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2 additional points that somehow continues to be selectively forgotten by some.

1) All of the regular cast (Penny, Howard, Leonard, and Raj) have on numerous occasions said the Sheldon is nuts or batcrap crazy. Are the writers trying to make a point here?

2) When Penny took Sheldon to Disneyland. Remember how Leonard and Penny treated Sheldon when he came home? Remember how he responded? Penny and Leonard were the adults/surrogate parents and Sheldon was the child.

Penny and Sheldon may be a good match is some Universe, but certainly NOT in this one.

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When you start using cutesey pictures and putdowns because you're losing an argument, it means one thing - too late, you already lost, buh-bye! :icon_wink::icon_lol:

If Sheldon himself would read this thread HE TOO would think that the Sheldon/Penny supporters were "winning" the argument. Which is hysterical, and is all you need to know really.

Sheldon has the analytical ability of a computer when it comes to data and hard facts. Throw in a single emotion, and he has the computation, logic, and problem solving skills of a bowl of soup.

Throw in something enormously complicated such as love and relationships, and he has the skills of the bowl itself.

If the Sheldon/Penny fan club want to see what their relationship would be like, watch Forrest Gump. Cute blonde on top of a man out of confused pity rather than something stronger or more genuine.

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I was just making some hypothetical questions, just to use our imaginations, to try to analyse a bit of the psychology behind a fandom phenomenon

So you were trying to analyze the psychology of FANS, to determine why they like Sheldon.

Any other theories you'd like to share with us, besides your brilliant conclusion of "ooh, they only like him because he's cute"? :icon_lol:

Didn't anyone ever tell you how decidedly rude and arrogant that is, to make assumptions and conjectures about what drives people to like or to dislike a fictional character? :icon_eek:

If you really want to go there, we could explore similar hypotheses of why certain people are so enamoured with Leonard.

Why do you feel an affinity with a loser? If Leonard weren't so pathetic and whiny, would you still like him? Is there something broken in the psychology of Lenny fans that makes them find excuses for someone who betrayed his friend to get into a girl's pants? I wonder, what kind of a fan sympathizes the most with the story of a passive-aggressive self-hating nerd? Why the idea of a girl being liked purely for her physical beauty doesn't ring any warning bells (a pretty girl would know from experience to beware)? etc...

I could write pages of thinly veiled insulting psychological analyses and assumptions on what drives YOUR interpretation of the show, but I won't. 'Cause that would be wrong! :icon_wink::icon_lol:

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It is that whole, 'would like to be more normal' characteristic that makes Leonard so unappealling. Why can't he just be happy with who he is as a person? Sheldon is happy with who he is.

Leonard is the straight man of TBBT, he's the character whom the entire show depends. It's his need to seek out the ordinary (Penny) which gives TBBT it's premise and his part in this is so undervalued. Without him the nerds would simply be alone, girl free and locked up in that apartment forever, doing games marathons. He's the catalyst.

It also the hardest role because he has no loveable quirks to make us laugh or lighten his character. He's just a normal person, who tends to say the wrong things and makes mistakes like normal people do. Just a representation of someone real. Sheldon, lets face it, doesn't exist! Where are the asexual genius boys, with the 'hipster-nerd' good looks? Urm… if you find one let me know. :icon_twisted::icon_cheesygrin:

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So you were trying to analyze the psychology of FANS, to determine why they like Sheldon.

Any other theories you'd like to share with us, besides your brilliant conclusion of "ooh, they only like him because he's cute"? :icon_lol:

Didn't anyone ever tell you how decidedly rude and arrogant that is, to make assumptions and conjectures about what drives people to like or to dislike a fictional character? :icon_eek:

If you really want to go there, we could explore similar hypotheses of why certain people are so enamoured with Leonard.

Why do you feel an affinity with a loser? If Leonard weren't so pathetic and whiny, would you still like him? Is there something broken in the psychology of Lenny fans.....

I could write pages of thinly veiled insulting psychological analyses and assumptions on what drives YOUR interpretation of the show, but I won't. 'Cause that would be wrong! :icon_wink::icon_lol:

You won't???

You DID!

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"Why do you feel an affinity with a loser? If Leonard weren't so pathetic and whiny, would you still like him? Is there something broken in the psychology of Lenny fans that makes them find excuses for someone who betrayed his friend to get into a girl's pants? I wonder, what kind of a fan sympathizes the most with the story of a passive-aggressive self-hating nerd? Why the idea of a girl being liked purely for her physical beauty doesn't ring any warning bells (a pretty girl would know from experience to beware)? etc..."

Maybe most people feel an affinity for Leonard because they totally discard your description of him. Leonard betrayed his friend to get into a girl's pants? You mean that girl that Howard had earlier picked up in a bar with the promise of letting her drive the Mars Rover? The one that told Leonard that Howard never had a chance? Just how did Howard have any claim what so ever on her? Let me guess, he called "dibbs". As for being attracted to a girl for her good looks, let's take 95% of the straight guys his age in the world and shoot them, then take the other 5% and hang them for being liars. While we are at it, let's condemn all those women who are attracted to men because of their looks, you know, women like Penny. We can even do so with women who keep saying how cute Sheldon is and how beautiful is eyes are.

I don't know why Leonard is held up to such higher standards then everyone else on the show. He is often accused of trivial and often imagined wrong doing while others on the show have behaved much worse and not a word is said against them.

Is it just me or is it a little strange that so much time and effort is spent on demonizing Leonard on a threat that is about Penny going out with Sheldon? I can understand why people would criticize Sheldon while coming up with reasons why he and Penny should never go out, by why so much time on rabid attacks on Leonard. It seems a little bizarre or perhaps if there is no real way to defend Sheldon then some feel that they must attack Leonard.

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Thanks Slicknickshady, rickfromillinois, HeWolf ans mjc45 :)

1) All of the regular cast (Penny, Howard, Leonard, and Raj) have on numerous occasions said the Sheldon is nuts or batcrap crazy. Are the writers trying to make a point here?

2) When Penny took Sheldon to Disneyland. Remember how Leonard and Penny treated Sheldon when he came home? Remember how he responded? Penny and Leonard were the adults/surrogate parents and Sheldon was the child.

But his mom got him tested! (okay, she also accepts she should have taken him to that specialist in Houston ;))

And yes, P/L had many times played the role of surrogate parents for Sheldon, latest ocassion in TWT. It's one of my fave dynamics, actually.

Any other theories you'd like to share with us, besides your brilliant conclusion of "ooh, they only like him because he's cute"? :icon_lol:

Actually, yes, I have a few more. But you will have to wait until my book is out to read them :icon_wink:

Okay, everyone, sorry for my cheap attempts of analysis. :icon_cheesygrin:

One of the things I like the most about the show, is that I think almost all the characters are very interesting and complex, and that they have multiple layers. I think there's nothing wrong with trying to dissect them, the situations they go through and the fans response to them, and which could be the reasons behind that response.

In this particular case, I was just trying to point out a personal observation regarding one of the reasons (not the only one, of course) behind the adoration some fans have towards Sheldon. In fact, it was not even a "conclusion"! I was merely, wondering, but seems it was enough to hit some nerves.

Of course I'm not trying to say those fans are wrong or shallow, neiher that I have the absolute answer and that my view is the correct one, it's just that: MY opinion and is not more or less valid than the one expressed by someone else. Some will be closer to canon than others, but, at the end, all of them are subjective.

Now, regarding the character of Leonard, his personality and complexity, the reason because his fans are drawn to him and why some people seem to have an almost pathological hate for him....

I'm so glad you asked!

But perhaps we should discuss him in a more adecuate thread, shall we?

For starters, to make an odious comparison, and to have some food for thought:

I think I read above that one of the things that haters find more "unnappealing" about him, is the fact that he is not that happy with being what he is: a nerd. He would like to be "cooler", right?

Well, here it comes the odious but necessary comparison: Leonard could renegate of being a nerd, but Sheldon renegates of being human!

How about that?

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I don't see Leonard's pursuit of Penny as a grab at 'normal'. In his eyes Penny is not 'normal' she is a goddess. As he said in the episode after they split up in season 3, 'you will meet a gorgeous girl who is everything you ever wanted, blah, blah, blah'. His relationship with Penny is not a natural bonding of two like minded people. It is Leonard making his fantasies a reality.

Rick pointed out that when I mentioned Leonard's short attention span with women, he repeatedly said 'they weren't dating at the time' as a defense of Leonard lusting after other women. It is interesting though that since the very beginning of the show Leonard has behaved with a bizarre possessive jealousy with Penny. His reaction each time he saw her with another guy was over the top, like the hurting ex who can't bear to see his girl with another man.

Amy is teaching Sheldon what is involved in a relationship. Yes it is a long hard slog, but she is teaching a man who has no real understanding of social relationships (hardly surprising). She is getting through to him and he is growing as a result. The concept of a relationship between him and Penny is as I and others have mentioned, a long way into the future. When both have grown a lot and Leonard has moved on yet again to another woman. You know, I have to say for a fairly unattractive, whiny, insecure male he seems to score remarkably well with a variety of attractive women. Would this happen in real life? I doubt it.

I have also met a super genius, socially clueless man who was remarkably good looking. Nerd and unattractive don't automatically go together.

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I don't see Leonard's pursuit of Penny as a grab at 'normal'. In his eyes Penny is not 'normal' she is a goddess. As he said in the episode after they split up in season 3, 'you will meet a gorgeous girl who is everything you ever wanted, blah, blah, blah'. His relationship with Penny is not a natural bonding of two like minded people. It is Leonard making his fantasies a reality.

Rick pointed out that when I mentioned Leonard's short attention span with women, he repeatedly said 'they weren't dating at the time' as a defense of Leonard lusting after other women. It is interesting though that since the very beginning of the show Leonard has behaved with a bizarre possessive jealousy with Penny. His reaction each time he saw her with another guy was over the top, like the hurting ex who can't bear to see his girl with another man.

Amy is teaching Sheldon what is involved in a relationship. Yes it is a long hard slog, but she is teaching a man who has no real understanding of social relationships (hardly surprising). She is getting through to him and he is growing as a result. The concept of a relationship between him and Penny is as I and others have mentioned, a long way into the future. When both have grown a lot and Leonard has moved on yet again to another woman. You know, I have to say for a fairly unattractive, whiny, insecure male he seems to score remarkably well with a variety of attractive women. Would this happen in real life? I doubt it.

I have also met a super genius, socially clueless man who was remarkably good looking. Nerd and unattractive don't automatically go together.

I never said nerds can not be attractive. I'm a nerd and a hottie thank you very much. I'm saying Sheldon is not as realistic a character as Leonard is.

Of course Leonard thinks Penny is a goddess. That's the whole point. Personally I do see her as normal. She's very attractive yes, but a very conventional type of woman. I could imagine Sheldon with a dozen better matches before I'd ever pick Penny. 

Of course, it could happen. This is TV after all. But are you simply waiting on the deconstruction of the shows current arrangement? I don't think L/P are perfect but it doesn't offend me. 

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"His reaction each time he saw her with another guy was over the top, like the hurting ex who can't bear to see his girl with another man. "

Just what did he do that was "over the top"? He got a sad look on his face? How strange is that?

So he dated other women when he wasn't with Penny. In what way does that make him a low life? Should he wait in his apartment for her to change her mind and decide that she wanted to be with him or should he try to get on with his life even though if given a choice he would prefer to be with Penny? I can't remember ever hearing either a man or woman being criticized for seeing someone else when they aren't dating a person. That condemnation seems a bit strange to me.

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One of the things I like the most about the show, is that I think almost all the characters are very interesting and complex, and that they have multiple layers. I think there's nothing wrong with trying to dissect them, the situations they go through and the fans response to them, and which could be the reasons behind that response.

I completely agree.

The reason I'm not trying to say anything on the topic of this thread, by the way, is because I really feel it's no use. Shippers won't be argued with. :icon_confused:

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You won't???

You DID!

Trust me, honey, I DIDN'T. :icon_lol:

I just gave sarah a tiny teeny taste of a HINT of what can be done if she really wanted to get into "analyzing" the fans instead of the show. I didn't even scratch the surface. There're plenty of highly insulting insinuations I could easily come up with about Lenny fans, (or about any fan of any character), and call it "my personal observations". :icon_twisted:

There's a reason for a wise and useful rule when participating in TV discussion boards - analyze the show, don't analyze each other. Why? Because making assumptions about lives and motivations of unfamiliar people behind the screen is both very rude and very stupid. :icon_wink:


I think there's nothing wrong with trying to dissect them, the situations they go through and the fans response to them, and which could be the reasons behind that response.

*sigh* Here we go again...

Sarah, the simple truth is that you can never know what is the reason behind someone's response to a TV show. You don't know any of the people behind the screen.

It's very easy to fill in the blanks and "explain" to yourself someone else's reasons - and it's even easier to make a mistake, because we're all wired differently, you are not them, and you have no idea why those other people think and react the way they do.

You can only make assumptions about others, but if you do, you'll just make an ass out of yourself in the process. It's pointless and stupid.

Lets stick to analyzing the show.

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I can't remember ever hearing either a man or woman being criticized for seeing someone else when they aren't dating a person. That condemnation seems a bit strange to me.

For some reason, Leonard receives condemnation for practically every thing he does. For clinging over Penny/for forgetting her "too fast", for being assertive/for being spineless, for idolizing her/for being aware of her faults.

The man just can't catch a break.

Amy is teaching Sheldon what is involved in a relationship. Yes it is a long hard slog, but she is teaching a man who has no real understanding of social relationships (hardly surprising). She is getting through to him and he is growing as a result. The concept of a relationship between him and Penny is as I and others have mentioned, a long way into the future. When both have grown a lot and Leonard has moved on yet again to another woman.

In my opinion, there are a couple weak spots in this master plan (apart of consiciously ignoring everything the blatant incompatibility that IMO, exist between the characters in question)

I mean, even evil!Leonard gets a chance with another woman here, but what about Amy?

First of all, she has feelings too, she has feelings for Sheldon that won't dissapear overnight, and we can't call her exactly a "teacher", she is learning as well, she is equally unexperienced as Sheldon.

Second, we could say Sheldon is "growing", yes, but not in a general sense. I interpret this statement as the notion of Amy being kind of a "bridge" between the old Sheldon and something else.

I beg to disagree. If this were the intention, the "bridge-girl" would be very different to Amy, something closer to what supposedly will come next, she wouldn't be as compatible as she is with him, and they won't let Sheldon develop such an strong bond with her just to dispatch her afterwards.

To make it short: She would be just a plot device, not a full-developed character as she is, she would be more like Priya.

As I see it, Sheldon is adjusting himself to be in a relationship WITH Amy, not to any kind of relationship. What they have works for them and only for them. They are a "couple of weirdos" and will always be.

Chuck Lorre himself have said it in some interview, that they created ShAmy as a response for those who asked how would be a romantic relationship for a character as unique as Sheldon, he said something along the lines of "whether you like it or not, that's THE relationship for him".

I completely agree.

The reason I'm not trying to say anything on the topic of this thread, by the way, is because I really feel it's no use. Shippers won't be argued with. :icon_confused:

Believe Pomita, your words and actions are very, very wise. :icon_wink:

Wich leads me to:

@BigBang

I thought you had already smashed me up?

But ok, two things:

1. For someone who is calling people off out of rudeness and asking for order and respect, I see you are quite prone to throw away a handfull of "stupid" and "ass" here and there :icon_wink:

2. If I recall correctly, the only thing I did was to ask a couple questions. I didn't address YOU directly or anybody else in this board You were the one who decided to take it personal and become terribly offended (in fact, none else responded to the questions) and accuse me and try to lecture me about what I must do and what not, and to "hint me" and teach me what is the "simple truth".

I was not conducting a formal research and my intention was never to maliciously claim all your fellow shippers are vain and shallow people who just like to drool for a particular actor looks (and, BTW, the man is deliciously cute, why the big offense?, you said it yourself, it's is simple Biology :icon_wink:) If you are taking it that way and are reacting accordingly, well, sorry, but it's your decision. If you don't have reasons to feel alluded, well, just ignore it and peace for everyone, ok?

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How does one 'feel' alluded? One may feel alluded to, as it is an indirect reference.

Also what the heck is adecuate or renegated? I have google both words and come up blank. I like to think I have a fairly good command of the English language but you have stumped me a couple of times Sarah.

Never mind, we are not supposed to be directing our posts at other members just at the thread topic. Although an awful lot of poster bashing goes on around here.

I honestly can't see Amy being a permanent character in the show, but who knows unlike other people I cannot use such iron tight conviction that leads them to repeatedly saying, 'never, ever happen!'. As a wise man once said the only certainties in this life are death and taxes. In my personal experience everything else is changeable and at times messy.

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Also what the heck is adecuate or renegated? I have google both words and come up blank. I like to think I have a fairly good command of the English language but you have stumped me a couple of times Sarah.

Adequate and relegate.

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The reason I'm not trying to say anything on the topic of this thread, by the way, is because I really feel it's no use. Shippers won't be argued with. :icon_confused:

But is is our duty to witness to those who don't believe. We must bring them to the light of truth. How else will they be saved?

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You won't???

You DID!

Trust me, honey, I DIDN'T. :icon_lol:

I just gave sarah a tiny teeny taste of a HINT of what can be done if she really wanted to get into "analyzing" the fans instead of the show. I didn't even scratch the surface. There're plenty of highly insulting insinuations I could easily come up with about Lenny fans, (or about any fan of any character), and call it "my personal observations". :icon_twisted:

There's a reason for a wise and useful rule when participating in TV discussion boards - analyze the show, don't analyze each other. Why? Because making assumptions about lives and motivations of unfamiliar people behind the screen is both very rude and very stupid. :icon_wink:


I think there's nothing wrong with trying to dissect them, the situations they go through and the fans response to them, and which could be the reasons behind that response.

*sigh* Here we go again...

Sarah, the simple truth is that you can never know what is the reason behind someone's response to a TV show. You don't know any of the people behind the screen.

It's very easy to fill in the blanks and "explain" to yourself someone else's reasons - and it's even easier to make a mistake, because we're all wired differently, you are not them, and you have no idea why those other people think and react the way they do.

You can only make assumptions about others, but if you do, you'll just make an ass out of yourself in the process. It's pointless and stupid.

Lets stick to analyzing the show.

Honey, it would appear that you did, as have I in the past.

Here is a quote from one of your previous posts:

"

Love is blind. Sometimes, when fans become enamoured of a TV character, they become completely blind and deaf to any of his shortcomings. They remind me of some blindly loving parents of a child - it doesn't matter what their child does, some parents will NEVER see it objectively, they refuse to recognize that he is not perfect. The child is the apple of their eyes and that's the end of it, he can never do no wrong Icon_wink and anyone who dares to criticize him is evil and should be destroyed.

It is what it is. Logic and rational arguments hold no water when people passionately feel something.

I wish it were as simple as explaining to each other our different points of view and learning to accept and live with disagreement...

However, what makes this whole "rabid fan" mess so tedious is the non-stop bickering and attacking of "the enemy". (And Rick should make no mistake - he and Slick are Sample Number One in that particular line of crazy fandom. Icon_lol)

When the fans become so completely and blindly enamoured of a character or a 'ship, they are no longer satisfied just to live in their happy little bubble of enjoying their favorite, instead they have to go out and attack - other fans are no longer just people with a different p.o.v., instead anyone disagreeing becomes The Enemy.

Anyway, my point is - in my experience, when fans reach the point of no return in their worship of a character, it becomes quite useless to talk to them rationally. It's not about logic, it's about LOVE and HATE. It's quite fascinating to watch. Icon_lo"

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Everything that you said, can be said of you.

Sheldon may be a genius, but he it is very obvious that he is without a doubt the most emotionally stunted individual on the show. Although it is almost never addressed by the "Sheldonites", as a matter of fact I can't recall them EVER saying anything about it, I point out the episode where Penny took Sheldon to Disneyland. His behavior was that of a child while Penny and Leonard played the role of his parents. Having Penny go out with him after that scene would be both bizarre and troubling. I will go so far as to say that it would border on the perverse.

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the only thing I did was to ask a couple questions. I didn't address YOU directly or anybody else in this board You were the one who decided to take it personal and become terribly offended (in fact, none else responded to the questions) and accuse me and try to lecture me about what I must do and what not, and to "hint me" and teach me what is the "simple truth".

@sarah7 - LOL, it's you who are getting terribly offended here, honey. :icon_lol:

All I did was 1) point out (very gently) that the customary internet etuquette limits the psychological analysis to the show and 2) demonstrate (also very gently) why is it that analyzing fellow posters is something we should all refrain from doing.

Since you're taking such an offense to this simple and kind suggestion, I take it the lesson went right over your head? :icon_wink:


But is is our duty to witness to those who don't believe. We must bring them to the light of truth. How else will they be saved?

The best. post. ever. on the subject of shipping. :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:


Sheldon may be a genius, but he it is very obvious that he is without a doubt the most emotionally stunted individual on the show. Although it is almost never addressed by the "Sheldonites", as a matter of fact I can't recall them EVER saying anything about it

Rick, just because YOU can't recall it, doesn't mean it's true. You have very selective memory where your "Shenny enemies" are concerned. :icon_lol:

I called Sheldon, among other things, "emotionally stunted", "socially retarded", "clueless", "completely lacking emotional intelligence" (which can be taught be Penny, btw), etc. etc...

So what? That's why I like the character! For me, it's an interesing story, to watch someone like Sheldon grow up and aquire those basic social skills and emotional self-awareness of which he was completely deprived when we first met him.

I wrote about this before. I knew a real life Sheldon. A true bona fide genius. He was a scientific genius with an emotional mind of a small child.

It was a tragic story. He died because he was so UNFIT for real life due to his stunted emotional/social development. I want a better end for Sheldon.

That's what attracted me to the show. I know Sheldon's shortcomings all too well, and I want him to overcome them, because however funny these shortcomings are to watch in a comedy, in real life they destroy and kill.

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Guest I'm not dead Cheryl

@BigBang wasn't you the one who created a thread discussing the personality types to match them with the preferred fictional pairings, as an attempt of a quick psychological analysis of shipping? http://forum.the-big-bang-theory.com/thread-2466.html

yes, it was you, and yet, Sarah here posts a couple of questions and she is chastised for, not even directly, daring to try to understand the reasons behind some people's preferences.

I guess the huge crime of ignoring the "internet etiquette that limits the psychological analysis to the show" applies to Sarah but not you?

@Sarah7 Your posts were great, and I must say I agree with most of your points wholeheartedly.

But it is pointless to argue with some people. Believe me, I learnt it the hard way. Some people just won't see it. but, paraphrasing Sheldon "whether they see it or not, is irrelevant".

As everyone here knows, I don't see what's at all appealing to want to see a Sheldon/Penny romantic relationship but some people will want to see it anyway, for whateaver reason. That's why there is so much fanfiction around. I recommend the Shenny's to have their fix there. A lot of posters here would love it. Here's what most of them look like: Penny wakes up one day and realizes that she has been in love with Sheldon all along, and then tells Sheldon about it and he realizes that he is in love with her as well... then.. a lot of the times, the writers just kill Leonard, or send him to another State or just pair him up overnight with Amy out of nowhere, thus, clearing the field for Shenny wild lovemaking on the laundryroom. In all honesty, there are good ones, but the overview above does come up a lot.

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the only thing I did was to ask a couple questions. I didn't address YOU directly or anybody else in this board You were the one who decided to take it personal and become terribly offended (in fact, none else responded to the questions) and accuse me and try to lecture me about what I must do and what not, and to "hint me" and teach me what is the "simple truth".

@sarah7 - LOL, it's you who are getting terribly offended here, honey. :icon_lol:

All I did was 1) point out (very gently) that the customary internet etuquette limits the psychological analysis to the show and 2) demonstrate (also very gently) why is it that analyzing fellow posters is something we should all refrain from doing.

Since you're taking such an offense to this simple and kind suggestion, I take it the lesson went right over your head? :icon_wink:


But is is our duty to witness to those who don't believe. We must bring them to the light of truth. How else will they be saved?

The best. post. ever. on the subject of shipping. :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:


Sheldon may be a genius, but he it is very obvious that he is without a doubt the most emotionally stunted individual on the show. Although it is almost never addressed by the "Sheldonites", as a matter of fact I can't recall them EVER saying anything about it

Rick, just because YOU can't recall it, doesn't mean it's true. You have very selective memory where your "Shenny enemies" are concerned. :icon_lol:

I called Sheldon, among other things, "emotionally stunted", "socially retarded", "clueless", "completely lacking emotional intelligence" (which can be taught be Penny, btw), etc. etc...

So what? That's why I like the character! For me, it's an interesing story, to watch someone like Sheldon grow up and aquire those basic social skills and emotional self-awareness of which he was completely deprived when we first met him.

I wrote about this before. I knew a real life Sheldon. A true bona fide genius. He was a scientific genius with an emotional mind of a small child.

It was a tragic story. He died because he was so UNFIT for real life due to his stunted emotional/social development. I want a better end for Sheldon.

That's what attracted me to the show. I know Sheldon's shortcomings all too well, and I want him to overcome them, because however funny these shortcomings are to watch in a comedy, in real life they destroy and kill.

Just a point of fact. You seem to have taken my statement out of context. I was speaking about how many people continuously ignore the scene where Penny has returned from taking Sheldon to Disneyland, how he acted, how she and Leonard acted, and why Sheldon and Penny going out would be bizarre and borderline perverse because Sheldon acted like a small child and Leonard and Penny acted like his parents. That was the main point of that part of my statement but somehow that part was ignored. I suppose that more or less validates my total post.

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