BazingaFan Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Isnt that the same thing penny said in the episode where the grad student was interested in him? They were out in the hall and penny said, "so what's sheldon's deal?" cool -- I like that she used the same wording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 It's interesting Leonard would say, "we don't ask Sheldon questions like thaaaat." Why wouldn't he? The guys are besties, Sheldon knows more than he wants to know about Leonard's love life, and has never been shy about getting involved. Besides, Leonard actually did ask a question very much like that in TIP. When Amy was drunk and asked Sheldon what it would take for him to get a bottle of hooch, go across the street to a motel, and have his way with her, Leonard said "Yeah, Sheldon, what would it take?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodidIwin? Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I love it how you guys always twist everything around. The point of the episode is PRECISELY to make fun of the fact that Sheldon does NOT have a sex life and that Sheldon just goes along with the assumption Kripke makes about his sex life getting in the way of work because he is too proud to admit to Kripke that his work has shortcomings due to his own intellect rather than outside forces. He tells that precise thing to Penny and Leonard. That is totally in character for Sheldon. And it's a brilliantly clever way for the writers to play on that. IMO Sheldon has two problems: 1.) His work is sub par even to his nemesis Kripke. 2.) To explain away his inadequate work he goes along with Kripke's assumption. Sheldon has always considered himself as the one with the superior intellect with a Nobel Prize just waiting for him to win. No matter what the reason he didn't come close to even Kripke's standards. This presents enormous issues for Sheldon. 1.) Going forward he has to work side by side with Kripke knowing full well his work isn't only not superior but is in fact subpar to his project partner. 2.) When Amy finds out the excuse he used to cover his poor work, she will either 1.) be extremely angry, 2.) expect Sheldon to put up or shut up or 3.) realize the man that she considers such a great genus is less than the one she has on that high pedestal. It is going to be very interesting to watch how the writers maneuver around such important issues for a prideful man that is also an egomaniac? Each day he works with Kripke knowing full well that he just didn't measure up and went along with a lie rather than admit it, he will hate it more and more. What will Sheldon ultimately do to get out of this? Leave Caltech? Maybe. Break up with Amy to be able to concentrate like before? Not likely. So then how does he get back the high level he has been a custom to? All the Shamy shippers are over the top with the possible sex between AFF and Sheldon but by handling it this way they have also set-up some very serious inner problems for Sheldon. Like I mentioned before it will be very interesting how they handle it. This whole season has been fabulous and that's why I can't wait for the answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) SodidIwin, I think you are incorrect in your assumption. They have pretty much implied both in the press and to VIP attendee last evening that there is wonderful stuff ahead for them and that they are a solid coupling. So I am not convinced your theory is correct. Edited January 10, 2013 by stardustmelody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppy Chow Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I don't know what so hard about figuring out how they are going to maneuver it: Sheldon will hit a roadblock at work at some point, but he and Amy will have coitus, during which he has an epiphany about his work that helps him move forward. Problem solved! Oh, and is there really any doubt that Amy is going to be nothing less than ecstatic to hear that Sheldon will "not rule sex out" regardless of the circumstances that prompted that confession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJistheBOMB Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 SodidIwin, I think you are incorrect in your assumption. They have pretty much implied both in the press and to VIP attendee last evening that there is wonderful stuff ahead for them and that they are a solid coupling. So I am not convinced your theory is correct. Will you stop that? I've already been driven insane. LOL ;-P Monique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I know...I am excited to see what lies ahead. I am still in shock though. I need to recover from the shock I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Monique, I have a question....did Jim look like he put a little weight back on? I noticed in the PCA photos he looks slightly heavier than he did in the Christmas episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJistheBOMB Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Jim looked exactly the same as he did in December when I last saw him. Honestly, he's just right in my opinion :-). Not too skinny like in the beginning of season 4. Don't get me wrong, he was just as sexy to me thicker like in season 5 but as long as he's healthy and happy with himself, then I'm happy too ;-). I noticed people are commenting on him getting too thin again. Not at all. As of RIGHT NOW: he is just fine. Monique Edited January 10, 2013 by MJistheBOMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Ok...I was just curious. I really don't care for the brown suit he wore at PCA. It really isn't one of his better choices. I can't wait for Sunday's GG awards. Mayim said she prefers the dress she is wearing to that compared to the one tonight (which I got the impression she wasn't crazy about). I think she actually is doing red carpet for it, but didn't tonight. So I am curious how he and she will dress. Kaley's dresses were cute on PCA,a though I think my least favorite was the long pink one. The others I loved and they were perfect for her. Melissa looked good, but I am not fond of that bright yellow. I preferred her Emmy dress. But she looked great all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 From the pics last night jim looks in very good condition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJistheBOMB Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Wasn't a fan of Jim's suit tonight either (I just saw a picture tweeted by Mayim). Every once in a while, he'll wear something that leaves me scratching my head. It's like, "damnit, Jim! You're too damn sexy....dress like it!" LOL. But other times he dresses super cute so hey, he can do what he wants. Monique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Simon's speech at the PCA was pretty good. Do the actors know they won before the show, because I was really surprised so many of the TBBT people and all the actors were there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) IMO Sheldon has two problems: 1.) His work is sub par even to his nemesis Kripke. 2.) To explain away his inadequate work he goes along with Kripke's assumption. Sheldon has always considered himself as the one with the superior intellect with a Nobel Prize just waiting for him to win. No matter what the reason he didn't come close to even Kripke's standards. This presents enormous issues for Sheldon. 1.) Going forward he has to work side by side with Kripke knowing full well his work isn't only not superior but is in fact subpar to his project partner. 2.) When Amy finds out the excuse he used to cover his poor work, she will either 1.) be extremely angry, 2.) expect Sheldon to put up or shut up or 3.) realize the man that she considers such a great genus is less than the one she has on that high pedestal. It is going to be very interesting to watch how the writers maneuver around such important issues for a prideful man that is also an egomaniac? Each day he works with Kripke knowing full well that he just didn't measure up and went along with a lie rather than admit it, he will hate it more and more. What will Sheldon ultimately do to get out of this? Leave Caltech? Maybe. Break up with Amy to be able to concentrate like before? Not likely. So then how does he get back the high level he has been a custom to? All the Shamy shippers are over the top with the possible sex between AFF and Sheldon but by handling it this way they have also set-up some very serious inner problems for Sheldon. Like I mentioned before it will be very interesting how they handle it. This whole season has been fabulous and that's why I can't wait for the answer! We are speculating about deeper implications of something that might have been used in this episode as a one-off excuse to trigger a plot about an underlying issue with Sheldon that's been ongoing for 6 years: what's his deal regarding sex. Who knows if this project with Kripke will ever be brought up again in the future. Could they use the work thing in the future to generate drama? Sure. But so far it could be nothing more than a one-off. In any case, it might indeed be very interesting to see whether realizing he isn't the genius he thinks he is might trigger some more character growth in Sheldon. I do not for one second believe that someone with a IQ of 187 is suddenly going to become average. That's not the way intelligence works. But with his peculiar upbringing as a child prodigy he might be headed for a burn-out. If anything, I think Amy could be there to help him, much like she does in this episode, and strengthen their bond. I always thought it would be awesome to have the Shamy work on a project together. If I were writing the show I'd use this as an opportunity to do just that. Sheldon can realize that there's more to science than physics and get excited about something else and Amy could get some help making a breakthrough of some sort. Oh the possibilities are endless. I honestly do not believe she'd be upset to find out he's been lying about their sex life. This is AMY we are talking about. If anything, she'll be thrilled that he is making stories up about the two of them. I can only see her being upset if people start teasing her or she realizes she's getting a bit of a reputation, but, again, it's going to be a one-off, if that ever happens. To be honest I think the imaginary sex life thing is going to be swept under the carpet after this ep unless there are scenes in the future with Amy bumping into Kripke. In any case, I agree with stardust that it's unlikely that there'll be any drama any time soon given what the writers are teasing people with. It sounds like that crew and cast at the moment is one big beehive of Shamy shippers, lol. Edited January 10, 2013 by spook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazziedal Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Are we still waiting for the taping report or did I miss it? I Can't wait to read it also I have a question How come this episode won't be aired till 31st why such a long delay between The bakersfield episode and this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomita Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) From the little bits we've got, I don't think that Sheldon's problem with his work (and with Kripke) is meant to be anything more than a one-off thing to develop this particular storyline. Sheldon is always going to be a genius and an esteemed physicist, in the long run, but we've seen him hit roadblocks before, like his insecurity about Dennis Kim and the North Pole mess-up and the mistake in his paper to Hawking. Especially in the field of theoretical physics research, work output and success can be very fluctuating. He's also known to over-react to such situations, and it was remarkable that in this episode he didn't, even though he was upset. I think this speaks a lot about his growing maturity and the fact that he's probably more relaxed now because he has another important aspect to his life - his attachment to Amy. If they do plan to continue with the storyline of Sheldon having a lull in his work, I agree that they will do very well to show how Amy and a further deepening of their relationship help him to get out of that mental block. Edited January 10, 2013 by Pomita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Also i think the idea of them going further in their relationship wont happen straight away, it will be a gradual thing with more cuddling and hand holding (instigated by him on occasions) and that will eventually lead to more, Sheldon likes things at his own pace and i think Amy IF she finds out what Sheldon has said then she will/could be willing to patient and wait especially as she has a 4 year plan Edited January 10, 2013 by rachygd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 From the little bits we've got, I don't think that Sheldon's problem with his work (and with Kripke) is meant to be anything more than a one-off thing to develop this particular storyline. Sheldon is always going to be a genius and an esteemed physicist, in the long run, but we've seen him hit roadblocks before, like his insecurity about Dennis Kim and the North Pole mess-up and the mistake in his paper to Hawking. Especially in the field of theoretical physics research, work output and success can be very fluctuating. He's also known to over-react to such situations, and it was remarkable that in this episode he didn't, even though he was upset. I think this speaks a lot about his growing maturity and the fact that he's probably more relaxed now because he has another important aspect to his life - his attachment to Amy. If they do plan to continue with the storyline of Sheldon having a lull in his work, I agree that they will do very well to show how Amy and a further deepening of their relationship help him to get out of that mental block. You know what, this is making me think... In previous seasons Sheldon would have probably over reacted and run off to Texas to hide with his mommy. It is a big change in his ability to handle this type of situations. And I can totally see how Amy is kind of sneaking a foot into that role of the 'comforter' that his mother would have had in the past, which is something girlfriends just do in general. I think it isn't so much that he's more relaxed because he has another important aspect to his life but that he's more relaxed because she 'grounds him', if you know what I mean. He has someone right beside him 24/7 to make it all go away now. And with his newfound comfort with physical contact I can see how he can now just run for a cuddle to reset his mind, not unlike him playing hackeysack. Resetting is a healthier way of dealing with problems than freaking out. More than ever I want to see Mary make an appearance now and witness all this. I'm so curious as to how it would play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 You know what, this is making me think... In previous seasons Sheldon would have probably over reacted and run off to Texas to hide with his mommy. It is a big change in his ability to handle this type of situations. And I can totally see how Amy is kind of sneaking a foot into that role of the 'comforter' that his mother would have had in the past, which is something girlfriends just do in general. I think it isn't so much that he's more relaxed because he has another important aspect to his life but that he's more relaxed because she 'grounds him', if you know what I mean. He has someone right beside him 24/7 to make it all go away now. And with his newfound comfort with physical contact I can see how he can now just run for a cuddle to reset his mind, not unlike him playing hackeysack. Resetting is a healthier way of dealing with problems than freaking out. More than ever I want to see Mary make an appearance now and witness all this. I'm so curious as to how it would play out. I think Amy does ground him, but what is more important is that Amy treats him like a grown up so he can handle the situation more like a grown up. Amy has been the only person in his life to treat him as an adult and equal. Others treat him like a toddler. This is significant and, trust me, Sheldon has taken note of it. Most men would be upset if they placed a lot of value and pride on their work only to find it is sub-par compared to someone they feel is their rival. They would seek comfort from their significant others. So Sheldon handled this much more like an adult. Sure he cried, but compared to his past treatment of situations that were not to his liking, he handled this much more like an adult. As you said, he would have retreated, crawled up like a fetal position on his bed, cried, packed and run home to Texas and his mother. But this time, he didn't do any of those things. This time he explained clearly to his girlfriend what was bothering him, cried a bit and sought her comfort. It was done much more adult-like. He then went to work and faced Kripkie (like a man would do). He was even willing to humble himself and outright admitted his work wasn't up to snuff. Which is HUGE for Sheldon. Kripkie gave him the out with the excuse that it was because he was having a lot of sex. Sheldon, being who he is, of course decided to exploit the situation since it would make him look like a man. That is what Sheldon is trying to be...a man. This gave him a more manly reason for his work not being up to par. So, of course, he latched on and took it for the ride to the fullest extent. This whole season has been about Sheldon evolving from boyhood to manhood...and all for one reason....AMY! She helps him be the man he wants to be for her. He explained it so perfectly in the premiere episode (The Date Night Variable) and they have woven that theme throughout the entire season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I think Amy does ground him, but what is more important is that Amy treats him like a grown up so he can handle the situation more like a grown up. Amy has been the only person in his life to treat him as an adult and equal. Others treat him like a toddler. This is significant and, trust me, Sheldon has taken note of it. This is so true, I never really thought about it this way! Penny and Leonard always treat him like a child (hence all those funny scenes about them acting like he's their kid) and they're the only two beside his mother to ever give him advice about stuff. I think it has to do with the fact that Amy never saw anything "odd" in him because she, again, is meant to be a female version of Sheldon so most of his quirks are just normal to her. I always looked at it in terms of comedy value or of the "perfect match" thing, but I never thought about how this affects how they relate to each other compared to how other people relate to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamynatress Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 This whole season has been about Sheldon evolving from boyhood to manhood...and all for one reason....AMY! She helps him be the man he wants to be for her. He explained it so perfectly in the premiere episode (The Date Night Variable) and they have woven that theme throughout the entire season. Just feels right to post this here at the moment: When I look in your eyes and you are looking back in mine everthing feels.... not quite normal because I feel.... stronger and weaker at the same time I feel exited and at the same time terrified The truth is, I do not know what I feel, expet I know what kind of man I want to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Dang, I run out of "likes" too quickly. Spook, yes she accepted him and his quirks because to her they are normal. LOL! But she is the only one that has always treated him like an adult and reasoned things out like an adult with him. All of his friends, his mother, and his sister, treat him like he is a little boy. He laps up that kind of treatment, no doubt, but he also likes what Amy does to him. She awakens the true man in him and he likes that. Shamynatress, it was a perfect time to post that! I liked it when I heard it the first time from him, but now I totally love that speech! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Just feels right to post this here at the moment: When I look in your eyes and you are looking back in mine everthing feels.... not quite normal because I feel.... stronger and weaker at the same time I feel exited and at the same time terrified The truth is, I do not know what I feel, expet I know what kind of man I want to be. Quote aside, I think that scene might be worth even just for the suppressed squeals of women in the audience. Sheldon can indeed be a chick magnet. LOL. Cracks me up every time. They should give out awards for Best Audience Reaction. ETA: And if I were giving them out, this guy at 8:14 wins the all-time best reaction ever for me: Edited January 10, 2013 by spook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamynatress Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Quote aside, I think that scene might be worth even just for the suppressed squeals of women in the audience. Sheldon can indeed be a chick magnet. LOL. Cracks me up every time. They should give out awards for Best Audience Reaction. ETA: And if I were giving them out, this guy at 8:14 wins the all-time best reaction ever for me: YES!!!! Crackes me up every time. So love this laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Oh my gosh, that laugh at 8:14 is hilarious! It makes me laugh every time I hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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