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  1. On 4/24/2016 at 9:20 AM, Tonstar17 said:

    Well if that happened, I'm right about 9x21 was just an excuse by tptb to delay and not talk about the living arrangement. Here's lenny still living in 4a in S10.

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    Since the writers have no balls to do the correct thing for Lenny as in letting them as a married couple live by themselves --- I can see Lenny living in 4A all the way up to the last episode of TBBT.  

    S10 will be more of the same for Leonard, Penny, and Lenny.  Just think of the "Groundhog Day" movie as Lenny's life on TBBT and you won't be disappointed. This sad to say but true when it comes to anything Lenny, Leonard, or Penny. 

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  2. 37 minutes ago, luminous said:

    Sigh. The discussion thread is once again a mood killer regarding Lenny. It's really hard to stay positive with all these gloomy predictions for Lenny in the season finale.

    So, I try to cheer up myself with looking at some of my drawings of S9 Lenny scenes. Maybe some of you find it helpful too. :shy:

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    You are so talent and I love looking at you fan art.  :cool:

    As for the gloomy about Lenny well you can thank the writers for that --- as crumbs can only go so far. Lenny has been caught in a serious drought since beginning of S7 for me and I refuse to praise sloppy writing and BBT hasn't done the couple justice in a long time, imo.

    I still love the Lenny and always will, just took off my blinders where the writers are concern. :blind:  Also, please don't get down because some of us aren't happy with the going on of Lenny, if you like what is happening with Lenny then hats off to you and others. The main thing is we all want what is best for our OTP/Lenny.

    Big cyber hugs to you Luminous. :icon_biggrin:

    btw the opinion express in this post is mines and mines alone -- don't want anyone thinking I am speaking for them.

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  3. 3 hours ago, JE7 said:

    Penny's error isn't tactical it's strategic.

    Her main problem (besides her seeming fear of adulthood) is that she hasent adjusted her thinking to match her new reality. She dosent think about things from the pov of a member of a couple, she still thinks from the pov of penny. She thinks of I instead of us.

    The old saying "there is no I in team" fits here or you could say there is no P in team Hofstadter. Untill she is ready to place her marriage and husband ahead of herself at least sometimes the Union will be on shakey ground.

    Hi JE7,

    You hit the nail on the head, here.  Penny is still all about Penny and her wants, needs, etc. So I always end up at the same question I had from the beginning of this season --- Why in the heck did the writers marry off Leonard and Penny since they didn't want to deal with the being married.  The first year of their marriage is being handle the same way their (Lenny) engagement was.  If one did remember Lenny got engaged in S7E23 "The Gorilla Dissolution" most would swear they weren't an engaged couple in S8. Now it's the same with their first year of marriage go off to Vegas in S8E24 to get married, yet they aren't portrayed as a newly married couple, both keeping secrets, one being manipulative, rarely are they show as a couple being happily married.  smh

    Makes one wonder how this season will end or/if there be a major fallout cause something has to change for Leonard, Penny, and Lenny.  They are stuck in this horrible holding pattern and it's OLD and STALE and no reason to continue to invest in the couple or the show, for me.

     

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  4. 8 hours ago, 5Mississippis said:

    Wow. Just wow. 

    For nine seasons we know that there have been Leonard uprisings in the past about his issues with the ridiculousness, absurdity, and injustice of the Roommate Agreement. And his behavior has been to 'just knuckle under', agree to Sheldon's demented rules just to make easier passage of your time in 4A. Leonard made his increasing frustrations clear on multiple occasions. And, not only is Penny aware of Leonard's frustration with this situation, she has called Sheldon crazy far too many times to count, she has also said that his Roommate Agreement rules are stupid (she even got banned from the apartment for breaking three of them -- an entire show was even dedicated to it) and she has encouraged Leonard to break the rules himself. 

    That is the canon we are working from.

    Fast forward to Game of Thrones night.

    We learn from Leonard that quarterly meetings are far too often and that one of the highlighted items that will be debated is which raisin bran Sheldon should buy -- a cereal, by the way, only Sheldon would only be eating. 

    WTF! 

    Other than Sheldon, who seems to need to dedicate a lot of measures and thought into such a decision, why anyone would want to waste their time doing that is beyond me. 

    So Leonard said enough is enough and he wasn't having any part of it. Good for you, Leonard. Stop enabling the crazy man (something Penny herself has said in the past). 

    Enter Penny. 

    Leonard, fully knowing what Penny has said and done in the past, asks for his wife's support. And he gets NONE. Not only does he absolutely NO support from Penny, he (and we in the audience) watch as Penny turns into Sheldon's supportive, card carrying minion in the church of Sheldon's fucking lunacy. 

    'We signed the agreement. We need to support him.'

    WTF! WTF! WTF! 

    Is it REALLY PENNY that is saying THOSE lines?! Absolutely mind boggling. 

    WTF! WTF! WTF! WTF! 

    Why anyone is calling out Leonard for being upset and pissy is beyond me. Given what he knew about how Penny behaved and what she said in past, he had every right to be upset. Leonard's wife -- smart, sassy, put up with no bullshit Penny has officially become Sheldon-ized. 

    WTF!

    But wait -- we're still not done. 

    Leonard finds out later that she is only manipulating Sheldon so she doesn't have to discuss anything with her husband, effectively bypassing Leonard, and making her own amendments to the Roommate Agreement. Yep. So, in effect, we find out that basically Penny does not really care about the Roommate Agreement, she only cares about manipulating Sheldon to get her way, serving her own needs, excluding her husband. What a way to get out of the toilet paper fines. 

    Yep. That's how a loving  and caring wife behaves. 

    The anti-Leonard bias is fantastically huge here because I see comments about Leonard's justifiably upset behavior -- but what about Penny? Has anyone called her out on her very crappy behavior here and being a manipulative self-serving bitch? 

    Other than me, I mean. 

    Where has the real Penny gone? :scratchhead:

    Writers have just about destroyed all the things I loved about Penny in Season 9 and it it's sad for me say this. :dwarf:

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  5. 2 hours ago, Tonstar17 said:

    I think the reason tptb had Penny support Sheldon was another reason to delay talking about or even lenny deciding to move to 4b. If they had Penny support Leonard then they would have had to bring up the living arrangements and lenny probably moved because they are angry at his rules and the RA. Now they don't have to bring it up, guess lenny are stuck in 4a for a while longer. (Great...) and I also don't think this episode (9x21) has anything to do with what will happen in the final. It just another way to delay and an excuse to carry on with the status quo of the living arrangement. Lenny are not moving anytime soon. :(

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    You are probably right, Tonstart17, but the writers didn't do Penny any favors in having her side with Sheldon.  Once again Penny sides with the show's big baby and as usual it's at Leonard expense. 

    As for not having to talk about or deal with supposedly married Lenny still living in 4A, it's still the elephant in the room that they created, even if they don't have the balls to do anything about it. If it is that much of a problem for the writers then here is a solution for them -- let Leonard move to 4B and let Penny and Sheldon stay in 4A as they are the two characters of the big 3 the writers seen to care about. See problem solved. lol

    It's time for the writers to grow a pair!!!

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  6. 2 hours ago, 5Mississippis said:

    Leonard being upset may started with the Roommate Agreement discussions but it was the lack of support from his wife and watching her transform into Sheldon's groupie that made him 'pissy, more pissy, and whiney and then just threw a tantrum' as you say. It had nothing to do with moving or running or leaving to go anywhere else. As a matter of fact, that issue wasn't even brought up in the episode. Penny was not there for him, rather she supported Sheldon and the abusive Roommate Agreement -- which is something she knows Leonard has been complaining about for nine seasons. And even worse, we find out Penny's doing all this for self serving reasons. She doesn't care about the Roommate Agreement, so her 'we signed it … we need to support him' turns out to be bullshit too. 

    Hi 5Miss,

    Penny going behind Leonard back to get changes in the RA (to benefit her) really pissed me off and this is the same Penny that had the nerve to throw a fit over Leonard secret bank account -- I don't know who this Penny is as she has become a mini-Sheldon imo. The more Penny is around Sheldon the less I like her and that is sad because she is my second favorite character of the show.

    I wish Leonard would move over to 4B and leave Penny with her new best friend as she doesn't have her husband Leonard's back when it counts. Who would want to be with either Penny or Sheldon after this. Really disappointed in where the writers have taken Penny since Season 7.

    #FreeLeonard

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