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  1. On 5/13/2020 at 3:19 AM, Mario D. said:

    Yes I could never understand that joke about Luther. It was disgraceful, demeaning and was not funny or laughable. The writers did so much to promote Penny's promiscuousness even adding insult to injury with Sheldon's sexual insults. I could never comprehend why they had to continue with those lame jokes even after Penny and Leonard were engaged and then married. They were supposed to be his dearest friends but that did not stop him from throwing those insults. I know many people say Sheldon didn't mean it but he still said them and I believe he really knew what he was doing. I agree with you that they were in poor taste and written just for the laugh factor.

    Makes you wonder who was laughing at that one. It’s so ugly. I suspect, on the basis of no evidence, that it could be a Weinstein reference. And not meant to be funny. Some journalist could ask. 🤪


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  2. 3 hours ago, chucky said:

    Personally, I feel the writers were getting a few laughs at Penny's expense.

    Yes. Unsavoury laughs. The misfortunes of young women falling into bad situations are poor joke fodder. One step away from a Criminal Minds cold open. So many steps too far for light family comedy. What were they thinking?

     They could carry off a good fart joke though. Cruciferous Vegetables was very funny.

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  3. On 5/11/2020 at 2:03 AM, chucky said:

    I have often thought the same thing. I'm guessing that wouldn't have been funny to the writers.

    Hey there. Wow. I ducked back in for a look and saw the “Luther” issue got a bump. From 2013. 

    I’d just like to add still I wonder how much it was the writers entertaining themselves, or some editorially embedded misogyny, or some unconsciously embedded misogyny, or if they thought they were pandering to some market demand. Or that it was comedy serving a higher purpose, holding up a mirror to reflect some of the truths about how people behave badly (grab ‘em... etc).

    The show didn’t do much signalling, so it was perhaps just something unsavoury that leaked out.


  4. 17 hours ago, Tensor said:

    I still watch The Good Place, GLOW, and The Marvelous Mrs Masil.  Of course I have Netflix and Amazon.  Plan on getting HBO+, once it's up and running in May.  Other than those, I still watch TBBT on our local station and TBS.  Most of the time it's on when I'm working on the computer (I can see the TV screen over the top of my monitor).

    Two out of three.

    For harmlessness try “Death in Paradise”. It’s very benign, except for the deaths, of course. I like to watch it for the sunburned Brit guest actors who forgot their sunhats and sunblock. It’s a happy formula show with little cerebral requirement. 

    Friends is great. If only they weren’t all so pretty, it might have had a broader audience. The one with the mincemeat trifle still stands out for me. Genius. But I won’t deliberately sit down for it.

    We started watching TBBT s12 again but stalled at about s12.4. Howard and Bernie do get better and better, but no one here is clamouring to get to the end.

    I just watched the doco Never Surrender: A Galaxy Quest Documentary. That was charmingly engaging. Should be up the TBBT fanciers alley.

    The Tiger King thing looked too much like a car crash for me to engage with. Makes some regulation look sensible.

    Otherwise, most of my media consumption is about hoping for the sciences to catch up with our problems and wondering if the USA’s president is taking his own medical advice and when we will see the effects.

  5. On 4/1/2020 at 9:45 AM, Tonstar17 said:

    Thanks you all for the birthday wishes. Hope all is good. I haven't posted on here for awhile, due to not having much to share, but do lurk. Stay safe. emoji4.png

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    Another belated birthday wish. Stay well and indoors. 

    I’ve still not watched the last episodes. They are on the DVR. Maybe soon.

    Also, good luck everyone. 

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  6. see abc.net.au

    We spent all day yesterday  checking fire services websites to see where the fires are, so we can run away to somewhere safe if we have to flee, even if there is no immediate threat. The fires can travel faster than a person can run.

    Not all the wildlife is that quick.

    Under certain conditions ember attack can travel more than 5 kilometres ahead of the fire front. I have an alert set for fires at 10kms distance.

    And I live on the urban fringe. I can’t imagine what it’s like in the fire zones 

    Ancient rainforests, that may have never been involved with fire since Gondwanaland broke up, have been incinerated. An area maybe equivalent to Belgium has been burned.

    There is an index that estimates fire risk. 100 on the index is “catastrophic”, where fires can’t be contained. In some places the index hit 200.

    It’s just so dry. Everywhere.


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  7. 7 hours ago, chucky said:

    True, but I think I'll hang around till I'm pushed.  😊

    I still haven’t seen the last maybe five episodes.

    Reasons: Keeping the fires banked... waiting for Netflix... being in denial... waiting for the impeachment show to be over...  otherwise general procrastination. It no longer seems urgent, just something on the list.  L/P never held that pillow down or climbed over the wall to escape, they just waited him out. Not a dramatic crescendo, really. It reads like they just stopped. I had foolishly, and without reason, hoped for some demonstrations of gumption.

    But if when I watch it and it lights some fire , I might come back to rail. :) 

    (Otherwise my spouse has to hear it all, and golly, she’s over it.)

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  8. 22 minutes ago, joyceraye said:

    At first, yes, but now they can not only get up stairs, they can fly ! 

    Up to a point, very much so. There's a central mind in charge of them, which would suit him were he the boss.

    Their babies are made in a sort of laboratory. They do not become benign overlords though, which Sheldon wanted his offspring to be.

    I can remember being under age 7 and hiding behind the lounge (US: couch) when the titles were rolling and THAT music played. It may have been Troughton then.

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  9. On 9/18/2019 at 11:26 PM, joyceraye said:

    I recommend all The Sarah Jane Adventures, video and audio. There's nothing unsuitable for children, unlike Torchwood.  (Torchwood used  to be  shown in two versions  on different days, but the 'family' version was still somewhat near the border. It makes TBBT look like a Sunday School picnic . ) They show  SJA  on the BBC children's channel. 

     I loved  it, being a contemporary of Sarah Jane, and  I wept buckets when Elisabeth Sladen who played her died. I don't know why our  TBBT gang never mention it.  It has its share of  space aliens and amazing Sci-fi technology, not to mention the heroism involved in saving the universe every week.

    Sarah Jane first appeared in Jon Pertwee's era of Dr Who and continued to be a Companion to Tom Baker's Doctor. After  Elisabeth Sladen got married to another actor and had her daughter, Sarah Jane popped up almost exclusively on the radio although there was a TV pilot called A Girl's Best Friend that didn't get developed thanks to strikes. Then one day, with absolutely no pre-publicity whatsoever, in a David Tennant's Dr Who episode called School Reunion, there she was, with K9 in her boot (trunk) ! Tears and cheers from everybody over a certain age in the nation ! 

    SJA is made in English by  BBC Wales with few if any  concessions to the American market so you might need to get your grandaughter a  British glossary to go with the DVDs and/or CDs, Chucky.

    Much of what people need to know about The Doctor. I can’t find a Sarah Jane “singing and dancing” expositive. Someone should get on to that.

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  10. 11 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

    I hope all ours friends in Florida have battened down the hatches and are ready. I know your all in our thoughts

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    Yes. It’s a very broad threat at the moment. Awful.

     Stay safe. 

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  11. I was reading the news and watching some craziness out of some confab in France. It made me think about snowflakes. Then it made me think of a particular snowflake [#].  I had flashed back to the return from the North Pole.



    Edit: #that word has sort of been ruined (*deeper sigh*)

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  12. 2 hours ago, Tensor said:

    It's depressing how accurate something written in 1953, like the quotes in this article.

    I want my suit. The Marauder one. Just in case.

    The thing is people have been the same for a long time.  Some people have the insight to observe and predict and some others have the insight to observe and then grab the levers. I’ve known a psychopath - she knew how grab the levers. But she didn’t get 13 years of fake “reality” show and a $400m inheritance to build a public image and gain enough public confidence to execute her scams. 

    Heinlein. Sigh. I’m probably not critical enough myself about his works. “Farnham’s Freehold” is pretty disturbing. Let’s hope his predictive powers were off there.

    Its all going a bit pear shaped, really.


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  13. 47 minutes ago, Tensor said:


    That's not quite true.  Yes, it's been evaded, but not for that reasons.  For one, it doesn't say quorum of cabinet members.  The wording of the amendment, says "The Vice-President and the principal officers of the executive departments..."  (there's another possibility, that the congress passes a law designating another body as the deciding group, but that's not likely with a split congress, and not enough to override the for sure veto).

     Anyway, back to "The Vice-President and the principal officers of the executive departments...".  It doesn't distinguish between a senate approved secretary and an acting secretary, principal, could be deemed, the one in charge.  Now, I'm sure that there would be some sort of legal challenge,  if the president decided he wasn't going to go, on whether or not the acting secretary is the principal of that department.  Not to mention that as there are a lot of "Acting" heads of departments, those are quite loyal to Trump and won't vote him out.  

    It's really a moot point, right now.   Note the phrase, "The Vice-President AND, the principal..."   The Vice-President would also have to agree, and at this point, Pence is not going to try to get Trump removed from office this way.   That Pence refuses to act is the biggest reason the 25th Amendment hasn't been invoked yet.

    Thanks for the clarification. I’m sure if there is an opportunity to game it, it will be gamed.

    Daily I read the news to find what’s happened next. Cliffhangers and plot twists every night! I’m 12,000km away. I have no idea what being there is like.

  14. 2 hours ago, joyceraye said:

    I think if I lived in Greenland and thought the Russians might come one night and take over the island for nothing, but the US was not only offering protection but also to pay me a royalty on the profit from local resources, like they do in Alaska, I might just give the matter some thought. Whom do I want for Head of State ? Putin,Trump, Her Majesty. Hmmm. Putin ,Trump, Her Majesty. Decisions, decisions.

    I gather the place is not currently for sale anyway and there's no referendum pending so it's not an immediate problem. Apparently the last president to ask to buy was Truman in 1954. ( I looked that up, I didn't remember it. )

    That’s the whole point. It’s in the “what the hell? ” column. Why, just why?

    And regarding Russia. Extremely unlikely, given NATO. But wait... who wants to kill that again. Starts with T.



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  15. 9 hours ago, joyceraye said:

    Bold I looked it up when somebody in this thread told me. :) 

    There's been no firm decision about 'free movement' in Europe when/if  Brexit happens. It was included in the  offered 'deals' but none of the deals were accepted by Parliament. Trouble is, although 'free movement' is  fairly new, a lot of people who live in another country or who travel a lot for work are too young to remember what it was like before, so they worry.  All crossing a border involved was waving your passport and very occasionally being stopped to have your luggage looked at. Moreover, there are thousands of people from outside Europe who live and work here and vice versa. Before Poland joined the EU there were Polish people here, for example, and there's easily a couple of million Asians. I hear there are Americans too.  The EU has its knickers in a twist because the UK has a land border with another EU country, Ireland.  At the other end of the EU, where the newest members are former Soviet countries, the land borders are with Russia and nobody thinks anybody's going to take advantage of that. :) 

    I read that just getting the trucks with food and necessities across the Channel will be challenging, just because they will have stop and park for customs checks. 20km queues. The modern economy is built on “just in time” supply chains. This breaks the chains.

    And who knows what troublewill again arise in Northern Ireland.  It’s not like there’s history or anything.

    It’s very vexed. November 1 is coming quickly for the UK. And then there’s next November.  Plus, the inverted yield curve occurrence. And the Greenland thing. It goes on.

    It’s all too weird.

    Edit: And as others were speaking of American constitutional amendments, I understand the 25th has been evaded, because there isn’t a quorum of senate confirmed cabinet members, even if the intent could coalesce. “I like acting”. Rat cunning, right there.


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  16. 8 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

    They key words are the ones about air travel. That would NOT have been allowed. For international flights, the cutoff point often is earlier, sometimes as early as 28 weeks, depending on the airline. Obstetric conditions that may be exacerbated by flight or that could require emergency care scare the daylights out of airlines.

    Yes. Not everyone is like the states, where if you're born here, you're automatically a citizen, and for good reason. I wish frankly that we'd stop doing that.

     I understand it’s a bit tricky, being, I think, that it’s a consequence of having slavery as a national  institution. Hard to untangle, I believe. That’s not so common elsewhere. Again, whole other country.

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  17. 13 hours ago, Die Zimtzicke said:

    Again, we could go through two episodes about sperm donation but not discuss a pregnancy between two main characters?

    From 12,000km away, it lookes to me that discussing a visit to Family Planning might have been challenging for the show. I could be wrong. It might have gone swimmingly. But they were not behind a subscription service, where apparently the grown-up conversation are safe to go on.

    It wasn’t a potential pregnancy, they could have been having a “go, no-go” conversation. I’d have been for that conversation but it may not have been funny, though it could be with excellent writing, but the show didn’t do much messaging of that type. Unless it was coded and I missed it. A member here once told me Chuck had an agenda, but they didn’t explain what it was. 

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  18. 2 hours ago, Tensor said:


    Oh, I know that.  But, by not taking that route, they, probably unintentionally,  show she was happy about becoming pregnant.  

    While sadly true in come circumstances, the fact that something like Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, or Orange is the New Black, among others, is easily available, not to mention some of the dialog on TBBT, I don't see why it would be too much.  Not to mention I'm not sure that we qualify as a classically liberal democracy any longer.


    One’s thinking does crystallise when it’s not a hypothetical. I’m glad they’re happy with their unforced error. I’m sure it’s not uncommon.

    And at least Leonard didn’t have to stick to a roster to get there. That’s nice. Again, the chafing. 

    Edit. Re democracy. Um... well. Thoughts and prayers? 

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  19. 21 minutes ago, Tensor said:

    We saw two reactions on screen.  Sheldon's and Bernadette's.   Bernadette's was excited and happy,  So who is the normal person there, her's or Sheldon's?  I could have understood his saying something about Penny not wanting kids,  but to ignore it completely and just get up and leave, is not a normal reaction.  

    This is one of the things I don't understand about someone saying the Penny was so dead set against having kids.  If Penny was so against having a baby, why didn't she take the morning after pill (or depending on her preference, the Abortion Pill)?   Either would have more than likely (above 95% according to studies) have prevented or ended the pregnancy.  Also, Medical Abortion is legal in California, so that would have been an option, if she was so against having kids.   If she did decided to leave things to fate, that doesn't indicate that she was all that set against kids, knowing becoming pregnant is a definite possibility.

    Gettin’ real there Tensor. 

    It’s a dodge by the writers to have their cake (the dramatic conflict) and eat it too (a warm and fuzzy ending). 

    It ain’t literature, are it. And yes, in a classically liberal democracy with no  eye out for the lurking theocrats, that’d be a scene. Leonard and Penny sitting at the kitchen table discussing her choices. But for the pre-teens on the couch with mum watching alongside, maybe it’s thought to be too much.

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  20. 7 hours ago, bfm said:

    Is it really that common to postpone sex till marriage? :huh: Here it is considered an orthodox thing, it'd be rather unusual for secular people to do that. My impression is that in the US it is also related to religion or to being conservative or "old-fashioned". 

    Ask as well how many Americans think 6001BCE*  isn’t a thing. But I don’t really know. It’s a whole other country.

    edit: and in Oz  voluntarily postponing sex has been non-dominant since the 70’s, I believe. (Being invited can still be challenging, I understand - s1-3 Howard et al are still relevant :)

    edit 2: sigh * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Era?wprov=sfti1

  21. 1 hour ago, joyceraye said:

    I wouldn't call any of those arrangements standard or classic. Most people are not nor ever have been kings or the serfs of medieval French peasants. That some have deviated from the normal model and still do so doesn't change the way the majority choose to live.

     It seems to me that the invention of reliable methods of controlling fertility have disrupted these traditional models. The effects are still shaking out. It’ll take awhile. There’s a lot of inertia.  The cultures are still working through the new possibilities. TBBT is just a tiny part of the ongoing process. A nano-mirror of the new potentials

    This new technology has profound levelling implications. And the patriarchy (aided by adherence to  tradition) will fight it all the way. It’s a long slow revolution. 

    To me at least, “try before you buy” is sensible. Better to know than not to know?  It looks to be the dominant norm in Oz now. And we all know people were doing that forever anyway, just with greater risks and greater consequences. Still, people have their own beliefs. It’ll be interesting to see where this is at in 2119. Assuming... 

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  22. 6 hours ago, joyceraye said:

    Wasn't she gradually getting him out of his ingrained habits ? She got him to ditch the bathroom schedule very early on in their cohabitation and on their honeymoon insisted their nookie had to have at least the appearance of spontaneity. She'll have to carry on like that.

    When they've got a house  with more rooms and an outside space she'll be able to escape him if he gets too exhausting. I can see her rising to the challenge so long as he doesn't turn out to be an unacceptably damaging father. If he gets so bad she moves out she'll have to let him have sole charge of the kids at least alternate weekends and a month in the summer. She's not going to want to do that. She'll stay a good twenty five or thirty years until the kids have all left home and then if necessary lead more of a separate life but in a way that he doesn't notice.

    It’s possible. She may well be able to tolerate him for a long time. Or forever. I’d hope that she would get more chance to be her own person than we ever saw during the show. But that’s me, and what do I know. 

    Seeing that she said that Leonard going to the bathroom whenever he wanted was “like an an animal” she may like the idea of order and structure to a near similar degree to Sheldon. And if she’s happy with executing deceptions like “schedule the nookie, but don’t tell me that you’ve scheduled it, so I be able to deceive myself that it’s spontaneous, and you can stop bothering me with things that clutter my calendar” , then it’ll be all be great. Her meta-control over Sheldon’s attempts at controlling her may work.  Then  maybe he’ll work out what she’s doing and respond with another added layer of control. It could end up as four dimensional chess between the two of them. They’ll be so happy. :) 

    Anything could happen. She might get assigned a hot post-grad student and suddenly start working late in the lab. Heheh. Who knows.


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  23. 9 hours ago, shell said:

    I just don't see it. I could see Penny leaving him.... 

    Yeah, well. It could play out that way for any of them. I’d think there’d be more stress on the Amy Sheldon deal. Amy has to fight hard for autonomy. Sheldon schedules everything they do to his benefit, from bowel movements to their nookie. Maybe she likes that, maybe it’ll become wearing. It’d be challenging long term.

    But for the moment they are all frozen in amber.  Speculate away.

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