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  1. At this point, I would not even need an ILY - I would be thrilled if Sheldon wants to kiss Amy on his own.

    No prompts, no reminders, no anger, no schedule or RA - just overcome with a desire to take her in his arms and really give her a proper kiss. One that will cause to her react and kiss him back.

    I would love this! Another scenario I've daydreamed about is Sheldon telling Amy matter-of-factly - in lieu of an actual ILY - that he anticipates being with her for a very long time, and maybe for the rest of their lives, and that it's only logical to assume that they will be....that he can't see any other outcome securing their mutual happiness. Maybe he doesn't get too deep into the touchy-feely stuff, but Amy can deduce from his declaration that he's in love with her. And maybe she says that out loud, alone, after he leaves.

    I do believe the finale will be Shamy-centric. Mayim said she doesn't know exactly what the finale will bring for them, so I'm assuming she has at least been told that a new development is ahead.

    Next Tuesday can't come fast enough!!!

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  2. I want this season to end with Sheldon saying ILY to Amy in a traditionally Sheldon way, followed by a kiss that leaves all the others behind.

    As much as I would love this, I have a hunch the writers are not going to make it so easy. They're a bunch of teases and now need to stretch the story out three more seasons, so....

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  3. I'm watching this again and I just noticed Sheldon pulling his arm very carefully out from under the Geology book when he wakes up. WTF does he think it's going to do? Bite him?

    I thought that was brilliant acting on Jim's part and the funniest part of the scene! He treats the Geology book like a sleeping one-night-stand as he extracts his arm, lol. And the look on his face as he does it....perfection.

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  4. I posted this on the Spoilers thread then realized it might be appropriate here as well.

    Here's my response to the Shennies, Sheldon Purists, and other anti-Shamies who may try to harsh our shipping buzz:

    http://www.youtube.c...u4fo?autoplay=1

    Ultimately, no matter what happens in this season's finale, Shamy is meant to be. Let the naysayers say what they may...they are wasting their breath and will be disappointed in the end.

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  5. http://primetime.unrealitytv.co.uk/big-bang-theory-mayim-bialik-explains-sheldon-amys-relationship-developing-unusually/

    "Unfortunately, she doesn’t know whether Sheldon loves Amy as they haven’t discussed “the L-word”. We’re not even sure Sheldon has the capacity to love anything else other than science."

    Do I even have legs anymore because I no longer feel them.

    LOL, I posted a link to the same article over on the Shamy Spoilers Thread. I was struck by the fact that Mayim still doesn't know what the finale will be about...but obviously she's assuming, as we are, that it will be Shamy-related! Come on ILY or Sheldon-y variation of ILY!!!
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  6. I enjoyed the episode, overall. A highlight for me was Sheldon's scene with Howard. He didn't monopolize the conversation (as he has so many times while exchanging stories/problems with Leonard) and he seemed to make a genuine attempt to console his friend. Definitely seeing signs of change/growth, and I like it.

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  7. Just want say that I love this thread! Sometimes I feel a little down after reading through the Shamy Spoilers posts. Then I come here and get my excitement back! I became part of this fandom to have fun and enjoy the camaraderie that comes with sharing an interest/passion with others. I've done my share of over-analyzing, nit-picking and fretting over minutiae, but I'm ready for a little break from that. I'm taking a step back and savoring the remaining spoilers/episodes. And I do believe the writers will deliver. This is "the year of the Shamy," after all! :-D

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  8. THIS. "A connection"? Sheldon and Penny? Since when?!

    This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say I'm annoyed about the inventive use of tell not show here.

    This is:

    A, lip service;

    B, not true;

    C, again, since when? Did I miss something?

    If you're trying to sell Sheldon and Penny as BFFs that have a "connection", try harder TPTB or don't even try. I know the one person Sheldon has a connection, and that's Amy: "Amy is more similar to me than anyone I've ever met", etc.

    Trying to sell Sheldon and Penny as a meeting of similar minds that found and understand each other is not only pushing it, it's simply not true. They have always been at odds, that was the funny thing about them.

    Now I need to go and look at some of their old scenes because this leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.

    EDIT: Ah, how I miss the good old times when they would just mock the Shenny idea altogether and not throw breadcrumbs... I'm sorry, but a fanbase/shipper group (including us) doesn't have to be "kept happy". They chose to believe non-canon, let's not imply things that are not canon just to keep a minority at bay.

    Ok, so I'm not saying the line doesn't irk me...it does...but if we want to be happy as a fandom, we can't worry about how the Shennies are going to interpret the episode. If we do that, we're going to be miserable and frustrated unnecessarily.

    I don't think the average viewer will pay much attention to the line, as it's just one in a list of reasons for Sheldon's comfort level with Penny, not the punch line. And as I said before, the most significant part of the episode -- the part that people will talk about and remember -- is the fact that there's confirmation that Sheldon is supposed to end up with Amy, and Penny fully supports that. She is Sheldon's close friend and she is encouraging him to further his relationship with Amy. THAT is what reviews will be written about.

    THIS. "A connection"? Sheldon and Penny? Since when?!

    This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say I'm annoyed about the inventive use of tell not show here.

    This is:

    A, lip service;

    B, not true;

    C, again, since when? Did I miss something?

    If you're trying to sell Sheldon and Penny as BFFs that have a "connection", try harder TPTB or don't even try. I know the one person Sheldon has a connection, and that's Amy: "Amy is more similar to me than anyone I've ever met", etc.

    Trying to sell Sheldon and Penny as a meeting of similar minds that found and understand each other is not only pushing it, it's simply not true. They have always been at odds, that was the funny thing about them.

    Now I need to go and look at some of their old scenes because this leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.

    EDIT: Ah, how I miss the good old times when they would just mock the Shenny idea altogether and not throw breadcrumbs... I'm sorry, but a fanbase/shipper group (including us) doesn't have to be "kept happy". They chose to believe non-canon, let's not imply things that are not canon just to keep a minority at bay.

    Ok, so I'm not saying the line doesn't irk me...it does...but if we want to be happy as a fandom, we can't worry about how the Shennies are going to interpret the episode. If we do that, we're going to be miserable and frustrated unnecessarily.

    I don't think the average viewer will pay much attention to the line, as it's just one in a list of reasons for Sheldon's comfort level with Penny, not the punch line. And as I said before, the most significant part of the episode -- the part that people will talk about and remember -- is the fact that there's confirmation that Sheldon is supposed to end up with Amy, and Penny fully supports that. She is Sheldon's close friend and she is encouraging him to further his relationship with Amy. THAT is what reviews will be written about.

    Something's wrong with my phone or the site; sorry about the double post above. Can't edit right now.

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  9. The issue is that they had Leonard say that in response to Amy's insecurity. It's like he is saying "I'm sorry you're jealous. But you're not Penny." That is just awful. There has never been talk of a connection between any characters on the show before, it sounds so hippy dippy for a show that hates being sentimental. But now we get it for Sheldon and Penny of all people? This is just bad Shenny fanfic.

    Eta: Also, I agree with Star that it is just a terrible line from someone who is trying to make Amy feel better. And also, why is is that Shamy have to work and sweat tears and blood to move forward an inch so we can finally guess that maybe maybe Sheldon MIGHT tell her he loves he'd but Shenny in one line, with no effort whatsoever, get their relationship glorified on screen even beyond what it is?

    So true; that line is not helping poor Amy. WTH, writers? They MUST be up to something with this...it's such a completely inappropriate reaction to Amy's insecurity. What was the point? Would they really throw that in to appease Shenny shippers? Ugh, I'm going back and forth between thinking TPTB are setting something up and thinking that they're just waaaayy too into glorifying the Shenny relationship. 

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  10. Well, if Leonard said that and isn't bothered by the so-called "special connection", it's nothing to worry about. Do they have a connection? Absolutely. Is it anything more than friendship? Not in the slightest. Does it trump or negate the connection Sheldon has with Amy? No way. I don't think we should read too much into it. 

     

    ETA: True that the Shennies will be all over that. And it is sloppy writing. The writers could have had Leonard encourage Amy and say something like, "but obviously you guys have something special that's very different from what he shares with Penny." IDK why they wrote it this way. Maybe it would have been more difficult to perepetuate Amy's insecurity/vulnerability if Leonard had assuaged her concerns in that scene. I'm really getting the feeling that the final episodes are going to address Amy's recent reactions and behavior. 

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  11. THEY HAVE A CONNECTION!?!? WTF!?!?

    See, I'm sorry but I'm now pissed off too. What the f is this all about? We come on the wake of episodes of massive progress and growth with Shamy where they reach a stage they never had before and we get a line like this which essentially implies that Sheldon and Penny are way ahead of everyone else in their relationship?! Where the hell does this even come from!? Have I been watching the wrong show all these years?! What are the writers trying to pull here? Paying lip-service to Shenny fans?

    Seriously, I was dismissing this episode before but now I'm really annoyed.

     

     

    Am I missing something??? What are you referring to? 

  12. http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s217/the-big-bang-theory/recaps/a562483/the-big-bang-theory-recap-ps4-or-xbox-one.html#~oAIXdtISsDrbDq

     

    "One big moment occurred when Sheldon and Amy kissed once again, following on from their first a few weeks ago. It was great to see that this wasn't a one-off, and that Sheldon appeared to actually enjoy the task, rather than be forced to by Amy, even if the kiss was very PG-13."

     

    From "Digital Spy." PG-13? Really? I don't know about that, but I'm glad that the reviewer agrees that Sheldon "appeared to enjoy the task".  :dancer: 

     

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  13. Not that I'm trying to tell anyone how they should feel or react to the S/P "issue", and Cod knows I have wrestled with my fair share of pessimism, but I really think that we need to try not to let ourselves be deflated by this episode. As Koops and others have pointed out, it's sloppily written and inconsistent with what we've seen recently. But I think that what most people -- including casual viewers -- will come away with is the message that fate/the universe/etc. has determined that Sheldon belongs with Amy in every way possible, and that (very soon) he's going to figure that out for himself. It's presented in a clumsy, on-the-nose fashion, but it's still a point that's clearly made. How anyone could believe that there's lingering potential for a romantic Shenny pairing is beyond me. If that ever happened, even if S & P shared an ambiguous moment or it was hinted at that they had feelings for each other, TPTB would be alienating the majority of their fanbase and destroy all the progress they've made with Shamy AND Lenny in one fell swoop. There would be no going back. They'd be committing series suicide. They won't go there.

     

    ITA with Phanta's comments on why Sheldon might be more "comfortable" with Penny and/or Leonard. Platonic relationships allow for an openness that doesn't always come as easily with a romantic partner. As to why the writers decided to make Amy suddenly insecure and jealous of Penny at this point, I believe they were just looking for a way to make Amy appear vulnerable....and that's going to lead into something in the final episodes. 

     

    I also like Phanta's explanation of Amy's "white lie" to Sheldon. She's obviously very supportive and patient with him in general, but everyone has their limit. We have no idea how many times they discussed his career or how those conversations went. It could be that Sheldon shot down or belittled her suggestions, and in that case, she would understandably need a break at some point. 

     

    IDK. All will be revealed very soon, and I'm savoring these last few weeks of spoilers before the summer hiatus. The writers have done well so far, and I think they know their fanbase better than we sometimes give them credit for. I'm going to trust that they will do right by these characters in the end. 

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  14. just checked out a website..

    ppl are bashing amy so badly...

    i am speechless! r we we even watching the same show?

    What website? Probably overrun by a bunch of Shenny shippers or Sheldon purists. I wouldn't worry about it as I believe the majority of fans like the Shamy and the direction they're headed. Haters gonna hate, right? ;-)

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