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6.09 The Parking Spot Escalation (Nov. 29)

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I apologize for copying-and-pasting but...

 

 

I think the whole Penny getting whacked in the face thing has been blown a bit out of proportion. First of all, it's a sitcom, physical comedy is one of the things they do. Secondly, the scene, as many pointed out DOES have a point: to show that the fight has gone too far. That's when Bernadette says "Don't you think this has gotten a little out of hand?". Third, Sheldon and Howard did not even know what went on between them, didn't you see the looks on their faces when they were having dinner and Penny walked by with a bruised face? So I don't see why Sheldon has to be the one "learning a lesson" here.

 

Yes, I know they could have solved the whole argument differently or have a scene with Leonard and Penny about it or Leonard defending Penny, but they chose to go in a different direction because the previous episode was very Lenny heavy and that's what they usually do. They only have 20 minutes to tell a story, they can't always play it out in a way that shows character growth or whatever. I agree that this is not a drama and we shouldn't expect that every single episode has to have some important moment. 

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Howard was the bigger man, he could have reported the helmet stolen and gotten the school cops involved, but then lawyers, judges and Sheldon's mom. Who needs that?  It was funny, quick and to the point.  I liked it.  Especially Bernadetts actions with the car, I loved it!

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I should have listened to that person who said that this episode was EPIC. I thought it was just epic but it was more than EPIC.

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I think that Siebert can probably do whatever he thinks is appropriate with Sheldon's parking spot since Sheldon isn't using it and doesn't even own a car or know how to drive. It's a wasted asset and Sheldon can be given a spot if and when he ever needs one.
I imagine a parking spot would have been requested by Howard once he got his new car (or planned on getting it) and since he is indeed a feather in te cap of the school, it's not unreasonable for Siebert to grant that request. It's likely that Sheldon's spot was the only faculty spot not being used, so it makes sense to assign that spot to someone who might actually use it.
It's not Howard's or Siebert's job to coddle Sheldon over his idle parking spot or to baby him over such things, so I don't see that either Howard or Siebert can be blamed for Sheldon's behavior. He's a grown-ass man who should be expected to act like a grown-up.
That he doesn't is simply par for Sheldon's peculiar course.

 

So much word to this. I get so sick the almost blind defense of Sheldon in almost every situation where he's being an unreasonable ass. The only thing I'll grant is that yes, he should have been informed prior but on the whole he was being an ego maniac here.

 

Fact is Sheldon has a bloated ego regarding not only his intelligence but what his contributions to not only science but to the university have been as well. Bernadette speaks the truth. NONE of Sheldon's work has been proven definitively. NONE of his work his work has been groundbreaking. NONE of what he's done for the university should entitle him to some premium parking spot. The fact that Howard is now a former astronaut who's work and designs have been used by NASA pretty much trumps anything Sheldon's done up to this point in the shows history. Until Sheldon does something worthy of Nobel Prize, Howard is in fact a greater asset to the university.

 

Sheldon talks big and looks down on others work but the truth of the matter is that he's largely unknown in the scientific community in BBT's fictional universe.

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So much word to this. I get so sick the almost blind defense of Sheldon in almost every situation where he's being an unreasonable ass. The only thing I'll grant is that yes, he should have been informed prior but on the whole he was being an ego maniac here.

 

Fact is Sheldon has a bloated ego regarding not only his intelligence but what his contributions to not only science but to the university have been as well. Bernadette speaks the truth. NONE of Sheldon's work has been proven definitively. NONE of his work his work has been groundbreaking. NONE of what he's done for the university should entitle him to some premium parking spot. The fact that Howard is now a former astronaut who's work and designs have been used by NASA pretty much trumps anything Sheldon's done up to this point in the shows history. Until Sheldon does something worthy of Nobel Prize, Howard is in fact a greater asset to the university.

 

Sheldon talks big and looks down on others work but the truth of the matter is that he's largely unknown in the scientific community in BBT's fictional universe.

 

Isn't that the whole point of his character though? That he has a massive ego and looks down on everyone? I think he's always been written that way for a reason, and that is the comedy value he provides with his narcissism. Aren't we taking this whole thing a bit too seriously? It is meant to be a sitcom at the end of the day. 

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Isn't that the whole point of his character though? That he has a massive ego and looks down on everyone? I think he's always been written that way for a reason, and that is the comedy value he provides with his narcissism. Aren't we taking this whole thing a bit too seriously? It is meant to be a sitcom at the end of the day. 

 

Yeah, there's always been a running joke that Howard and Sheldon have a problem with each other. Sheldon is just snippy because he's territorial and has to be top dog. Socially he's a loser but at work he thinks of himself as the alpha male. Underneath, I think they respect each other, begrudgingly. Except Sheldon just has a bigger problem admitting it. 


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Howard and Sheldon have never been really friendly with each other.  Tertiary and acquaintance is what Sheldon calls him.  I love the dynamic because in real life Jim and Simon are best friends so I bet they get a kick outta being 'mean' to one another. :p

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Howard and Sheldon have never been really friendly with each other. Tertiary and acquaintance is what Sheldon calls him. I love the dynamic because in real life Jim and Simon are best friends so I bet they get a kick outta being 'mean' to one another. :p

Yeah, Mellissa and Mayim probably had a ball during this one.

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Isn't that the whole point of his character though? That he has a massive ego and looks down on everyone? I think he's always been written that way for a reason, and that is the comedy value he provides with his narcissism. Aren't we taking this whole thing a bit too seriously? It is meant to be a sitcom at the end of the day.

 

That's not my issue. I agree that this is the whole point of his character. My issue is that there are a lot of fans who constantly come to Sheldon's defense like the character can do no wrong. I gets a little old given that if it were another character behaving that way these same people would be criticizing the character.

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I dont think Mayim and Kaley are close eithaer and it makese me SAD

 

Why? I think it's fairly normal to have people you are buddies with when you work in a large group, you can't be close to everyone. Plus, there's like a 10-year age difference between them, it's understandable that they'd have different lifestyles etc. In any case, I don't get the impression they aren't friends, just because Mayim's "bffs" are Melissa and Jim.

 

That's not my issue. I agree that this is the whole point of his character. My issue is that there are a lot of fans who constantly come to Sheldon's defense like the character can do no wrong. I gets a little old given that if it were another character behaving that way these same people would be criticizing the character.

 

I think that's also the way the writers portray him too, so that people do forgive him for everything he does or nobody would like him. In real life nobody could really stand a Sheldon. Maybe I don't see it just because I find in hard to blame any character for anything. I like everybody! :) lol.

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Is it just me that thinks it is weird that Sheldon accepted a HAND-TOUCHED cookie from Leonard? Earlier he would never dare eating something touched by another human... I find it quite confusing tbh.

 

(I'm very sorry if this has been brought up before, but I have no time to read through here)

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Why? I think it's fairly normal to have people you are buddies with when you work in a large group, you can't be close to everyone. Plus, there's like a 10-year age difference between them, it's understandable that they'd have different lifestyles etc. In any case, I don't get the impression they aren't friends, just because Mayim's "bffs" are Melissa and Jim.

 

 

I think that's also the way the writers portray him too, so that people do forgive him for everything he does or nobody would like him. In real life nobody could really stand a Sheldon. Maybe I don't see it just because I find in hard to blame any character for anything. I like everybody! :) lol.

 

Indeed. It seems like the actors on the show really get along with each others regardles of age-differencies and of course personality, but they really gel into one big happy family... Everybody can't be BFFS with everybody, but I'm sure they're all friends. Good friends.

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Is it just me that thinks it is weird that Sheldon accepted a HAND-TOUCHED cookie from Leonard? Earlier he would never dare eating something touched by another human... I find it quite confusing tbh.

 

(I'm very sorry if this has been brought up before, but I have no time to read through here)

 

I think whether might be an undercurrent this season about making Sheldon less mysophobic, and I think this ep and the next one are great examples of that. He did mention he shares nuts with Amy in the Wheaton ep. 

 

Either that, or they're not bothering with the continuity for laughs. 

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Is it just me that thinks it is weird that Sheldon accepted a HAND-TOUCHED cookie from Leonard? Earlier he would never dare eating something touched by another human... I find it quite confusing tbh.

(I'm very sorry if this has been brought up before, but I have no time to read through here)

The weird thing is, it hasn't. They have stopped using Sheldons quirks as rigidly as before, so we are all getting used him going off character. Obviously he wanted to dry clean his cushion and sell his laptop, but logically he wouldn't have eaten that cookie. So yes, well spotted. Edited by Moonbase
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You're in politics right? :p

 

LOL not at all, I hate most people in real life. I make up for it by loving everybody on tv shows. 

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So  I waited until I watched it a second time to actually post my thoughts on the episode so I could better judge a lot of it.  I missed the first couple minutes when it was on TV...

 

Overall I thought it was a pretty good episode.  It was funny, quirky, and kind of takes us back to the days when it was just the guys screwing with eachother but now we got to see how the women in their lives react to it.  So that was fun to see.

 

My only real complaint was that i felt like nothing really happened in terms of character progression or development...  What i mean is that there was  no story behind anything, no real reason for the argument.  Howard and sheldon are no closer as friends than they were, no character really gains anything, and the girls will likely end up same as always with the entire episode never being mentioned again... it felt kind of like filler to me.  

 

Maybe its just me but i like when the episodes story leads to something for one or more of the characters... like when sheldon learned to defend amy in S6E7 or episode 6 when Leonard learns to let Penny do her own thing in her college class.  Its just nice to see a meaning behind episodes rather than just "argument --> funny fights --> make up" end of episode

 

all in all i thought it was a good, funny, episode but it just lacked that special something to make it great...

7.5/10

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It seems like an episode specifically made for syndication.  Mindless and not related to anything.  But funny it is.

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The basic problem with Sheldon-centric stories is they are always the same...the plot , the jokes everything are predictable...Sheldon trying to one up his opponents for pettiness. They never give proper reasoning as to why Sheldon behaves like this.. so its just hard to not think about hitting him with a bat the entire time.

 

Now before anyone of you point out that this episode was different from the normal Sheldon is crazy episodes ,  because Sheldon is clearly upset by Howard's rise. That had nothing to do with this story. It was just a lame excuse for another Sheldon is crazy episode. The point of this story clearly was Sheldon does not like change, he is immovable. That's it. 

He wanted the spot because it was his..and I don't think he would have reacted differently if it were Raj or Leonard who were trying to take the spot

 

Sheldon is funny and endearing when he is reacting to other people's actions (psychotic vortex , tangerine factor , toast derivation , ornithophobia diffusion)

Sheldon is funny(but the joke is always the same) and obnoxious when other people react to his actions ( panty pinata , hot troll deviation , bus pants , parking spot)

 

The ladies were the only new thing in this episode and they clearly saved this one

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This clearly isn't about Sheldon's ego. I don't think anyone can judge Sheldon like they would a normal person. Its obvious that he has some form of mental illness - OCD, personality disorder or whatever it is. The point is, like what Bernadette mentioned before some episodes ago, Sheldon doesn't know it when he hurts Howard. To him, its the change that he hates - its his spot.

 

But no matter how obnoxious or egoistic he appears to be, Sheldon will always be my favourite in this sitcom.

 

(This is my first posting, by the way... yey!)

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@ vasu and C-trayne

This subject has been brought up before. TBBT is a honest to goodness simple comedy show and the vast majority of its episodes have no greater meaning. It's just the style of the writing and always has been. For years Sheldon would, in one episode, seem to learn something from Penny (for example) then for the next 10 shows exhibit no growth from the experience. There is no excess baggage of profundity with this show. And you will not get a definite trail of character growth, like with other more drama driven sitcoms. I'm so used to the style of writing, I no longer question it. They keep you waiting, wanting and give you a little only when everyone is going crazy for it.

In the earlier days the writers never even had a plan. They wrote each episode as a single entity. The first time they split up Penny and Leonard they didn't even know it was going to happen until they were writing it and Prady announced "oh my god they're breaking up". This is a very unusual way to operate. I think they have improved on planning these days but they still have a fluid style. Last season, the wedding was the most drama in a condensed timeframe we have ever seen and I have to say I didn't think much of those episodes. That type of story is not their strong suit. Simple comedy is what they are best at.

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