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Everything posted by Nogravitasatall

  1. I want my suit. The Marauder one. Just in case. The thing is people have been the same for a long time. Some people have the insight to observe and predict and some others have the insight to observe and then grab the levers. I’ve known a psychopath - she knew how grab the levers. But she didn’t get 13 years of fake “reality” show and a $400m inheritance to build a public image and gain enough public confidence to execute her scams. Heinlein. Sigh. I’m probably not critical enough myself about his works. “Farnham’s Freehold” is pretty disturbing. Let’s hope his predictive powers were off there. Its all going a bit pear shaped, really.
  2. Thanks for the clarification. I’m sure if there is an opportunity to game it, it will be gamed. Daily I read the news to find what’s happened next. Cliffhangers and plot twists every night! I’m 12,000km away. I have no idea what being there is like.
  3. That’s the whole point. It’s in the “what the hell? ” column. Why, just why? And regarding Russia. Extremely unlikely, given NATO. But wait... who wants to kill that again. Starts with T. Crazy. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/trump-defects-autocrats/596518/
  4. I read that just getting the trucks with food and necessities across the Channel will be challenging, just because they will have stop and park for customs checks. 20km queues. The modern economy is built on “just in time” supply chains. This breaks the chains. And who knows what troubles will again arise in Northern Ireland. It’s not like there’s history or anything. It’s very vexed. November 1 is coming quickly for the UK. And then there’s next November. Plus, the inverted yield curve occurrence. And the Greenland thing. It goes on. It’s all too weird. Edit: And as others were speaking of American constitutional amendments, I understand the 25th has been evaded, because there isn’t a quorum of senate confirmed cabinet members, even if the intent could coalesce. “I like acting”. Rat cunning, right there.
  5. I understand it’s a bit tricky, being, I think, that it’s a consequence of having slavery as a national institution. Hard to untangle, I believe. That’s not so common elsewhere. Again, whole other country.
  6. From 12,000km away, it lookes to me that discussing a visit to Family Planning might have been challenging for the show. I could be wrong. It might have gone swimmingly. But they were not behind a subscription service, where apparently the grown-up conversation are safe to go on. It wasn’t a potential pregnancy, they could have been having a “go, no-go” conversation. I’d have been for that conversation but it may not have been funny, though it could be with excellent writing, but the show didn’t do much messaging of that type. Unless it was coded and I missed it. A member here once told me Chuck had an agenda, but they didn’t explain what it was.
  7. One’s thinking does crystallise when it’s not a hypothetical. I’m glad they’re happy with their unforced error. I’m sure it’s not uncommon. And at least Leonard didn’t have to stick to a roster to get there. That’s nice. Again, the chafing. Edit. Re democracy. Um... well. Thoughts and prayers?
  8. Gettin’ real there Tensor. It’s a dodge by the writers to have their cake (the dramatic conflict) and eat it too (a warm and fuzzy ending). It ain’t literature, are it. And yes, in a classically liberal democracy with no eye out for the lurking theocrats, that’d be a scene. Leonard and Penny sitting at the kitchen table discussing her choices. But for the pre-teens on the couch with mum watching alongside, maybe it’s thought to be too much.
  9. Ask as well how many Americans think 6001BCE* isn’t a thing. But I don’t really know. It’s a whole other country. edit: and in Oz voluntarily postponing sex has been non-dominant since the 70’s, I believe. (Being invited can still be challenging, I understand - s1-3 Howard et al are still relevant ) edit 2: sigh * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era?wprov=sfti1
  10. It seems to me that the invention of reliable methods of controlling fertility have disrupted these traditional models. The effects are still shaking out. It’ll take awhile. There’s a lot of inertia. The cultures are still working through the new possibilities. TBBT is just a tiny part of the ongoing process. A nano-mirror of the new potentials This new technology has profound levelling implications. And the patriarchy (aided by adherence to tradition) will fight it all the way. It’s a long slow revolution. To me at least, “try before you buy” is sensible. Better to know than not to know? It looks to be the dominant norm in Oz now. And we all know people were doing that forever anyway, just with greater risks and greater consequences. Still, people have their own beliefs. It’ll be interesting to see where this is at in 2119. Assuming...
  11. It’s possible. She may well be able to tolerate him for a long time. Or forever. I’d hope that she would get more chance to be her own person than we ever saw during the show. But that’s me, and what do I know. Seeing that she said that Leonard going to the bathroom whenever he wanted was “like an an animal” she may like the idea of order and structure to a near similar degree to Sheldon. And if she’s happy with executing deceptions like “schedule the nookie, but don’t tell me that you’ve scheduled it, so I be able to deceive myself that it’s spontaneous, and you can stop bothering me with things that clutter my calendar” , then it’ll be all be great. Her meta-control over Sheldon’s attempts at controlling her may work. Then maybe he’ll work out what she’s doing and respond with another added layer of control. It could end up as four dimensional chess between the two of them. They’ll be so happy. Anything could happen. She might get assigned a hot post-grad student and suddenly start working late in the lab. Heheh. Who knows.
  12. Yeah, well. It could play out that way for any of them. I’d think there’d be more stress on the Amy Sheldon deal. Amy has to fight hard for autonomy. Sheldon schedules everything they do to his benefit, from bowel movements to their nookie. Maybe she likes that, maybe it’ll become wearing. It’d be challenging long term. But for the moment they are all frozen in amber. Speculate away.
  13. I’d have been happy if Leonard and Penny had just left him on his own across the corridor, and if Leonard had explained why. The lesson would have lasted longer. But I understand the sentiment. Penny also could have ju-jitsued him more by deploying his his mother. It wasn’t to be of course. And there won’t be a reboot. This is over.
  14. I know what you mean, but in one framing it’s unclear that he would have understood why he got the beating. He had that discussion with his mum about being beaten up by “the neighbour kids”. He thought they felt inferior and threatened by his intellect. His mum knew it wasn’t that, and we laughed when she said it. He just couldn’t perceive it. He’s not aware of the consequences of his actions. Which then raises the question of is it moral to use his difference for humour, when he is unaware of the joke. Or he’s just an arsehole and is aware. In which case he deserves some consequences. I do favour that view. They played it both ways. Which maybe was a ethically challenged artistic dodge for the sake of getting a long run. Artistic or not, probably still dodgy. All the way to the bank.
  15. For the sake of learning something from some rebuttal, I’m going to walk out on a limb and say there was a certain moral ambiguity or greyness, or else some crass exploitation at work, by not letting him be responsible for his actions. They let the diagnosis stand at “I’m not crazy, my mother had me tested”. So ok, not crazy. Therefore competent. Therefore open to consequence. I liked him better as homo novus. Or like a less benign Uncle Martin (which was on TV here yesterday - broadcast TV. WTF). The alien observer. As a person, if he’s not conscious of the effect of his choices, is it fair or right to make him the butt of the jokes. If they had labelled him, maybe it would have been morally better. Claim his status. Be a standard bearer. Maybe not a 12 season run in that, though. As a regular guy, he certainly wasn’t good to his friends; “mad, bad, and dangerous to know” as they say. As a sitcom content generator, obviously awesome.
  16. ... as a bloke who once went to an Australian comic-con and only later realised he could have passed as Leonard ( except for the hair). And I won’t describe my wife... other than to say she was blonde when I met her. Some people don’t like olives and some people like surströmming. It’s a big world. I would argue Sheldon was unique on TV. Then latterly he became like many other masculine stereotypes. We’ve seen lots of demanding men who exploit the goodwill and needs of those around them. Some even not characters on TV. When he decried relationships he was special. Then they changed him to chase the long run. That’s when he lost most of his appeal for me, though it was a gradual process. Later, when I saw him as just petulant, I lost tolerance. But I hung in, hoping for Leonard and Penny to best him. And, if you look at it without considering the accumulated bad acts, it is funny. The season 12 gag with the hot dogs in New York, that I have seen, was chuckle worthy. The unhappy new bride, working around him, not so much. She knew what she was in for. It wasn’t a surprise. But it’s all moot now. I’m just kicking through the ashes. It drives engagement to have teams. Cricket demonstration of batting techniques aren’t riveting at all. I’d say there are many ancillary payoffs to rivalries.
  17. Before I withdrew myself from that thread for the benefit of all - because if you can’t say something nice, then stay on the series thread - I noted the various grasped straws detailed analyses, like the code embedded in the colours of tea cups (but maybe there was one; Howard’s alien pins had a deeper meaning, said a costumer, but I never discovered what) . In the long run it worked out fine for those fans but at the time (2013?) lots of extraordinary claims were made without the requisite extraordinary evidence. That’s fandom, isn’t it?
  18. I think it’s a matter of when you get on board and what you get on board for. It’s a subjective judgement. And rooting for the story to go on when it doesn’t is pretty familiar to me. So many shows I thought were great or interesting died prematurely. Firefly of course is a prime exemplar of the phenomenon. But people like what they like. Sheldon, to me, became a meaner, but intellectual, Biff Tanner, yet a still a bit of a sook along with it. Not appealing to me. And he initially had Leonard’s back. But that went away. He just took stuff. And Leonard rolled with it. Then Penny tended to take Sheldon’s side. Sucky. All done because if they didn’t then the show ended.
  19. Oh I don’t mean to be rude to the cohort, but we all might have sent “thoughts and prayers” for the actual effect we had. For one, Sheldon wasn’t smothered. Two, getting married didn’t get Sheldon out of there. And three, well, look. Just my opinion. An impression, in the afterglow.
  20. I feel Penny and Leonard were both pretty sucky to each other in order to coddle Sheldon. The show spent a long time persuading me that they really needed and wanted each other - hence the angst and drama of the season 4, the Priya digression, the Penny/Raj debacle, and then Penny and Leonard 2.0 - followed by what... seven season of enabling Sheldon while disparaging one another. They never or rarely had any fun that we saw, they just existed as props for gags about Sheldon. Penny fawned over Sheldon and rarely stood with Leonard against him. I kept hoping for better and hung around because of that hope. And what did I get for staying... the frakkin’ “boat kiss” cliffhanger. Then they served up the almost unnatural cohabitation with Sheldon, which was just ludicrous pandering, to both the character Sheldon and to the Sheldon fanciers. It didn’t seem to hurt the ratings though. People swallowed it all. Makes me realise how tiny and lacking influence the L/P cohort must have been. Sheldon was a juggernaut, and not in the Marvel comic sense.
  21. It sort of makes you think the well was dry, the seam mined out, the tank was empty. They may have been running on fumes. Season 13 and 14 is unknowable but in this analysis the signs are not good. Also, and it could be just me, but is there some moral greyness around the conclusion, where in fact the coyote did get to eat the roadrunner. Sheldon, for all the harm he caused to others, still got to the top of the greasy pole. Is there a lesson in that? Trample on others, relentlessly and indefatigably until you get to the top? That’s been a through line. Never give up, regardless of cost to those around you. More commonly, there is a comeuppance for that behaviour at the end of the story. Not this time. Or on balance, is it obvious it’s not behaviour to emulate? Edit: Another view is that the great man needed support to do his great works and overcome his failings, for some greater good. Maybe that too. I think they cut the character a lot of slack as they aimed for the long run. I also think they made the right choice to let the show end. They likely should have gone earlier, when they still had something new to say. But that’s not the business model for these things.
  22. Good points. It was counter to comedic tropes for the comedic irritant to get what they wanted. In this case the coyote got to eat the roadrunner, in a manner of speaking. Was the elevation deserved? I’m unsure. And how do people feel about an amateur physicist being included in the honours. I’m just not wrapped up enough in those characters to be thrilled for that either. I prefer your scenario. Still it’s been undeniably a commercial success. Kudos for that. It’s a tough business.
  23. Obligated to watch, ancillary to watching Leonard and Penny. Sheldon and Amy were unavoidable. How’s that? Maybe that’s why I can’t be bothered yet to watch s12. There just isn’t enough non-Sheldon and Amy content to compensate. And the pay-off for the Leonard and Penny story apparently just sucks. A Zack goose chase, regretful Penny who didn’t communicate with Leonard about a pretty major life decision and then a limp, facile and unexplored story about a pregnancy that may as well have been a phantom? Add to that a weird fictional Nobel that is just made-up fantasy that exploits a real award for which real people actually sweat and innovate and have momentous insights and make actual contributions to human knowledge that potentially affect the human condition. Exploited for laughs and a season-ending high. Hmmm.
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