to travel: SuperShuttle: Service to and from LAX and BUR. Cheaper than a taxi. You can arrange for it to pick you up anywhere and take you to the airport for when you need to arrive for your flight. You can also arrange for the shuttle to pick you up for free from North Hollywood Station if traveling to Bob Hope Airport in Burbank. Primetime Shuttle: Service to and from LAX and BUR. Similar to the SuperShuttle, prices may vary between services, so check them both and see what's best for you. Rent a car: Both LAX and BUR have car rental services at the terminal. Uber/Lyft: These are ridesharing apps you can download on your mobile phone. They are cheaper than taxis as they use local drivers (vetted by the companies) to pick you up and drive you to your destination for a price lower than cab fare. You can use this for local transportation between destinations or even to the airport if necessary. Public Transportation: The 222 Metro busline between Sunland and Hollywood/Highland station stops right outside of Gate 3. Other buses within walking distance are nearby as well, depending on your point of origin. There are also a variety of car rental services available in Los Angeles. Taping Day Information Where things are located: Line up for Big Bang Theory Taping: Gate 3, Warner Brothers Studios, Burbank, CA (approx. 4301 W. Olive Ave, Burbank, CA 91505) Warner Brothers VIP Tours (approx. 3400 Riverside Dr Burbank, CA 91505) Tickets available at: www.wbstudiotour.com. Where to line up: Depending on what time you arrive, the line may be in one of two different locations. If you arrive in the morning or early afternoon, the line (both guaranteed and standby ticket-holders together) will be outside in the parking lot next to the parking garage. Sometime around 3:30, Audiences Unlimited staff will arrive to bring the line inside the parking garage where the benches and bathrooms are located. They will split the line into two: one for guaranteed ticket holders, and one for standby ticket holders. This is the view of the parking structure from across the street. If you drive, you will pull into the garage where it's marked on the right below. The middle section is where the elevator and stairs from the garage come out. The left is where you will go line up early in the day. If you arrive after the line has moved, you may enter where it is indicated in the middle below. Here is a close up of the gap in the trees where you will enter to find the line in the parking lot. This is directly across the street from where you enter for the line. Good landmark and photo opp! This is what the line will look like when you arrive. The line starts at the benches and snakes around to the sidewalk. Please note: if the line is outside, it is standby AND guaranteed TOGETHER. Audiences Unlimited will split the line when they arrive around 3:30 and move you inside. You may also watch this virtual tour video for a better sense of where things are located and how to get around! Tips for taping day Here is some information about what to expect on taping day, along with a few things that seasoned vets recommend for your experience. Food and beverage: Bring snacks and drinks for your wait in line. There are also vending machines and water fountains inside the parking garage, so bring some change or bills if you'd like to have that option. There is a snack machine, cold beverage machine, and hot beverage machine (with coffee and hot chocolate). There are many restaurants in the area that you may choose to go to during the day (as long as someone is willing to hold your place in line!). Many people like to visit the Starbucks or Chipotle for fuel. There are lots of other options in the area, so check out a map and see if there's something you might like. There are also a number of places that will deliver food if you're afraid of leaving the line. You can use GrubHub (download for Apple or Android phones) to find a cuisine that you like. They accept PayPal, Credit Cards, and Cash. Use the 4301 W. Olive Ave address for where they should deliver, and they can meet you out at the bus stop. Pizza and a small bottle of water will be served roughly halfway through the taping. If you have allergies (lactose, gluten, etc) and think you may need to eat during the taping, bring something alternative with you. I've never seen them confiscate food, so you should be able to bring it in. Just don't make a mess! Bathroom breaks: There are men's and women's restrooms inside the parking garage structure that you may use all during the day while you are waiting in line. As you are being brought into the studio, there is sometimes an opportunity to stop and use a bathroom on the way in. This is typically only an option if you are guaranteed or one of the first few groups of standbys let in. As they get closer to taping time, there isn't time for them to stop and let the group use the restrooms. So be aware that while it is possible to use the bathroom on the way in, it doesn't always happen. Your best bet is to use it while you are in the parking garage. Once you are in the studio, there will not be an opportunity to use the bathroom until after the first scene is filmed. This is because they need to have an accurate head count while filling the audience, and if people are coming and going, that's not possible. So if you are brought into the studio at 4pm, your next break may not be until after 6:30pm. So plan your breaks accordingly. You can use the bathroom during the taping; however, it is very likely that you will miss a portion of the scene. Bathrooms are a walk, and even if you are quick and you return in a short amount of time, they may not open the stage doors until the scene is done filming. You just have to decide if you want to miss part of the taping to use the bathroom. My own personal rule is "no liquids after 3pm" (a slight modification of Sheldon's advice). That allows me to take my last bathroom break by 4 or 4:30pm and not have to interrupt my enjoyment of the show. Obviously everyone's needs vary, so do you! Seating: There are approximately 246 seats in the stage. A maximum of seventy-five of these may be reserved for VIP (sometimes fewer, and on very rare occasions, they may make an exception to go over). The audience is broken into four sections that are six rows deep. The two middle sections are much wider (approximately 15-16 seats wide) and the two sections on the ends are shorter (approximately six seats wide). The middle two sections of the audience will be filled first before seating will begin on the wings. Standby will be let in once all VIP and guaranteed ticketholders present have been brought into the studio. Once that happens, they will assess how many empty seats are available and begin to bring in standby ticketholders in groups of about ten at a time. More VIP or guaranteed may show up during this time and jump the line, but they will not take your seat from you once you are "in." The amount of standby that get in varies from show to show. It's been as high as 70 and as low as three. It all depends on how many guaranteed ticketholders and VIP show up. Generally, a good 25-40 get in, but this is by no means a guarantee. There are truly no "bad seats" in the house. If you're off to the side, you may have a better view of the "swing sets" (sets that come and go based on the needs of the episode). Penny's apartment, the hallyway, and the boys' apartment are always center stage. The other sets for the episode will be set up on the sides. If you don't have a good view of a particular scene from where you're sitting, there are monitors all around the studio on which you may watch the action. Autographs: There is not an official opportunity to meet the cast. However, some members have gotten lucky running into them in the parking lot after the taping, or they may sometimes hang out at the barrier after the curtain call. Do not bring merchandise or other items to get signed. They will confiscate it from you at the security checkpoint, and you will have to pick it up after the taping. Handicap access: Call or email Audiences Unlimited ahead of time if you think you may need handicap access. The walk from the parking garage to the stage is very long, so they have golf carts they may take you over in. There is also a lift in the studio that you may use if you are in a wheelchair or use a cane or just cannot take the stairs. Handicap access seats are located stage left (meaning the far right of the audience) in the front row. This gives you a good view of the boys' apartment, as well as whatever swing set may be off to that side. Miscellany Bring a watch! You may find yourself wondering what time it is, only to realize you don't have your phone on you. Tapings are generally 3-4 hours long. This depends on how long the scenes take to film and how many of them were pre-taped (more pre-taped scenes means it will go more quickly). If the scenes are few but long, it will also go more quickly. If the scenes are short and many, it may take longer because each set up will take time. Cell phones cannot be brought into the stage. If you need to have your phone for safety reasons (traveling alone, no car, etc) you must give your phone with photo ID to security when you enter the stage. Phone must be powered down completely. You will get it back after the taping. You may be asked to participate in a few fun activities that keep the audience entertained while filming is not taking place. Participation is completely optional. However, be prepared to possibly: dance, sing (if you're from another country), imitate a barnyard animal, share a weird talent, talk about why you love Big Bang Theory, and much more! These activities can be fun and you have a chance to win candy or a color photograph of the cast. If you have any other information that you think would be helpful to this post, please comment below or PM Tensor
  5. This thread is a catch all for all posts that are off topic in a thread. While we do allow short diversions within a thread, if an off topic discussion goes too long, it may be moved here. Examples include severe weather discussion, political discussion, Naval discussion among others.
  6. Tensor

    Season 12 Chit Chat Thread

    Speaking of Star Trek, I saw an ad for the following. Most here will get it:
  7. I had a boss at one point who's last name had 12 letters in it, his boss, and eventually all of us, when not needing to be formal, started calling him B+11. I guess I could have gone with I + 12. 😛
  8. Look at it this way skull, in 8.24, they took a whole year to fix the problems that kissed caused, but it was fixed. There is no year available to fix 12.03, and to some unknown number, but more than a few, of Lenny fans, the "donation" arc, has simply made it worse. They still haven't talked about it, so when is that going to happen? We got seven episodes left to tape. And, as it+11 pointed out, now we have Penny knowing Leonard was not all right with not having kids. And now, Penny's upset because she is disappointing the two most important men in her life. And, to top it off, at some point, Penny is going to have to watch Leonard see his closest friends raising their kids, kids he wanted and won't get, at this point. All of that doesn't make me, or quite a few other fans, happy about the show.
  9. This is the Season 12 thread for Shamy. This is a Ship Zone and contains Spoilers.
  10. More info from Nicole: the babies are in car seats (since the book suggests doing the experiments when they're in the car, they just did them in the car seats in the living room). They pre-taped one of the scenes where you can see Michael's hand, in the other scenes they have dolls in the car seats (a larger one for Halley) so you can "see" the tops of their heads. As for Sheldon needing to warm to kids, I got the impression it came from his comments in the last few episodes about not caring to be around Howard and Bernadette's babies. ALSO - we get to hear Halley speak!
  11. Here’s a few more Lenny bits: Leonard and Penny, only had the first part of one scene together, but in my opinion it was very cute. We got them saying I love you and hugging. It was when she was leaving for the conference. There were jokes on his end about being worried she might not come back - since she packed a lot of clothes, which she did because she was nervous- but it wasn't anything serious, just their bantering back and forth that they've been doing over the past few seasons.)
  12. Here’s a short description of the taping last night. It’s from Nicole, and if there are any questions I can pass them along: Alright so episode is called The Conference Valuation. In addition to the main seven, we have Stuart, Beverly (though that scene isn't going to be filmed until later in the week) and a few one off characters. The A storyline is Penny and Bernadette at a conference for the drug they were working on together. Penny is an amazing saleswoman and the other drug companies take note of that. One rival company offers her a job with them. She (briefly) entertains it because she's flattered, Bernadette is upset at the idea that she might take it, but she turns it down and says she's very happy where she is. B storyline is while Penny and Bernadette are gone, Howard is responsible for the kids (there is a line I really loved where he says he can handle babysitting and Bernadette goes "you're not babysitting, they're your children, you're parenting.)" He has Shamy + Leonard + Raj over for board games, and they end up "doing experiments" on the babies from a book Sheldon found at the bookstore, which includes testing to see which hand is dominant, object permanence, etc. Leonard realizes that this was his entire childhood. We find out later that Amy purposefully had Sheldon find that book and then come over to get him interested in babies. The tag is him admitting he wants kids, but they have to be great in number and be divisible by three so he can do the experiments he wants on them.
  13. Tensor

    Hello everyone!

    Welcome FordE. I started watching with third episode, back in 2007. Hope you enjoy your time here.
  14. Tensor

    Season 12 Chit Chat Thread

    Not surprising. It started with you claiming Jim was equal to Bob Newhart and objecting to my comment that the Emmys award quirky characters. When I provided evidence for my position, you made a different comment. We know from your previous statements, you don’t think Jim is a legend yet. Although I agree he may be. Look, if it’s your opinion that you think Jim is great, that’s fine. What I was replying to were you flat statements you were using as evidence for your contention, which were easily refuted.
  15. For those who know Nicole and Roxanne, they both got a picture of themselves, sitting on the couch. Photo cred for the picture was by Johnny Galecki. And another with Johnny. Unless posted by either Nicole or Roxanne, images from their IG accounts will be removed, so please don't link. Do feel free to visit Nicole's IG account.
  16. Tensor

    Season 12 Chit Chat Thread

    I'll give you the Normal Heart, as for the rest, they are not individual awards. And, I'm not sure how any of this refutes my contention that quirky roles get more consideration in comedy than centered character roles. And? Did he win any awards? What exactly do you mean by close to? Kaley had 61 acting credits, Johnny has 54, Jim has 38? Johnny has more producing credits, than Jim, but Jim has more than Kaley.
  17. I haven't been putting up the ratings this year. Several factors have come together to keep me from doing it. But, I have some info for the year so far. Here are all the scripted series shows, on each network. You'll note that there are only two series that are above a 2.0. This is Us at 2.170 and TBBT at 2.290. You know CBS wanted to continue TBBT. Almost two thirds of CBS' shows are below a 1.0. CBS has a 1.011 average for all it's shows. If you take out TBBT from their schedule, the average for CBS drops to a 0.950. I can see the rest of Thursday night dropping a bit, without a TBBT lead in, so it's possible CBS may be closer to a 0.9 next year. The CBS table offers reasoning as to why Mom got a two season pickup. When TBBT leaves next year, Mom becomes the number 2 comedy on CBS.
  18. Tensor

    Season 12 Chit Chat Thread

    Actually, I spent about 10-15 minutes, 20, if you count the time to type it in. Multiple awards for the same character doesn't really mean anything, either. Don Knotts won five Emmy's playing Barney Fife, moved to movies and other than those movies where he played another version of Barney Fife, can you tell me off the top of your head, what other movies was he in? Not to mention, it took him over a decade to return to series television, where he played another version of Barney Fife. There's a pattern in the others who won multiple awards. They win for a specific character, then nothing. Richard Mulligan is a rare actor won for two separate characters, but they were very similar. The one guy I have to give credit to is Ed Asner. He won two comedy awards for Lou Grant, on Mary Tyler Moore. After that show ended, he (and the character) moved to another show, the drama Lou Grant and won a drama award, for the same character. Although, I would argue that the character in the show Lou Grant, was the same character in name only, as the character was quite a bit different than the character in MTM. I've got news for you, anyone (even those small guest staring roles) on a broadcast series is a good actor and any role takes a lot of dedication and work. It doesn't matter if they are classically trained (Like Jim, Simon, and Melissa or got there through experience (or as called by Mayim, feral actors like Johnny, Kaley and Mayim). And writing has a huge amount to do with how characters comes across. I'd point out the I don't think Jim could do what Johnny does with Leonard, nor could he have pulled off early Howard. In addition to being a good actor, every casting director has an idea of how an actor can fit into a role. Lorre wanted Johnny for Sheldon, but Johnny wanted Leonard, due to the romantic angle, something he didn't normally get cast for. So, Lorre went with Johnny for Leonard and Jim auditioned for and got Sheldon. It may be different for me as I usually rerun the show several times, looking at the acting choices they make, looking at their motions and movement. I usually get cast as CPA or Professor types, but the three roles everyone comments on are the three quirky roles I played. Do actors have to bring that writing alive, sure. But, without the writing, there is nothing for the actor to bring alive. You're trying to make quirky as something that requires something special, when in reality the majority of it is the writing.
  19. Tensor

    Season 12 Chit Chat Thread

    I liked him early in the run, as the writers had him more of an innocent, than unlikeable. It's only after they started making him aware of what he was doing, and he kept doing it, did he become unlikeable for me. The big draw, for me, was the differences between his innocent reactions and the reactions of the others, who didn't get he really didn't understand what he was doing, socially. And that is based on, what exactly? Perhaps you can point out what exactly the rating would have been if he had been unlikeable. How about we tighten it up then. Lets see, Starting in 1965, when the comedy and drama awards were separated Don Adams, Maxwell Smart Get Smart 3 times Jack Klugman/Tony Randall Oscar Madison/Felix Unger Odd Couple 3 awards. Carroll O'Conner Archie Bunker All in the Family 4 awards Jack Albertson Ed Brown Chico and the Man Alan Alda Hawkeye Pierce MASH 2 Awards Richard Mulligan Bert Campbell/Dr Harry Weston Soap/Empty Nest Robert Guillaume Benson DuBois Benson John Ritter Jack Tripper Three's Company Craig T Nelson Hayden Fox Coach Micheal J Fox Alex Keaton Family Ties 3 Awards Ted Danson Sam Malone Cheers Kelsey Grammar Fraiser Cane Fraiser 4 awards John Lithgow Dick Solomon Third Rock From the Sun 3 Awards Alec Baldwin Jack Donaghy 30 Rock 2 Awards Tony Shalhoub Adrian Monk Monk 2 Awards Jim Parsons Sheldon Cooper The Big Bang Theory 4 awards Jeffrey Tambor Maura Pfefferman Transparent 2 awards. That's 39 out of the fifty years it was awarded from 1965 to 2015. The list here are the obvious ones, and there could be ten more, but that may get into a discussion of what exactly is quirky. The list for best supporting actor is even more loaded towards quirky and includes such actors as Don Knotts (with five awards), John Larroquette with four (all consecutive and he refused to be put up for any more awards, after the fourth) five actors with three, and eight with two. And, again, only the obvious ones, there cold be another 4 quirky characters. Again, I'm not saying Jim didn't deserve the award, an actor still has to play the role. But, they are, in comedy, far more likely to be awarded to a quirky or oddball character than a calm eye of the storm type character. But, in my opinion, awards are overrated. Does anyone really think that Jon Cryer deserved his Emmy for acting the year he won, or was it just pity due to the circumstances?
  20. Tensor

    Season 12 Chit Chat Thread

    Blossom is a good definition of a cult classic. Not very well regarded or highly rated when it was on, and mostly remembered by a small group of people.
  21. I would say, no joke, between 6 and 7 AM. If you go to the first post, of this thread, there are descriptions as to where to line up.
  22. the discussion about Jim was moved to the Chit Chat thread.
  23. Tensor

    Season 12 Chit Chat Thread

    This is simply a generalization. There isn't any more good or bad acting, or over the top and sappy, these days, than there was in back in the day. Some of the best comedy and dramatic TV shows were in the fifties and early sixties. Schlitz Playhouse of the Stars, General Electric Theatre, Lux Theatre, or Ford Theatre included actors considered among the very best of their time (including Charlton Heston, Jimmy Stewart.). Same thing with movies. Depends on your definition of Legend. Chuck Lorre, has four that I would consider legends (and not just televison) Christine Baranski and Allison Janey, Micheal Douglass and Alan Arkin working for him. For brevity, I'll just name four actors and four actresses. Most of them have worked on TV and Movies. Leo DiCaprio, Robert Redford, Robert Di Nero, Al Pachino, Glenn Close, Meryl Streep, Helem Mirrem, Judy Dench. I could be here for and hour. I don't. Don't get me wrong, I think Jim is a great actor. But Newhart (in both his series) made something very difficult, look very easy (something Judd Hirsch also did in taxi, and Andy Griffith in The Andy Griffith Show among others). The person who is the calm in the eye of the storm. The actor who sets everyone else up. Those people don't get many nomination or awards. It's the quirky character that usually gets the awards. Those three I mentioned got a total of five Emmy nominations, and one win, for their shows, and they are and were among some of the most respected actors on TV.
  24. That works both ways. Sheldon is tied to Leonard also. That was illustrated even in the last episode, when Sheldon was jealous of Leonard being chosen by Zack and Marissa to be the donor. There are more examples of Leonard being able to move on, and Sheldon not being able.
  25. Having a lot in common does not always mean good compatibility when it comes to marriage. Just like couples of opposite personality does not mean they will have a bad marriage. For me, it wasn't until mid season five that they showed Sheldon had made enough progress to make his marriage to Amy, at some point, inevitable. And even then, there were periods and episodes that indicated he might not ever be ready. Of course, YMMV.
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