PENNY AND SHELDON MAYBE?

[cbolt]

So you were proud of him being a douche? I had no problem disagreeing with her views but he went about the wrong way and look bad in her eyes.

A scientist having trouble believing that someone actually believes in astrology is not being a douche, he's being a man of science and reason. If it offends someone like Penny that much she could always stop going over to Leonard and Sheldon's apartment. Since she didn't stop going over and she is dating Leonard again so obviously she didn't think he was acting like a douche. Either that or she wants Leonard so badly that she is willing to overlook his "douche" like behavior. Maybe she just isn't that sensitive.

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Let me guess, it's the whole "Leonard is terrible to Penny because he made fun of her believing in astrology" thing, isn't it? There is so much that he could be critical of her on, and isn't, such as loose morals, poor money management, excessive drinking, stealing services (wifi), stealing from Good Will, being a slob, and mooching meals. Leonard doesn't criticize her for any of those things. But he has problems believing that anyone is serious about astrology and he is a bad person. One episode in how many years? Maybe she should just run to Sheldon's arms, he never criticizes her for anything. (Imagine me holding up a sarcasm sign at this point).

Oh shut up look in the mirror before you critize someone, I have no problem with Leonard not believing in astrology but his behavior was unacceptable, you act like Leonard is some saint and has such high morals, guess what he doesn't, maybe he should get a medal for not just being her friend/neighbor but putting up with her while they dated(sarcasm), why don't he get back together with Priya with their "perfect morals" and they can be happy together.

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Oh shut up? What a comeback! Look in the mirror before I criticize (correct way to spell the word) someone? Who was I criticizing? Why don't (should be doesn't) he get back together with Priya.......... He doesn't get back together with Priya because he is now with Penny, although Priya would be a much better match for him. Evidently Penny wants to be with Leonard. I guess she just has low standards or she just wants some of that good physicist loving (holding up sarcasm sign).

What are you watching where you think priya is a good person and perfect for Leonard?

Maybe Penny wants to be with Leonard because he won't hurt her or cheat on her and is with him because she feels safe and secure.

Btw you're missing my point about the astrology it's not wheter he believes it or not( why is he surprised did he forget the first time he and Sheldon met her in the apt. and mentions her sign?) it's his behavior about it you can say "Penny I don't believe in that since I'm a scientist and need proof." but I respect your opinon and beliefs even if I don't agree with them(since he didn't maybe he doesn't respect her opinon or beliefs.) but no she says don't laugh and he does and makes her feel bad, when Howard knows you screwed up you screwed up.

[BigBang]

He was a douche, yes... but I am totally accepting of his behavior in that scene. It was one of the few times we ever see Leonatd truly being Leonard in front of Penny and not just saying what he thinks he should be saying to her. I was proud of him.

I agree. It was a rare moment of honesty for Leonard.

[rickfromillinois]

I was watching the episode where Sheldon was going to get an award but didn't want to give a speech. During the episode the gang volunteered to help out Sheldon and would be his "X-man". Penny turned to Leonard and asked him if she liked X-man. He replied to her yes, she saw the movie last week and told him that she liked it. She then patted him on the leg and said "Oh sweetie, I say lot's of things".

Sounds to me that Penny is being her true self in front of Leonard. She is saying lying to him just to get what she wants out of him.

By the way, that's not a criticism of Penny nor Leonard. If anyone in a long term relationship really things that there partner never lies to them about their like or dislikes in order to make them happy or to just smooth out the relationship are either fooling themselves or about to be divorced.

I can't speak from the ladies perspective but from a man's side, do you really think that when you have your hair done men always think that it looks nice, or the outfit you want to wear when you go out does? That they really enjoy watching all of the shows that you do? That the new recipe that you tried out really tastes great? Could it be that sometimes it is more important to them that you are happy then complaining about meaningless things like how a dinner tastes or what you watch occasionally for entertainment? Do you really want them to always be honest when you ask if it looks like you put on a few pounds? This is not a fault when either people do it.

[tsotb]

We know that there is on thing that all four of the main characters value a lot : science.Although leonard could have been abit more gracious , we can't blame him for expressing how he feels about astology.

Imagine the situation was reversed and leonard said. He beleived in something that penny though was stupid, what do you think she would do?

[SydNC]

We know that there is on thing that all four of the main characters value a lot : science.Although leonard could have been abit more gracious , we can't blame him for expressing how he feels about astology.

Imagine the situation was reversed and leonard said. He beleived in something that penny though was stupid, what do you think she would do?

Call him a dork and say he has no life, both of which she has done several times.

[rickfromillinois]

Penny asked Leonard if she liked X-men and he answered "yes, remember you saw it last week and you said you liked it" and she patted him on the knee and answered "Sweetie, I say allot of things". Does that make Penny a "douche"? She wasn't honest with him in the past. She wasn't being herself.

This constant accusation of Leonard being some kind of a "douche" is bovine excrement. I have not heard of him doing anything so far out of line that he should be called that with the possible exception of when he went to the Arctic with Sheldon, and even then what no one seems upset about is the fact the Raj and Howard were planning on KILLING him. Did any of the 3 seem to feel remorse for what happened? NO. So just why is Leonard the "douche" ?

Another constant complaint is that Leonard just wanted to get in Penny's pants. All of the straight guys who read this tell us that you wouldn't try to just get in Penny's pants when if when you first met her and you were in your 20's and unattached.

I don't know why some people view Leonard's actions with a super critical eye while turning a blind eye to everyone else. Leonard is not perfect but good grief, he isn't any worse then an average person. Things are being blown so far out of proportion and it is becoming bizarre.

Like it or not, Sheldon hooking up with Penny would be just too strange and stretches belief beyond reason. Despite some borderline rabid criticism of Leonard, he is still a hundred times better partner for Penny the Sheldon would be. Howard would be better then Sheldon. Raj would be better then Sheldon. AMY would be a better match then Sheldon.

[tsotb]

We know that there is on thing that all four of the main characters value a lot : science.Although leonard could have been abit more gracious , we can't blame him for expressing how he feels about astology.

Imagine the situation was reversed and leonard said. He beleived in something that penny though was stupid, what do you think she would do?

Call him a dork and say he has no life, both of which she has done several times.

Exactly!!!So why is it that the one time compared to many times that leonard is a bit rude to penny , everyone syas he's a bad guy. NO-one says pennys a bad person and she has insulted leonards loads of times.

Through the duration of their romantic relationship , it has always been that penny is too good for leonard or that even if she does something bad to him , he will always come running back to penny.Well I say good on you leonard for expressing how you feel!!!

[Europa]

We know that there is on thing that all four of the main characters value a lot : science.Although leonard could have been abit more gracious , we can't blame him for expressing how he feels about astology.

Imagine the situation was reversed and leonard said. He beleived in something that penny though was stupid, what do you think she would do?

Call him a dork and say he has no life, both of which she has done several times.

This is true. However, I would go ahead and say Leonard was pretty insensitive about the astrology thing because she specifically asked him not to laugh. So of course she was hurt when he didn't even try not to laugh at her. However, in fairness, she's certainly mocked him enough times that she didn't have to get as upset as she did, and obviously in asking him not to laugh, she knew what he really thought anyway.

On topic: Sheldon would be a horrible match for Penny, and vice versa. They don't respect each other - he thinks she's stupid, she thinks he's neurotic. Then there's also the whole physical contact thing - what would Penny want with a man who can barely get himself to hold hands? The antagonistic friendship they've managed to forge is perfect - usually hilarious and often touching.

[tsotb]

We know that there is on thing that all four of the main characters value a lot : science.Although leonard could have been abit more gracious , we can't blame him for expressing how he feels about astology.

Imagine the situation was reversed and leonard said. He beleived in something that penny though was stupid, what do you think she would do?

Call him a dork and say he has no life, both of which she has done several times.

This is true. However, I would go ahead and say Leonard was pretty insensitive about the astrology thing because she specifically asked him not to laugh. So of course she was hurt when he didn't even try not to laugh at her. However, in fairness, she's certainly mocked him enough times that she didn't have to get as upset as she did, and obviously in asking him not to laugh, she knew what he really thought anyway.

On topic: Sheldon would be a horrible match for Penny, and vice versa. They don't respect each other - he thinks she's stupid, she thinks he's neurotic. Then there's also the whole physical contact thing - what would Penny want with a man who can barely get himself to hold hands? The antagonistic friendship they've managed to forge is perfect - usually hilarious and often touching.

I agree , the writers have worked hard to show the path of sheldon and pennys forged friendship and has therefore added a lot of comedy to the show.Why. Would the writers throw all that away and start a romantic relationship between sheldon and penny.

1.It wouldn't work, he thinks of him as a socially retarded child and he think of her as a dumb ass.

2.It would ruin sheldon/leonard and penny/amy friendship and it is mostly their friendships that make us laugh.

3. Uh, just....no

[rickfromillinois]

Something that seems to constantly downplayed is how everyone associated with the show not only says that it isn't going to happen, but actually seem surprised that anyone would actually think that it was a good idea.

[tsotb]

I seriously don't know where the idea came from. Its just crazy!!

[LoveShamy]

hmmmm

People say they should not change Sheldons character so why change pennys? Her character expresses how much Sheldon is not her type in so many ways, they have more of a brother sister, mother son relationship in my view.

But I can see where people get the idea from, their bickering ect.

But no in my opinion.

[LoveShamy]

I see Penny and Sheldon more as brother and sister so the idea of them together always grosses me out. I really don't see any signs of chemistry.

I posted the same brother sister type thing going on:) Shamy right? aha

[Superlovelexi]

It's not going to happen unless the writers are just trying to mess with people and cause a big uproar again like with Penny/Raj. IT be a misunderstanding and be quickly resolved not a full relationship like Penny/Leonard and SHeldon/Amy. Penny and Sheldon are much better off as friends or brother/sister types. In fact I'd rather Penny's dad marry Sheldon's mom and them become siblings for real then see a Penny/Sheldon hook up that would be just GROSS!! and very 'jump the shark' thing that even actors say they don't want that.

[rickfromillinois]

IMO Penny and Sheldon's relationship is more along the line of a surrogate mother and a little boy. Any hookup between them have shadings of the perverse.

[tsotb]

Lol for like so many pages on this thread there hasn't been any shenny shippers that have posted anything . We. Shamy shippers have just being shooting points:)

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I think this shenny idea has just come from the fact that they are the last people you would expect to have a romantic relationship together but because of the curiosity of the human heart , people start to want them to happen. Well I say stop listening to your heart and start paying attention to common sense . SHENNY IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN AND THAT IS FOR THE BEST!!!!

[Superlovelexi]

My heart tells me that Shamy belong together and so do Howard and Bernadette and to a lesser but necessary extent so do Penny and Leonard. Those three couples should be end game IMO. Now lets focus on finding somebody for Raj before he buys 25 poodles and names them all after ex contestants on America's next top model. LOL

[Moonbase]

I seriously don't know where the idea came from. Its just crazy!!

Not sure, but I suspect the idea came could have come from Season 2. In the early days we didn't know if Leonard and Penny were going to become a long term couple and it could have gone either way. The writers were writing show by show and had no long term plan (it's possible they still don't). In Season 2 there were a load of episodes featuring Sheldon and Penny together and they were so great the shenny thing really gained momentum. Now the characters have moved on, and Season 3 really put a spanner in the works when they turned Penny in to his mother figure. Perhaps that was a deliberate move, who knows.

[tsotb]

I guess I didn't think about that but people need to stop living under the delusion that shenny could possibly happen . The cast themselves have expressed their confusion when people have told the of the shenny idea .

Just face it , the show would lose a lot of views because ( and if you don't believe me , look at the poll) most people think shamy is the way to go . Why would the writers practically throw their profits away by introducing the shenny relationship when they can please the masses by adding lots of comicial shamy storylines.

[Superlovelexi]

I think if writers are smart they are just going to keep shamy together until the show ends and then every once in awhile throw in some cute shenny moments that keep the shenny fans happy enough to keep watching too. No need to alienate either fanbase Shamy or Shenny imo.

And the Shenny fans have fanfiction so that should be enough right?.

Though it probably didn't help matters that at Comic Con last year when someone asked the writers if Sheldon will ever have sex, kaley said jokingly "Penny will also have to teach him that too" and Jim laughed and nodded. And the continuing jokes with Amy making sexual innuendo at Penny makes some people think she is bisexual and wants both Sheldon and Penny so that adds a whole other issue to it.

Personally, I would like the writers to stop with the Amy flirting with Penny stuff its rarely funny and its going overboard now that Sheldon and Amy are in a serious relationship. Sheldon is touching her now too so she doesnt need to be flirting with Penny when she should be flirting with Sheldon.

But I recently found out after reading fan comments online that the idea of Sheldon/Penny/Amy is now gaining popularity as an alternative too from what I've found reading online So though i don't think Shenny or a threesome is realistically going to happen on the show ever either. I guess its just fun for some people to fantasize that it could happen which is why writers and actors keep joking about it on the show.

I've seen the fans do this same kind of thing for almost every show I watch on tv. Whatever relationships that aren't going to happen on the show on in a movie trilogy there is always a small yet very vocal minority that still want it to happen. Sometimes people just want what they cant' have. Its part of the human condition.

[tsotb]

Well if shenny does happpen I will seriously stop watching the show . It will completely ruin the show and I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me.

[Moonbase]

Well if shenny does happpen I will seriously stop watching the show . It will completely ruin the show and I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me.

No arguments here.

[Beecharmer]

Though I feel Shenny is better than Shamy (chemisty and opposites attract argument) I feel that IF Shenny were to ever happen it would have to be handled carefully and it should ONLY be brought up on the very last episode. Series finale.

I remember watching X-Files and thinking Mulder/Scully could be good together but I also didn't want them together (For fear of show changing)...same feeling I have with Penny/Sheldon. X-Files took that leap and it felt WEIRD (to me anyways). In the last movie where Mulder/Scully are kissing...a movie about 10 years after the series ended, with plenty of time to adjust, I still felt like them together was awkward and just not right.

So what I'm thinking is that IF Shenny ever happened, I bet there would be tons of people (Some shippers even) who will just feel uncomfortable seeing the two of them as a couple.

[Im_not_crazy]

It just sucks how our society can't seem to deal with the fact that two heterosexual people of the opposite sex can function as friends, without developing sexual attractions towards one another. Penny and Sheldon should remain friends, the sister-brother bond between them is amazing. The frienship between them is so geniune and unique, it would be horrible to ruin such a thing.

[tsotb]

They have a brother /sister relatioship and its just stupid for them to start a romantic relationship. They wouldn't anyway.

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Amy was the first person that sheldon viewed in that way and that was because of the brains . Let's face it , penny definatly doesn't have that and sheldon doesn't se her in that eay either so why would they start now?