Aviodingtherealworld Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 @avoiding but Alicia being around the guys does then since penny hadn't been around guys like that it's the same, Not really Alice and Penny are very different and Alice was flirting with Loenard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 You're really going to compare Leslie please. I'm just saying it's okay when Leonard acts like a jerk but if the guys act like a jerk towards him it's not, but Leonard can sleep with whoever but not the rest of the guys ala Stephanie Now back to my orginal post not sure penny can fully trust Leonard, in her mind he's just like all the guys she dated, of course the minute she wants him back and tells him she still has feelings for him Leonard will come running, if penny ever got a movie role that required her to leave for a few weeks not sure how much she would trust him it would be in the back of her mind but not like before And yes Leonard is turning into a jerk compare him to season 1-2 and now yes Let's not act like Leonard is this loyal friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsayz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 You're really going to compare Leslie please. how come i can't compare Leslie? Leonard slept with Stephanie (actually dated) and according to you, Howard was interested in Stephanie Howard slept with Leslie...Leonard slept with her first Howard didn't want to mention it until Leslie made the back scratching metaphor i brought up a relevant argument and now it's not okay with you because it makes a solid point? 'm just saying it's okay when Leonard acts like a jerk but if the guys act like a jerk towards him it's not, but Leonard can sleep with whoever but not the rest of the guys ala Stephanie WHEN DID HE ACTED LIKE A JERK? you keep giving these broad statements. If you keep talking about Stephanie, SHE WASN'T INTERESTED IN HOWARD and it was just a girl he picked up at the bar for a few hours? and howard just kept thinking he was dating her when reality it wasn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ofN Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Now now now. If you boys are going to start talking in capital letters, I'm going to have to ask you to step outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Well for one according to you Simon you're not suppose to date a guys crush or ex, which Leonard did so what goes around comes around, now for Leslie he wasn't exactly crushed when things ended with Leslie they just wanted sex from one another, of course penny the same way at first but penny coukdve been any girl and he'd be interested not saying he wasn't I love with her, he was in love with penny the pretty girl, not the whole penny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threelions Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Well for one according to you Simon you're not suppose to date a guys crush or ex, which Leonard did so what goes around comes around, now for Leslie he wasn't exactly crushed when things ended with Leslie they just wanted sex from one another, of course penny the same way at first but penny coukdve been any girl and he'd be interested not saying he wasn't I love with her, he was in love with penny the pretty girl, not the whole penny Stephanie and Howard never even dated. He picked her up in a bar by telling her she could drive a car on Mars. They never even went on a casual date, there was no relationship in anyway. She even says she wasn't interested in him in anyway she only wanted to drive the Mars Rover. You cannot in anyway shape or form compare that to Leonard and Penny. Even Leslie and Leonard actually dated. Stephanie and Howard never existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disgusted Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 The sound and the fury... This is why some have lamented the loss of the "geeky storytelling" of the first 2 seasons. All this relationship stuff taking center stage is just crap, IMNSHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsayz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 im only doing capitals, because im trying to emphasize those. Stephanie and Howard never even dated. He picked her up in a bar by telling her she could drive a car on Mars. They never even went on a casual date, there was no relationship in anyway. She even says she wasn't interested in him in anyway she only wanted to drive the Mars Rover. You cannot in anyway shape or form compare that to Leonard and Penny. Even Leslie and Leonard actually dated. Stephanie and Howard never existed. the thing is cbolt doesn't understand that. he keeps thinking Howard picked Stephanie up at the bar is considering a relationship so therefore when Leonard started seeing her, cbolt thinks Leonard is a jerk for being with her. and he is comparing that situation to the raj and penny heres the analogy that cbolt is seeing raj = leonard penny = stephanie leonard betraying howard is like raj betraying leonard we think that stephanie and leonard is okay, so he just thinks that raj/penny is okay too then to top it off, he thinks theres a double standard for leonard as where we are looking at. in actuality there is no double standard he keeps saying Leonard isn't the best loyal friend and keeps acting like a jerk to his guy friends, but he always fail to bring up those situations when i asked and he just skips over it..or rather he think he is bringing up the situation, but it is always the same one with Stephanie and Leonard (him being the jerk) as the saying from Sheldon "it's like talking to a chimp" The sound and the fury... This is why some have lamented the loss of the "geeky storytelling" of the first 2 seasons. All this relationship stuff taking center stage is just crap, IMNSHO. well i understand that relationship is the center stage. but there are a lot of geeky things lol just that theres no debating on those geeky things since we all agree to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Well let's see Leonard artic anyone I don't need anymore examples after that which I could provide, so if one of the guys got with penny before Leonard even though he hadn't dated her, plus once you leave with a girl from a bar that's off limits to your friends @ disguested it was only a matter of time before they had relationships I just didn't think they'd focus this much on it, of course if there was no relationships it'd just be 4 geeks and a hot blonde neighboor who ate Thai food all day that debated comic book heroes or star trek all day, of course the show has lost it's edge it's still good just not like it could be or what season 1-2 was which is why I liked season 1-2 because the quality of the show was better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsayz Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 plus once you leave with a girl from a bar that's off limits to your friends yeah but the thing is howard told leonard to bring her home cuz he missed up the mars rover..stephanie wasn't going to see him again, we can safely assume that, since she didn't have interested in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayelrob Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Simon made you need glasses or you just want to see things the way you want too see them, his spot had nothing to do with anything yo her she was flirting with Sheldon if it was any heavier she would had jump his bones, she wanted him to sit by him, maybe you need to watch a flirting video on you tube or get glasses I'm with simonsayz - that wasn't flirting. That was just normal friendly chatting. Guys, what Penny did is what pretty girls the world over do to control the situation. Sheldon wanted her to move, she used her feminine wiles to divert him from that notion. Unfortunately Sheldon isn't normal and it didn't work. It worked on Leonard though since he diverted Sheldon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netmouse Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 @cbolt: trying to argue with simon is like trying to chase your shadow... he's always one step ahead of you. Simon is one of 3 members on this site that can really hold his end of a discussion. He's pretty impressive when it comes to putting a point across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 @waylerob that's kind of flirting, @ netmouse especially when he's wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviodingtherealworld Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 @waylerob that's kind of flirting, @ netmouse especially when he's wrong especially when he knows what he is saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsayz Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 @cbolt: trying to argue with simon is like trying to chase your shadow... he's always one step ahead of you. Simon is one of 3 members on this site that can really hold his end of a discussion. He's pretty impressive when it comes to putting a point across. thank you netmouse, i laughed when you said about the shadow part @waylerob that's kind of flirting, @ netmouse especially when he's wrong you haven't provided any backups to prove me wrong and when i ask you for situations, you can only provide one and when you do, i debunked it. especially when he knows what he is saying thank you avioding, i try my best to do the research with logic behind everything i say when it comes down to debating i don't think theres anymore point into debating with cbolt, he seems to just be stuck in his own little world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I've proved you with my own eyes I don't know what more prove do you need and I've proved to you that Leonard has been a bad friend at times, you just want to be right even when you're wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threelions Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I've proved you with my own eyes I don't know what more prove do you need and I've proved to you that Leonard has been a bad friend at times, you just want to be right even when you're wrong Pot, Kettle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsayz Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I've proved you with my own eyes that's not called proving..i can say the samething i proved to you with my own eyes, why can't you see it? I don't know what more prove do you need and I've proved to you that Leonard has been a bad friend at times, you just want to be right even when you're wrong you didn't prove to me that leonard has been a bad friend at times you only spoke about Stephanie and Howard for that 1 time. you couldn't think of any other situations and you keep saying at times I and along with other members have debunked that i don't want to be right, i am right cuz you are wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 The artic is a great example but I don't need anymore after that but yeah what Leonard did to Howard was an example,plus Leonard only feels he needs to be a good friend when it suits him or benefits him, he was a great guy season 1-2 but since then they had him being a jekyll and Hyde guy you can't prove flirting just like you can't pro love or any emotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netmouse Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 i try my best to do the research with logic behind everything i say when it comes down to debating ^ this @simon: "Arguing with simon is like looking into the sun... you just shouldn't do it" Was my 2nd choice :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsayz Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 i try my best to do the research with logic behind everything i say when it comes down to debating ^ this @simon: "Arguing with simon is like looking into the sun... you just shouldn't do it" Was my 2nd choice :D LOL good one The artic is a great example but I don't need anymore after that but yeah what Leonard did to Howard was an example,plus Leonard only feels he needs to be a good friend when it suits him or benefits him, he was a great guy season 1-2 but since then they had him being a jekyll and Hyde guy you can't prove flirting just like you can't pro love or any emotion actually you can prove flirting, you simply ask the person if it was flirting, provided that person gives you an honest answer love is emotions, and i got one word for you psychology artic is a great example? here is my take on it and if other people besides you disagrees with me, then i'll admit im wrong Leonard wasn't the only one who did wrong to Sheldon, Howard and Raj all agree to do what they did because Sheldon was being imbearable. I don't see you calling Sheldon a jerk in that situation. We all know Sheldon's personality and we don't blame them for what they did. Yes we felt bad that Sheldon got fed with false data, but being stuck in a shack in the artic with no other people around and Sheldon being a "dic"tator and you don't "need" to provide anymore because you think the artic is a great example when actuality is that all of them were being jerks. I mean can you blame Leonard that much considering Penny finally wanting to be with Leonard after being in the artic for 3 months and before that he was crazy about her? and you have to remember to be in Leo's position, a nerd/geek getting a shot with a hot blonde..any nerd/geek getting that chance will take it and not care about anything else don't categorize only Leonard being a jerk in that episode. that isn't a "great" example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviodingtherealworld Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 actually you can prove flirting, you simply ask the person if it was flirting, provided that person gives you an honest answer love is emotions, and i got one word for you psychology artic is a great example? here is my take on it and if other people besides you disagrees with me, then i'll admit im wrong Leonard wasn't the only one who did wrong to Sheldon, Howard and Raj all agree to do what they did because Sheldon was being imbearable. I don't see you calling Sheldon a jerk in that situation. We all know Sheldon's personality and we don't blame them for what they did. Yes we felt bad that Sheldon got fed with false data, but being stuck in a shack in the artic with no other people around and Sheldon being a "dic"tator and you don't "need" to provide anymore because you think the artic is a great example when actuality is that all of them were being jerks. I mean can you blame Leonard that much considering Penny finally wanting to be with Leonard after being in the artic for 3 months and before that he was crazy about her? and you have to remember to be in Leo's position, a nerd/geek getting a shot with a hot blonde..any nerd/geek getting that chance will take it and not care about anything else don't categorize only Leonard being a jerk in that episode. that isn't a "great" example Nope agreed. That's my take too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 "Arctic" and the middle c is pronounced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbolt Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 You just proved my point about flirting who says they'll be honest and no you can't prove love there's no evidence or scientific it's just emotion, as for the artic that was leonard's idea he was the ring leader did they really think he'd be different he wasn't the one that messed with someone's work for a quick laugh, plus raj and Howard at least acted sorry Leonard coukdve gave a damn. How about when Sheldon is sick he doesn't see if he's just has the common cold or it might be something else, I'm just saying that at times leonard acts like a friend but at times only when it suits him, and for one if I was crazy about someone lke penny I wouldn't have went and I sure as heck wouldn't betrayed my best friend like that and then not cared because then it looks bad on my part to her and maybe she thinks that she had me wrong, I not saying Leonard is a jerk but he acts or is turning into one (wanting to cheat on his gf) especially if you compare to season 1-2 and for penny using her womanly whiles to get Sheldon to let her sit in his spot that's considered flirting she's using that to her advantage to get what she wants even if she's not interested, Plus Sheldon didn't make them come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsayz Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 "Arctic" and the middle c is pronounced. thanks LOL Arctic, i kept reading on cbolt's spelling such as spelling "obviously" wrong i knew something was missing cbolt, i know you have all the time in your hands but all the stuff you say im not going to debunked them anymore because it is pointless, not because im wrong..it's b/c you seem to always just overlook what i've said. you don't think about what i wrote..instead as you just ramble with your thoughts i give the whole rebuttal about the jerk situation and you just brush it off with "a quick laugh" and then bring Sheldon's sickness in this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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