BlackWhiteRose Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 No it was just a statement that this interview is not new thats all (my opinion). I know that Kaley didn`t change her mind about Shenny and she never will and I´m very glad about it ´cause I agree with her, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickfromillinois Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 No it was just a statement that this interview is not new thats all (my opinion). I know that Kaley didn`t change her mind about Shenny and she never will and I´m very glad about it ´cause I agree with her, Sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. I will try to be more careful next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Pollard Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 This does hit on the fundamental reason why Shenny would never work: neither of them thinks highly about the other in the areas that matter to them. Sheldon has stated over and over again how he does not think much of Penny's intelligence, and as we know, intelligence is high up on (if not at the top of) Sheldon's "this is important to me" list. He would have absolutely no patience for Penny's comparative lack of intelligence. On the flip side, Penny has made no bones of the fact that she isn't impressed by Sheldon's lack of empathy and feelings towards others. With Penny being an emotional person, dealing with Sheldon would be a nightmare for her. About the only way Shenny would work is if both of the characters underwent radical changes, the result being that they would no longer be the characters we currently know. Given all of this, why anyone thinks that Shenny would work (or even be desirable) is beyond comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I'd say "wishes for" or "believes". It's then not in an arguable space. Lots of precedent for that. Otherwise it's a thought experiment with no practical means of experimental validation. Very moo. Or it's this thread is a merry-go-round or razzed-dazzle. Round and round and entertaining. Lol. I'm dizzy. Hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangerMain Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) This does hit on the fundamental reason why Shenny would never work: neither of them thinks highly about the other in the areas that matter to them. Sheldon has stated over and over again how he does not think much of Penny's intelligence, and as we know, intelligence is high up on (if not at the top of) Sheldon's "this is important to me" list. He would have absolutely no patience for Penny's comparative lack of intelligence. On the flip side, Penny has made no bones of the fact that she isn't impressed by Sheldon's lack of empathy and feelings towards others. With Penny being an emotional person, dealing with Sheldon would be a nightmare for her. About the only way Shenny would work is if both of the characters underwent radical changes, the result being that they would no longer be the characters we currently know. Given all of this, why anyone thinks that Shenny would work (or even be desirable) is beyond comprehension. You have just given the reason that I consider it a waste of time to argue about "Shenny". While Lenny, Howdette and Shamy are "real world" 'ships, Shenny only works in an alternate universe of the show. The other relationships are fed by the shows creators, we see them functioning, to various degrees, on the screen every week during the season. Shenny is imaginary. The show's creative contributors; producers, writers and actors have come right out and said as much, which is rare in the TV world. Shenny belief is harmless and should not be viewed as vile or upsetting. Since it is not "real" in the shows plane of existence, it has no mass or gravity, it effects the show in no way and the powers that be don't even address it anymore. They have their plan and it is extraordinarily successful, so they are happy to pursuit the path that they are on. Edited July 11, 2013 by BangerMain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Practically, true. But if one allows the characters existence on screen, don't those same characters have the same existence in any other fiction and then any bad acts read have the same emotional impact as those that might be viewed? The response is equivalent in any manifestation. The text is a substitute after all. So when some fiction implies that Penny needs medication to cope with living with Leonard then an identical response is invoked in the reader as would be if they viewed it. ... I'm such a conformist, it turns out. This is probably old hat to the longer involved. At least we will never see, except by some shark jumping phantasmagoric event, Penny going out with Sheldon for romance. ...and I push the razzle-dazzle again. lol Edited July 11, 2013 by DogBoy (p.t.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangerMain Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Practically, true. But if one allows the characters existence on screen, don't those same characters have the same existence in any other fiction and then any bad acts read have the same emotional impact as those that might be viewed? The response is equivalent in any manifestation. The text is a substitute after all. So when some fiction implies that Penny needs medication to cope with living with Leonard then an identical response is invoked in the reader as would be if they viewed it. As you so elegrantly put it: "it's a thought experiment with no practical means of experimental validation". What a reader of fan fiction imagines, effects only them. Most of the other 20 million viewers are getting their experimental validation from a group of people in Burbank CA, USA who create TBBT. It's their bus and we are along for the ride. If they decide to drive us to Topeka Kansas, we are free to imagine we are in Miami. But at the end of the ride, we are still in Topeka. Edited July 11, 2013 by BangerMain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Now I want them to drive the bus to Nebraska. Sheldon and Penny going out on a road trip. Oh, the hilarity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackWhiteRose Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 *LOL* I love that idea with the road trip. Could be funny :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickfromillinois Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Why would Penny and Sheldon go on a road trip together, especially to Nebraska, which is a state that Sheldon has nothing but contempt for? I could see Leonard going with Penny to Nebraska to meet her family, He' her boyfriend and she loves him. I would seem only natural for them to meet each other's entire family. As for the humorous aspects of Penny and Sheldon going alone on a road trip, that wouldn't last long enough for them to get out of the city. Penny would throw Sheldon out of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbase Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Cbolt stated that Penny was a goddess many times, and he literally believed that she could do nothing wrong. That is not an exageration. He also felt that Leonard could not do anything right. Literally. I came to the conclusion that he had a crush on Penny and was insanely jealous of anyone she got close to. He was the King of the Shennys and yes, big Kaley fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbangsheldon Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Would the real slick shady please stand up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) Why would Penny and Sheldon go on a road trip together, especially to Nebraska, which is a state that Sheldon has nothing but contempt for? I could see Leonard going with Penny to Nebraska to meet her family, He' her boyfriend and she loves him. I would seem only natural for them to meet each other's entire family. As for the humorous aspects of Penny and Sheldon going alone on a road trip, that wouldn't last long enough for them to get out of the city. Penny would throw Sheldon out of the car. the presence of Leonard and the rest of the cohort was in my head, but not expressed. I regret the omission, but I was thinking of the whole busload. It was maybe not a well shaped thought but just following up on the prior post's bus metaphor and then making it concrete. Leonard and Penny would be in the bus and some circumstance would require Sheldon's presence. It would be a situation from which comedy might arise. If they were together without Leonard it would be a rehash of an aspect the Adhesive Ducks story, which was funny too. I understand your point and concern but I only saw comedic potential from the tensions to which you allude. There would be no natural reason for Penny and Sheldon to be in the bus together. Hence, hilarity. Edited July 13, 2013 by DogBoy (p.t.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazingapunk Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I think their personalities are WAY too different to ever make it work & tbh, I think the show will go downhill if the writers do write them as a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wammyguide Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Sheldon and Penny as a couple, in my opinion, would be one of the biggest mistakes in the history of television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Pollard Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Sheldon and Penny as a couple, in my opinion, would be one of the biggest mistakes in the history of television. Bigger than Cop Rock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Why is this Sheldon Penny dating thing still rearing its ugly head, Penny has made it clear so many times she has no desire to date Sheldon at all, it is a maternal brother sister relationship always has been always well be. And besides they would never work as a couple, have you seen the amount of times Penny in the morning had to drive him to work, and how many times has Penny thrown him out of the car for being well you know Sheldon lol, now imagine that scenario as a couple, they wouldent last that whole car drive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickfromillinois Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 All you have to do is watch some episodes to decide that Sheldon and Penny being a couple is a terrible idea...Penny taking Sheldon to Disney Land and how she treated him like a small child and he acted towards her like she was his mother when they returned. Her absolute shock that Sheldon had a girlfriend when she found out about Amy. His aversion to germs and his repeated belitteling of her for her promiscuity, or at least his perception of it. There are example after example of why they would never be a couple. If Howard didn't have Bernadette I could see Penny hooking up with him before Sheldon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaced_up Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I thought that Disney episode was just very silly, Sheldon is not 5 years old. It was awful!!!! As for Penny feeling maternal towards Sheldon, that is something I always feel towards my partners. Not in a creepy way but when you love someone, you want to take care of them. It just comes out naturally. I don't think it's that unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yeah get that but its maternal as almost the way a brother and sister would interact, you know been at each others throats for years affectinaly lol. Their hasent been any real touching moments just like the above said, Penny has always been shocked by the idea of Sheldon having a girfriend so cant see her even hypothetically considering it, I agree that Howards even more realistic lol, but Shenny have had tons of comefic moments in the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaced_up Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yeah get that but its maternal as almost the way a brother and sister would interact, you know been at each others throats for years affectinaly lol. Their hasent been any real touching moments just like the above said, Penny has always been shocked by the idea of Sheldon having a girfriend so cant see her even hypothetically considering it, I agree that Howards even more realistic lol, but Shenny have had tons of comefic moments in the show. Sheldon and Penny are not brother and sister no matter how many times people use the words. They just aren't. The writers wanted to write Lenny, they had to make a choice, they can't do both. It doesn't mean it wouldn't have made for a great show though. Penny has only had one episode with Howard and it was pretty average imo. His scenes with Raj are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackWhiteRose Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Thats what I can only say about this thread here: Edited August 13, 2013 by BlackWhiteRose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wammyguide Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Bigger than Cop Rock? I said one of the biggest mistakes, not THE biggest mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickfromillinois Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I thought that Disney episode was just very silly, Sheldon is not 5 years old. It was awful!!!! As for Penny feeling maternal towards Sheldon, that is something I always feel towards my partners. Not in a creepy way but when you love someone, you want to take care of them. It just comes out naturally. I don't think it's that unusual. Whether you found it creepy or not, it was how TPTB presented it to us. As for how you treat your partners, if my wife tried to treat me like her child we would be looking for new spouses, if it were to the extent that Penny took it. If a woman wants a child she should have one, not marry one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Bigger than Cop Rock? Hey I liked Cop Rock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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