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I There might be some instances wherein what was written in a fan fiction kind of happen in the show, that doesn't mean everything in it will follow through. What I'm saying here doesn't have anything to do with what Lexxie posted above but I'm simply stating that everything's up to the writers, actually.

I agree it is all up to the writers in the end, but I think a lot of what I posted has already been put into motion in some form so all though I know obviously not everything will happen exactly like I said, the major overarching themes are the writers ideas not mine I just put them together in my own way to make sense of all. :) But, I agree with Moonbase also that I want to be surprised a little too so I wouldn't want it to be super predictable and exactly the same just I think its fun putting theories together and writing fanfiction for the show. I'm actually working on two SHAMY centric stories right now. :) But, the makeovers, experiments and playing hard to get thing is classic sitcom tv stuff and Sheldon will eventually have to give it up if he wants to keep Amy happy and not have her go find someone else to be with.

Though I could also see Sheldon trying to bring in a sexual surrogate into relationship, if he really truly is asexual he may try to get a friend he trusts or even a stranger he puts out an ad for to sleep with Amy instead as long as they garner no romantic interests or long term bonding, but just to satisfy her sexual desires so he doesn't have to like he tried to outsource his anniversary date to Raj, but Amy won't go for that so Sheldon will have to give in and satifsy her sexually whether he wants to or not, but I already think deep down he wants too he's just scared thats all.

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There's no question that amy will have to lead him there, but I really want sheldon to have some kind of battle with his body and mind, and I want it is to be his idea, as well as amy's. I want him to start feeling it and recognizing it, like when he was talking to leonard about how he couldn't concentrate on work because of her. I am so waiting for another scene when sheldon talks about this!

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There's no question that amy will have to lead him there, but I really want sheldon to have some kind of battle with his body and mind, and I want it is to be his idea, as well as amy's. I want him to start feeling it and recognizing it, like when he was talking to leonard about how he couldn't concentrate on work because of her. I am so waiting for another scene when sheldon talks about this!

This is where I think they're more likely to go--Amy has already been leading him along, starting with that tipsy kiss after their night out dancing. I think that even the dancing itself and her flirting with him that night was the beginning of his primal self starting to awaken.

She's ahead of him in that arena, but I think she knows how to take it at the right speed, just how much to push the envelope without making him run for the hills (she knows he's a flight risk!)

As I've said in other posts, he is already kind of fighting those more primal reactions, but giving in to that pull little by little.

I think you could go all the way back to the Zazzy episode in looking at how he's learning that he purely intellectual approach that he likes to use in dealing with others won't serve him when it comes to Amy. When they have their argument about science and their respective fields, he thinks he can "win" through the superiority of his mind and that there are no emotional factors to consider, but I think that though he cannot bring himself, at that point, to simply apologize, when his mother kind of affords him the opportunity he quickly takes advantage of the opportunity t mend the relationship.

At any rate, he still can't quite identify or perhaps can't admit the feelings he has begin to have. He felt enough jealousy or possessiveness when Stuart asked Amy out that he took the extraordinary step to actually first try to make her jealous, then to finally "stake a claim" on her by asking her to be his girlfriend.

I don't think he can identify his feelings as love just yet, but I think that's what he's feeling.

And that karate chop on Leonard was pretty possessive, primal and unprecedented--all because he didn't want Leonard horning in on "his woman".

I think he would be somewhat appalled if anyone were to tell him that he is in love with Amy, but I think it's there.

I think he will have to continue being led down that path by Amy for some time simply because he's still a bit clueless about his own heart.

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I know Sheldon loves her and desires her sexually on the inside, he just using kolihnar and his pre frontal cortex reasoning to block out those feelings. Its Amy's job if she wants to SCORE with him to do the dance of love much like she did in Agreement Dissection by guiding him to path of figuring out for himself that he wants to be with her forever marry her and have sex with her.

I posted this on other BBT forum when someone questioned my theory and cause i'm lazy i'll just repost it again here, because its bascially saying same thing but in a different way. To me Its all like one big GAME the GAME OF LOVE and right now according to Sheldon the women are winning LOL but that doesn't mean the other team loses. When one team wins the other team does too when it comes to love and sex as long as the other team had fun and that is what Leonard told Penny as long as you have fun playing the game you are winner. lol But, of course we all know that is total BS, truth is really winning is what makes you a winner so yeah I'm on TEAM AMY all the way because that is the Team that will get SHAMY to SCORE in the end! And yes i believe the writers have made, Penny, her wingman on this journey of love. That is why Penny has always been there since Shamy date 1 helping put them together and trying to show Amy how to "handle" Sheldon.

I see Shamy playing this relationship game lots more in future. Perhaps some role playing dress up and game nights in future which I know is coming up next week and in Halloween episode. As for Amy's lipstick I think Sheldon either wouldn't have noticed it at all or he would have definitely noticed and made some kind of noncompliment or backhanded compliment type funny statement about it that would leave people wondering whether he really liked it or not. Sheldon does that a lot with people, especially Amy.

Its his way of keeping her at bay he knows what she is after, he's just playing hard to get right now so its up to Amy to play the game until she can win him over or make him want to win her over again its how couples SCORE with each other. Eventually as Sheldon grows and matures he will learn to play game better too and might start trying to score points himself, but for now Amy is leading the way.

For some reason, (no offense) I don't like this idea...which surprises me. I guess I just like the idea of Sheldon being unable to contain himself and spontaneously kiss her when they've still only had the 2 kisses. smile.gif

This is a very valid theory about how Amy gets there, but again I'm not sure I like the scenario...I guess I don't want Sheldon to be manipulated into marriage, which is how that scenario would run for me... It's one thing to try different experiments to get him to increase his feelings, and quite another to manipulate him into marriage...I think the biggest difference being that Amy didn't hide the fact that she was conducting and experiment on him, so it wasn't quite manipulation (how can you manipulate someone if you tell them you'er manipulating them?).

Its not really negative manipulation if he knows he's being manipulated and chooses to partake anyway. This is the good kind of manipulation, its like a dance couples do in order to SCORE. They pretend to not want something in order to make their partner want it more, but the partner subconsciously knows that is what they want and gives it to them because they want to make them happy deep down. Also, because they realize its important to themself as well.

Sheldon for example acted like he didn't enjoy handholding during the movie theater scene and say he wasn't a fan, but still did it anyway because he knew Amy liked doing it and you can tell by way he never let go of her hand the entire scene and kept up a polite funny conversation with her that on a subconsious level he enjoyed it too, but outwardly behaves as though he doesn't. THAT IS ONE MORE POINT for Team Amy, she got what she wanted from Team Sheldon, but she only got it because he was willing to give it so you see it all fits together. Its like his Transformer speech, sometimes a person in a romantic relationship on outside appears as though they feel diffferently than they really feel and Sheldon really will want to marry Amy when the time comes, but first they must do the dance.

Because as Amy put it Sheldon "is still a flight risk". So she can conduct experiments or games that involve physical contact with him and slowly lead to more intimacy. She then can play hard to get at times too in order to make him miss her and want her more. Other times Amy will act jealous to show him and others how desirable she thinks he is like she just did in last episode. But, she must let him pursue her too by telling him the one word all men hate to hear "NO!"

By not giving int to Sheldon's demands all the time she prevents herself from become a doormat and she leaves Sheldon wanting more from her which will force him to give her what she wants. That is how you score points in a relationship make the person feel like they have to prove you wrong. Like his mother said men always want to do what you tell them not to do. So if Amy acts like she doesn't want him to be physically intimate or behaves as though she is too busy for him or has other offers from other men interested in having sex with her instead then she will win Sheldon over because he will want to prove her wrong by being more intimate and opening up more emotionally thinking outwardly that he is doing what he wants, but really he is just doing what she always wanted him to do in first place. Sheldon will want to win her back if Amy ever chooses to break things off and that means he'd have to give her what she wanted in the first place, but by then he would want it too himself and would think it was his idea all along even though it wasn't. lol

So that is the kind of funny ridiculous yet enjoyable tv sitcom manipulation I'm talking about and its how their relationship has been from the start, sometimes Amy is agressively pursuing Sheldon, other times she is holding back a little and making him question his feelings for her until he finally has to give in too because he realizes that she is the ONE!! He knows it already deep down, but he's trying to ignore it so she has to win him over by doing the dance of love..which is not the cha cha by the way, its more of a tango. Its all about give and take in any relationship.

I feel like at this point I'm picking apart your theory. sorry. wink.giflol.gif This is just my wish, but I don't want Sheldon to have sex because it's social convention. I want him to have sex because he loves and desires Amy (cue thoughts of The Connubial Catalyst...).

He will have eventualy want to sex with AMy because he loves and desires her on the inside anyway, but Sheldon is type to behave on the outside like he is only doing it because its a social convention so he can at least pretend that he is still totally devote to Science only, but we all know that really his insides are throwing a Ballpit party of happiness whenever he's with her. Sheldon has a lot going on under the surface and he tries to keep it hidden, but it always comes out when he his emotional desires can be reconcilled with his need for struture and order. Its a push and pull, his pre frontal cortex tells him its a social convention to engage in coitus wiht Amy for procreation purposes of creating a genetic super genius a Sheldon 2.0 if you will, but his limbic system and hindbrain is telling him that Amy is sexy hot thang that he must devour before his system shuts down for good. Sheldon uses kolihnar to ignore his hindbrain's reasoning, but the manipulative yet adorable tactics of Amy are slowly chipping away at his defensive mechanisms. He wants her already, he just doesn't want to admit it to himself and others and he is still in the I'm not sure what this means phase of the relationship so I'm going to try my best to ignore it hoping I'll figure it out later.

But, once those defenses are down, Sheldon will have no choice, but to give up his V card, and to keep his pre- frontal cortex happy, Amy happy and to keep his mother happy too. I think he'll eventually propose marriage and go through the traditonal legal system of getting a Marriage license and doing the ceremony because its what he wants to do. He needs that kind of order and struture in his life that is his modus operandi. Sexual desires and emotions seem chaotic to him so to restore balance he'll want to maintain a contract that binds Amy to him forever and Amy will want the jewelry so that means putting a ring on it lol. So might as well make it official and legal and all though. That kind of thing makes sense to Sheldon, what doesn't is love and emotions in general that confuses him, but with the help of Amy, her wingman Penny and little Tinkerbell fairydust from the writers they will come up with a funny way to get Sheldon to make that final touchdown and SCORE!

However, I'm enjoying the dance right now and I don't mind if they drag it out for years because its funny that way and we'll gets lots more adorable sexy gameplay/foreplay in the mean time.

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You know what needs to happen? Bring Zach back. Then, Amy can run into him somewhere (with sheldon) and she can say "hoo". I would like to see how sheldon reacts.

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Hmm, I've said this before but I hope it's Sheldon who makes the final move, not Amy. If it's all coming from her side, it will just looked like she wore him down.

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Hmm, I've said this before but I hope it's Sheldon who makes the final move, not Amy. If it's all coming from her side, it will just looked like she wore him down.

Yeah, I think that that final big step has to be his idea. It's funny, but I kind of imagine his first self-initiated kiss to be more of a serious moment, rather than something funny. And likewise, I think that when he finally does decide he wants to "go all the way", it might be something very deep or heavy for him. It would be the breaking down of a pretty major barrier, emotionally, physically and maybe even morally, depending on whether or not he would consider his mother's beliefs in that area.

I think it could/would certainly be joked about or played for laughs later, but that moment strikes me as kind of a sober moment.

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I like the idea of Sheldon finally kissing Amy due to some special signature event for them like a holiday or birthday, they have several they could choose from. Christmas under the mistletoe, New Years Eve at Midnight like Zach and Penny did that one time, celebrating Valentine's day, or as Amy's birthday present. But I could also see it happening due to Sheldon being jealous like Bazingafan said and him wanting to claim his territory so to speak by kissing her or perhaps a truly emotional breakthrough like in my fic where Sheldon thinks Amy might be dying soon so he kisses her like in a fairytale. I still remember how romantic Amy thought it would thought it would be if LEonard were dying and Penny rode him right up until he flatlined lol. I think no matter what its going to take a truly big step for Sheldon to finally kiss her and even bigger leap for him to go all the way, but I really really want it to happen before the show ends.

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Didn't Sheldon in the unaired test pilot actually do his thing while watching porn? I've never seen Sheldon act sexual.

Yeah, in the unaired pilot Leonard told Sheldon he (Sheldon) should just admit that he's an "a$$-man". But Sheldon had been looking at a magazine with pictures of big-bottomed women (that he had brought from home, apparently.)

In the very first scene of the second pilot, Leonard and Sheldon are in the sperm bank, but they decide against donating their sperm because Sheldon feels it would be dishonest to participate in an unproven idea that having sperm from a genius would guarantee that your child would be a genius, etc.

I still can't imagine Sheldon even considering donating sperm because he'd have to go back there--in a strange room where other men have been "at it"--and then he'd have to "go at it" himself. If he ever does such a thing, I can't imagine him doing it under those circumstances.

Although, there was that episode shortly after he'd met Amy (was it the S4 opening episode?) where Sheldon told the gang that he and Amy had been talking about having a child--through artificial insemination and a surrogate womb, of course. But again, he'd have to go through the process of donating...

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Yeah, I think that that final big step has to be his idea. It's funny, but I kind of imagine his first self-initiated kiss to be more of a serious moment, rather than something funny. And likewise, I think that when he finally does decide he wants to "go all the way", it might be something very deep or heavy for him. It would be the breaking down of a pretty major barrier, emotionally, physically and maybe even morally, depending on whether or not he would consider his mother's beliefs in that area.

I think it could/would certainly be joked about or played for laughs later, but that moment strikes me as kind of a sober moment.

This is exactly how I would like to see it happen, too. This show always does throw in a laugh to cap any scene, but at least the moment - when he first kisses her, or proposes to her - would, I like to believe, be serious and intense. I think that's how the audience would see it, too.. when Sheldon said his Spiderman speech to Amy, you could here a pin drop, people were that stunned and affected by it. Or even when he said 'sorry'.

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Oh, the "I'm sorry"...was a huge deal. Speaks volumes of just how much he cares for Amy. I saw it at the taping and even still when I watch it on TV I say, "Awwwww" inside. So sweet.

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Oh, the "I'm sorry"...was a huge deal. Speaks volumes of just how much he cares for Amy. I saw it at the taping and even still when I watch it on TV I say, "Awwwww" inside. So sweet.

Monique

Yeah, you know, when I first saw it I don't think I was paying close enough attention, but when I rewatched it more recently, that apology moment really struck me. From the moment he comes to the door, standing there all contrite, leaning kind of shyly against the door, that scene is speaking volumes about how much he'd rather be with Amy than try to stick to his prideful stance.

He tries to get away with one of his it's-not-really-my-fault pseudo-apologies at first, but when she won't let him get away with it he had two options--either maintain his haughty self-righteousness, or just be real and apologize, since in the end, he really was sorry and really wanted to be with her.

Being with her was more important to him that trying to be "right" all the time. Being with her was more important to him than his pride.

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Yeah, you know, when I first saw it I don't think I was paying close enough attention, but when I rewatched it more recently, that apology moment really struck me. From the moment he comes to the door, standing there all contrite, leaning kind of shyly against the door, that scene is speaking volumes about how much he'd rather be with Amy than try to stick to his prideful stance.

He tries to get away with one of his it's-not-really-my-fault pseudo-apologies at first, but when she won't let him get away with it he had two options--either maintain his haughty self-righteousness, or just be real and apologize, since in the end, he really was sorry and really wanted to be with her.

Being with her was more important to him that trying to be "right" all the time. Being with her was more important to him than his pride.

This is the kind of post which gives me what, over at LG, we call warm fuzzies. :wub:

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This is the kind of post which gives me what, over at LG, we call warm fuzzies. :wub:

Aww...thanks. That's just the way I roll... ;)

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