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Thanks for the report Kyzzx (What does Kyzzx mean??? or is it your name ?? :p)

I frankly for one second thought that in the R/A scene Raj was going to kiss Amy :p

Still no mention of Penny's ILY . It looks like they are not even going to make a big small deal of it.

Well guess what writers it's a big deal for all of us fans :icon_evil: :icon_evil: :p

Almost half of the episodes this season are finished and we have seen them kiss in one episode :(

And I wish they would stop referring to the Penny/Raj one night thing again and again....it looks like they just dont't want us to us forget it :wacko: :wacko:

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oh wow that was quite a downer. It left me feel rather depressed to be honest, so much for the Xmas spirit.

While the Raj/Amy interactions towards the end are cute, the whole episode rings so hollow. First of all Amy finally gets excited about something Sheldon likes to do and he's just like "you're not invited". Then the whole thing about her being the only one Raj was never interested in is also kind of sad, although that is saved by the interaction at the end. The whole comment about "finding someone to take home" by Amy is just WTF. I hope she was meant to be drunk or something at the stage because as much as I don't mind inappropriate-Amy, is she actually suggesting cheating?? seriously??

To be honest it reads like a lame version of the girls night out they had in season 4 with Sheldon.

I also don't understand the point of having this girls night out/boys night in thing as 2 completely separate things. Why? It doesn't sound like either of those storylines are very funny. It would have been funnier to kind of start out with the plan of two separate nights and then kind of have some really bizarre mix of D&D and club-night or something. The dream sequence is funny and the way Sheldon lashes out at "Santa" during the game, but other than that... Bah. I'm definitely not holding my breath for this one, I'll watch it just for continuity sake.

There is another ep in December though, right? Maybe that is the real Xmas episode? I kind of hope so.

And yes, I REALLY hope the Raj thing for Amy is a one-off joke and this season doesn't turn into some sort of weird home wrecker-style season with Raj and Alex wrecking havoc in the relationships. Jesus, that would be horrible.

edit: Who wrote this episode again?

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The only big event here was Leonard turning down sex with Penny. Has that ever happened before? Their relationship has really solidified if Leonard can now say "later" to her, do something he wants to do and not have any fear of Penny's reaction.

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oh wow that was quite a downer. It left me feel rather depressed to be honest, so much for the Xmas spirit.

While the Raj/Amy interactions towards the end are cute, the whole episode rings so hollow. First of all Amy finally gets excited about something Sheldon likes to do and he's just like "you're not invited". Then the whole thing about her being the only one Raj was never interested in is also kind of sad, although that is saved by the interaction at the end. The whole comment about "finding someone to take home" by Amy is just WTF. I hope she was meant to be drunk or something at the stage because as much as I don't mind inappropriate-Amy, is she actually suggesting cheating?? seriously??

To be honest it reads like a lame version of the girls night out they had in season 4 with Sheldon.

I also don't understand the point of having this girls night out/boys night in thing as 2 completely separate things. Why? It doesn't sound like either of those storylines are very funny. It would have been funnier to kind of start out with the plan of two separate nights and then kind of have some really bizarre mix of D&D and club-night or something. The dream sequence is funny and the way Sheldon lashes out at "Santa" during the game, but other than that... Bah. I'm definitely not holding my breath for this one, I'll watch it just for continuity sake.

There is another ep in December though, right? Maybe that is the real Xmas episode? I kind of hope so.

And yes, I REALLY hope the Raj thing for Amy is a one-off joke and this season doesn't turn into some sort of weird home wrecker-style season with Raj and Alex wrecking havoc in the relationships. Jesus, that would be horrible.

edit: Who wrote this episode again?

I share some of your sentiments, but not sure if I share all though.

Maybe this is me expecting something really great for this episode but I really felt weird and kind of panicky after reading that. I'm going to wave my magic wand on their asses if the next few episodes are based from this one. I'm just absorbing the whole thing right now. My mind is kind of sending wrong signals and I kind of pressed my panic button omg.

What I interpreted a bit from the episode is that the Raj and Amy thing would be like something from his thingy with Bernie and Penny. I mean, they're trying to make running joke out of it that after this one, he's now the friend who had a thing for all his friend's girlfriends/wife. And that Raj always makes innuendos without him knowing. Though, I do love that now they're having interaction and it's a call from episode 6.01.

What I can see from the Leonard-Penny thing from the opening is that it kind of shows Leonard doesn't really see Penny as a sex object or that he's a nympho, and maybe that ILY from her reassures him that even with this little thing about choosing sex over DND, he would still have a girlfriend. Still, we heard from him sort of regret choosing this over Sex though.

And from the Sheldon, they gave us a story as to why he's not fond of the holiday, which kind of shows how he lets part of his childhood rule his life even as an adult. At least it was a bit resolved, I think.

Oh, you mean who wrote the episode? Lorre, Kaplan, Holland.

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The only big event here was Leonard turning down sex with Penny. Has that ever happened before? Their relationship has really solidified if Leonard can now say "later" to her, do something he wants do and not have any fear of Penny's reaction.

Nice point :)

In Halloween's party episode in season 1...after Penny kisses Leonard..he stops her....can this be considered as Leonard turning down sex with Penny ?? :icon_confused:

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The only big event here was Leonard turning down sex with Penny. Has that ever happened before? Their relationship has really solidified if Leonard can now say "later" to her, do something he wants do and not have any fear of Penny's reaction.

good point--he let go of the ring in season#3, to be with penny

when she told him had victoria secret in the bag.

leonard is growing.

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The main thing I like about it is Raj talking about penny and bernadette, and showing very clear that he realizes that he was wrong. they may be setting this up for a relationship for raj soon.

I also like that raj and amy bonded some. I found their interaction pretty cute.

It may be funnier than it reads, we will just have to see.

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Nice point :)

In Halloween's party episode in season 1...after Penny kisses Leonard..he stops her....can this be considered as Leonard turning down sex with Penny ?? :icon_confused:

That was a great way of showing how much he really cared for her. He would not take advantage of her while she was drunk and confused about another man.

He would save that for when they were both drunk and confused about his mother :icon_wink:

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I dunno, guys. I found myself chuckling at a lot of stuff in Kyzzx's report and somehow it didn't seem that bad to me.

I was kind of assuming they were going to d something a bit more Christmasy, but I wasn't expecting mistletoe and elves or anything,

While I would have loved to have seen Meemaw or Mrs. Cooper whatever, I still found some humor in the set report.

Now that I think about it, if they ever do show us Sheldon's meemaw, it'll have to be during sweeps and I'm sure there would be lots of buzz around whoever they might to play herel

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I share some of your sentiments, but not sure if I share all though.

Maybe this is me expecting something really great for this episode but I really felt weird and kind of panicky after reading that. I'm going to wave my magic wand on their asses if the next few episodes are based from this one. I'm just absorbing the whole thing right now. My mind is kind of sending wrong signals and I kind of pressed my panic button omg.

What I interpreted a bit from the episode is that the Raj and Amy thing would be like something from his thingy with Bernie and Penny. I mean, they're trying to make running joke out of it that after this one, he's now the friend who had a thing for all his friend's girlfriends/wife. And that Raj always makes innuendos without him knowing. Though, I do love that now they're having interaction and it's a call from episode 6.01.

What I can see from the Leonard-Penny thing from the opening is that it kind of shows Leonard doesn't really see Penny as a sex object or that he's a nympho, and maybe that ILY from her reassures him that even with this little thing about choosing sex over DND, he would still have a girlfriend. Still, we heard from him sort of regret choosing this over Sex though.

And from the Sheldon, they gave us a story as to why he's not fond of the holiday, which kind of shows how he lets part of his childhood rule his life even as an adult. At least it was a bit resolved, I think.

Oh, you mean who wrote the episode? Lorre, Kaplan, Holland.

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True, but to be honest, while the Bernie thing was hilarious and innocuous, the Penny thing, imo, was kind of a rather big deal. I mean, they would have slept together if it hadn't been for... you know.... I didn't particularly liked that season finale, besides the fact that I hate the idea of people doing the rounds and hooking up with every other character on shows, but because, imo, it's very crappy/borderline betrayal to sleep with your best friend's girl. I don't blame the Lenny fans who might have been pissed.

Now, one way the Raj thing could work out though is if it's somewhat connected to the whole idea of Mrs Cooper showing up at some point to help Amy with something... maybe Raj does develop a crush on Amy, or maybe she does decide to help him with his mutism and this could lead to some kind of misunderstanding that causes Sheldon to clam up, because he was making progress and he suddenly thinks that it's all apparently for nothing, and here comes Mrs Cooper to save the day. To be honest though, I'd rather they avoided this, it sounds too much like teenage drama. Also, I'd like them to actually DO something with Raj, rather than having him be this filler character who's only there for the others' amusement or to cause trouble. He's been very stagnant lately and I would like them to do something with him.

eta: My God, somebody shoot me now. I'm way too stressed with real life at the moment and the only way I cope is by spending far too much time thinking about stuff like the above. I need to get a grip. lol.

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Thank you for the report and effort Kyzzx! I appreciate it!

Well this should quiet those critics that were saying the guys were becoming to normal. Three beautiful girls come in their apartment and the three guys still wanted to continue playing D and D! Sheldon was oblivious to what they were even trying to show what they were missing! It was like in the 1st season the three guys were playing video games when Penny opens the door and her and her girl friends state they want to have sex with them and they didn't even notice, which is what Penny said would happen. Everything is right in NERDVILLE!

Raj and Amy? Sounds interesting! When Raj starts thinking he can't stop himself! Lol! I guess that puts the end to Alex and Raj then? :) He's already forgot he wants to get Alex out of her pants...and into something more stylish. Now he will want to work on Amy's style! :)

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Seriously...this episode SCREAMS filler, it has NO CONSEQUENCE on ANY of the couples - it may just be a catalyst for Raj/Amy interaction which I find as a positive step.

Amy's comments about taking someone home - give her a break - she was in a nightclub with her friends saying the things that would normally be said at a nightclub.

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Seriously...this episode SCREAMS filler, it has NO CONSEQUENCE on ANY of the couples - it may just be a catalyst for Raj/Amy interaction which I find as a positive step.

Amy's comments about taking someone home - give her a break - she was in a nightclub with her friends saying the things that would normally be said at a nightclub.

I don't know? From the report it sounds like H/B and L/P are on solid ground definitely. But it looks like there are ripples that could lead to troubled waters for A/S! IMO.

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This episode seems really week. Not very funny in the least.

Still, we heard from him sort of regret choosing this over Sex though.

He damn well should.

P.S. I'm not buying that Leonard would turn down a night of sex with Penny for a game of DnD. Not even with the spin of "he's becoming more secure in his relationship with Penny post ILY from her" on it.

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I don't know? From the report it sounds like H/B and L/P are on solid ground definitely. But it looks like there are ripples that could lead to troubled waters for A/S! IMO.

Wishful thinking.

In the end Raj said "You have Sheldon"...

She said.. "I do...hope you find someone too"

Sounds very solid to me....it just fed Amy's ego that Raj was sweet to her.

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I don't know? From the report it sounds like H/B and L/P are on solid ground definitely. But it looks like there are ripples that could lead to troubled waters for A/S! IMO.

Please, NOOOOOO :icon_cry: :icon_cry: :icon_cry:

Well, this ep sounds like a bit of drama.Dunno what to think... I liked the Amy/Raj interactions, but only at the end. When he said "no" for not to want her, I felt like I wanted to kick him really hard :icon_evil:. And I hope this interactions will continue in a good way.

Thank you so much for the report, Kyzzx!!! :icon_wink:

But the eps 6x09 and 6x10 are really good, simply amazing! :icon_razz:

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Wishful thinking.

In the end Raj said "You have Sheldon"...

She said.. "I do...hope you find someone too"

Sounds very solid to me....it just fed Amy's ego that Raj was sweet to her.

Maybe it just me, but, they have showed Amy doing everything in her power to get Sheldon to look at her as a woman sexually. Sheldon isn't at that stage of his life yet. It's not his fault. He just isn't. Amy is frustrated and getting more frustrated as the season progresses. When she said are we taking someone home tonight? She wasn't kidding. Am I saying A/S will break up? No! But would she jump the first guy that even remotely gives her notice? Yes she would! IMO

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Maybe it just me, but, they have showed Amy doing everything in her power to get Sheldon to look at her as a woman sexually. Sheldon isn't at that stage of his life yet. It's not his fault. He just isn't. Amy is frustrated and getting more frustrated as the season progresses. When she said are we taking someone home tonight? She wasn't kidding. Am I saying A/S will break up? No! But would she jump the first guy that even remotely gives her notice? Yes she would! IMO

As much as I have called her out on that "taking someone home" thing (and I do agree I might have jumped the gun there and made a big deal out of nothing), I also don't think they've shown her being frustrated at all. That Sheldon isn't yet starting to see things in a sexual way, yes, I agree with you (well, at least not in front of her, since he's making BJ jokes elsewhere) but that she's furstrated? No. In both the PLE and the FGD she does not show any sign of being frustrated. Milking it, yes. Frustrated, no. If she were really about to jump the first guy who gives her notice, she would have jumped Raj there and then, she wouldn't have said "let's go". I agree that for her it was an ego-stroke thing. It's Raj I'm wondering about...

Now, this is a tv show and whilst I do believe they tend to go for happy endings, a bit of stirring the pot in the middle could very well happen, so I'm not completely discounting your view. But I do not think they've been showing her being frustrated. She basically told Penny and Bernadette that she finds both of their relationships to be weirder than her own. And she tells Bernadette "WHEN Sheldon and I will finally make love", not if, so to me it doesn't sound like she's frustrated. She has her "plan", remember? I'm sure she's not expecting anything right here, right now. If Raj starts showing some interest she might be flattered etc, but I bet it's just going to be a plot device for her to realize she wants Sheldon and for Sheldon to speed up his progress a little bit.

Again, I do hope they do not go down that route not because I'm against a little bit of Shamy drama to move things along but because it's such a cheesy cliche. I'd rather them play it around a misunderstanding or a separation due to work than a love triangle, if they do have to create drama. And also because I like the idea of these two being "different" and not needing all the cheesy drama to progress in their relationship. I wish they went back to more science-related hanging out for these two.

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Guest I'm not dead Cheryl

Maybe it just me, but, they have showed Amy doing everything in her power to get Sheldon to look at her as a woman sexually. Sheldon isn't at that stage of his life yet. It's not his fault. He just isn't. Amy is frustrated and getting more frustrated as the season progresses. When she said are we taking someone home tonight? She wasn't kidding. Am I saying A/S will break up? No! But would she jump the first guy that even remotely gives her notice? Yes she would! IMO

Well I actually think that her interaction with Raj showed exactly the opposite of your "opinion". When Raj wanted her, she rejected him, just like she rejected Zack, Stuart, and Leonard (at least in her mind) that cements that she wants Sheldon, not "jump the first guy who gives her notice" (and that's not an "opinion" it's a fact from many episodes) despite what many Amy naysayers keep saying, she's not desperate for sex, she just wants to feel good about herself and have her boyfriend show he's attracted to her.

Having Amy jumping any other guy, so far is just wishful thinking for some.

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P.S. I'm not buying that Leonard would turn down a night of sex with Penny for a game of DnD. Not even with the spin of "he's becoming more secure in his relationship with Penny post ILY from her" on it.

I think its quite believable(not just because of ILY).....because he turned down a night of sex with Priya in order to help Sheldon in the Zarnecki episode...and also in TWV episode he was asking her permission :p to play games and not spend time with her (thought they were not having sex at that point :p)

And he also thinks that he is a Stallion that has to run free :p

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As much as I have called her out on that "taking someone home" thing (and I do agree I might have jumped the gun there and made a big deal out of nothing), I also don't think they've shown her frustrated at all. That Sheldon isn't yet starting to see things in a sexual way, yes, I agree with you (well, at least not in front of her, since he's making BJ jokes elsewhere) but that she's furstrated? No. In both the PLE and the FGD she does not show any sign of being frustrated. Milking it, yes. Frustrated, no. If she were really about to jump the first guy who gives her notice, she would have jumped Raj there and then, she wouldn't have said "let's go". I agree that for her it was an ego-stroke thing. It's Raj I'm wondering about...

Now, this is a tv show and whilst I do believe they tend to go for happy endings, a bit of stirring the pot in the middle could very well happen, so I'm not completely discounting your view. But I do not think they've been showing her being frustrated. She basically told Penny and Bernadette that she finds both of their relationships to be weirder than her own. And she tells Bernadette "WHEN Sheldon and I will finally make love", not if, so to me it doesn't sound like she's frustrated. She has her "plan", remember? I'm sure she's not expecting anything right here, right now. If Raj starts showing some interest she might be flattered etc, but I bet it's just going to be a plot device for her to realize she wants Sheldon and for Sheldon to speed up his progress a little bit.

Again, I do hope they do not go down that route not because I'm against a little bit of Shamy drama to move things along but because it's such a cheesy cliche. I'd rather them play it around a misunderstanding or a separation due to work than a love triangle, if they do have to create drama. And also because I like the idea of these two being "different" and not needing all the cheesy drama to progress in their relationship. I wish they went back to more science-related hanging out for these two.

Well I actually think that her interaction with Raj showed exactly the opposite of your "opinion". When Raj wanted her, she rejected him, just like she rejected Zack, Stuart, and Leonard (at least in her mind) that cements that she wants Sheldon, not "jump the first guy who gives her notice" (and that's not an "opinion" it's a fact from many episodes) despite what many Amy naysayers keep saying, she's not desperate for sex, she just wants to feel good about herself and have her boyfriend show he's attracted to her.

Having Amy jumping any other guy, so far is just wishful thinking for some.

Yes. Well said Spook and Yanina. That's what I thought of Amy there. She isn't sexually frustrated. Actually, if we didn't had a black-out an hour and a half ago, then I might've posted my rant.

In my perspective I'll stick with the simplest explanation for it: "Raj had a thing with all his friend's girlfriend". I blame Amy's insecurity, though I do love that they kind of connect there. Amy felt "insulted" that for her, even someone like Raj won't look at her and say that at one point he liked her. When Penny made that "you idiot" look, it gave me the impression that she knew it would just make the situation worse because Amy has that insecurity problem. Why get so defensive of Amy again? Because it's as if they taken out of something from my life-- the "I'm used to being the girl that never gets looked at twice. Though none of you would understand." thing. When Raj was already showing signs of light admiration for her, she then got satisfied that Raj did feel something for her. It's ego-stroking. It sort of took away a little of her insecurity. If it were me, I think I would be so full of myself after finally I got what I wanted, which is to make Raj wanted me too like what he said about Penny and Bernadette. And I never felt she wanted to have a go with Raj because she said that she does have Sheldon and that Raj will have someone else. It's like all the three girls assured that to him (all in different episodes), that there is someone out there for him and that it's not them who he should hook-up with him. Like Yanina said, she turned all those guys for Sheldon. I just don't buy it. Now I wonder about Bazingafan's fanfic if she foresaw that. bwehehe.

Kiru, I do think it's not much of a filler, since they had dug into something from Sheldon's past. From what I see, some of Meg's insights from the other forum is correct, he let things from his past (and in this instance, his childhood) to stick with him. It was as if another nerve was hit there in that DnD scene where he ranted at Santa. This episode may be a holiday-themed but it's a bit dark (or sort-of). There's some seriousness to Sheldon's part that he wanted wanted his Pop-pop back because he's one of two people who encouraged him to do what he wanted (and maybe his grandparents' support felt as if they were stroking his ego as well?) since Mary would always argue with him about his views being against her Christian beliefs and Sheldon's father was a Texan man and tried to instill him southern skills instead. I don't know.

Oh gosh. I think I felt I unlocked something. Off to my girlcave.

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Well I actually think that her interaction with Raj showed exactly the opposite of your "opinion". When Raj wanted her, she rejected him, just like she rejected Zack, Stuart, and Leonard (at least in her mind) that cements that she wants Sheldon, not "jump the first guy who gives her notice" (and that's not an "opinion" it's a fact from many episodes) despite what many Amy naysayers keep saying, she's not desperate for sex, she just wants to feel good about herself and have her boyfriend show he's attracted to her.

Having Amy jumping any other guy, so far is just wishful thinking for some.

Thank you! Haters don't see facts do they?

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I'm not buying that Leonard would turn down a night of sex with Penny for a game of DnD. Not even with the spin of "he's becoming more secure in his relationship with Penny post ILY from her" on it.

Me either. If they were trying to indicate that Leonard, post-ILY, now thinks nerd games with the guys is more perferable than sex with his beautiful girlfriend, he has retrogressed in his development. Their relationship has always been "Penny-centric", maybe too much so in the past but it's hard to believe Leonard would treat sex with Penny as old hat this quickly.

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