Interesting changes and development from original pilot, Penny / Katie

[SBGrace]

After watching the original, it seemed very dark, the acting was excellent but glad the material was worked on. 

The actor Sheldon and Lenord have great chemistry. 

But Katie would not have been a good occuring character. Maybe a guest star. It seemed like she was an expriment.

The character Penny was definitley a great addition. 

Also the writers are talented and good writers but surely they should of known a female antonganist would probably not being well recieved.

Edited September 18, 2022 by Tensor
Link to the entire unaired pilot is against the rules and has been removed as against forum rules.

[TLW]

I also didn't like Katie. 

Did you feel like the other female character Gilda seemed like a mix of traits that Amy and Raj's girlfriend Lucy had?

[chucky]

2 minutes ago, TLW said:

I also didn't like Katie. 

Did you feel like the other female character Gilda seemed like a mix of traits that Amy and Raj's girlfriend Lucy had?

To be truthful,  I don't even remember Gilda. All  I can remember from that episode is I didn't like Katie either. 

[TLW]

16 hours ago, chucky said:

To be truthful,  I don't even remember Gilda. All  I can remember from that episode is I didn't like Katie either. 

She was a female scientist that worked with this pilot's version of Leonard and Sheldon. She had mannerisms that reminded me of both Amy and Lucy. 

 

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Edited August 19, 2022 by TLW

[chucky]

1 minute ago, TLW said:

She was a female scientist that worked with this pilot's version of Leonard and Sheldon. She had mannerisms that reminded me of both Amy and Lucy. 

 

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So, like the Gilda in a couple of fanfiction stories that I have read. 

[TLW]

1 minute ago, chucky said:

So, like the Gilda in a couple of fanfiction stories that I have read. 

Yes she is mentioned in 123JustAFriend's The Meant To Be Determination and also in a couple of stories by WeBuiltThePyramids. Perhaps Leslie Winkle was meant to be a replacement for her in the actual show. But her personality reminded me more of Amy and/or Lucy.

 

[chucky]

18 minutes ago, TLW said:

Yes she is mentioned in 123JustAFriend's The Meant To Be Determination and also in a couple of stories by WeBuiltThePyramids. Perhaps Leslie Winkle was meant to be a replacement for her in the actual show. But her personality reminded me more of Amy and/or Lucy.

 

True 

[SBGrace]

On 8/19/2022 at 4:40 PM, TLW said:

Yes she is mentioned in 123JustAFriend's The Meant To Be Determination and also in a couple of stories by WeBuiltThePyramids. Perhaps Leslie Winkle was meant to be a replacement for her in the actual show. But her personality reminded me more of Amy and/or Lucy.

 

 

On 8/18/2022 at 11:32 PM, TLW said:

I also didn't like Katie. 

Did you feel like the other female character Gilda seemed like a mix of traits that Amy and Raj's girlfriend Lucy had?

I cannot find the similarities with Lucy. Which traits did you find similar? 

But Amy and Leslie very much so. 

I think that Gilda would have been a pointless audition after the shows female charcater. But nevethless she was a good character.

[Tensor]

On 8/19/2022 at 11:40 AM, TLW said:

 Perhaps Leslie Winkle was meant to be a replacement for her in the actual show. But her personality reminded me more of Amy and/or Lucy.

Leslie Winkle was obviously  modeled on Gilda and Chuck probably saw it as a way to get the character into the actual show.    After the original pilot was rejected, the actress playing Gilda (Iris Bahr) moved to Israel for a couple of years before returning to the US to continue her acting career.   So using 

Several bits and pieces from the original pilot made it into the regular show.  Besides parts of Gilda, Leonard coming out with the lightsaber after hearing a noise, when Sheldon went over to Penny's at night, in The Big Bran Hypothesis is one.  It's almost an exact copy of him coming out upon hearing a noise in the unaired pilot. 

[chucky]

4 hours ago, Tensor said:

Leslie Winkle was obviously  modeled on Gilda and Chuck probably saw it as a way to get the character into the actual show.    After the original pilot was rejected, the actress playing Gilda (Iris Bahr) moved to Israel for a couple of years before returning to the US to continue her acting career.   So using 

Several bits and pieces from the original pilot made it into the regular show.  Besides parts of Gilda, Leonard coming out with the lightsaber after hearing a noise, when Sheldon went over to Penny's at night, in The Big Bran Hypothesis is one.  It's almost an exact copy of him coming out upon hearing a noise in the unaired pilot. 

I thought there was something familiar with that scene. 

[TLW]

On 9/17/2022 at 8:24 PM, SBGrace said:

 

I cannot find the similarities with Lucy. Which traits did you find similar? 

But Amy and Leslie very much so. 

I think that Gilda would have been a pointless audition after the shows female charcater. But nevethless she was a good character.

Something about the way she talked reminded me of Lucy. I'm sorry I can't describe it better than that.

[chucky]

7 hours ago, TLW said:

Something about the way she talked reminded me of Lucy. I'm sorry I can't describe it better than that.

Very interesting. I never thought of that. You could be right. 

[Miss Kitka]

I wasn't entirely sure about Katie either. 

[chucky]

1 hour ago, Miss Kitka said:

I wasn't entirely sure about Katie either. 

I agree, but then I didn't care too much for Katie either. I'm so glad Kaley got the character of Penny. She was such an improvement over Katie.