NO MORE AMY

[horizonrusted]

I don't agree with this growth thing. Look at Friends, ten seasons and at the end the characters were very recognisable as themselves. They went through many different experiences but were basically the same characters. No one was added to the cast and even major extra characters like Ross's second wife and Pheobes husband were kept to a bare minimum. They kept the basic premise and dynamic throughout the entire ten seasons. It's a sitcom not a soap or drama there isn't a massive need for character growth.

Amy is the reason I haven't watched the last episode or two, it just got too much and had become the Amy show rather than The Big Bang Theory.

Yeah but Friends sucked.

[ekap2]

WHAT I DONT LIKE is how sheldon got a girlfried that isn't supposed to happen second now its about geeky relationship wtf happened to this show?

[horizonrusted]

WHAT I DONT LIKE is how sheldon got a girlfried that isn't supposed to happen second now its about geeky relationship wtf happened to this show?

It seems that right from the beginning one the show's central story lines was about the Penny/Leanord relationship. Personally, I find the Sheldon/Amy relationship much more interesting. Really, most great storytelling is about human relationships. Anna Karenina without Vronsky is just a story about some chick. Even Wang Lung would have nothing without his relationship with the land & miss Buck would have been forced to change the name of her book to "The Good..."

[ekap2]

WHAT I DONT LIKE is how sheldon got a girlfried that isn't supposed to happen second now its about geeky relationship wtf happened to this show?

It seems that right from the beginning one the show's central story lines was about the Penny/Leanord relationship. Personally, I find the Sheldon/Amy relationship much more interesting. Really, most great storytelling is about human relationships. Anna Karenina without Vronsky is just a story about some chick. Even Wang Lung would have nothing without his relationship with the land & miss Buck would have been forced to change the name of her book to "The Good..."

listen only adressing the first things that is just not true season 1-3 was bassically no relationships (i have every episode) leonard/penny was the second major theme for the love of g-d wtf did they change that?

[horizonrusted]

But wasn't the last line of that very first episode "our children will be smart AND beautiful?"

[Disgusted]

But wasn't the last line of that very first episode "our children will be smart AND beautiful?"

"as well as imaginary."

[horizonrusted]

But wasn't the last line of that very first episode "our children will be smart AND beautiful?"

"as well as imaginary."

Haha, how could I forget Sheldon's refrain. Bless him. But my original point remains the same. Romantic relationship (or the longing for) has been a central theme of the show from the start.

[ekap2]

But wasn't the last line of that very first episode "our children will be smart AND beautiful?"

"as well as imaginary."

Haha, how could I forget Sheldon's refrain. Bless him. But my original point remains the same. Romantic relationship (or the longing for) has been a central theme of the show from the start.

no ure just wrong. I'm sorry and until season 4 there were no relationships save for occsaional flings and leonard/penny. (leonard penny dated for 3/4 of a season) WAIT unless you mean relationships as in like plutonic (sheldon-leonard) (nerd-normal) then yes fully agree if you mean like gf-bf no

[ODJ1998]

No way Amy and Bernadette are vine where they are. They have brought loads of new story lines into the show.

[Dominar]

I don't hate Amy, but I don't see any chemistry between her and Sheldon. They're more like brother/sister, or just plain friends, to me. While it's great she is able to connect with Sheldon and share the same interests, I don't think she provides the "safe" place he needs to feel comfortable. OMMV, of course.

[ekap2]

amy gets sheldon out of his box shamy i dont mind amy i do i do a lot

[Kyzzx]

I personally like Amy but it's starting to get sad in reference to her relationship with Sheldon. It's just getting darker. He either needs to break out of his comfort zone (which is really unlikely to happen, and even if it does, I feel like the VAST majority of the audience will be unhappy, since I know a lot of people were uncomfortable with Sheldon in The Werewolf Transformation), or she needs to realize he's not going to satisfy her in any physical way. It's getting to the point where I feel bad for her but love her character, and I have a feeling there can't be any way she'll stick around much longer feeling like that. I feel like she might get fed up and leave. Who knows, though.

Also, I love Bernadette. Done and done.

[djvang]

Amy is destroying the Sheldon character. When watching him in reruns it's striking how much funnier he was before she joined the show. And Sheldon IS the show. If they don't stop this track they seem to be on the show will die.

[ekap2]

sheldon is not the show he just whta makes people stay and makes people start. bernadette while i dont dislike she not on par and amy ya i agree taht something going tp happen but the werewolf transformation was awesome

[amshafe]

I'm new here, but until this thread I have not heard anyone say anything like that about the Werewolf Transformation. In fact a lot of people were praising the episode, some calling it the best of the season in the comments on the cbs site.

I love Amy and Bernadette. I think they are assets to the show. They add a IMO much needed expanded female element, and they play a big part in the guys' character develpment.

I don't understand at all why Sheldon is expected to not evolve or change at all throughout the course of the show by some people? Since when does that ever happen on a TV show? I'm not saying that his personality should change, nor do I want it to, but isn't the whole point of the relationships, platonic or romantic, b/w these characters is that they are all learning from each other and helping each other grow? So singling out Sheldon to remain stagnant while everyone else evolves is ridiculous and unrealistic IMO. Sheldon's core personality is still the same. I think he's just as funny as he used to be. My favorite seasons are 4 and 5 in fact. But these characters are not going to remain the way they were in season 1, and honestly I'm confused as why people would expect them to. That never happens in a TV show, ever.

[Moon_Pie]

Amy's funny..she should stay. The characters can't be the same as they were in the first season, people change so it's normal that they evolve. My fav seasons are 3 and 4, particulary for that reason.

[Pomita]

I don't understand at all why Sheldon is expected to not evolve or change at all throughout the course of the show by some people? Since when does that ever happen on a TV show? I'm not saying that his personality should change, nor do I want it to, but isn't the whole point of the relationships, platonic or romantic, b/w these characters is that they are all learning from each other and helping each other grow? So singling out Sheldon to remain stagnant while everyone else evolves is ridiculous and unrealistic IMO. Sheldon's core personality is still the same. I think he's just as funny as he used to be. My favorite seasons are 4 and 5 in fact. But these characters are not going to remain the way they were in season 1, and honestly I'm confused as why people would expect them to. That never happens in a TV shows, ever.

I completely agree. In fact my main crib at this time is about Raj, because his character is stagnant and hence getting sidelined. When you see a group of young people (even nerds) over several years, they are expected to grow and change and develop new relationships.

[ekap2]

listen... people are riduculous there is change from season 1-2 2-3... i think they mean they dont like how sheldon changed. personally he's more human i want him back 5o late season 3-4. i love episodes where sheldon has to drink, cofee or alchohal or has to do something crazy

[amshafe]

listen... people are riduculous there is change from season 1-2 2-3... i think they mean they dont like how sheldon changed. personally he's more human i want him back 5o late season 3-4. i love episodes where sheldon has to drink, cofee or alchohal or has to do something crazy

Yes, he's more "human", but I think people should have expected that to inevitably happen, as the premise of the show is these nerdy guys meeting their neighbor across the hall and how it affects all of their lives. From the very beginning the characters were set up to evolve because of their relationships with each other. And it's been very gradual and realistic IMO.

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I don't understand at all why Sheldon is expected to not evolve or change at all throughout the course of the show by some people? Since when does that ever happen on a TV show? I'm not saying that his personality should change, nor do I want it to, but isn't the whole point of the relationships, platonic or romantic, b/w these characters is that they are all learning from each other and helping each other grow? So singling out Sheldon to remain stagnant while everyone else evolves is ridiculous and unrealistic IMO. Sheldon's core personality is still the same. I think he's just as funny as he used to be. My favorite seasons are 4 and 5 in fact. But these characters are not going to remain the way they were in season 1, and honestly I'm confused as why people would expect them to. That never happens in a TV shows, ever.

I completely agree. In fact my main crib at this time is about Raj, because his character is stagnant and hence getting sidelined. When you see a group of young people (even nerds) over several years, they are expected to grow and change and develop new relationships.

I agree about Raj. I think at this point the only reason it's not happening is 1) for laughs and 2) because Raj as a character often gets ignored in favor of other characters.

It doesn't bug me as much as it would some b/c Raj isn't one of my favorites, but I still think we need to see some change.

Looks like it may happen to a certain extent in future episodes though.

[Pomita]

I agree about Raj. I think at this point the only reason it's not happening is 1) for laughs and 2) because Raj as a character often gets ignored in favor of other characters.

It doesn't bug me as much as it would some b/c Raj isn't one of my favorites, but I still think we need to see some change.

Looks like it may happen to a certain extent in future episodes though.

It doesn't really bother me either, because for me he's one of the less important characters anyway, but I brought him up as a hint of how infuriating it could have been if all of them remained stuck in season 1 levels of awkwardness and romantic failure through the entire run of the show.

[Moonbase]

My favourite Raj scenes are with Sheldon. When they are trying to figure out the psychics problem in The Pirate Solution, to the song 'eye of the tiger' and when they have a massive row and Raj blows a raspberry. Also The Psychic Vortex when Raj tries to get Sheldon to go out to a mixer and when they do they both pull.

Sheldon says "If outside is so good, why has mankind spent thousands of years trying to perfect inside?" Raj "I don’t know, it’s a marketing scheme."

He's better when he's riled up or part of a double act in my opinion.

[Moon_Pie]

My favourite Raj scenes are with Sheldon. When they are trying to figure out the psychics problem in The Pirate Solution, to the song 'eye of the tiger' and when they have a massive row and Raj blows a raspberry. Also The Psychic Vortex when Raj tries to get Sheldon to go out to a mixer and when they do they both pull.

Sheldon says "If outside is so good, why has mankind spent thousands of years trying to perfect inside?" Raj "I don’t know, it’s a marketing scheme."

He's better when he's riled up or part of a double act in my opinion.

Oh, I totally love those episodes. I also like the one where Raj buys that huge desk to annoy Sheldon

[Moonbase]

My favourite Raj scenes are with Sheldon. When they are trying to figure out the psychics problem in The Pirate Solution, to the song 'eye of the tiger' and when they have a massive row and Raj blows a raspberry. Also The Psychic Vortex when Raj tries to get Sheldon to go out to a mixer and when they do they both pull.

Sheldon says "If outside is so good, why has mankind spent thousands of years trying to perfect inside?" Raj "I don’t know, it’s a marketing scheme."

He's better when he's riled up or part of a double act in my opinion.

Oh, I totally love those episodes. I also like the one where Raj buys that huge desk to annoy Sheldon

The fight gets a bit much later on, until they blow up the parrot. That's pretty funny.

When they are out, Raj is in charge instructing Sheldon on women. When he normally plays the hopeless one with Howard. It seems to work.

[Pomita]

My favourite Raj scenes are with Sheldon. When they are trying to figure out the psychics problem in The Pirate Solution, to the song 'eye of the tiger' and when they have a massive row and Raj blows a raspberry. Also The Psychic Vortex when Raj tries to get Sheldon to go out to a mixer and when they do they both pull.

Sheldon says "If outside is so good, why has mankind spent thousands of years trying to perfect inside?" Raj "I don’t know, it’s a marketing scheme."

He's better when he's riled up or part of a double act in my opinion.

Hi-5! Pirate Solution ties for my favorite Season 3 episode, and that's saying a lot. Raj and Sheldon together - either as friends or adversaries - is comedy gold. I can never get over his finger-wiggle defeat of Sheldon, and the Brobdingnagian desk. :D

[Moonbase]

My favourite Raj scenes are with Sheldon. When they are trying to figure out the psychics problem in The Pirate Solution, to the song 'eye of the tiger' and when they have a massive row and Raj blows a raspberry. Also The Psychic Vortex when Raj tries to get Sheldon to go out to a mixer and when they do they both pull.

Sheldon says "If outside is so good, why has mankind spent thousands of years trying to perfect inside?" Raj "I don’t know, it’s a marketing scheme."

He's better when he's riled up or part of a double act in my opinion.

Hi-5! Pirate Solution ties for my favorite Season 3 episode, and that's saying a lot. Raj and Sheldon together - either as friends or adversaries - is comedy gold. I can never get over his finger-wiggle defeat of Sheldon, and the Brobdingnagian desk. :D

Me too Its such a great episode and I like Raj showing some intelligence. He can be a bit wet sometimes.