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I don't like this "new" Sheldon, humanizing him is ruining his character for me. Sheldon is a man of science, not someone's snuggle bunny and that's what's making him interesting and unique.

I know people change overtime, but this isn't real life, this is a sitcom, and sitcoms don't need to resemble real life situations all the time. But the majority of fans disagree and want change, so change we will get.

I'm very curious about what the fans who are pro-change will think of Sheldon after his transformation. There won't be a way back, guys.

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FYI, you Shamy Shippers should know that the lollypop guild is currently in a paroxysm of joy over the events between Amy and Sheldon at the latest taping.

No more masturbating for money for Sheldon.

Aaaah, I'd like to know more about that! But I understand that while I don't mind being spoiled, other people do. Could you send me a private message?

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I don't like this "new" Sheldon, humanizing him is ruining his character for me. Sheldon is a man of science, not someone's snuggle bunny and that's what's making him interesting and unique.

I know people change overtime, but this isn't real life, this is a sitcom, and sitcoms don't need to resemble real life situations all the time. But the majority of fans disagree and want change, so change we will get.

I'm very curious about what the fans who are pro-change will think of Sheldon and the show after his transformation. There's no way back.

I competely agree but it appears the writers are determined to change him. It's why most great sitcoms eventually jump the shark. The writers forget what made the show great.

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I thoroughly enjoyed both reruns tonight. Two examples of awesome season 5 episodes!

very much agree. i thought bernadette:icon_lol:

was great in the first one, hope the

wedding does go on.(not season#6).

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I don't like this "new" Sheldon, humanizing him is ruining his character for me. Sheldon is a man of science, not someone's snuggle bunny and that's what's making him interesting and unique.

The "snuggle bunny" part is a nice thing because it's creating all the hilarious scenes in the show. Without it, it will get really boring.

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I don't like this "new" Sheldon, humanizing him is ruining his character for me. Sheldon is a man of science, not someone's snuggle bunny and that's what's making him interesting and unique.

The "snuggle bunny" part is a nice thing because it's creating all the hilarious scenes in the show. Without it, it will get really boring.

It's funny just hearing Sheldon use those words, where did hear get it from? Amy? :icon_lol:

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has sheldon said snuggle bunny? when?

It's the quote Stephanie was referencing from 5.08 The Isolation Permutation. He does his best but he's no snuggler…. to put it mildly. He says it when he's telling the guys to 'get their women in line'

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Sheldon is a scientist but he is also human, and as such he does have emotions. I think it is funny to see someone who likes to model himself after the all so logical Spock trying to deal with his human emotions and social contact. If he was nothing but a scientist you wouldn't see him going to the comic book store, playing video or any other type of games, trains, or engaging in paint ball mock wars. He would spend all of his waking time working on scientific matters. He has never been portrayed as that type of person.

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Ramona tried to make Sheldon into a 'pure' scientist. She tried to eliminate all of his other interests. He was miserable.

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Ramona tried to make Sheldon into a 'pure' scientist. She tried to eliminate all of his other interests. He was miserable.

Yes he was, but he was more productive. =)

Sheldon is most definitely emotional. He likes his games, and toys, and loves his work. He's also aware of how being in a good mindset can make you more productive. He knows how to tweak or min/max his mental energy and cognitive capacity, it's why he eventually goes to bed when Bernadette tells him his cognitive ability is hindered by lack of sleep. Part of that is engaging in pleasureable hobbies. He has many hobbies, just one of his hobbies is not dating. I've never thought he was emotionless. In fact, he might even be the most emotional character on the show. He just isn't interested in dating.

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has sheldon said snuggle bunny? when?

It's the quote Stephanie was referencing from 5.08 The Isolation Permutation. He does his best but he's no snuggler…. to put it mildly. He says it when he's telling the guys to 'get their women in line'

Okay thanks. I love the snuggling scene! I didn't realize he said that later.

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Ramona tried to make Sheldon into a 'pure' scientist. She tried to eliminate all of his other interests. He was miserable.

Yikes, she was a nutbar. He seems to be easily manipulated by women. They just need to tell him what to do, or baby him. Maybe that's why he decided to stick with Amy, she's absolutely hopeless at it.

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Ramona tried to make Sheldon into a 'pure' scientist. She tried to eliminate all of his other interests. He was miserable.

Yikes, she was a nutbar. He seems to be easily manipulated by women. They just need to tell him what to do, or baby him. Maybe that's why he decided to stick with Amy, she's absolutely hopeless at it.

That's a good point. I posted on another thread that it seems like amy needed to become more nurturing like sheldon's mom and penny, but maybe that is the reason why he likes her, because she is not that way.

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Ramona tried to make Sheldon into a 'pure' scientist. She tried to eliminate all of his other interests. He was miserable.

Yikes, she was a nutbar. He seems to be easily manipulated by women. They just need to tell him what to do, or baby him. Maybe that's why he decided to stick with Amy, she's absolutely hopeless at it.

That's a good point. I posted on another thread that it seems like amy needed to become more nurturing like sheldon's mom and penny, but maybe that is the reason why he likes her, because she is not that way.

Sheldon can be manipulated by anyone who takes a dominant role to him. He reacted just as childishly with Leonard when he told him to go to bed and stop playing Zork, with a whiney "5 more minuuuuutes".

He likes Amy because she was a fem-sheldon. But unlike Sheldon, Amy wanted a social life and friends and dating, but faced rejection throughout her life. If she could have had Penny's life growing up, she would have. She was Sheldon-esque out of circumstance, not so much desire. Sheldon would not want to be anyone other than Sheldon.

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Interesting points. I agree with the OP and Sursonica. In many ways, the storyline of the show is all about the slow personal evolution of Sheldon (the other characters too, but him more than anyone).

They made that clear very early on, when they showed baby steps like Sheldon's first attempt at a joke in season 2 episode 1, or the genesis of 'Bazinga' at the end of season 2, or the gradual development of his unexpected friendship relation with Penny. Most of all, the flashback in season 3 told us that Sheldon was MUCH more socially awkward and personally boxed-in when he first met Leonard.. those brilliant correlations of the sparse furniture and the slight modification of his 'spot' dialogue in the span of 3 years (which I hope everyone noticed?). Even in the unrecorded past, he moved a certain distance socially and emotionally, and it was because of his first friends.

So it's not just season 5 and Amy which are bringing out new changes in him. She's a major catalyst, but the personal growth and new experiences resulting from their relationship are just part of his journey. So much of what he's going through at present is even apparently unrelated to her - the catharsis of his ornithophobia, learning that nothing terrible happens when his routine is broken, getting a lecture about his human side from his unconscious mind disguised as Spock - and they might all be leading up, through hints and gestures, to a more active realization of his capacity for human attachment.

I find the process fascinating. Yes, certainly more fascinating than just watching Sheldon sitting in his spot eating take-out and whining about the correct condiments over several years. I'm sure he'll continue to do that too, but at least his characterization has increasing depth and complexity. Among other things, it does keep Jim Parsons interested in what he's doing, and that's crucial to the show!

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@ SydNC

Sheldon the narcissist? Well that sounds right. :icon_cheesygrin:

That's the thing I couldn't figure out about about Amy at first. She wanted social contact, so could she have turned out differently if she'd had friends? 

My guess is its unlikely, because her peer group found her too weird. So its a chicken/egg kind of deal. I don't think Amy would ever have been socialised. 

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Interesting points. I agree with the OP and Sursonica. In many ways, the storyline of the show is all about the slow personal evolution of Sheldon (the other characters too, but him more than anyone).

They made that clear very early on, when they showed baby steps like Sheldon's first attempt at a joke in season 2 episode 1, or the genesis of 'Bazinga' at the end of season 2, or the gradual development of his unexpected friendship relation with Penny. Most of all, the flashback in season 3 told us that Sheldon was MUCH more socially awkward and personally boxed-in when he first met Leonard.. those brilliant correlations of the sparse furniture and the slight modification of his 'spot' dialogue in the span of 3 years (which I hope everyone noticed?). Even in the unrecorded past, he moved a certain distance socially and emotionally, and it was because of his first friends.

So it's not just season 5 and Amy which are bringing out new changes in him. She's a major catalyst, but the personal growth and new experiences resulting from their relationship are just part of his journey. So much of what he's going through at present is even apparently unrelated to her - the catharsis of his ornithophobia, learning that nothing terrible happens when his routine is broken, getting a lecture about his human side from his unconscious mind disguised as Spock - and they might all be leading up, through hints and gestures, to a more active realization of his capacity for human attachment.

I find the process fascinating. Yes, certainly more fascinating than just watching Sheldon sitting in his spot eating take-out and whining about the correct condiments over several years. I'm sure he'll continue to do that too, but at least his characterization has increasing depth and complexity. Among other things, it does keep Jim Parsons interested in what he's doing, and that's crucial to the show!

i agree with all of this. wonderful post.

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