PENNY AND SHELDON MAYBE?

[koops]

hahah you guys are a riot, I'm loving all the *holds up sign* sarcasm.

Btw, has anybody noticed someone named Georgiawest or something on Youtube? She (I think) keeps commenting on EVERY SINGLE video that has Amy, Sheldon or the Shamy, on how poor Sheldon isn't really attracted to her, doesn't love her, how boring she is and how they have no chemistry.

Plus, it's really easy to spot Shenny trolls, all you have to do when there's a suspicious comment that seems to be carefully written as being diplomatic is click on their name and there comes the list of Shenny videos they've been favoring or commenting on. lol. so subtle.

[Moonbase]

I was on another video and this girls was arguing that Penny kissed him on the lips. THAT'S how crazy some of them are. LOL. It's like, really? Explain the lipstick on his nose, dumbass. LOL.

Monique

The very first kiss did look like she had kissed him on the lips (I freaked) and then the next shot shows the lipstick. But still I wonder if this was thrown in for the shennys benefit.

[rubyanjel]

Yeah, spook. Trolls. It's easy to spot them, just set the perfect bait.

[MilkMan]

I love both of these characters. Sheldon has been basically placed in the "just a friend" category by Penny. Not by coming right out and saying it, but in dialouge and scenes between the two characters.

I think a dating relationship and even a one night stand would be a mistake. I think their relationship should always be the love/annoy/friend that the writers have established.

Not to say that it wouldn't be fun to have an infrequent dream sequence in which the two shared a kiss for instance.

[Doug]

great to see you back Doug; hmm true, she looked sloppy last season. But it's her make-up that's very unflattering this season.

I'm dying to know what do you think about Amy & the direction they're taking her?

Amy’s behavior in The Habitation Configuration was appalling.

It fits right in with her attitude during Halloween.

She seems to hold Sheldon’s hobbies in contempt.

Amy should apologize to both Wil and Levar but I doubt anyone will ever call her on it.

Not sure how this constitutes a new direction.

[annieogly]

Amy’s behavior in The Habitation Configuration was appalling.

It fits right in with her attitude during Halloween.

She seems to hold Sheldon’s hobbies in contempt.

Amy should apologize to both Wil and Levar but I doubt anyone will ever call her on it.

Not sure how this constitutes a new direction.

Bother, I read the spoilers, sorry, this Thursday's episode and another one. It's more bossy, kinky Amy, unless they think Sheldon needs someone like this. I just don't see where they are taking this couple.

Edited November 18, 2012 by annieogly

[Ayebee]

True i guess. But i can at least admit when my ship isnt end game. I mean the creators have told them Shenny is never going to happen. haha. And it's like they don't hear it.

Who's that on your avatar, Slicknickshady? Smokin'!

[Ayebee]

I'm just curious... Are there people out there/here who actually believes that Sheldon and Penny getting together is a possibility? Not even in a different parallell universe will that ever be a slight possibility, even if there were 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 of the universes.

[bigbangsheldon]

yes there are people out there

[Slicknickshady]

Yes Ayebee, did you check the thread i linked? Yes, there legit people who think like that. They think Kaley is a secret Shenny shipper. They ignore the fact Kaley is quoted as saying she thinks something is wrong with people who ship Shenny. And all her pro Lenny comments are just her hiding that fact. lol. They ignore what the creators say with "well of course they will say that" crap.

The girl in my icon is Vanessa Morgan. She is flawless. I love her. haha

also, another hilarious posting from that LJ.

decembertwistI agree the show was working when it was built around the sheldon-penny-leonard triangle.

When was this? This was never a triangle. haha.

Edited November 18, 2012 by Slicknickshady

[HowWeDoItInTheShire]

I'm just curious... Are there people out there/here who actually believes that Sheldon and Penny getting together is a possibility?

Yes, the internet is full of delusional people. Penny and Sheldon only work as friends. They would never put up with each other romantically.

Amy is the only one for Sheldon. Like her or hate her but she is the one for him. No one has got through to Sheldon like Amy.

Leonard and Penny work and they have great chemistry. They are what the other one is missing. They were drawn to each other from the very beginning.

[Lissie]

When the show started, Penny was an outside observer of the two nerds across the hall and their two friends, She was both mystified and amused about their strange world, she had her own friends and activities that were so different from this nerd life.

On the very first show, she captivated one of the nerds, Leonard, who fell hopeless in love with her. She needed help and asked Leonard to first allow her to use his shower and to get her TV from her brutish boyfriend. Over the objections of Sheldon, Leonard agreed to both request. From that day on we saw Leonard start building "Pennyworld".

Pennyworld started out as a bridge between Penny's life and the nerds the purpose being to make her want to stay around Leonard. The incentive for Penny was first free stuff, Food, WiFi, tech help, etc. There was also added emotional support and constant ego stroking. In the real world, Penny is a loser who has succeeded at nothing and treated as a disposable bimbo by any man of means. In Pennyworld, she is Queen as she has been called several times over the years, including in the last episode. She has a loving consort and ladies of her court. The only person not treating her as the Queen is Sheldon, who constantly reminds her of her actual status in life.

Penny has become so spoiled by Pennyworld she makes these odd statements, like Leonard's job is to make her happy and her job is to let him do so. Or becomes exasperated that she knows that Leonard will be supportive, happy and proud that she took a college class. Even Amy found that weird.

Penny seems to be only semi aware of her life in this bubble but she knows she likes it. When she broke up with Leonard at the end of season three she realized that life without being completely in Pennyworld (oddly, she never was all the way out) was painful. She could not stand to see Leonard treat Priya with such respect especially since Priya seemed more deserving.

The biggest reason Penny will not break up with Leonard again is that her ladies of her court are pointing out this season how amazingly fortunate her circumstance is. She has earned none of these privileges on her own and she rewards the builder of her happiness with sex when she is especially pleased. No way Penny is leaving her little Queendom because she is not going to get this from anyone else but Leonard.

You wrote what I had in my mind. Thanks

Edited November 19, 2012 by Lissie

[rickfromillinois]

There was something wrong with Leonard wanting to hear Penny saying that she loved him? Really? I cannot begin to comprehend how this is somehow a flaw on Leonard's part. Would it have been better if he acted as though all she had said to him was "hello"? Frankly that criticism and for that matter most of the others is rediculous.

I don't think that Alex falling for Leonard is going to end up with Penny and Leonard breaking up. It might be an indicator of a possible break up if Leonard returned her attraction, but he is totally clueless. He has no idea that Alex has feelings for him. I think it is more likely that Penny will get jealous, Leonard will think that she is over reacting, and then realize that she was right. I think that will be the end of it. I would be very surprised if Penny and Leonard ever break up again. There will be fights or disagreements, but I do not believe that they will actually break up.

[Slicknickshady]

Yep Rick, that's why it's telling what take the powers that be took. If they used the other take, it would have been clear that Leonard figured out Alex is attraction. But the take they choose proves Leonard still has no clue Alex is into him. That's a big sign that nothing is going to come out of this Alex thing.

I love Alex. And while it's because likely Margo Harshman is one of my favorite actresses of all time. Heck, she's way about Kaley Cuoco on my list... I do think Alex is adorable and right now how they are portraying Alex i have no problem with. They are not making her a homewrecker yet. She just has a crush on Leonard. She isnt trying to Sabotage lenny.

[Frieda Rainstorm]

Yes, the internet is full of delusional people. Penny and Sheldon only work as friends. They would never put up with each other romantically.

Amy is the only one for Sheldon. Like her or hate her but she is the one for him. No one has got through to Sheldon like Amy.

Leonard and Penny work and they have great chemistry. They are what the other one is missing. They were drawn to each other from the very beginning.

I love, how you said this, HowWeDoItInTheShire.

I see many people, who vent too much negatives, mostly they don't like nothing in the series. But I really don't want to argue, and give all my energie for them.

Yep Rick, that's why it's telling what take the powers that be took. If they used the other take, it would have been clear that Leonard figured out Alex is attraction. But the take they choose proves Leonard still has no clue Alex is into him. That's a big sign that nothing is going to come out of this Alex thing.

I love Alex. And while it's because likely Margo Harshman is one of my favorite actresses of all time. Heck, she's way about Kaley Cuoco on my list... I do think Alex is adorable and right now how they are portraying Alex i have no problem with. They are not making her a homewrecker yet. She just has a crush on Leonard. She isnt trying to Sabotage lenny.

Seconded. Alex is so cute for trying to split Lenny. I think, she has no intentions but flirting.

Sarah, I love-love-love your signature

Edited November 20, 2012 by Frieda

[annieogly]

For those in the spoiler thread who thinks Sheldon 'adores' Amy, there is no such evidence. We find that he does want to keep her as his girlfriend, but this season he has shown 1) he wanted to outsource their anniversary & go dutch 

                                    2) he preferred to have dinner with Wil Wheaton than Amy

                                    3) Sheldon shows zero sexual interest in her.

[Shel_Ra_Ho_Le]

NEVER EVER GONNA HAPPEN in a BILLION, trillion, quadrillion years!  SHAMY 4 LIFE! 

[Guest I'm not dead Cheryl]

For those in the spoiler thread who thinks Sheldon 'adores' Amy, there is no such evidence. We find that he does want to keep her as his girlfriend, but this season he has shown 1) he wanted to outsource their anniversary & go dutch 

                                    2) he preferred to have dinner with Wil Wheaton than Amy

                                    3) Sheldon shows zero sexual interest in her.

that is a VERY partial´and skewed view that lets a lot of facts that happenned that contradict what you're saying

 

1) He didn't want to "outsource their anniversary", he only wanted to outsource the "physical intimacy" aspect to an Indian. Is not the same. He did go to their anniversary date and stayed on it, even after Raj left. And when Amy requested him to say something from the heart, he did, he didn't even hesitate to do so, even if it was quoting Spiderman. Sheldon Cooper is one to be stubborn, but Amy asked him and he did as she wished. He could have very easily "get rid of her" right then. He didn't.

 

2) He did, because Amy suggested he did. We all know Sheldon takes everything literal AND he didn't even comprehend Amy would get mad at him. As soon as he realized she was mad at him, he got really sad, he went to the Cheesecake Factory to moan and say to Penny he was afraid that Amy could leave him. Not only that, but he went to Wil Wheaton's house ready to fight him to defend Amy and make Wil apologize. Sheldon Cooper did that, without anyone telling him to do so. 

 

3) "Amy's dandruff, cascading down her pale, slightly hunched shoulders.... what has that vixen done to me, Leonard?" / "I'm having affectionate feelings for her at innapropiate times" / "I'm in hell Leonard.......... (looks at Amy) don't stop" .. I don't think I need to say anything else. It doesn't have to be literal to be direct about these things, and it doesn't take a genious to figure out that the writers are implying  that Sheldon getting sexually attracted by Amy, even if he doesn't yet fully realizes it. 

 

And I could name a lot more occurences that evidence that Sheldon really does "adores" Amy. You just have to pay attention to the WHOLE episode and not just one or two very convenient scenes. 

Edited November 29, 2012 by Sursonica

[rubyanjel]

And from the past 6 seasons, annie, it has been shown:

a) Sheldon has no interest in Penny

Penny has no interest in Sheldon

c) No matter how many times Penny and Leonard broke up, they still got back together.

d) Sheldon doesn't want to hurt his friend, and something that would hurt his friend is the fact that his best friend and roommate who doesn't even had any interest in girls from the moment he met him would swoop in and try to court Penny when he knows he loves her and has sort of "claimed" Penny ever since he first laid eyes on her.

e) Penny has been so frustrated over the fact that Leonard has so many insecurities about him that she has matter-of-factly told him that SHE LOVES HIM BACK.

f) That Sheldon thinks that Penny is just a "blonde monkey". How can you have adoration for someone (or even pent-up adoration for someone) for 6 years if you enjoy insulting the other?

g) That the thought of Sheldon falling for any other woman besides Amy is laughable to Penny back in the 6.03 episode

h) That Penny treats Sheldon as if he's still a child suffering from a tantrum and the only way to calm the critter down is to bow down to what he demands just to end the discussion

i) Sheldon not only insults her intelligence and abilities but also her physical appearance. Why would you insult someone you are in love with?

j) Why is it until now, 6 seasons in and with no news about further seasons beyond 7, that they haven't made this couple official yet?

i) How many times have we seen Sheldon imagine a woman and have fantasies of her before? How many times have we seen Sheldon FANTASIZE OVER A WOMAN BEFORE?

k) Since when has the writers said that they are following this trope instead of this trope? A trope would exist because of past basis from other things and TV Shows. Just because there's this trope doesn't mean that's what's going to happen. For example, there's this cartoon Hetalia and they call that the anti-trope because almost everything about it against the common tropes such as the one with the blonde hair is the smart one, instead of the brown-haired one. There's thousands of tropes available in literature and you cannot generalize such work since you are not the one who's making it in the first place and it's as if you are already putting words into someone's mouth when you say this trope applies to BBT instead of another one.

[annieogly]

We'll see what happens, the writers aren't being uber consistent as indeed last season Sheldon claimed affectionate feelings for Amy, but this season Sheldon backs off from all physical contact & indeed he wanted to outsource conversation as well as physical intimacy to Raj. At the same time the writers are making him be a good boyfriend & trying hard.

 

I see this as leading to a break-up with Amy dumping him, but Sheldon still being seen sympathetically as he's tried. Same thing with Penny. As for a Sheldon-Penny relationship the writers may indeed try it to see how popular it is....if it is popular the writers will overcome all your obstacles, just like Leonard forgave Raj for almost sleeping with Penny and Howard forgave Leonard for stealing Dr. Stephanie and Sheldon forgave Leonard and the gang for forging fraudulent research data at the North Pole....

[Shel_Ra_Ho_Le]

We'll see what happens, the writers aren't being uber consistent as indeed last season Sheldon claimed affectionate feelings for Amy, but this season Sheldon backs off from all physical contact & indeed he wanted to outsource conversation as well as physical intimacy to Raj. At the same time the writers are making him be a good boyfriend & trying hard.

 

I see this as leading to a break-up with Amy dumping him, but Sheldon still being seen sympathetically as he's tried. Same thing with Penny. As for a Sheldon-Penny relationship the writers may indeed try it to see how popular it is....if it is popular the writers will overcome all your obstacles, just like Leonard forgave Raj for almost sleeping with Penny and Howard forgave Leonard for stealing Dr. Stephanie and Sheldon forgave Leonard and the gang for forging fraudulent research data at the North Pole....

 

 

 

you think he's gonna have physical contact with Penny!  hello!  he doesnt wanna make moves onto Amy whom he adores in his Sheldonique way, you really think he'd hit on Penny?  

Edited November 29, 2012 by Shel_Ra_Ho_Le

[sarah7]

Very good points as usual, Sursonica and Jeanalice (lol at your avatar )

I agree that anti-Shamys have a very selective memory and use to ignore about 80% of the things that happen between the couple (I noticied in the link NIck shared, all of them were complaining about the episodes, half-disheartened focusing in Sheldon's "Leonard made me like you" to Penny and completely ignoring the two times he called Amy "His woman", and all the nice things he said about her, and his fear of her leaving him. "Selective memory", I tell you.

Sheldon is so into Amy, it hurts, for real. One starts to wonder what the poor guy would do if she ever leaves him.

¿Going dutch and preferring to spend one dinner date with a friend instead of the partner are definitve proof of not loving someone? Really?

Wow

First of all, the going dutch thing was just a throwaway joke, to cut the "romanticism" of the scene, like Amy's drunken throwing up after their first kiss, remember this is a sorta crass comedy sitcom, not a super serious drama.

Second, Annie, when you are in a relationship, are you expecting your partner to just want to be with you and ONLY with you all he time, otherwise it's a proof she doesn't love you?

And Sheldon's sexual interest in Amy, don't worry!, we'll definitely see it, as Sursonica says, there are already some hints, but It will take a looooong time to show up (perhaps it will be sooner, I was not expecting Penny's ILY to Leonard to come this soon)

And I have a couple questions that, IMHO, are a bit more interesting regarding Sheldon's feelings for Amy:

If he doesn't have interest/feelings/love for her:

1. Why on earth did he asked her to be his girlfriend in the first place? why does he want to have her in exclusive and out of the reach of other men? If he just wants her as a friend and nothing more, wouldn't it be easier if she had another boyfriend to take care of her baser urges, like the relationship he wanted Dr Stephanie to have with Leonard and him?

2. Let's suppose now that he had tasted the unconveniences of being a boyfriend and knowing that deep inside himself he has "no real feelings" for Amy, why hadn't he tried to end the relationship?, why hadn't he taken the couple opportunities he had to get rid of her, when she had proposed herself to break up?, why is he doing things so out of his comfort zone (like saying romantic speeches, apologizing, buying gifts, compromising or even willing to engage in fights with other men) in order to keep up with the relationship instead?

 

Edit:

 

I have two more questions after reading your last post

 

1. So, basically you are accepting the writers would have to ignore everything they had been developing through 6 seasons (three of them with Shamy) and to make up silly excuses and OCCness (Sheldon: "Oh, well, I tried") and deux ex machinas (like Penny's hypotetical "I've always had feelings for super-sexy Dr. Wacko, but I was hiding them") in order to be able to fulfill your fanon shipper dream?

 

2. Just think about it How popular was the Penny/Raj tentative hook-up? The writers dumped it before it really started for a reason. The majority of the audience will loathe to see Penny with other of the main four than Leonard. This is not the kind of show that merrily allows to swap partners among their protagonists, people care and is invested in the couples that have been already stablished, the writers wouldn't mess with that.

Edited November 29, 2012 by sarah7

[annieogly]

Actually I think that the last new episode had an all time high audience of 20 million people, most probably due to the syndication of seasons 1-3 (that's what drew me in) and that the writers are writing 'classic' episodes this season, heavy on the science, nerd culture to keep these new viewers who got into the show.

That means the ships are the least of it. I watch the show because it's devoted to nerds and is funny, not for any ship. The new viewers aren't invested in any couples.

 

 

Edit; sorry it's 20 mill, wore the wrong glasses..lol

Edited November 29, 2012 by annieogly

[Shel_Ra_Ho_Le]

Actually I think that the last new episode had an all time high audience of 70 million people, most probably due to the syndication of seasons 1-3 (that's what drew me in) and that the writers are writing 'classic' episodes this season, heavy on the science, nerd culture to keep these new viewers who got into the show.

That means the ships are the least of it. I watch the show because it's devoted to nerds and is funny, not for any ship. The new viewers aren't invested in any couples.

 

70 million?  Are you talking about Friends series finale??  And if you don't ship then why are you so hard up on SHENNY?

[rubyanjel]

Making this unnecessary comment to say Thanks and do a curtsie to Sarah for my avatar, and that discussions here will never, ever end as long as threre's people declining to acknowledge what HAS occured. Good points there Sarah and I agree with them! Annie, you just said that the popularity of thr show continues because of syndication, mainly of seasons 1-3. Question is, are these 20 million you speak of aware of what the storyline will be for that episode? Do they know, and really, do they give a fuck if it has the tbbt "oldie" feel to it when they tuned in our recorded it on their DVR? They all care for is to catch up and know what's going on recently for these characters. You seem to forget that the 2nd highest rated episode was 6.07, and it was a Shamy+H/B episode and if people DO NOT CARE for relationship drama, then why did they got an even higher audience following for the next one? Would they have an idea it would not have A and B there?