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Okay, okay. Last question: Was the "trying to look at a road map" more intense than this?

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No, this was between takes.....nothing they will air. LOL. He was just hardcore looking her ass up and down and wasn't aware the camera was still on. The audience wad laughing so hard. Haha.

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One thing just popped in my mind. Has he been spending the night? Cause there's the bit where he says "Last night when you were sleeping..." Which also made me think back to the ep where they cuddle and the next day he talks about spooning, which is not what they were doing on the couch.... I'm wondering whether there are off-screen bed scenes that we haven't seen.

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While he's not thinking of any kind of sexual aspect in anything he's doing, it's important groundwork to prepare him for the natual physical aspects of their relationship whenever he finally figures it out. If he were to remain uncomfortable with touching her, I think it would be much harder for him to think about initiating a kiss or wanting to hold her hand for his own sake, etc.

I think this is basically what all this is about - getting him just physically 'comfortable' with her before he gets physically aroused in any way. It's a long road for Sheldon. Considered in that way, it makes sense. I admit to feeling almost reassured by the points you put forth, and by Kyzzx's description of the whole thing being played out innocently from Sheldon's side.

I am having a hard time envisioning the spanking scene -- them talking about it and the actual part where she gets in his lap.

I'm not a fan of spanking, so not really sure how I feel about this yet. I guess we will see how I feel when I watch it.

This is the point at which I'm still stuck, too. Phantagrae's explanation of it as a carry-over from his childhood experience of punishments seems reasonable, but for the life of me, I just can't imagine the scene till I see it! So I feel I'd better hold off on commenting about it till then.

LOL, I'm laughing so hard every time I think of Jim 'forming a road map' of Mayim's behind. :icon_lol: They're crazily adorable, the two of them.

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One thing just popped in my mind. Has he been spending the night? Cause there's the bit where he says "Last night when you were sleeping..." Which also made me think back to the ep where they cuddle and the next day he talks about spooning, which is not what they were doing on the couch.... I'm wondering whether there are off-screen bed scenes that we haven't seen.

I don't think he's spending the night. That would be a monumental step and given how rigid he is about his bedtime, his daily pajama rotation and his morning bathroom routine (in his own bathroom, mind you) as well as his breakfast schedule, I don't think he would even consider that at this stage.

I think the bit about the spooning was just his variation on "cuddling". Especialy since at the time of the cuddling, she wasn't even officially his girlfriend.

I think that Amy was sleeping while he was there during his normal "caretaking" time, not sleeping overnight.

As a matter of fact, in this past week's episode, Leonard makes a remark about Sheldon coming home after dark, "like a big boy", implying that it's unusual for SHeldon to be out that late.

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This sounds like a funny episode but they sure seem to be moving the Shamy relationship really fast. They mosd the H/B relationship along fast and now the S/A relationship is moving quickly along while the L/P relationship just goes stagnent again. The ILY in 6.08 seems to have been forgotten or purposely ignored, and they are having penny with a male friend in college and Alex for Leonard. I really think since the ILY was never really confirmed and they have added people for L and P, they are planning on screwing with the L/P relationship again.

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This sounds like a funny episode but they sure seem to be moving the Shamy relationship really fast. They mosd the H/B relationship along fast and now the S/A relationship is moving quickly along while the L/P relationship just goes stagnent again. The ILY in 6.08 seems to have been forgotten or purposely ignored, and they are having penny with a male friend in college and Alex for Leonard. I really think since the ILY was never really confirmed and they have added people for L and P, they are planning on screwing with the L/P relationship again.

I think they're just prolonging the sweet agony with L&P.

And if Sheldon's approach is all innocence (which it seems to be, based on Kyzzx's comments about how JP played those scenes), then they really aren't moving anywhere, no matter how much he touched her in this episode.

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I don't think he's spending the night. That would be a monumental step and given how rigid he is about his bedtime, his daily pajama rotation and his morning bathroom routine (in his own bathroom, mind you) as well as his breakfast schedule, I don't think he would even consider that at this stage.

I think the bit about the spooning was just his variation on "cuddling". Especialy since at the time of the cuddling, she wasn't even officially his girlfriend.

I think that Amy was sleeping while he was there during his normal "caretaking" time, not sleeping overnight.

As a matter of fact, in this past week's episode, Leonard makes a remark about Sheldon coming home after dark, "like a big boy", implying that it's unusual for SHeldon to be out that late.

Oh yeah, I know it wouldn't be a regular occurrence, I just wondered because of the comment he made about taking the cheek swap while she slept at night. I also don't think he spent the night when they cuddled, I just wondered whether they might have laid down to spoon off-screen since he also talked about harp music that we didn't get to see.

Anyway, about the whole PL ILY, I have to say that was kind of an anti-climatic way to have her say it, in my opinion. I would have actually loved to have this season about Sheldon and Penny helping each other come to terms and deal with their being in love with Amy and Leonard, and I kind of hope there's still time for that to happen. I do honestly love them as friends and they are complete polar opposite even in the issues with their significant others that I think they could learn a lot from each other: Sheldon about expressing his feelings and Penny about not fearing commitment.

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Oh yeah, I know it wouldn't be a regular occurrence, I just wondered because of the comment he made about taking the cheek swap while she slept at night. I also don't think he spent the night when they cuddled, I just wondered whether they might have laid down to spoon off-screen since he also talked about harp music that we didn't get to see.

Anyway, about the whole PL ILY, I have to say that was kind of an anti-climatic way to have her say it, in my opinion. I would have actually loved to have this season about Sheldon and Penny helping each other come to terms and deal with their being in love with Amy and Leonard, and I kind of hope there's still time for that to happen. I do honestly love them as friends and they are complete polar opposite even in the issues with their significant others that I think they could learn a lot from each other: Sheldon about expressing his feelings and Penny about not fearing commitment.

There seems to be movement in the relationships, but they are really concentrating on the humor more than lovey-dovey development, it seems.

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I think that they are waiting on the L/P thing to get more people wondering what is going to happen. While it may be annoying to us, it is smart in the writers perspective because people will be tuning in to find out what actually is going to happen there. I think eventually we will get something on that front.

As for S/A, I dunno how I feel about the spanking thing, the bath thing and the nudity and showing of bandages in the last episode. It just seems like they are shoving sexual stuff at Sheldon and it does not fit too well with what this relationship has been in the past. I love these two together and it just seems to me that the writers are pushing the envelope with them a bit. I know Amy has always wanted it but Sheldon really does not strike me as the type that would take these things lightly. That is my take on it. Maybe back off on the sexual stuff a bit and give us some lovey moments between these two. Maybe Sheldon tells her how he really feels about her before she goes showing him bandages and spanking her. Just seems odd to go that way IMO.

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and it was Sheldon's idea of all things. Amy suggested an innocent Star Trek not going to the movies punishmnent but Sheldon suggested and performed the spanking LOL

who would have thought?

Since Kyzzx reported that Sheldon acted in a non-sexual matter- of-fact manner; then the assumption which the writers have been promoting is that Amy is sexual and a wild girl (viz; the previous car scene) while Sheldon isn't responding in a like manner (the car scene too). It may change. But right now not.

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I think the worry about the fallout from Penny's ILY is a bit premature. After all, that episode will air on 11/15/12 (for those outside the US, it's 15/11/12) and that is the last episode for November sweeps. The fact that they've not mentioned it over the next two taped episodes could simply mean that they are saving it for the new year. I don't think they are going to wait until the February sweeps to address it, but they may not address it until the second half of January, as a lead in to something bigger in the February sweeps. As much as I want to find out, I do realize that networks, and as a result the when of the resolution of conflict within shows, are driven by the ratings and advertising rates that drive profits.

edit, I see shire mentions something similar. I should have let the phone ring....

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I think that they are waiting on the L/P thing to get more people wondering what is going to happen. While it may be annoying to us, it is smart in the writers perspective because people will be tuning in to find out what actually is going to happen there. I think eventually we will get something on that front.

As for S/A, I dunno how I feel about the spanking thing, the bath thing and the nudity and showing of bandages in the last episode. It just seems like they are shoving sexual stuff at Sheldon and it does not fit too well with what this relationship has been in the past. I love these two together and it just seems to me that the writers are pushing the envelope with them a bit. I know Amy has always wanted it but Sheldon really does not strike me as the type that would take these things lightly. That is my take on it. Maybe back off on the sexual stuff a bit and give us some lovey moments between these two. Maybe Sheldon tells her how he really feels about her before she goes showing him bandages and spanking her. Just seems odd to go that way IMO.

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Since Kyzzx reported that Sheldon acted in a non-sexual matter- of-fact manner; then the assumption which the writers have been promoting is that Amy is sexual and a wild girl (viz; the previous car scene) while Sheldon isn't responding in a like manner (the car scene too). It may change. But right now not.

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is how I feel about the car scene and spanking scene. I don't mind the chest rubs and baths as much, but I do agree that I like it better when they show how these two are comfortable with each other and similar rather than when they turn one into a sex-crazed woman and the other in an aloof asexual being. That's why I liked the Star Trek doctor scene, because it was more balanced in those terms. I get it that they're trying to get the point across that he's becoming comfortable with touching her and that he isn't freaked out by it, but I don't think the spanking and car scene were really necessary for that. But maybe I'm just taking it all too seriously.... it is a sitcom after all.

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Guest I'm not dead Cheryl

Since Kyzzx reported that Sheldon acted in a non-sexual matter- of-fact manner; then the assumption which the writers have been promoting is that Amy is sexual and a wild girl (viz; the previous car scene) while Sheldon isn't responding in a like manner (the car scene too). It may change. But right now not.

I know that, I read it like that too. What I meant was referring to you mentioning the spanking and Amy being a wild girl, when the one who initiated the spanking was Sheldon. Amy is wild but not wild enough to imagine Sheldon was going to spank her, even if he didn't do it in a sexual manner.

But anyhow, I believe that everyone is focusing on the spanking way too much, when it clearly is just the tag of the episode, the moment that is supposed to make you die laughing and not much more than that.

The focus of the Sheldon/Amy storyline is how much Sheldon has grown in respect to their relationship. How important it is to him, that even if Amy said at first he should just go and let her rest, he came back and decided to take care of her. How he stated at first that the Relationship Agreement was supposed to be for his benefit, but then he acted differently, even if Amy told him he didn't need to.

For Sheldon, that is huge. He willingly exposed himself to a sick person's germs, assisted her pretty much all the time, and basically went out of his way to make her feel better.

And then, she does fake it for a couple of days (she didn't fake it all along though at first, she WAS sick), when he finds out and even though he gets upset with her... he kinda does forgive her pretty quicky. Sheldon, who always overreacts with this kind of thing, said to her "you were victim of human weakness" and that it wasn't as if she had "killed a man", and punishes (well.. for Sheldon) Amy with the spanking. One more proof that Amy is the only one that can get away with practically anything when it comes to Sheldon. He obviosly doesn't apply to her the same standards that he applies to everyone else.

And to the people that still thinks Sheldon is being "forced" into the relationship with Amy, another proof that is not so. Sheldon could have AGAIN gotten rid of her, but he chose to take care of her and forgive her. HE is the one who keeps staying.

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I know that, I read it like that too. What I meant was referring to you mentioning the spanking and Amy being a wild girl, when the one who initiated the spanking was Sheldon. Amy is wild but not wild enough to imagine Sheldon was going to spank her, even if he didn't do it in a sexual manner.

But anyhow, I believe that everyone is focusing on the spanking way too much, when it clearly is just the tag of the episode, the moment that is supposed to make you die laughing and not much more than that.

The focus of the Sheldon/Amy storyline is how much Sheldon has grown in respect to their relationship. How important it is to him, that even if Amy said at first he should just go and let her rest, he came back and decided to take care of her. How he stated at first that the Relationship Agreement was supposed to be for his benefit, but then he acted differently, even if Amy told him he didn't need to.

For Sheldon, that is huge. He willingly exposed himself to a sick person's germs, assisted her pretty much all the time, and basically went out of his way to make her feel better.

And then, she does fake it for a couple of days (she didn't fake it all along though at first, she WAS sick), when he finds out and even though he gets upset with her... he kinda does forgive her pretty quicky. Sheldon, who always overreacts with this kind of thing, said to her "you were victim of human weakness" and that it wasn't as if she had "killed a man", and punishes (well.. for Sheldon) Amy with the spanking. One more proof that Amy is the only one that can get away with practically anything when it comes to Sheldon. He obviosly doesn't apply to her the same standards that he applies to everyone else.

And to the people that still thinks Sheldon is being "forced" into the relationship with Amy, another proof that is not so. Sheldon could have AGAIN gotten rid of her, but he chose to take care of her and forgive her. HE is the one who keeps staying.

It's like another "Let's focus on how Amy is supposed to be the one at fault for everything" episode for other people. In this last episode, she "did not learn anything", "needs to apologize to Wheaton" and that "all this point of Sheldon siding with her doesn't make sense". Now, for that she did not learn anything and apologizing to the one she did wrong, she told Bernadette that she does kind of feel guilty for milking Sheldon's caring for her and that when Sheldon told her she was lying she was immediately sorry and apologetic to him. Also, someone before mentioned that what's bad in the last episode is that nobody pointed out to her that what she's doing is wrong. Well, there's Bernadette who told her only a lunatic would do such a thing.

Then again, like what Yanina said, the whole point of this is that it's Sheldon who is moving "three steps forward, two steps back". He's finally learned his lesson in the past and that he offered to take care of her and even say that "I have a written obligation over you and that I am concerned of your wellbeing". He's finally caring for another person and that he did them until he was sure she's better. Unlike in The Weekend Vortex, when Amy was sarcastic, he thought she was serious and letting him out and play with the guys. This time, he came back and focused on her. And that this time when Sheldon learned that someone was deceiving him, he was easy to forgive that he even said to her, "you succumb to human weakness, you did not kill a man".

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Cutting this conversation with a little something from Ausiello. I hate him for not revealing who is this fictional character who's going to be pregnant in three months' time and that it would be a "plot twist"? It involves multiple tv series on his "suspects". Damn. No, not Penny! Please be another spoiler scare!

http://tvline.com/2012/11/14/blind-item-pregnancy-tv-series/#utm_source=copypaste&utm_campaign=referral

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Cutting this conversation with a little something from Ausiello. I hate him for not revealing who is this fictional character who's going to be pregnant in three months' time and that it would be a "plot twist"? It involves multiple tv series on his "suspects". Damn. No, not Penny! Please be another spoiler scare!

http://tvline.com/2012/11/14/blind-item-pregnancy-tv-series/#utm_source=copypaste&utm_campaign=referral

As funny as that would be I highly doubt its gonna be penny to be totally honest

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The way he was looking I was thinking, "Is this dude only into boys or not?" LOL!!!

Monique

LOl between all this, the report form the 43 Peculiarity, the butt-slapping at The Launch Accelleration, and the interviews with Mayim It's got me wondering too!! LOL, not really, but Jim, you big flirt! stop it! (not really)

And regarding the spoilers, I am 100% sure is not Penny. The last info we got was from the taping and the sides for the Christmas episode, Those are the sources Ausiello uses for his spoilers, and there's nothing there. They just had to fill the pics up and TBH there are not many leading ladies on tv,

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Haha :-).

Anyhoo, joking aside (for now ;-p), I truly enjoy moments like I saw last night. The way Sheldon changed his mind and came back to knock on Amy's door and said he cared for her well-being was so sweet. The whole audience, of course, goes, "Awwwww" It's great to see him continuing to grow as a person in this way and care and do things for his girlfriend that maybe he wouldn't normally do. It's freakin' awesome.

I love Leonard and Penny but I'm "Shamy" all the way, baby. Their relationship interests me much more at this point and in saying that, I completely understand the frustration of those of you who are wondering why the hell did they not continue the story after the ILY with Penny & Leonard. When you like two people together, you're rootin' for them until the end....I get it :-).

Monique

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