koops Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 To be honest guys, it's not like they decided to split overnight. When you break up a marriage it's probably because of something that has been going on for a long time, so I don't think her announcing it today had much to do with how she seemed on set yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomita Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 Not being able to type much today (hurt my fingers), and I seem to have run out of likes; just to say I'm agreeing a lot with some of the comments here. Especially Spook. ESPECIALLY this. What I miss, more than anything is the Amy who talks science crap and is the odd one out with Sheldon. They've turned her into "one of the girls" so much this season that I really miss them doing stuff together and agreeing on things. Getting excited about science museums and social experiments and making fun of pop-scientists and making science jokes that only they find funny. I really wish they could go back to that kind of Shamy. This season she's had maybe a couple of nerdy funny lines and that's it, the rest are all about not fitting in or hanging out with the girls. To be honest, right now, I'd be happier to see that, than any physical progress. Not kidding. Yes, please! I fell in love with them after Herb Garden for a reason. Need to see more of that natural twin-souls camaraderie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shel_Ra_Ho_Le Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Not being able to type much today (hurt my fingers), and I seem to have run out of likes; just to say I'm agreeing a lot with some of the comments here. Especially Spook. ESPECIALLY this. Yes, please! I fell in love with them after Herb Garden for a reason. Need to see more of that natural twin-souls camaraderie. Dang, Pom, you live here and FF. :D How are ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomita Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 Dang, Pom, you live here and FF. :D How are ya? I do, when my fingers are good. I'm doing fine otherwise. Hope same with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shel_Ra_Ho_Le Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I do, when my fingers are good. I'm doing fine otherwise. Hope same with you. Just working and building my resume. I'm good for the most part. I will be happier in Jan. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiru Breezy Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 But those things were in their friendship stage...now they actually have issues to deal with in their relationship...so I don't mind seeing Counterfactuals et al being pushed to be background...as long as they continue to make progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 But those things were in their friendship stage...now they actually have issues to deal with in their relationship...so I don't mind seeing Counterfactuals et al being pushed to be background...as long as they continue to make progress. But a lot of time issues come about because couples forget what made them attracted to each other in the first place. I think once in a while having them do what made them fun and love each other (and us love them) is a good thing. Yes, I agree they need to be progressing forward, but perhaps a fun night of Counterfactuals might be what will push Sheldon forward. You never know what could be the trigger point to move him to show affection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Yeah, I've been to an episode that was gloomy after an ordeal. I was there when Johnny and Kaley 'fought' or after the break up. "Pants Alternative" That taping atmosphere was not the upbeat it usually is. I think when an event in one of their lives happens IRL if does seem to spill over on set too. Johnny and Kaley fought on set after they broke up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shel_Ra_Ho_Le Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Johnny and Kaley fought on set after they broke up! No, they had a fight before the episode. My friend and I just found out the situation afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiru Breezy Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 But a lot of time issues come about because couples forget what made them attracted to each other in the first place. I think once in a while having them do what made them fun and love each other (and us love them) is a good thing. Yes, I agree they need to be progressing forward, but perhaps a fun night of Counterfactuals might be what will push Sheldon forward. You never know what could be the trigger point to move him to show affection. I disagree. Of course. Cause I think we all want to have our cake and eat it too. If they don't do stuff like that - that's all we want to see... When they were only doing stuff like that - we want to see tangible progress. Right now we have the best of both worlds - Fun with Flags and Happy! Shamy....I find nothing to complain about with the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiru Breezy Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 No, they had a fight before the episode. My friend and I just found out the situation afterwards. True. While Mayim may have been planning the divorce a while...she could have easily just had not too long broken the news to the cast and crew...hence the mood on the set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) True. While Mayim may have been planning the divorce a while...she could have easily just had not too long broken the news to the cast and crew...hence the mood on the set. Or it could be that everyone was just preoccupied because they knew that Thanksgiving was this week and they had a lot on their minds relative to logistics, etc. Some may be traveling after the taping, etc. They may have just wanted to get the job done and get out of there. :lol: I suspect many of the cast/crew may have known there were problems (at least her closer friends on the set probably did, like Jim and Melissa) so I doubt it came as a shock. It also, from her article, talks about having two households, so I suspect one of them has already moved which means it has been likely known for a while. It has now hit all the tabloids. I just feel so sorry for all of them. ETA: Is it just me or did anyone find the ending of the episode strange? I mean they had several versions of the sides and the last version had Sheldon waking up and mentioning he would never drink eggnog again or something along those lines. It was Santa shooting a shotgun around, instead of a cannon. I think the cannon seems a bit over the top (and less funny in a way), and I guess it seems to me like they were struggling with how to end it. I wonder if the cast had a feeling that this episode was not as fun and therefore stayed more serious as well because of that? Maybe their moods were affected by what they were filming. Since the taping before was so good and ended with a hilarious, albeit shocking, ending, it may have been more fun for the cast than this episode that took on a more serious tone. Edited November 21, 2012 by stardustmelody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I really hope the Santa thing is not as dark as the taping report or the way people are thinking. It just doesn't seem like it should be part of the show. Hopefully something will change on the editing table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangerMain Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 As for Leonard turning down sex to play D&D, I think there's one thing you're forgetting: what he told her. He felt like he "owed" it to the guys to play. There's two ways this can be interpreted. 1) Exactly as is, that he's been with Penny as much as he has (we don't know what goes on between episodes) and he wanted to reunite the guys that they might need a day like this. 2) It's the writers throwing a bone to the fans who think the relationships are ruining the show. (You wouldn't believe how many there are on the IMDb board that think that way.) While there have been a ton of geek/nerd references this year (Howard in space, Sheldon's 43 mystery, going back through Sheldon's journals, etc.), I think this one is sort of a nod to those who want to see the guys do more of the things they did in the past. Two very good points. We don't know just how much time Leonard dedicates to Penny in what is not shown. It could be more than can be imagined since he caters to her every whim when they are shown together. There is nothing that says he can't have sex with her after playing the game. Still, it is so unlike Leonard to say no to her. Their usual dynamic is Penny says "jump" and Leonard says "How High?". It is more likely that they are throwing a bone to the "low relationship" part of the fandom that does not like all those girls ruining the lives of the nerds with their demands for male normal behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BazingaFan Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) okay I need to say something here that I know most of you won't agree with, but I need to get off my chest. The spanking scene just bothers me. I am more disappointed to learn that they will be showing some of it. I've already decided that I will have to wait and watch that episode until the next day because I do not want my son to see it, and there is no way I will let my daughter see it. I know they are making it come off as something innocent that sheldon is doing without realizing, but they are showing amy enjoying being spanked, and I just do not think they should be showing that on primtime tv. I've already had the thought that it will be showing on reruns at some point and my kids will see it. I would have no problem with anything else -- they can get drunk and end up in the sack -- I am not that much of a conservative, but I do not want to see this. And, I think I will not be the only one that will feel this way when it airs. I love this show, and the shamy, and I am just a little heartbroken that they have done something with them that I feel strongly against. Anyway, I have had the thought (since the news of mayim's divorce) if her husband felt the same way about this. Would you want to see your wife in a position like this, on tv for the whole world to see? I realize this is just speculation on my part, and that I am out of line trying to guess what is going on with them. It's just a thought I had. Ok, I am off my soap box now. Thank you for listening. I will try to still have faith in my show, but this has really bothered me, the more I think about it. Edited November 22, 2012 by BazingaFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Meh, I'm not a fan of the spanking scene either... but for different reasons. I don't find it offensive, it's an old sexual innuendo/joke, like many others. I personally would not make any connections between that kind of stuff and Mayim's divorce: she's an actress, it's acting, it's her job. And from the sound of it, neither she nor Jim were bothered by the scene at all, quite the contrary, they seem to be having fun with it. If her husband is bothered by her job then it's their business, and that might have been an issue between them, but I don't think it's any of our business to say what is or isn't appropriate for her to do when working. It's her life, she can do whatever she wants. I don't think I'll like the spanking scene because I feel it's just a big WTF given the context of the relationship between these two. I totally get it that they put in there purely for laughs and probably didn't mean anything more by that, but I think the episode was already perfect as it is without this scene. I just think they are pushing the oblivious-Sheldon/dirty-Amy agenda slightly too far with this scene. But it's not the scene per-se that bothers me, it's how it's being used. As I said many times now, inappropriate-Amy is hilarious, but I wish they could revert back a little bit to science-nerd-Amy, because I miss that and by including scenes like this it's just going to reinforce the idea that that's all she is now, when looking at the episode more carefully she actually isn't. Edited November 22, 2012 by spook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiru Breezy Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I want to see it...the whole 'shebang' so to speak. I just think it shows another odd little quirk/kink to the Shamy which foreshadows them actually having a sex life. It's off kilter and fun and ANYONE who puts this on Amy is just being ridiculous - Sheldon suggested it. I REALLY CANNOT WAIT TO SEE IT!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodidIwin? Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I want to see it...the whole 'shebang' so to speak. I just think it shows another odd little quirk/kink to the Shamy which foreshadows them actually having a sex life. It's off kilter and fun and ANYONE who puts this on Amy is just being ridiculous - Sheldon suggested it. I REALLY CANNOT WAIT TO SEE IT!!!!! Yes, Sheldon suggested it as a punishment for Amy being a liar. However, Amy enjoying it is just another example of weird / kinky Amy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiru Breezy Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Yes, Sheldon suggested it as a punishment for Amy being a liar. However, Amy enjoying it is just another example of weird / kinky Amy. Seriously, WTF is your problem with Amy exactly? In my opinionation, your obsession with dislking her is strange....placing you on my 'ignore' list. Edited November 22, 2012 by Kiru Breezy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodidIwin? Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Seriously, WTF is your problem with Amy exactly? In my opinionation, your obsession with dislking her is strange....placing you on my 'ignore' list. My apologies if I wrote something that I upset you with. I'm just going by the report. Sheldon said she lied and said Liar, Liar pants on fire. I didn't make that up. As for the spanking. Enjoying spanking is considered kinky to some. Once again if I offended you my apologies. As for the character Amy I have nothing against her. I think Sheldon and her make a perfect couple! Edited November 22, 2012 by SodidIwin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangerMain Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Meh, I'm not a fan of the spanking scene either... but for different reasons. I don't find it offensive, it's an old sexual innuendo/joke, like many others. I don't think I'll like the spanking scene because I feel it's just a big WTF given the context of the relationship between these two. I totally get it that they put in there purely for laughs and probably didn't mean anything more by that, but I think the episode was already perfect as it is without this scene. I just think they are pushing the oblivious-Sheldon/dirty-Amy agenda slightly too far with this scene. But it's not the scene per-se that bothers me, it's how it's being used. As I said many times now, inappropriate-Amy is hilarious, but I wish they could revert back a little bit to science-nerd-Amy, because I miss that and by including scenes like this it's just going to reinforce the idea that that's all she is now, when looking at the episode more carefully she actually isn't. Every now and then we have to be reminded that TBBT is from the production house of Chuck Lorre, the man who brought us "Two and a Half Men". CBS and Lorre battle constantly over the solicitous innuendo of that show and we are seeing more spill over to TBBT. If you have seen TaaHM recently TBBT is like a school play on a scale of sexual situations. TBBT is suppose to follow the guidelines of the family hour time slot (8:00PM EST) but Lorre has found a way to introduce provocative sexual suggestiveness without it being too obvious, Sheldon and Amy's innocence. When Sheldon does his "Chicken pecking" motion to Leonard, Amy shows her "band aids" or Sheldon spanks Amy, the audience has to make that leap of sexual inference because the characters are virgins who can be claimed not to know anything other than the pure meaning of the act. No wonder Lorre loves the Shamy he can not do this with the other two couples. Edited November 22, 2012 by BangerMain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruit Loop Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 BIG SUGGESTION WHY NOT START A NEW SPOILER THREAD FOR EACH EPISODE? THIS THREAD IS WAY TO LONG AND CONFUSING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubyanjel Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Wow, what a literal and eye-catching suggestion. Seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Every now and then we have to be reminded that TBBT is from the production house of Chuck Lorre, the man who brought us "Two and a Half Men". CBS and Lorre battle constantly over the solicitous innuendo of that show and we are seeing more spill over to TBBT. If you have seen TaaHM recently TBBT is like a school play on a scale of sexual situations. TBBT is suppose to follow the guidelines of the family hour time slot (8:00PM EST) but Lorre has found a way to introduce provocative sexual suggestiveness without it being too obvious, Sheldon and Amy's innocence. When Sheldon does his "Chicken pecking" motion to Leonard, Amy shows her "band aids" or Sheldon spanks Amy, the audience has to make that leap of sexual inference because the characters are virgins who can be claimed not to know anything other than the pure meaning of the act. No wonder Lorre loves the Shamy he can not do this with the other two couples. Oh I never watch 2 1/2 Men, it's so not funny to me. But yeah, I guess you're right. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I hope there's not too much overspill between the two shows, I don't mind sexual innuendos and chicken pecking and band aids, but I do believe the spanking was a bit too much. And I didn't think Lorre was involved in writing this one? Or was he? Anyway, I hope they kind of revert back towards more science jokes, less sex jokes, in the new year or this is going to get old very quick. Edit: OMG, one post for each ep?? But then there would be too many to follow! I don't think I could cope. lol Edited November 22, 2012 by spook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razberrypie Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Yeah I'm a tad irked about it too. I guess am also one of those fans who would rather they didn't push the physical side of Shamy as well. Watching Sheldon smile with surprise at her intelligence and similar opinions was very heartwarming for me and I feel like, the way things are going now, their relationship runs the risk of becoming too shallow. I just thought it would be cute for them to enter a physical relationship tentatively when they were ready, instead of being pushed to strange extremes by a sexually fustrated Amy, who, seems almost nothing like the Amy Sheldon was attracted to in the first place. But hey, I should stop complaining, I'm sure it will be a good laugh and I still look forward to it. I mean, this kinky business makes good humour and that's essentially what the show revolves around. I just hope some day we'll see some more episodes like Herb Garden . Edited November 22, 2012 by Razberrypie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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