cbolt Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Well I agree that penny might not be leonard's dream girl anymore with the way they've written her, they need for her to have a life outside the apt. and the guys and they've yet to do that and it's season 5 trust me a pretty girl like that is definetly going to have a life outside if them, I agree you're not suppose to date your friends ex it can been done though but they took to a different level even though nothing happen but Leonard thinks something did, I was just trying to say she could date whoever she wanted, the bigger trust factor would be from her I don't think he's the one nice guy that she's was willing to try of the line of jerks, when he wanted to cheat on priya and didn't feel guilty about it, they need to can l/p forever and never put them back because he thinks she hooked up with raj and he was willingly to cheat on his girlfriend how can they put them together after that and why would the get together after that it wouldn't be the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ofN Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 ... plus I heard prady say he's putting relationships on the back burner I remember that quote too. I think Prady has shown that he was talking out of his ass. Unfortunately the show has been about nothing but relationships (bad ones too) since about half way through season 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I agree, maybe he meant that that season 5 focus wouldn't be about relationships, don't remember the date of the interview I assume it was after season 4, even though last episode was about a girl comic book artist that tests Leonard and priya's relationship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ofN Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I agree, maybe he meant that that season 5 focus wouldn't be about relationships, don't remember the date of the interview I assume it was after season 4, even though last episode was about a girl comic book artist that tests Leonard and priya's relationship His comment was made during the summer, at or around the time of comic con - before they started taping this season. So we are about 1/3 of the way through the season so far. I wonder when they will stop making everything about relationships? The other notable comment from Prady was that they were going to resolve the Raj / Penny sex thing in a way that would satisfy everyone regardless of which side of the fence you were on. Another hit directly off the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Well they didn't resolve the raj/penny regardless of what side you were on, that's was poorly handled and it was resolved but not the right way, if you where upset at it you weren't happy that they almost did it and if you were kind of hoping that they did get together then you where kind of teased with it. I thought the whole penny/leonard relationship was that she was his only shot at a hot girl, now he got priya and Alice the comic book girl not sure how she's his dream girl when he's getting these girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ofN Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Yeah. I'm really not sure where they are going with the characters. It seems that they are taking them in all kinds of odd directions compaired to where they started. They seem to be moving the characters further toward something I find hard to express - more the reality show crowd where people lie and fool around with each other and are just basically dishonorable or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBallOfFur Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I think it was the best Bazzinga yet! I also have no problem with Leonard after this episode nor do I think that Penny would not trust him after this. There is nothing wrong with him feeling temptation, he is a human. And it is understandable that he may fantasize being that great guy with lots of women. The thing is that when he went for it, he realized that in reality it isn't him and he can't do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imapotato Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Funny episode, but biggest ??? for me How would Howard know to setup the fake syringe? Leonard texting him seems a bit far fetched, as it is shown he is not sure what Sheldon is doing, much less who it is for... Other than that...Leonard getting women left and right...ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverman Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Am I the only one who thinks that the whole Alice gambit was masterminded by Sheldon (maybe in league with Priya?) with the balloon and buzzer just being red herrings to allay suspiscion? What is the chance that someone would hook up in a comic book store? If Sheldon is a genius, then it wouldn't be a stretch for him to plan it. Re NJ and Texas - I lived in Bloomfield NJ, 1 block north of Newark's north ward with it's Italian 'social clubs', and am in Beaumont Texas now. It is much less scarier down here. Haven't had my tires slashed down here for parking in front of the wrong house. Off subject, regarding 'Godfather's Pizza' - why would you name your company after a group of murdering, drug dealing, extortionists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsayz Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 i think it was definitely the best bazinga ever "BAZINGA PUNK, NOW WE'RE EVEN" quote of the whole entire season and about Howard knowing the, take into account that Sheldon did announce that he is going to get back at everyone so im sure they were being prepared Leonard could've have txted/called raj and howard about it and whoever sheldon shows up to, they are prepared Just because Leonard didn't get girls back then, doesn't mean he can't get them now maybe his pheromones finally matured and now attracting other women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Well Leonard could get a girl before the seriesand all of sudden he is not realistic, there's a difference between temptation and acting out it would've been different if he just asked penny for advice it seemed he already had his mind made up and was looking to see if penny would agree with what he's doing is right, do I think Leonard would cheat on penny probably not but don't tell me that penny's view on Leonard hasn't changed a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviodingtherealworld Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Well Leonard could get a girl before the seriesand all of sudden he is not realistic, there's a difference between temptation and acting out it would've been different if he just asked penny for advice it seemed he already had his mind made up and was looking to see if penny would agree with what he's doing is right, do I think Leonard would cheat on penny probably not but don't tell me that penny's view on Leonard hasn't changed a little You know, I'm going agree with you on this part. I think that Leonard just wanted Penny to agree so his mind could be at ease with the decision he had already made. Her mind my not be too much changed about Leonard because she will factor in that Pryia was across the world and Leonard was alone. Although if she and Leonard do get back together, she will have to worry about going on trips that take too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayelrob Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Waylerob, I doubt the part about Kayley since she just got engaged and they filmed the episode a couple weeks before that, I doubt she has that kind of influence and even if she did they're not going to write story based on the actors or their partners okay with it or not, plus most of the actors or actresses that kiss on screen are in some kind of relationship and they don't let that get in the way of the show, not sure how they can get l/p together when he wanted to cheat he's not the same guy she dated, plus I heard prady say he's putting relationships on the back burner Not sure about the part where Leonard not trusting penny since they weren't together and she can get with who she wants, more like why would she trust him Here we go again. She did one of his best friends in his bed. That would have been okey doke with you if you were Leonard? ... plus I heard prady say he's putting relationships on the back burner I remember that quote too. I think Prady has shown that he was talking out of his ass. Unfortunately the show has been about nothing but relationships (bad ones too) since about half way through season 4. That would be if there was a plan. Molaro says they write each episode on its own merits. That of course explains the little attention they pay to continuity. Well they didn't resolve the raj/penny regardless of what side you were on, that's was poorly handled and it was resolved but not the right way, if you where upset at it you weren't happy that they almost did it and if you were kind of hoping that they did get together then you where kind of teased with it. I thought the whole penny/leonard relationship was that she was his only shot at a hot girl, now he got priya and Alice the comic book girl not sure how she's his dream girl when he's getting these girls Leonard was a lot funnier when he had no hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Not that wouldn't been okay if I was Leonard, but penny is free to date or hook up with whoever she wants he didn't call dibs on her, plus she wasn't the one that wanted to cheat on his girlfriend considering how she feels in towards infidelity not sure she could trust him completly if they ever got together again like she did when they dated, agree he was funnier and nicer when he had no hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ofN Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 That would be if there was a plan. Molaro says they write each episode on its own merits. That of course explains the little attention they pay to continuity. Ah, I see. So it is more like sketch comedy. Like Saturday night live where the actors could play any character at all each week. It all makes sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imapotato Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Well 4ofN Molaro did bring his sketch comedy writer pals from Teen Nick... they were involced in the Amanda show, Drak and Josh, All That...many are sketch comedy shows for kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 LOL LOL some people reaaaly take this show far too seriously. Again, it was a good episode, but things these days are a far cry from seasons 1 and 2. But still, the show has maintained its star cast and is still pulling ratings, so dont see the point in moaning about the finer details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threelions Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Not that wouldn't been okay if I was Leonard, but penny is free to date or hook up with whoever she wants he didn't call dibs on her, plus she wasn't the one that wanted to cheat on his girlfriend considering how she feels in towards infidelity not sure she could trust him completly if they ever got together again like she did when they dated, agree he was funnier and nicer when he had no hope He actually did call dibs on her in the episode where they take the train to a lecture. Howard makes a remark about him and Raj being able to hit on Penny and Leonard says no. He also makes it clear he wasn't happy she got a lift with Bernadettes ex. His friends knew how he felt, Penny dumped him and knew he loved her, whatever the rights and wrongs they both betrayed him and he would not be talking to them now in any of the multiverses. You can say whatever you want about Penny being able to date whoever she wants but it never works that way in real life. Hence people not being happy about the characters doing it or the way they reacted or didn't react to it. That's without mentioning it was completely out of character and was crowbarred in for shock value. Also Penny gave him the go ahead to steal Howard's one night stand because she didn't like him(at least at the time). She's not a fan of Pryia so on past evidence she would encourage him to cheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 You don't call dibs on people and if she was interested in someone else and him then too bad for Leonard and plus if he called dibs he had no right since there was no reason to make that claim, and remember she went to sheldon's board and flirted with him if Sheldon was normal it would be a different story, when did Howard have a one night stand. Sorry but saying you're from new jersey doesn't have the same ring as saying you're from Texas If it's okay for Leonard to steal Stephanie from Howard, then it's okay if one of the guys dated penny because it's the same thing and the old rule what comes around goes around and if Leonard threw a hissy fit then he's a big ol hyprocritie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayelrob Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 You don't call dibs on people and if she was interested in someone else and him then too bad for Leonard and plus if he called dibs he had no right since there was no reason to make that claim, and remember she went to sheldon's board and flirted with him if Sheldon was normal it would be a different story, when did Howard have a one night stand. Sorry but saying you're from new jersey doesn't have the same ring as saying you're from Texas If it's okay for Leonard to steal Stephanie from Howard, then it's okay if one of the guys dated penny because it's the same thing and the old rule what comes around goes around and if Leonard threw a hissy fit then he's a big ol hyprocritie Stephanie never dated Howard. They met in a bar and she left with him because he told her she could drive a car on mars. Howard only had a relationship with her in his mind. Leonard and Penny were set as star crossed lovers and the central theme of the show in episode 1x01. For me that is still the show. Raj and Penny hooking up was a purposeful insult from Chuck Lorre to the fans. As it has been said, it was not only wrong but out of character. When Lorre brought the idea to Molaro, he pulled a face and said, "Really?" and Lorre replied, "Oh we have to do it now." He was in mid feud with Charlie Sheen and wanted to piss people off. Enough of us were pissed off, hence the bullshit reversal in 5x01. For some of us that is still a serious let down. That would be if there was a plan. Molaro says they write each episode on its own merits. That of course explains the little attention they pay to continuity. Ah, I see. So it is more like sketch comedy. Like Saturday night live where the actors could play any character at all each week. It all makes sense now. Remember Amy thinking she had made Leonard fall in love with her and would have to let him down. Sheldon karate chopping Leonard and saying, "she isn't for you?" What happened to that plot line. It's like it never happened and has nothing to do with the main back story. Doesn't it? Remember Amy thinking she made Leonard fall in love with him and would have to let him down. Sheldon karate chopping Leonard and saying, "she isn't for you?" What happened to that plot line? It's like it never happened and had nothing to do with the main back story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Sorry it doesn't work that way because he did steal her from Howard maybe he didn't date or go out with her but he asked penny if it's okay so yes he did and he felt bad about it, even if he saw her first if she wasn't interested then he defintely has no right to call dibs then only thing I agree on is you're not suppose to do is date a friends ex doesn't mean you can't just you're not suppose to, if you're writers reaction is that then maybe you shouldn't go that route because the fans sure will be worse, stars crossed lovers you make it sound like they'd be together if she didn't move across the hall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsayz Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Leonard didn't steal Stephanie from Howard. They just met at a bar. In Howard's mind he think he was in a relationship or rather he just wanted her for sex Stephanie wasn't going to give in to Howard. The BIG DIFFERENCE that you compared if it was the SAME THING is that Penny and Leonard were actually in a relationship with sex. Raj went to have "sex" with Penny. Yes, Penny is single and have the rights to sleep and date whoever she wants. if she wants to be a whore, then we can't do anything. Raj should've known better not to do that. Hence, the reaction on 5x01 when even HOWARD was like HOW CAN YOU DO THAT? and Raj actually remember what he was doing while Penny had no clue. and back to 1x01. Penny was NOT flirting with Sheldon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Maybe you need to watch the pilot again, so it's okay for Leonard to steal Stephanie from Howard and yes that was a date if it wasn't then Leonard wouldn't felt guilty or date raj's sister when he made a pact with raj and Howard, maybe raj slept with penny to get back at Leonard wouldn't blamed there, agree that penny/raj was out of charcter it would've been one thing if previous episodes lead up to that but of course raj can't talk to her sober so it wouldn't made since, plus I really doubt raj/penny hookes up because Lorre was mad at Charlie sheen I would like to think he can seperate one show from the next that would make any scense, if l/p ever got back together he would forget about her and raj not sure how penny wouldn't have him wanting to cheat on priya in the back of her mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsayz Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Maybe you need to watch the pilot again, i saw all the seasons at least 6-7 times so it's okay for Leonard to steal Stephanie from Howard and yes that was a date if it wasn't then Leonard wouldn't felt guilty or date raj's sister when he made a pact with raj and Howard, he felt guilty because Howard was thinking he was in a relationship when he really wasn't it was Howard and Leonard that made the "pact" aka "pinky swear". Raj wasn't involved thats why he asked if they pinky sweared. maybe raj slept with penny to get back at Leonard wouldn't blamed there, you wouldn't blame Raj for that? the difference is that Penny isn't Leonard's SISTER, it was his LOVER Raj made a comment that he will have his way with his sister, he didn't say i will have his way with Penny to bring shame to his family If you really feel that Raj shouldn't be blamed for his action, I am not sure how your friends would feel if you were to sleep with one of there ex-gfs/wives you are basically saying you would be okay if your best-friend slept with your ex-lover because your ex-lover have the rights to do so and NO ONE should sympathize for you because they can't "blame" anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Didn't raj say hands off my sister when priya made her first apperance I believe so, I get the feeling that there's a double standard for Leonard it's okay to have Stephanie I know Howard thought he was dating her but Leonard just took her from him even if she wasn't interested but he picked her up at a club and let her drive the mars rover and Leonard just got her, you don't date someone that you're friend likes but if one of the guys had dated penny before Leonard had the chance he would be mad, you don't date raj's sister when he said in the cafetria hands off, and what would hurt Leonard the same way he betrayed raj- penny I'm not saying that was in his mind since nothing happened and raj doesn't think like that was just throwing that out there. Well maybe you need to watch the pilot 6-7 more times, penny went to sheldon's board called him a beautiful mind genius guy and smiled at him and then later sat in his spot and he said that's my spot she patted the spot beside him and tittled her head and said why don't you sit next to me if that's not flirting I don't know what is because that was obivious flirting And raj was just saying that because then Leonard would know the hurt he felt The 5.01 episode is what you call a backpedal or in the media backtracking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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