tmp Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I don't think Sheldon's a rotten boyfriend per say. I think the problem is that Sheldon was the perfect boyfriend for the original Amy. The problem is that Amy was the way she was because of circumstances, Sheldon is the way he is because he likes it that way. I don't want to jump into the usual debate. However, I'll say that he used to like it that way, but IMO he's showing signs that he likes Amy more. He seems to want to be a good boyfriend to her even though it's not easy for him. Recently he indicated that he knows he has a hang-up about the physical and wants to overcome it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 @tmp, @eirwinrommel. I'm torn. Assuming the characters make choice, any choice can be valid. But, when the characterisations change I find that the newest characterisation is making choices that would not be consistent with the old characterisation. A sports analogy; are they moving the goal posts or are they becoming better players? The latter is organic growth, the former is creative development to chase the commercial outcome. Another analogy; are they mining to find more of what was there or manufacturing what was not. I too don't want to flame any old debates, but im sort of hoping this is abstract and applicable enough to be useful. I suppose it boils down to how invested one is, which is a bit circular and resolves nothing. And now Im out on character changes. Back to work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJistheBOMB Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I don't know if they'll use this version or not but one of my favorite parts is when the 3 girls go to see Sheldon in the laundry room to ask him what was in the letter that Howard burned and never saw. After they enter, Sheldon says, "What can I do for you ladies?" Penny says, "Sheldon, you have something we want." Sheldon says, "Ohhh, boy. Mama said stuff like this happens to pretty boys in the big city." LMAO!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiru Breezy Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 True, but then they'll all use the human shield thing to bolster their argument that Sheldon is a rotten boyfriend. I hope that this episode will please the people that think Sheldon is no longer like the old Sheldon, cos it seems like a great big dose of OCD Sheldon in this one True, but then they'll all use the human shield thing to bolster their argument that Sheldon is a rotten boyfriend. Quit letting the haters ruin your thought process or how you enjoy you show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Quit letting the haters ruin your thought process or how you enjoy you show. I agree. What makes me the maddest is that they're in my head. I don't agree with them at all. I find tremendous sweetness in the way the S/A relationship is moving slowly. It's fun because it's the 100% opposite of my own relationship. My husband and I were talking marriage within a week of our first official date, and we're disgustingly lovey-dovey--always holding hands still six years later. I am a romantic and I must confess, the Shamy taps into it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiru Breezy Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I agree. What makes me the maddest is that they're in my head. I don't agree with them at all. I find tremendous sweetness in the way the S/A relationship is moving slowly. It's fun because it's the 100% opposite of my own relationship. My husband and I were talking marriage within a week of our first official date, and we're disgustingly lovey-dovey--always holding hands still six years later. I am a romantic and I must confess, the Shamy taps into it. Get them out then. Hate is ugly and useless. My relationship is also NOTHING like S/A but I find it poignant...so haters can find the tallest cliff and jump off for all I care....I love my show and my ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibid Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Thanks for the taping report Monique and Kyzzx! I'm glad there's a Howard focused episode. He's a great actor and I always thought he had the most range on the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Appropos of nothing, sometimes its just reflection. Hate oppression and exploitation. Express views about construction of tv shows. Not the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiru Breezy Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Appropos of nothing, sometimes its just reflection. Hate oppression and exploitation. Express views about construction of tv shows. Not the same thing. Hate is Hate. Directed at real life or fiction. Its just nasty. But as I said : Haters. Cliff. Jump. :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Get them out then. Hate is ugly and useless. My relationship is also NOTHING like S/A but I find it poignant...so haters can find the tallest cliff and jump off for all I care....I love my show and my ship. Thanks. I'm having a really hard day (and week), and I appreciate the encouragement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Hate is Hate. Directed at real life or fiction. Its just nasty. But as I said : Haters. Cliff. Jump. :-) Nice. Thank you. A little disproportionate perhaps. But very direct. Not much room for spin there. I choose otherwise however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasu Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Hate is Hate. Directed at real life or fiction. Its just nasty. But as I said : Haters. Cliff. Jump. :-) You hate Penny right.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Awkward, much? Moving on. Edited February 28, 2013 by Llatasativargon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eirwinrommel Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) @tmp, @eirwinrommel. I'm torn. Assuming the characters make choice, any choice can be valid. But, when the characterisations change I find that the newest characterisation is making choices that would not be consistent with the old characterisation. A sports analogy; are they moving the goal posts or are they becoming better players? The latter is organic growth, the former is creative development to chase the commercial outcome. Another analogy; are they mining to find more of what was there or manufacturing what was not. I too don't want to flame any old debates, but im sort of hoping this is abstract and applicable enough to be useful. I suppose it boils down to how invested one is, which is a bit circular and resolves nothing. And now Im out on character changes. Back to work. I find the changes in Amy to be organic. She's just becoming the Amy she probably would have been if she'd had friends when she was younger. Shedon's changes are mainly made in response to Amy's prodding and insistence, and not because he sees a need to or has a desire to change. Edited February 28, 2013 by eirwinrommel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I find the changes in Amy to be organic. She's just becoming the Amy she probably would have been if she'd had friends when she was younger. Shedon's changes are mainly made in response to Amy's prodding and insistence, and not because he sees a need to or has a desire to change. I can see that for Amy. I can get the girl crush on Penny. Sheldon's changes are certainly not intrinisic. Which raises the question of choice. I'm going to discuss this elsewhere, because of i. Incivility b. I don't want to make anyones day worse. Its not meant to be that sort of spoiler thread. cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I find the changes in Amy to be organic. She's just becoming the Amy she probably would have been if she'd had friends when she was younger. Shedon's changes are mainly made in response to Amy's prodding and insistence, and not because he sees a need to or has a desire to change. I think he is trying to change because he wants to. It seems that he's working on his touch issues not because Amy or anyone else has asked him to change, but apparently because he wants to be able to physically express his affection toward her. I think that all of the characters have exerted change on each other over the years and that's been part of the premise of the show from the beginning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I can see that for Amy. I can get the girl crush on Penny. Sheldon's changes are certainly not intrinisic. Which raises the question of choice. I'm going to discuss this elsewhere, because of i. Incivility b. I don't want to make anyones day worse. Its not meant to be that sort of spoiler thread. cheers Oh let me hug you. I wish everyone had your attitude That's the thing that annoys me right now, I don't care if people have negative opinions or even "hate" but I hate that every thread is turned into that argument. I keep out of so many threads right now it's frustrating. I salute you for wanting to discuss this in a civilized manner/place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 Oh let me hug you. I wish everyone had your attitude That's the thing that annoys me right now, I don't care if people have negative opinions or even "hate" but I hate that every thread is turned into that argument. I keep out of so many threads right now it's frustrating. I salute you for wanting to discuss this in a civilized manner/place. <Icon:blush> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomita Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 I agree. What makes me the maddest is that they're in my head. I don't agree with them at all. I find tremendous sweetness in the way the S/A relationship is moving slowly. It's fun because it's the 100% opposite of my own relationship. My husband and I were talking marriage within a week of our first official date, and we're disgustingly lovey-dovey--always holding hands still six years later. I am a romantic and I must confess, the Shamy taps into it. Same here. I find S/A sweet and intriguing (I know many of us do), and it's also okay not to feel that way, but it's sad when every thread gets turned into a series of complaints trashing and belittling the relationship. I'm not an L/P shipper (I like them, I'm not crazy about them) but I choose not to comment about them, for the most part, because I know there are people here much more emotionally invested in them than I am. I appreciate the confidence shown by Kiru, and argon's grace in not contributing to the negativity. I don't know if they'll use this version or not but one of my favorite parts is when the 3 girls go to see Sheldon in the laundry room to ask him what was in the letter that Howard burned and never saw. After they enter, Sheldon says, "What can I do for you ladies?" Penny says, "Sheldon, you have something we want." Sheldon says, "Ohhh, boy. Mama said stuff like this happens to pretty boys in the big city." LMAO!!!! LOLOLOL so Sheldon agrees he's a pretty boy. I do hope they keep this take! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 is there a taping on tuesday? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razberrypie Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 is there a taping on tuesday? Yep! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 is there a taping on tuesday? The episode is called The Tenure Turbulence. Speculation is that it's probably either Leonard or Amy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) The episode is called The Tenure Turbulence. Speculation is that it's probably either Leonard or Amy. We've talked here of Penny losing her job and having Leonard moving in to help support her, but what if Leonard quits his job(a carryover of his dissatisfaction from The Contractual Obligation Implementation) Penny offers to let him move in. Yeah, I know it was only three or four episodes ago when she freaked about it. But, that was a surprise to her and this time she is the one offering. Edited March 3, 2013 by Tensor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 It just occurred to me... although it's the least likely scenario out of the possible ones, it could also be about Sheldon getting into trouble because of Alex. Hiring a grad assistant to pretty much only run your personal errands might be something the university is not very happy with, combined with the sexual harassement stuff from earlier this season. Although there have been several Sheldon-centric eps this season already and it does sound a bit too much like 6x12. If he didn't risk his tenure then, I doubt he would now. From the title though it doesn't sound like it's about a character choosing to quit their job, it sounds more to me like either there's an attempt to get tenure or a risk of losing tenure which causes some sort of turbulence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhalen565 Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 Maybe mrs Latham has put the word in for Leonard to receive tenure Sheldon would certainly not be happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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